From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #264 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, August 22 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 264 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Go Tell The Drummer Man [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni's rambling stories ["Eaton, Shari" ] Re: Joni's rambling stories [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Just like this train [Bob Muller ] Re: that great interview on the French YouTube [Shari Eaton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:39:56 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Go Tell The Drummer Man Yes, it's a 3/4 waltz but not in the "classic" way, as this is also in a swing groove. That would be called a Jazz Waltz usually. Pretty tune isn't it? > It's a very pretty and catchy tune. It's a shame she abandoned it on her first record for "Pirate" and "Nathan", neither of which measure up to it. Would have been great if she would have put out a whole other record of the best of those earlier songs in 1967/68. It was not unheard of then for artists to put out 2 albums in a year, and we may even be getting back to that. Green Day is planning 3 albums in a short period, and Neil Young/Crazy Horse has 1 out this year (a parody of itself if you ask me) and is planning another of original material soon. Then again, maybe I should be grateful that she didn't - had she done that I'd REALLY be up to my neck in covers! Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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The one who inspired > this song. Fun little peek into her social life. > > > Lots of Joni, > Shari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:30:12 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories Oh yeah - these stories are great, and there are LOTS of them. No collection that I'm aware of. REALLY gives you insight into the background of the song. Bob From: "Eaton, Shari" To: JMDL Date: 08/22/2012 02:19 PM Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Link didn't show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmwxGYA1IIA On Aug 22, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Eaton, Shari wrote: > They're sort of my favorite part about her live songs. Do we have a collection > of them? > > Here's one I haven't heard before: > > Joni Mitchell - Carey (with full intro) > > She tells about the guy Carey that she met in Greece. The one who inspired > this song. Fun little peek into her social life. > > > Lots of Joni, > Shari - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:31:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Just like this train I smell a rat. I wouldn't touch that download with a 10-foot pole. Bob ________________________________ From: Karen Holtz To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: Just like this train Hey guys! Please, I need a help! I've got a version of Just Like This Train song in my computer, sung by Joni Mitchell, but this version is different than that ones that can be find at Court and Spark and Travelogue albums. Do you know know where is this record from? I've posted it on my 4shared page. Can you listen to it and help me please? Here is the link: http://www.4shared.com/mp3/ksDhlChP/Just_like_this_train.html Thank you! Karen Holtz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:28:59 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: that great interview on the French YouTube You're welcome, Jim. Did you guys see these as well? Interview with Joni talking about her painting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWGXE_ZVHWI&feature=related Dancin' Clown music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73IvazD2u6c On Aug 20, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Thanks Shari for posting the link. Thanks Sue for popularizing it. I > enjoyed it. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > > Sue credited >> Shari Eaton found this amazing interview with Joni ... >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjdNrWtCQWk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:24:00 -0700 From: Michael McCarthy Subject: Re: Subject: Dog Eat Dog On 19 August 2012 14:01, Mark wrote: > -----Original Message----- From: Jussi Pukkila > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:27 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Subject: Dog Eat Dog > > I still stand by what I wrote back then. Differences in sound level > aside, I don't hear a big difference in sound quality. It says on the > booklet: 'mastered from the original master tapes' which isn't the same > as 'remastered'. They simply made a new master from the original tapes. > And since they obviously used better A/D converters than in 1985, there > is unavoidably some added clarity - but that is not the same as 'proper' > remastering. > > Jussi, > > Thank you for making this distinction. I never remember exactly which > recordings were 'remastered' and which were 'mastered from the original > master tapes'. > > DED was the first of Joni's new releases to come out on cd and I refused > to buy the vinyl until I could get that cd because I love the fact that > cds, with minimal care, do not scratch and degrade like vinyl does. Now > all these years later I realize just how crappy some of the transfers onto > cds were. I still feel like DED benefited immensely by the superior > transfer in the Geffen box set. But that opinion also comes from listening > to it with headphones and I always pick up more detail when the sound is > coming directly into my ears. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:11:12 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: Dog Eat Dog I agree that the DED disc in the Geffen box was a great improvement. It's the most-improved remastering I have heard. The DED disc and the inclusion of "Speechless" (the so-called demo of "Two Grey Rooms ") made it worth while to me. In my mind, the instrumental isn't really a demo because it lacks words. It can't be a demo. I'm glad I bought the box set before the price doubled. Did it go out of print? I guess that's what keeps the price of boxed sets up -they go out of print and therefore become "rare". It was worthwhile at $45 when it was new; now, at $199 new on Amazon, I would hesitate. Jim L'Hommedieu On 8/19/2012 1:20 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > From: "Mark" > > I know the Geffen box set has been trashed as an over-priced, unnecessary > release and I've said this before but the remastered DED was really a > revelation to me. There are so many subtle intricacies in the arrangements > that I had never heard on the original release. DED is definitely one of > Joni's finer efforts, imo. And the messages she was trying to send out back > in 1985 are as relevant now as they were then. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #264 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe