From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #254 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, August 18 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 254 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- DITS discussed [Bob Muller ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #253 [Stdoherty ] RE: I had a king [Susan Tierney McNamara ] The Dream: For Kakki's Birthday [Lindsay Moon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:31:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: DITS discussed We've talked about it a bunch, here's one person's thoughts on Don't Interrupt The Sorrow: http://tinyurl.com/9kl2k7q Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:07:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #253 really enjoyed this interview Recently uploaded, really candid interview with Joni. I feel like I'm hanging > out with her. > - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest Sent: Fri, Aug 17, 2012 3:04 am Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #253 onlyJMDL Digest Friday, August 17 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 253 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Clouds painting [Steve Dulson ] RE: another interview [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: another interview ["Eaton, Shari" ] Last Waltz & Joni [Ken ] Joni Title [Joe Jones ] Re: one question [LC Stanley ] one question ["Eaton, Shari" ] I had a king [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:07:36 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Clouds painting Sue, I don't have the original (hah!) but do have one of the promotional copies Reprise gave away - the full painting (front and back of the album cover) with no text. (And I'm a big Who fan too!) Hugs, Steve Sue wrote: Continuing on my obsession with Clouds, I was wondering who owns the original painting? I assume that Joni still has it but is that true. I was just looking at her comments from the StarArt book at the jm.com website. http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=11&recs=3#viewing *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:54:30 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: another interview Shari, what an amazing video. I was mesmerized through the whole thing. This is probably one of my favorite periods of Joni's creativity ... Night Ride Home through Turbulent Indigo. Let me just get this out of the way first, because there is so much going on here: Joni Mitchell is one of the great beauties of the 20th Century and beyond. Flawless, and I think she is about 47 or 48 here. Although I know that Joni has control over most of her products, I didn't realize how much she was involved in producing videos. The explanation of the process of creating the CIFTC video was so filled with obtuse Joni metaphor at the beginning of this interview, that I wasn't sure what she was talking about. When I realized she was talking film jargon about dissolves and directing herself and her motions while she was singing, I thought to myself, if she can create a video and manipulate film and create such collage effects, why can't she send an email? Too boring, I'm sure!! :-) I was in complete rapture when she started talking about the guitar. From the point where she was talking about her harmonic style, Prince and Hissing of Summer Lawns (sigh!) and also her discussion of how Court and Spark set up Hissing for failure, which taught her that if you have success the next project should be full of experimentation because no one is going to like it anyway. So I believe that Night Ride Home gave her permission to complete the resurgence of her master craft on guitar which was realized so triumphantly on Turbulent Indigo. (more sighing) OK Tuning her guitar. C77235 (Night Ride Home tuning) Ominous, inquiry, doubt, possibility, resolution! But Joni what chord is that? DOY Doofus! It's the complicated emotions chord! of course. So Shari, yesterday you asked what is the one question I would ask Joni and I said, please show me how to play your shuffle strum. Well, how could I have possibly guessed that within the same day, Joni would answer my question? This video shows a great shot of this technique when she is playing the beginning of Cherokee Louise. Wow. I'm blown away. thanks, Love Sue Susan McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu ________________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Eaton, Shari [shari@sharieaton.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:24 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: another interview Recently uploaded, really candid interview with Joni. I feel like I'm hanging out with her. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjdNrWtCQWk - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 06:57:12 -0700 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: Re: another interview So happy you got your Joni answer. I don't perform her music now but I did in college and I definitely backed it up and listened again when she broke the chord down. I like what she said about the music dictating the lyrics in the Morrissey interview as well. She can't help but be fascinating, can she? And stunning! I often think of her joyful, very giving temperament as well. One last find (for now) Dancin' Clown music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73IvazD2u6c On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > Shari, what an amazing video. I was mesmerized through the whole thing. This is probably one of my favorite periods of Joni's creativity ... Night Ride Home through Turbulent Indigo. > > Let me just get this out of the way first, because there is so much going on here: Joni Mitchell is one of the great beauties of the 20th Century and beyond. Flawless, and I think she is about 47 or 48 here. > > Although I know that Joni has control over most of her products, I didn't realize how much she was involved in producing videos. The explanation of the process of creating the CIFTC video was so filled with obtuse Joni metaphor at the beginning of this interview, that I wasn't sure what she was talking about. When I realized she was talking film jargon about dissolves and directing herself and her motions while she was singing, I thought to myself, if she can create a video and manipulate film and create such collage effects, why can't she send an email? Too boring, I'm sure!! :-) > > I was in complete rapture when she started talking about the guitar. From the point where she was talking about her harmonic style, Prince and Hissing of Summer Lawns (sigh!) and also her discussion of how Court and Spark set up Hissing for failure, which taught her that if you have success the next project should be full of experimentation because no one is going to like it anyway. So I believe that Night Ride Home gave her permission to complete the resurgence of her master craft on guitar which was realized so triumphantly on Turbulent Indigo. (more sighing) > > OK Tuning her guitar. C77235 (Night Ride Home tuning) Ominous, inquiry, doubt, possibility, resolution! But Joni what chord is that? DOY Doofus! It's the complicated emotions chord! of course. > > So Shari, yesterday you asked what is the one question I would ask Joni and I said, please show me how to play your shuffle strum. Well, how could I have possibly guessed that within the same day, Joni would answer my question? This video shows a great shot of this technique when she is playing the beginning of Cherokee Louise. > > Wow. I'm blown away. thanks, Love Sue > > Susan McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > ________________________________________ > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Eaton, Shari [shari@sharieaton.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:24 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: another interview > > Recently uploaded, really candid interview with Joni. I feel like I'm hanging > out with her. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjdNrWtCQWk - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:50:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Subject: Last Waltz & Joni Of course, the Last Waltz concert has been discussed here before but Palladia network ran it again this evening and I happened to have time to DVR it & watch it afterward. Amazing cinematography and music, and a real treat to experience Joni doing "Coyote" in High Def, while in her prime... one of her best performances, IMO. Kenny B - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:29:17 +0100 From: Joe Jones Subject: Joni Title We are stardust... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007vzr2 - - -- - - -- Joe Jones +44 7831 914094 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: one question Yes. ________________________________ From: "Eaton, Shari" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: one question > I'd ask her to tell me more about her grandmother. You mean the one that kicked the door of the kitchen because she was a frustrated poet? On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:40 PM, LC Stanley wrote: > I'd ask her to tell me more about her grandmother. > > > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:07 PM, "Eaton, Shari" wrote: > >> If you could ask Joni one question, what would it be? >> >> >> Lots of Joni, >> Shari >> >> >> P.S. If you haven't watched the Morrissey / Joni interview it's really good. >> >> Joni & Morrissey, pt. 1 >> Joni & Morrissey, pt. 2 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:07:38 -0700 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: one question If you could ask Joni one question, what would it be? Lots of Joni, Shari P.S. If you haven't watched the Morrissey / Joni interview it's really good. Joni & Morrissey, pt. 1 Joni & Morrissey, pt. 2 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 22:29:15 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: I had a king I was reading the newspaper at home, with the cable tv set to the modern Jazz station. Suddenly I realized that I knew the tune. It was Joni's "I Had A King", played by Joshua Redmond. I'm sure Bob was aware of it long ago but really, how often do you hear a Joni covers unless you spin them? Jim L'Hommedieu Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #253 ********************************* - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:25:02 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: I had a king Bob, Go Tell The Drummer Man is bear to play, the little shuffle run she plays in between verses is so synchopated, I always mess it up. This song is in the same tuning as MFM and IDKWIS too, so in many of the early cafi tapes, she plays these three songs together! Circa 67. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:11 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: I had a king Not to mention all of the unreleased songs, some of which were just as symphonic and complex as what she ended up releasing. Many of the songs she wrote and was performing in '66/'67/'68 she ended up recording and releasing later (Little Green, Circle Game, Conversation, Roses Blue) etc. Maybe my "one question" would be what made her decide FOR some of these and AGAINST some of the others. Really, my one question would be to inquire as to why she doesn't want her archives released when so many of her contemporaries (Dylan, Neil, The Beatles, CSN) have done so with great success and adoration from their fans. I was listening to "Go Tell The Drummer Man" yesterday - hadn't heard it in forever - I had forgotten what a cool and "Joni-esque" song it is. By Joniesque I mean a song that NO ONE ELSE would have come up in terms of the intro, the chord progressions, the rhyme scheme, everything. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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I don't know why that is, but men are strange sometimes. When we parted I went to San Francisco, bought the first house I saw, and moved in. It was hard." Mitchell leased the house to Ron Stone, her neighbor and co-manager. Although he soon became successful enough himself to move to gaudier quarters, he didn't, even after "everybody I knew with the exception of Mark Volman had moved out. I could have afforded better. I didn't want better. I stayed for romantic reasons." Stone ended up leasing the house from Mitchell for the next twenty-seven years -- "she was a good landlady" -- and raising his children there. "There was a mystical kind of atmosphere in the house." he says.  He freely admits that actually living in the house "was a nightmare. When it rained, it leaked. Cold air came through the cracks. I never really noticed until I lived in a proper house."  The house, says Stone, "was somehow blessed. A lot of bad things happened in that neighborhood, but nothing happened to the house." There was the time, when Mitchell still lived there, that the house next door -- shared by Canned Heat -- burned in a furious blaze that somehow spared hers. "By all rights it should have burned the house to the ground, but for whatever reason it blackened the back door and stopped," Stone says.  On January 17, 2005, Nash answered his phone in Hawaii, his home for the past thirty years. It was Mitchell, calling from L.A. "She said, 'Do you want to go to the house?' I said, "What?' She said, 'I'm thinking of selling it.' I said, 'Really? Why?' She said the people renting it, three guys came over the fence and tried to rob them. And Joni thinks that those things are signs, and so she thought it was a sign that she should give it up. She wasn't there to protect it. So she wanted to know if I wanted to go back and reminisce for a few minutes." Nash, about to leave on a world tour with Stills and Crosby, declined. So that's the story on the house in Laurel Canyon that some of us visited. Good to know that the house we all find so magical, so do the people who actually lived there and made music there. Gives me a good feeling. Lindsay ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #254 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe