From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #178 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, June 17 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 178 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: RE: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein [daligay@googlemail.com] Joni and Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein [est86mlm@ameritech.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:03:10 +0000 From: daligay@googlemail.com Subject: Re: RE: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein Personally I think it is good to know that Joni lives in the real world...fights with her daughter , access to the kids/ no access. She has always surprised me with the way she stays good friends with her exes. At first I couldn't get my head around even the concept of that. I always believed that when they go they are gone for good.A bit like Eden I suppose. No way back in, matey.Joni certainly showed me for one that it needn't be like that. And what about Killauren's father ? "He sends you a poem and she's lost to you, Little Green, he's a non conformer." How does she get on with him? Anyone know ? I take it Killauren found out who he was soon after she found out who her mother was? Any fisty-cuffs there? As to Joni being depressed and alone. She didn't look at all like that in the photos with Jane Fonda and according to Jane Fonda our Joni is as chatty and alive as ever. Was it Bonnie Rait was there too? I think we can safely assume that Joni is thriving...living her life, fighting her fights (let's face it she always has !), telling her truth and doing her art. Her voice is maybe gone by now. You could sense that on Shine.Well I thought so.It would be a surprise if their was an album left.I'd still queue up to get it though.Even if she sounded like a corncrake. I have hardly listened to her for ages. I still find myself repeatedly singing the songs of her's that I never really liked which is strange ... Night in the City...sometimes it's like it's on a loop in my head/mouth like my life depended on it . Then I'll go through a phase of Joni balloney and love it all. That's the way it is with me. I'm glad though that she is still making a noise. Can't believe the cops were called to stop a fisty-cuffs with her offspring ! OMG. That's so Glaswegian ! I think she is indeed "a friend of Spirit." I will laugh a long time thinking of the two of them . Gosh I know it is serious but it's got it's funny side too. "You get out of my house, you !" "Ah who do you think you are coz you can sing and strum an effin banjo, ya dobber." Killauren comes accross as a bit rougher than her mama to me,if you tube can be trusted. On , Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > Thanks, Sharon ... now I do recall hearing a bit about that. Who > knows ... Happy families are all alike, every unhappy family is unhappy > in its own way - Tolstoy > Yes, I wish she would record some more. I really liked Shine. (no > surprise there) :-) > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharon Watkins [mailto:swat676699@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:35 PM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein > From perusing the web (realizing everything on the web isn't always > reliable), Joni and Kilauren got into a physical altercation during an > argument in Joni's Bel Air home. Police were called though no charges > filed. It damaged the relationship and apparently hasn't been the same > since. Idk, guess I'm just missing Joni's involvement in music scene and > missing new music from her. Certainly respect her right to retire and > hope she is well and happy. > Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara sem8@cornell.edu> > wrote: > > I'm curious, where did everyone hear that Joni's relationship with > > Kilauren was rocky? Also, isn't it true that Joni and Klein are still > > good friends? Also, I heard that she has a lot of friends she likes > > to play pool with. It would make me sad too if she was alone and > > depressed, but now that I'm single, I'm VERY HAPPY, but that's just > > me. :-) > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > > Sharon Watkins > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 12:59 PM > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > >> From: Sharon Watkins swat676699@aol.com> > >> Date: June 15, 2012 9:19:58 AM CDT > >> To: "sendtojoni@smoe.org" sendtojoni@smoe.org> > >> Subject: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein > >> > >> I too am glad Joni had a fun loving husband, but in the end he broke > >> her > > heart. It just bothers me that he dumped Joni for his young Brazilian > wife. > > I'm not saying women 'need' a man to be complete, but I worry about > Joni growing old alone. Her parents are dead, her relationship with > Kilauren is rocky (last I heard), and I don't know if Kilauren now allows > Joni access to Marlin and Daisy. From what I've read, Joni also seems to > be a fun loving person who loves to laugh. But I agree with the current > curmudgeonly attitude. > > Do ya'll think Joni could be depressed? The withdrawal from people, > health struggles, loss of interest in what was once pleasurable ( ie her > music, although apparently not her art), loss of her parents, rocky > relationship with Kauren. Makes me wonder and worry. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:45:44 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni and Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein Sharon, Larry met Luciana Souza in 2005 and they married in 2006....years after his divorce with Joni was final. I believe they were still married, but seperated, when Larry was dating Diana Krall and Joni was with Don Freed (Joni's mom introduced them in 1993). Joni and Larry divorced 'officially' in 1994, altho they were separated for years. Here's a clue as to why they divorced. http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2487&from=search "In 1985, Joni Mitchell and Larry Klein discovered she was pregnant. In her first trimester, however, Mitchell miscarried. Klein had lined up a recording date at The Wool Hall in Beckington-Near-Bath in Somerset, England that would be his first major production; recording an album with former Cars' bassist Benjamin Orr ("The Lace"). Klein delayed leaving until Mitchell said it was okay for him to go. Mitchell apparently came to view the decision as her husband giving his job a higher priority than her health. In 1991, their marriage fell apart." And in the book, "Girls Like Us" Larry continues: "In retrospect, it was really a bad thing," he says today. "I didn't know very much about what happens to women when they miscarry - the potential psychological problems, the depression. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have gone. It really damaged our relationship; she saw it as me putting this job higher in importance than her health." "On Thanksgiving 1991, Joni and Larry's marriage fell apart. Larry moved to a house in Venice and "spent five years - probably the most difficult period of my life - completely reconstructing myself," Larry recalls. As Dave Naylor, who remained close to both Larry and Joni, puts it, "It wasn't just the miscarriage" that marked the end of the marriage for Joni. "She needed some inspiration, some play - she needed some interaction with men." Not too long ago, I too thought Joni was lonely and holed-up in her house until I started seeing articles/photos, etc. about her out and about and busy. The Pre-Grammy Party http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2478&from=search President's birthday bash/fundraiser http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2441&from=search Busy selling furniture http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2473&from=search Hosting a New Years Eve Party per Marg Helgenberger http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnsu2b_marg-helgenberger-on-live-with-kelly-january-18th-2012_shortfilms I've also read posts where others (her friends, Chaka Khan& Neil Young) talk about Joni traveling between her houses in California and Canada. And her grandchildren have been seen around her home in Canada (so I am assuming Kilauren and Joni are speaking and keeping in touch). Seems to me she's leading quite an active life. We just don't read about it in the papers so we don't actually know about her day to day activities. The 'press' isn't that interested in her un-Kardashian lifestyle! LOL Anyways I hope this helps you, like it did me, to feel more like Joni is living a full life, and enjoying herself. Laura > From: Sharon Watkins > Date: June 15, 2012 9:19:58 AM CDT > To:"sendtojoni@smoe.org" > Subject: Shawn Colvin's Memoir/Klein > > I too am glad Joni had a fun loving husband, but in the end he broke her heart. It just bothers me that he dumped Joni for his young Brazilian wife. I'm not saying women 'need' a man to be complete, but I worry about Joni growing old alone. Her parents are dead, her relationship with Kilauren is rocky (last I heard), and I don't know if Kilauren now allows Joni access to Marlin and Daisy. From what I've read, Joni also seems to be a fun loving person who loves to laugh. But I agree with the current curmudgeonly attitude. Do ya'll think Joni could be depressed? The withdrawal from people, health struggles, loss of interest in what was once pleasurable ( i.e. her music, although apparently not her art), loss of her parents, rocky relationship with Kauren. Makes me wonder and worry. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #178 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe