From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #155 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 26 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 155 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- "Jaco", the film [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: Carly Rae Jepsen BSN [Bob Muller ] people's parties + [Marianne Rizzo ] Re: Carly Rae Jepsen BSN [Betsy Blue ] Re: People's Parties / Same Situation [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Carly Rae Jepsen BSN [Betsy Blue ] RE: People's Parties / Same Situation [Susan Tierney McNamara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 12:03:50 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: "Jaco", the film Metallica's Robert Trujillo has been working on a movie for 2 years, tentatively entitled "Jaco". The director is Stephen Kikak. Trujillo got some private footage from the Pastorius family. This info comes from May 24th McPaper, on page 7D. Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 05:32:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Carly Rae Jepsen BSN Afew devotees + a whole bunch of royalty pennies. BSN is a bonus track on the CD-single that JUST HAPPENS to be the #1 single in the country. Happy Friday hippies! Bob NP: Cornershop, "What Did The Hippie Have In His Bag?" ________________________________ From: Betsy Blue To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:17 PM Subject: Carly Rae Jepsen BSN I've been over Call Me Maybe for months, but this BSN cover is fun. "It's basically mostly brilliant, although 22% rubbish too to keep you on your toes." Even if you hate her or the cover, you have to admit that it will gain Joni a few more devotees from the tween set. She's even said that Joni is "big news." Ha! You can hear it here: http://bit.ly/HPT6C9 Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 11:47:35 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: people's parties + Susan Guzzi's in the house! HI Susan. Marianne Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: People's Parties / Same Situation Bob I agree almost 100% with you and come from that same non-theoretical music person. The only thing I am not sure about, although in Joni's case you may be right - is "loved" being past tense. Is she referring to the time he told her and that being a past event or that love is in the past for them? Or did she think she meant the time he told her and have an unconscious slip of the tense ... hmmm. As many from long ago posts know Blue is my favorite- but I think FTR is a very close second - it is nearly perfect as well. And yes it is as fresh as ever and stands up well today. It's been a long time since I posted but I miss it and hope to visit more often. Peace, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 11:28:01 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: Re: Carly Rae Jepsen BSN The feather cannons are there to defend the ice cream castles. Duh! Betsy (attempting adolescent eye roll) On May 25, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: I like it, but I had to laugh reading her lyric notes when it said "feather cannons!" Funny!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:09:23 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: People's Parties / Same Situation Thanks for your thoughts Susan - and yes, you need to chime in more. Meanwhile, while searching for the article Jim referred to regarding a Jaco movie in the works, I came across this piece about Joni's jazz era: http://tinyurl.com/cupxjez However, he does NOT like C&S, only praising the run that came after it. "To this day, music critics routinely cite albums like Blue and Court And Spark as examples of Mitchellbs greatness. Ibve never quite got that.Of the latter, it sounds like Jonibs desperate grab at the same sort of commercial payday that similar artists from the same late-1970s singer/songwriter boom like Jackson Browne were already cashing in on b but one which nonetheless proved wildly successful in Jonibs case. Still, to me, that album reeks of L.A. studio stink to this day." He's also not enamored with anything that came out before it. However, he has written a book just released this month called "Neil Young FAQ" that supposedly has quite a bit of detail about Neil meeting "Sweet Joni" back in the day. It's not available for my Kindle so I may have to pick it up for a summer beach read. Bob NP: Kevin Gilbert, "Goodness Gracious" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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You can hear it here: http://bit.ly/HPT6C9 Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 19:05:23 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: People's Parties / Same Situation I love Court and Spark. It was the first album I owned, although I heard snippets of Blue and For The Roses on fm.radio. There was something about the flow of the album that almost played like a movie for me. Same Situation was one of those "written in blood" songs for me because when I was a teenager, the aspects of love and spirituality where so confused in my mind (maybe it was the chemicals I was injesting) but I think Joni's poetry was perfect for this feeling ... "with heaven full of astronauts and the Lord on death row ..." It also reminds me of that line in Lesson in Survival where she says " guru books, the Bible, only a reminder that you're just not good enough ..." Coincidentally, another segue song ... I also want to say that although Lava Rock (my now defunct band) couldn't hold the hem of the Mutts garment, we really worked hard on "Help Me" and I have to agree with Robin that there was something about the time signatures and the phrasing of the voice that really messed us up. In the end, our wonderful drummer, Vanessa, held the thing together with her ear for the rhythm and we ended up performing pretty good versions. I would always breathe a huge sigh of relief when we ended together ... Playing Joni live is not for wussies!!!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Robin Adler Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:37 PM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Dave Blackburn; joni@smoe.org LIST Subject: Re: People's Parties / Same Situation > Well, not being a theoretically musical person, I would not have known > about the time change segue - is that trickier for a singer or for a > musician, or equally as tricky? As far as the theoretical aspect of the segue between PP and SS goes, I think it might be a bit trickier for a singer because if you are not counting correctly and you come in with the lyric at the wrong place you can cause a train wreck with the other musicians, especially when changing time signatures. The musicians and the singer are then left scrambling to get back in the groove so to speak. Because Joni accompanied herself on piano and guitar it offered her more freedom and spontaneity to move wherever and whenever she wanted regardless of form. In conversations with Max Bennett he said that her music was really different than anything he had ever played. She had everything clearly mapped out in her head and on cassette tape but then the musicians would have to write out their own charts to make sense of it. > hint)> > > Bob I understand that not having a theoretical musical background and talking about time signatures etc. may be foreign to some, but, they are a big part of the performance. Joni not only had her own internal genius but had an uncanny ability for observation and absorbing what she saw and heard from others. That segue between PP and SS may have been her noodling in 5/4 before going into a time signature that fit her lyrics better. When trying to recreate her music and follow her arrangements closely it takes some technical ability (i.e. memorization, having the words groove with the music etc.) I like to move through that phase as quickly as possible to what appears to be the effortless phase. That's when you can get into the story and the emotion. So when all that technical stuff is under my belt I can actually be at that party feeling insecure or isolated all of those things we can collectively relate too. Everything Bob described so well. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 17:48:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Patti Smith Radio Concert This is really NJC, but I'm so happy about this I decided to send to everyone - I hope you don't mind. Back in 1998, Patti Smith played a concert in Chicago that many consider to be one of the best live shows ever. I wasn't there, but did hear a 6 song segment from this show, and I must say that I was blown away by it. I have a good friend that was there, and she rated as one of the best ever. Patti has gone on record as saying it's the best concert she's ever put on. Anyway, this Sunday, WXRT will be playing a 90 minute set from this show. For those not in the Chicago area, you should be able to stream it at WXRT.radio.com. I highly recommend this show to anyone who has any interest in Patti Smith. Here is a copy of the set list, found else where on the web. 1. Dj Intro 1:50 2. Dead City 4:42 3. Dancing Barefoot 5:25 4. Redondo Beach 4:35 5. Don't Say Nothing 7:39 6. Gone Again 5:10 7. Beneath The Southern Cross 5:11 8. I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry 2:41 9. Wing 4:57 10. Summer Cannibals 4:17 11. Free Money 4:02 12. About A Boy 10:33 13. Because The Night 3:40 14. People Have The Power / Rockin' In The Free World 7:31 15. Pissing In A River 5:51 16. Declaration Of Independence / Rock 'n' Roll Nigger / Gloria 11:37 17. Dj Outro 0:28 Now if anyone has any tips on how to record music streamed from a website..... Jack From XRT's website: "One of the most critically acclaimed artists to emerge in the 1970s was Chicago native, Patti Smith. Her early albums reflected her many musical influences as well as serving as an influence for future songwriters and performers. Be sure to be listening Sunday at 7:30pm for her historic Riviera set, voted #1 Concert in the 1998 XRT Listener Poll; itbs a 90-minute Sunday Night Concert Special starting at 7:30pm." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 17:30:21 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Patti Smith Radio Concert Jack, Audio Hijack Pro is what I use. On May 25, 2012, at 2:48 PM, merk54@aol.com wrote: > Now if anyone has any tips on how to record music streamed from a > website..... > > Jack ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #155 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe