From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #153 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, May 24 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 153 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 [Marion Leffler ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 [Marion Leffler ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: PP, SS, Robin, Dave & The Mutts [Ken ] RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 [Marion Leffler ] Re: People's Parties / Same Situation [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: People's Parties / Same Situation [Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 Thanks, Jamie. I had a look at the quote myself, it's from 2002 when Daisy was three. I also searched for "Daisy" and had 14 entries, not all of them about her granddaughter though. Most of them are just mentions of Daisy. So it seems Joni never said much about Daisy at all. Have a good day, Marion 2012/5/24 Jamie Zubairi > Haha. The pleasure was shared and heartfelt x > > I always think Marlin as the large ocean fish that people try and catch. > Smooth, shiny and leaping out of the water trying to escape. > > I did find the quote about Daisy, though she doesn't name her. I did have > to type in "crotch" to the Jm.com library > > Jamie Zubairi > Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, > Sent via iPhone so please excuse the brevity and possible typos! > > On 24 May 2012, at 09:22, Marion Leffler wrote: > > > Proud to have made you laugh, Jamie! Seriously, Marlin sounds like the > > magician in Lord of the Rings. But I guess that is what Joni's grandson > is > > called. Sorry for the mistake. And thanks for responding! > > Marion > > > > 2012/5/23 Jamie Zubairi > > > >> Marlin, not Mervin! Haha. > >> I think she's mentioned Daisy in passing when it comes to modern music > and > >> how it's just basically sex. I'm trying to recall a quote about even my > >> grandchild is grabbing her crotch and dancing. I'd have to enter > "crotch" > >> on jm.com search engine to find it... ;-) > >> > >> Jamie Zubairi > >> Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, > >> Sent via iPhone so please excuse the brevity and possible typos! > >> > >> On 23 May 2012, at 16:43, Marion Leffler wrote: > >> > >>> I agree, Daisy looks a lot like Joni, and she even moves her hands and > >> body > >>> like Joni in the video, I think. Has Joni ever talked about Daisy? Like > >> she > >>> has about her grandson whom she seemed to be so taken with? In the > >>> interviews I read Joni only talked about Mervin, I always felt she was > >>> ignoring Daisy. Does anyone know if Joni has any contact with her > >>> grandchildren these days, now that they are teenagers? (Having recently > >>> become a granny for the second time I guess these questions are close > to > >> me > >>> right now). > >>> Marion > >>> > >>> 2012/5/23 Susan Tierney McNamara > >>> > >>>> If you look at this photo of Joni at age 9, I think the resemblance is > >>>> striking!! > >>>> > >>>> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1322&from=search > >>>> > >>>> I'm sure there are other photos on the site that show Daisy as a > >>>> dead-ringer. :-) > >>>> > >>>> Susan Tierney McNamara > >>>> email: sem8@cornell.edu > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > >> Mary > >>>> Morris > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:13 AM > >>>> To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST > >>>> Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > >>>> > >>>> Thank you clearing up a question I had, which is "How do we know this > is > >>>> Daisy?" I have seen the link many times & this is the only time it is > >>>> addressed. I had to see it a couple times before I "got" it. Of > >> course it > >>>> clearly looks like Joni's grand kid. I think it is also sweet that > that > >>>> little known fact is omitted on the original utube, so we can all just > >>>> enjoy the expressive tyke. I think Daisy looks more like Joni than > >>>> Kilauren does. > >>>> Just my opinion. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel roadais, where the barb > >> wire > >>>> meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:00:04 -0400 > >>>>> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > >>>>> To: joni-digest@smoe.org > >>>>> Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 23 2012 Volume 2012 : > Number > >>>> 765 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ========== > >>>>> > >>>>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > >>>>> -------- > >>>>> Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown [Susan Tierney McNamara > >>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 02:13:33 +0000 > >>>>> From: Susan Tierney McNamara > >>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes your right Dan ... I guess my overprotective mother side came > out! > >>>>> Its also cute.she wants to be fashion conscious like her model mom! > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > >>>>> > >>>>> Dan Olson wrote: > >>>>> She's adorable, and she is not identified in any way as Joni's > >>>>> grand-daughter, and no one has commented suggesting they are aware; > >>>>> the only comments (1 week and 1 month old) couldn't be more innocent > >>>>> ("I love that ring!"). It's like much of what's (probably) on > >>>>> you-tube: without identifying key-words, nobody would ever find it. > >>>>> Us jmdl-ers are the only ones who know who it is (I hope). > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> She's precious and looks just like Joni, but it makes me sad that > >>>>>> all these old people are now going to watch her videos just because > >>>>>> she's Joni's granddaughter. Sigh... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Susan McNamara > >>>>>> email: sem8@cornell.edu > >>>>>> ________________________________________ > >>>>>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Rose M > >>>>>> Joy [ rosemjoy@aol.com] > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:56 AM > >>>>>> To: est86mlm@ameritech.net > >>>>>> Cc: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is that Joni's grand daughter ? She's adorable ! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On May 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now when I see Kilauren she looks totally like her dad to me, > >>>>>>> altho I do agree with you that Joni and Kilauren have a similar > >>>>>>> sounding speaking voice. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On the other hand, altho I do see Kilauren in her daughter, Daisy, > >>>>>>> to me Joni's grandaughter is a sure-fire Joni look-a-like. Much > >>>>>>> more so than Kilauren& Joni. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Check out her smile at the end of the video - 3:12....WOW.....Joni! > >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjDFrcwPCE > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> She sure could be used in the movie as a young Joni. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Laura > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) > >>>>>>> From: LC Stanley > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> She > >>>>>>> looks a lot like her mama in my eye. Have a look see: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > http://www.myspace.com/kilauren/photos/1025291#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A12629362%7D > >>>>>>> And, she's got some of the same personality traits too, and voice > >>>>>>> as others have mentioned. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Some of her friends call her "Killer." She'd be way cool playing > >>>>>>> Joni. I think she's a riot!!! Tequilla! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Love, > >>>>>>> Laura > >>>>>>> ________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > >>>>> ***************************** > >>>>> > >>>>> ------- > >>>>> To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. > >>>>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: > >>>>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > >>>>> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 10:22:46 +0200 From: Marion Leffler Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 Proud to have made you laugh, Jamie! Seriously, Marlin sounds like the magician in Lord of the Rings. But I guess that is what Joni's grandson is called. Sorry for the mistake. And thanks for responding! Marion 2012/5/23 Jamie Zubairi > Marlin, not Mervin! Haha. > I think she's mentioned Daisy in passing when it comes to modern music and > how it's just basically sex. I'm trying to recall a quote about even my > grandchild is grabbing her crotch and dancing. I'd have to enter "crotch" > on jm.com search engine to find it... ;-) > > Jamie Zubairi > Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, > Sent via iPhone so please excuse the brevity and possible typos! > > On 23 May 2012, at 16:43, Marion Leffler wrote: > > > I agree, Daisy looks a lot like Joni, and she even moves her hands and > body > > like Joni in the video, I think. Has Joni ever talked about Daisy? Like > she > > has about her grandson whom she seemed to be so taken with? In the > > interviews I read Joni only talked about Mervin, I always felt she was > > ignoring Daisy. Does anyone know if Joni has any contact with her > > grandchildren these days, now that they are teenagers? (Having recently > > become a granny for the second time I guess these questions are close to > me > > right now). > > Marion > > > > 2012/5/23 Susan Tierney McNamara > > > >> If you look at this photo of Joni at age 9, I think the resemblance is > >> striking!! > >> > >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1322&from=search > >> > >> I'm sure there are other photos on the site that show Daisy as a > >> dead-ringer. :-) > >> > >> Susan Tierney McNamara > >> email: sem8@cornell.edu > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Mary > >> Morris > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:13 AM > >> To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST > >> Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > >> > >> Thank you clearing up a question I had, which is "How do we know this is > >> Daisy?" I have seen the link many times & this is the only time it is > >> addressed. I had to see it a couple times before I "got" it. Of > course it > >> clearly looks like Joni's grand kid. I think it is also sweet that that > >> little known fact is omitted on the original utube, so we can all just > >> enjoy the expressive tyke. I think Daisy looks more like Joni than > >> Kilauren does. > >> Just my opinion. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel roadais, where the barb > wire > >> meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:00:04 -0400 > >>> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > >>> To: joni-digest@smoe.org > >>> Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > >>> > >>> > >>> JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number > >> 765 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ========== > >>> > >>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > >>> -------- > >>> Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown [Susan Tierney McNamara > >> >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 02:13:33 +0000 > >>> From: Susan Tierney McNamara > >>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > >>> > >>> Yes your right Dan ... I guess my overprotective mother side came out! > >>> Its also cute.she wants to be fashion conscious like her model mom! > >>> > >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > >>> > >>> Dan Olson wrote: > >>> She's adorable, and she is not identified in any way as Joni's > >>> grand-daughter, and no one has commented suggesting they are aware; > >>> the only comments (1 week and 1 month old) couldn't be more innocent > >>> ("I love that ring!"). It's like much of what's (probably) on > >>> you-tube: without identifying key-words, nobody would ever find it. > >>> Us jmdl-ers are the only ones who know who it is (I hope). > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> She's precious and looks just like Joni, but it makes me sad that > >>>> all these old people are now going to watch her videos just because > >>>> she's Joni's granddaughter. Sigh... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Susan McNamara > >>>> email: sem8@cornell.edu > >>>> ________________________________________ > >>>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Rose M > >>>> Joy [ rosemjoy@aol.com] > >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:56 AM > >>>> To: est86mlm@ameritech.net > >>>> Cc: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com > >>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > >>>> > >>>> Is that Joni's grand daughter ? She's adorable ! > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>> On May 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Now when I see Kilauren she looks totally like her dad to me, > >>>>> altho I do agree with you that Joni and Kilauren have a similar > >>>>> sounding speaking voice. > >>>>> > >>>>> On the other hand, altho I do see Kilauren in her daughter, Daisy, > >>>>> to me Joni's grandaughter is a sure-fire Joni look-a-like. Much > >>>>> more so than Kilauren& Joni. > >>>>> > >>>>> Check out her smile at the end of the video - 3:12....WOW.....Joni! > >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjDFrcwPCE > >>>>> > >>>>> She sure could be used in the movie as a young Joni. > >>>>> > >>>>> Laura > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) > >>>>> From: LC Stanley > >>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > >>>>> > >>>>> She > >>>>> looks a lot like her mama in my eye. Have a look see: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > http://www.myspace.com/kilauren/photos/1025291#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A12629362%7D > >>>>> And, she's got some of the same personality traits too, and voice > >>>>> as others have mentioned. > >>>>> > >>>>> Some of her friends call her "Killer." She'd be way cool playing > >>>>> Joni. I think she's a riot!!! Tequilla! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Love, > >>>>> Laura > >>>>> ________________ > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > >>> ***************************** > >>> > >>> ------- > >>> To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. > >>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: > >>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > >>> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 09:49:20 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 Haha. The pleasure was shared and heartfelt x I always think Marlin as the large ocean fish that people try and catch. Smooth, shiny and leaping out of the water trying to escape. I did find the quote about Daisy, though she doesn't name her. I did have to type in "crotch" to the Jm.com library Jamie Zubairi Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, Sent via iPhone so please excuse the brevity and possible typos! On 24 May 2012, at 09:22, Marion Leffler wrote: > Proud to have made you laugh, Jamie! Seriously, Marlin sounds like the > magician in Lord of the Rings. But I guess that is what Joni's grandson is > called. Sorry for the mistake. And thanks for responding! > Marion > > 2012/5/23 Jamie Zubairi > >> Marlin, not Mervin! Haha. >> I think she's mentioned Daisy in passing when it comes to modern music and >> how it's just basically sex. I'm trying to recall a quote about even my >> grandchild is grabbing her crotch and dancing. I'd have to enter "crotch" >> on jm.com search engine to find it... ;-) >> >> Jamie Zubairi >> Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, >> Sent via iPhone so please excuse the brevity and possible typos! >> >> On 23 May 2012, at 16:43, Marion Leffler wrote: >> >>> I agree, Daisy looks a lot like Joni, and she even moves her hands and >> body >>> like Joni in the video, I think. Has Joni ever talked about Daisy? Like >> she >>> has about her grandson whom she seemed to be so taken with? In the >>> interviews I read Joni only talked about Mervin, I always felt she was >>> ignoring Daisy. Does anyone know if Joni has any contact with her >>> grandchildren these days, now that they are teenagers? (Having recently >>> become a granny for the second time I guess these questions are close to >> me >>> right now). >>> Marion >>> >>> 2012/5/23 Susan Tierney McNamara >>> >>>> If you look at this photo of Joni at age 9, I think the resemblance is >>>> striking!! >>>> >>>> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1322&from=search >>>> >>>> I'm sure there are other photos on the site that show Daisy as a >>>> dead-ringer. :-) >>>> >>>> Susan Tierney McNamara >>>> email: sem8@cornell.edu >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >> Mary >>>> Morris >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:13 AM >>>> To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST >>>> Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 >>>> >>>> Thank you clearing up a question I had, which is "How do we know this is >>>> Daisy?" I have seen the link many times & this is the only time it is >>>> addressed. I had to see it a couple times before I "got" it. Of >> course it >>>> clearly looks like Joni's grand kid. I think it is also sweet that that >>>> little known fact is omitted on the original utube, so we can all just >>>> enjoy the expressive tyke. I think Daisy looks more like Joni than >>>> Kilauren does. >>>> Just my opinion. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel roadais, where the barb >> wire >>>> meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:00:04 -0400 >>>>> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org >>>>> To: joni-digest@smoe.org >>>>> Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number >>>> 765 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ========== >>>>> >>>>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >>>>> -------- >>>>> Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown [Susan Tierney McNamara >>>> >>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 02:13:33 +0000 >>>>> From: Susan Tierney McNamara >>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown >>>>> >>>>> Yes your right Dan ... I guess my overprotective mother side came out! >>>>> Its also cute.she wants to be fashion conscious like her model mom! >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone >>>>> >>>>> Dan Olson wrote: >>>>> She's adorable, and she is not identified in any way as Joni's >>>>> grand-daughter, and no one has commented suggesting they are aware; >>>>> the only comments (1 week and 1 month old) couldn't be more innocent >>>>> ("I love that ring!"). It's like much of what's (probably) on >>>>> you-tube: without identifying key-words, nobody would ever find it. >>>>> Us jmdl-ers are the only ones who know who it is (I hope). >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> She's precious and looks just like Joni, but it makes me sad that >>>>>> all these old people are now going to watch her videos just because >>>>>> she's Joni's granddaughter. Sigh... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Susan McNamara >>>>>> email: sem8@cornell.edu >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Rose M >>>>>> Joy [ rosemjoy@aol.com] >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:56 AM >>>>>> To: est86mlm@ameritech.net >>>>>> Cc: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that Joni's grand daughter ? She's adorable ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now when I see Kilauren she looks totally like her dad to me, >>>>>>> altho I do agree with you that Joni and Kilauren have a similar >>>>>>> sounding speaking voice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the other hand, altho I do see Kilauren in her daughter, Daisy, >>>>>>> to me Joni's grandaughter is a sure-fire Joni look-a-like. Much >>>>>>> more so than Kilauren& Joni. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Check out her smile at the end of the video - 3:12....WOW.....Joni! >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjDFrcwPCE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> She sure could be used in the movie as a young Joni. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) >>>>>>> From: LC Stanley >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown >>>>>>> >>>>>>> She >>>>>>> looks a lot like her mama in my eye. Have a look see: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> http://www.myspace.com/kilauren/photos/1025291#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A12629362%7D >>>>>>> And, she's got some of the same personality traits too, and voice >>>>>>> as others have mentioned. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of her friends call her "Killer." She'd be way cool playing >>>>>>> Joni. I think she's a riot!!! Tequilla! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Love, >>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>> ________________ >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #765 >>>>> ***************************** >>>>> >>>>> ------- >>>>> To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. >>>>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >>>>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >>>>> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:34:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Subject: Re: PP, SS, Robin, Dave & The Mutts Interesting reading about Robin, Dave & The Mutts. I have the DVDs and CDs but I'm still waiting for the day I get to see these people live (like, is there EVER going to be an East Coast tour?) Or, do I have to go back out to California? As for Robin saying: I could be happy the rest of my musical life just performing her songs - they effect me so much. Unfortunately it is also probably why I will never write songs of my own. How could I? I would think there would be some very strong desire to write ONE song, at least, even if just to prove you could (to yourself), or as some kind of tribute. I know, when I first started taking piano lessons (at age 57) I felt good that I finally accomplished something I'd been wanting to do my whole life, but by writing a short song of my own, I felt even more fulfilled knowing that I COULD. Kenny B I've tried so many times to sit down and write to the list about performing the albums of Blue and Court and Spark. Anita had posed some questions shortly after the release of our DVD about my experience and I was in the midst of a major post-partum funk following the concert asking myself "is that all there is?" I just could not complete the post. It was one of the most profound and humbling musical experiences of my career. I knew these albums were great but having experienced them on a physical and emotional level I was totally blown away by their brilliance. Nothing about Joni's music is easy if you want to do them justice. Nothing is more interesting, beautiful, challenging, stimulating etc. than her songs. I could be happy the rest of my musical life just performing her songs - they effect me so much. Unfortunately it is also probably why I will never write songs of my own. How could I? We chose, for this concert, to stay as close to the original arrangements as possible so that the audience members could relive, if you will, how they felt when they first heard these songs. For us as a band that was exciting. To emulate Car on a Hill, Down to You and Trouble Child was a great accomplishment. Our drummer Danny Campbell bought special drum heads to get the John Guerin sound. Our multi talented Dave Curtis played those incredible harmonic guitar parts on Trouble Child to simulate the waves breaking at Malibu. He also played most of the orchestrated parts in Down to You. Dave Blackburn (my hubby) borrowed a 12 string guitar for People's Parties to add to the quiver of other guitars he used. For my part I was laser-focused, for about 3 months solid, on memorizing, practicing and trying to get inside each tune. I watched my diet and did yoga every day, and oh, did I mention practice? I wonder how much Joni had to prepare for those sessions, but then again she wasn't 59 years old when she made those records. It takes a bit more prep the older you get. On the night of the concert I was ready, and from the start of All I Want to the last line of Twisted it was like a magic carpet ride. The time and practice paid off. My voice came through for me and hit those notes meant only for the young. I floated in the clouds for about a week following the concert- then looking down on everything I crashed into the ground. The continents in my mind shifted, and without exaggeration I have to say that I've changed. I can't tell you honestly if it's for the better; all I can say is that I haven't returned to how I was. Everything seemed so perfectly aligned when I was preparing for the concert, and now it's not. So, Bob this post isn't specifically about PP and SS. I love them both and was happy I was able to make the tricky segue between those two songs (three 5/4 bars and one 4/4 - oh that Joni!) All I can say is that I just can relate to them. How about you? Love, Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:22:38 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 If you look at this photo of Joni at age 9, I think the resemblance is striking!! http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1322&from=search I'm sure there are other photos on the site that show Daisy as a dead-ringer. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mary Morris Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:13 AM To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 Thank you clearing up a question I had, which is "How do we know this is Daisy?" I have seen the link many times & this is the only time it is addressed. I had to see it a couple times before I "got" it. Of course it clearly looks like Joni's grand kid. I think it is also sweet that that little known fact is omitted on the original utube, so we can all just enjoy the expressive tyke. I think Daisy looks more like Joni than Kilauren does. Just my opinion. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel roadais, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:00:04 -0400 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 765 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown [Susan Tierney McNamara > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 02:13:33 +0000 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > > Yes your right Dan ... I guess my overprotective mother side came out! > Its also cute.she wants to be fashion conscious like her model mom! > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > Dan Olson wrote: > She's adorable, and she is not identified in any way as Joni's > grand-daughter, and no one has commented suggesting they are aware; > the only comments (1 week and 1 month old) couldn't be more innocent > ("I love that ring!"). It's like much of what's (probably) on > you-tube: without identifying key-words, nobody would ever find it. > Us jmdl-ers are the only ones who know who it is (I hope). > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: > > > She's precious and looks just like Joni, but it makes me sad that > > all these old people are now going to watch her videos just because > > she's Joni's granddaughter. Sigh... > > > > > > > > Susan McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > ________________________________________ > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Rose M > > Joy [ rosemjoy@aol.com] > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:56 AM > > To: est86mlm@ameritech.net > > Cc: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com > > Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > > > > Is that Joni's grand daughter ? She's adorable ! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On May 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > > > > > Now when I see Kilauren she looks totally like her dad to me, > > > altho I do agree with you that Joni and Kilauren have a similar > > > sounding speaking voice. > > > > > > On the other hand, altho I do see Kilauren in her daughter, Daisy, > > > to me Joni's grandaughter is a sure-fire Joni look-a-like. Much > > > more so than Kilauren& Joni. > > > > > > Check out her smile at the end of the video - 3:12....WOW.....Joni! > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjDFrcwPCE > > > > > > She sure could be used in the movie as a young Joni. > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: LC Stanley > > > Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > > > > > > She > > > looks a lot like her mama in my eye. Have a look see: > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/kilauren/photos/1025291#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A12629362%7D > > > And, she's got some of the same personality traits too, and voice > > > as others have mentioned. > > > > > > Some of her friends call her "Killer." She'd be way cool playing > > > Joni. I think she's a riot!!! Tequilla! > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > Laura > > > ________________ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:15:25 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 Marlin, not Mervin! Haha. I think she's mentioned Daisy in passing when it comes to modern music and how it's just basically sex. I'm trying to recall a quote about even my grandchild is grabbing her crotch and dancing. I'd have to enter "crotch" on jm.com search engine to find it... ;-) Jamie Zubairi Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, Sent via iPhone so please excuse the brevity and possible typos! On 23 May 2012, at 16:43, Marion Leffler wrote: > I agree, Daisy looks a lot like Joni, and she even moves her hands and body > like Joni in the video, I think. Has Joni ever talked about Daisy? Like she > has about her grandson whom she seemed to be so taken with? In the > interviews I read Joni only talked about Mervin, I always felt she was > ignoring Daisy. Does anyone know if Joni has any contact with her > grandchildren these days, now that they are teenagers? (Having recently > become a granny for the second time I guess these questions are close to me > right now). > Marion > > 2012/5/23 Susan Tierney McNamara > >> If you look at this photo of Joni at age 9, I think the resemblance is >> striking!! >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1322&from=search >> >> I'm sure there are other photos on the site that show Daisy as a >> dead-ringer. :-) >> >> Susan Tierney McNamara >> email: sem8@cornell.edu >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mary >> Morris >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:13 AM >> To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST >> Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 >> >> Thank you clearing up a question I had, which is "How do we know this is >> Daisy?" I have seen the link many times & this is the only time it is >> addressed. I had to see it a couple times before I "got" it. Of course it >> clearly looks like Joni's grand kid. I think it is also sweet that that >> little known fact is omitted on the original utube, so we can all just >> enjoy the expressive tyke. I think Daisy looks more like Joni than >> Kilauren does. >> Just my opinion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel roadais, where the barb wire >> meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:00:04 -0400 >>> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org >>> To: joni-digest@smoe.org >>> Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 >>> >>> >>> JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number >> 765 >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> >>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >>> -------- >>> Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown [Susan Tierney McNamara >> >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 02:13:33 +0000 >>> From: Susan Tierney McNamara >>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown >>> >>> Yes your right Dan ... I guess my overprotective mother side came out! >>> Its also cute.she wants to be fashion conscious like her model mom! >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone >>> >>> Dan Olson wrote: >>> She's adorable, and she is not identified in any way as Joni's >>> grand-daughter, and no one has commented suggesting they are aware; >>> the only comments (1 week and 1 month old) couldn't be more innocent >>> ("I love that ring!"). It's like much of what's (probably) on >>> you-tube: without identifying key-words, nobody would ever find it. >>> Us jmdl-ers are the only ones who know who it is (I hope). >>> >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara >>> wrote: >>> >>>> She's precious and looks just like Joni, but it makes me sad that >>>> all these old people are now going to watch her videos just because >>>> she's Joni's granddaughter. Sigh... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Susan McNamara >>>> email: sem8@cornell.edu >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Rose M >>>> Joy [ rosemjoy@aol.com] >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:56 AM >>>> To: est86mlm@ameritech.net >>>> Cc: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com >>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown >>>> >>>> Is that Joni's grand daughter ? She's adorable ! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now when I see Kilauren she looks totally like her dad to me, >>>>> altho I do agree with you that Joni and Kilauren have a similar >>>>> sounding speaking voice. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, altho I do see Kilauren in her daughter, Daisy, >>>>> to me Joni's grandaughter is a sure-fire Joni look-a-like. Much >>>>> more so than Kilauren& Joni. >>>>> >>>>> Check out her smile at the end of the video - 3:12....WOW.....Joni! >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjDFrcwPCE >>>>> >>>>> She sure could be used in the movie as a young Joni. >>>>> >>>>> Laura >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> From: LC Stanley >>>>> Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown >>>>> >>>>> She >>>>> looks a lot like her mama in my eye. Have a look see: >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> http://www.myspace.com/kilauren/photos/1025291#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A12629362%7D >>>>> And, she's got some of the same personality traits too, and voice >>>>> as others have mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> Some of her friends call her "Killer." She'd be way cool playing >>>>> Joni. I think she's a riot!!! Tequilla! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Love, >>>>> Laura >>>>> ________________ >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #765 >>> ***************************** >>> >>> ------- >>> To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. >>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >>> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 17:43:45 +0200 From: Marion Leffler Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 I agree, Daisy looks a lot like Joni, and she even moves her hands and body like Joni in the video, I think. Has Joni ever talked about Daisy? Like she has about her grandson whom she seemed to be so taken with? In the interviews I read Joni only talked about Mervin, I always felt she was ignoring Daisy. Does anyone know if Joni has any contact with her grandchildren these days, now that they are teenagers? (Having recently become a granny for the second time I guess these questions are close to me right now). Marion 2012/5/23 Susan Tierney McNamara > If you look at this photo of Joni at age 9, I think the resemblance is > striking!! > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1322&from=search > > I'm sure there are other photos on the site that show Daisy as a > dead-ringer. :-) > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mary > Morris > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:13 AM > To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST > Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > > Thank you clearing up a question I had, which is "How do we know this is > Daisy?" I have seen the link many times & this is the only time it is > addressed. I had to see it a couple times before I "got" it. Of course it > clearly looks like Joni's grand kid. I think it is also sweet that that > little known fact is omitted on the original utube, so we can all just > enjoy the expressive tyke. I think Daisy looks more like Joni than > Kilauren does. > Just my opinion. > > > > > > > GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel roadais, where the barb wire > meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:00:04 -0400 > > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > > Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > > > > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number > 765 > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > -------- > > Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown [Susan Tierney McNamara > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 02:13:33 +0000 > > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > > Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > > > > Yes your right Dan ... I guess my overprotective mother side came out! > > Its also cute.she wants to be fashion conscious like her model mom! > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > > > Dan Olson wrote: > > She's adorable, and she is not identified in any way as Joni's > > grand-daughter, and no one has commented suggesting they are aware; > > the only comments (1 week and 1 month old) couldn't be more innocent > > ("I love that ring!"). It's like much of what's (probably) on > > you-tube: without identifying key-words, nobody would ever find it. > > Us jmdl-ers are the only ones who know who it is (I hope). > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Tierney McNamara > > wrote: > > > > > She's precious and looks just like Joni, but it makes me sad that > > > all these old people are now going to watch her videos just because > > > she's Joni's granddaughter. Sigh... > > > > > > > > > > > > Susan McNamara > > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Rose M > > > Joy [ rosemjoy@aol.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:56 AM > > > To: est86mlm@ameritech.net > > > Cc: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com > > > Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > > > > > > Is that Joni's grand daughter ? She's adorable ! > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On May 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > > > > > > > Now when I see Kilauren she looks totally like her dad to me, > > > > altho I do agree with you that Joni and Kilauren have a similar > > > > sounding speaking voice. > > > > > > > > On the other hand, altho I do see Kilauren in her daughter, Daisy, > > > > to me Joni's grandaughter is a sure-fire Joni look-a-like. Much > > > > more so than Kilauren& Joni. > > > > > > > > Check out her smile at the end of the video - 3:12....WOW.....Joni! > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjDFrcwPCE > > > > > > > > She sure could be used in the movie as a young Joni. > > > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > > From: LC Stanley > > > > Subject: Re: Kilauren's morning Morgantown > > > > > > > > She > > > > looks a lot like her mama in my eye. Have a look see: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/kilauren/photos/1025291#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A12629362%7D > > > > And, she's got some of the same personality traits too, and voice > > > > as others have mentioned. > > > > > > > > Some of her friends call her "Killer." She'd be way cool playing > > > > Joni. I think she's a riot!!! Tequilla! > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Laura > > > > ________________ > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #765 > > ***************************** > > > > ------- > > To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. > > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:08:07 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: People's Parties / Same Situation Well, not being a theoretically musical person, I would not have known about the time change segue - is that trickier for a singer or for a musician, or equally as tricky? As for the songs, I think EVERYONE can relate to them if you've lived even a little. People's Parties - oozing with duality; a song about a crowded party and the loneliness and emptiness felt by the singer who is there. Friendly vs. cutting, laughing vs. crying, those in the center vs. those in the wings, and then transitions into a conversation with (presumably) the person she's with at the party describing what she sees as some of her shortcomings and her inability to enjoy a simple party in the same spirit as others. We've all been to a gathering where we felt like we don't fit for one reason or another I'm sure. Same Situation - Certainly a universal feeling in any relationship at some stage, wondering about the true nature of it, the sincerity of it, the staying power of it. "I asked myself when you said you loved me, do you think this can be real" - interesting that she chooses the past tense of 'love' as if she knows it's already in the past. This song is full of interesting word choices. The bit about her not believing in a deity but STILL sending up a prayer - send me somebody who's strong and SOMEWHAT sincere...the idea of compromise. The piece about wanting your partner to be truthful like the church demands truth, like a cop demands truth, like a mother demands the truth, but knowing that your truths will be turned against you is really a strong lyric. And I would imagine that the struggle for higher positions/achievements vs. search for love is something that woman struggle with more than men (careers vs. relationships). I have several friends who made decisions years ago to invest themselves in their careers as opposed to relationships and now they want the relationship and are struggling to find it. Anyway, these songs are both classic Joni - musically intriguing, lyrically original but dealing with universal themes. Like I said yesterday, these songs feel as fresh and as relevant today as they did in 1974. Bob NP: Drive-By Truckers, "easy On Yourself" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Peace, Susan ________________________________ From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Robin Adler Cc: Dave Blackburn ; "joni@smoe.org LIST" Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:08 AM Subject: Re: People's Parties / Same Situation Well, not being a theoretically musical person, I would not have known about the time change segue - is that trickier for a singer or for a musician, or equally as tricky? As for the songs, I think EVERYONE can relate to them if you've lived even a little. People's Parties - oozing with duality; a song about a crowded party and the loneliness and emptiness felt by the singer who is there. Friendly vs. cutting, laughing vs. crying, those in the center vs. those in the wings, and then transitions into a conversation with (presumably) the person she's with at the party describing what she sees as some of her shortcomings and her inability to enjoy a simple party in the same spirit as others. We've all been to a gathering where we felt like we don't fit for one reason or another I'm sure. Same Situation - Certainly a universal feeling in any relationship at some stage, wondering about the true nature of it, the sincerity of it, the staying power of it. "I asked myself when you said you loved me, do you think this can be real" - interesting that she chooses the past tense of 'love' as if she knows it's already in the past. This song is full of interesting word choices. The bit about her not believing in a deity but STILL sending up a prayer - send me somebody who's strong and SOMEWHAT sincere...the idea of compromise. The piece about wanting your partner to be truthful like the church demands truth, like a cop demands truth, like a mother demands the truth, but knowing that your truths will be turned against you is really a strong lyric. And I would imagine that the struggle for higher positions/achievements vs. search for love is something that woman struggle with more than men (careers vs. relationships). I have several friends who made decisions years ago to invest themselves in their careers as opposed to relationships and now they want the relationship and are struggling to find it. Anyway, these songs are both classic Joni - musically intriguing, lyrically original but dealing with universal themes. Like I said yesterday, these songs feel as fresh and as relevant today as they did in 1974. Bob NP: Drive-By Truckers, "easy On Yourself" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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