From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #144 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, May 17 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 144 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Kilauren Sings Morgan Town [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Joni Mention Texas Monthly Collings Guitar's [Happy The Man ] who should portray Joni? part #.... [Martha Winkel ] Calling UK Joni Folk! [William Waddell ] Re: who should portray Joni? part #.... [Jimmy Stewart ] Re: RE: a case of you [daligay@googlemail.com] Re: who should portray Joni? [Paul Ivice ] Fwd: Another thought for Joni role - Sabine Moureau [Phyliss Ward Subject: Joni Mention Texas Monthly Collings Guitar's http://www.texasmonthly.com/2012-05-01/theworkinglife2.php Peace, Craig NP: Sara Watkins - You and Me ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:34:49 -0400 From: Rose M Joy Subject: Re: who should portray Joni? What about Kilauren? Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Dan Olson wrote: > Note also that Jessica Lange lip-synched the Patsy Cline singing. So > perhaps whoever plays Joni could do the same. Even when singers > sing their > own parts in movies, they lip-synch vocals actually done in a > recording > studio. > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: > >> yeah, I agree with Paul here ... if you think about the way the book >> played out, most of the story was about the start of their careers >> pre-30. >> I think they will go with actresses in their 20s ... it's easier to >> make >> them look older than make older actresses look younger ... I think >> going >> with talented newcomers would be great. I also agree that good >> acting is >> better than good musicianship ... Sissy Spacek was brilliant as >> Loretta >> Lynn (and I think she sang this role, too, right?) She didn't look >> exactly >> like Loretta either. Also, Jessica Lange did a great job with >> Patsy Cline, >> but didn't really look exactly like her. >> >> sue >> >> >> email: sem8@cornell.edu >> ________________________________________ >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Paul >> Ivice [ >> ivpaul42@aol.com] >> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:52 PM >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Subject: who should portray Joni? >> >> I strongly agree with Marianne that the search for an actress >> should be a >>> search for someone with great acting abilities and who can capture >>> some >> of >>> Joni's mystique, and not centre around any musical ability rather >>> except >>> for the absolutely necessary, and I wonder how about Uma Thurman, >>> who'll >>> meet that credential? >> >> Isn't the story to be filmed about how these women broke into the >> music >> scene >> to become stars when they were in their 20s? >> Uma is 42, Charlize is 37. I know they are both great actors but >> expecting >> either of them to play a credible Joni, who was 24 (and looked and >> sounded >> younger) when she wrote Woodstock, is a huge stretch,when someone >> like >> 22-year-old Taylor Swift might be available. >> >> Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:29:46 -0400 From: Martha Winkel Subject: who should portray Joni? part #.... I recently listened to an interview with Sissy Spacek on NPR about her new autobiography, "My Extraordinary, Ordinary Life". She stated that Loretta Lynn chose her to portray her in the movie, "Coal Miner's Daughter". Wouldn't it be wonderful if Joni made her own choice of actress? Martha On May 13, 2012, at 12:57 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Sunday, May 13 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 716 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > who should portray Joni? [Paul Ivice ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 12:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > From: Paul Ivice > Subject: who should portray Joni? > > I strongly agree with Marianne that the search for an actress should be a >> search for someone with great acting abilities and who can capture some of >> Joni's mystique, and not centre around any musical ability rather except >> for the absolutely necessary, and I wonder how about Uma Thurman, who'll >> meet that credential? > > Isn't the story to be filmed about how these women broke into the music scene > to become stars when they were in their 20s? > Uma is 42, Charlize is 37. I know they are both great actors but expecting > either of them to play a credible Joni, who was 24 (and looked and sounded > younger) when she wrote Woodstock, is a huge stretch,when someone like > 22-year-old Taylor Swift might be available. > > Paul Ivice ;>) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #716 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:37:55 +0000 From: William Waddell Subject: Calling UK Joni Folk! Woman of Heart and Mind is on Sky Arts 1 this afternoon (Monday 14th) at 3.30. Doesn't look like it's being shown again later.WtS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 14:40:15 -0400 From: Jimmy Stewart Subject: Re: who should portray Joni? part #.... That's a great idea Martha. Nobody on the list will be pleased with whom portrays Joni no matter how good of an actress she may be. If Joan gets to have a say so, we might all be happy. Jimmy ....gesendet von meinem iPhone On May 14, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Martha Winkel wrote: > I recently listened to an interview with Sissy Spacek on NPR about her new autobiography, "My Extraordinary, Ordinary Life". > She stated that Loretta Lynn chose her to portray her in the movie, "Coal Miner's Daughter". > Wouldn't it be wonderful if Joni made her own choice of actress? > Martha > > On May 13, 2012, at 12:57 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > >> >> JMDL Digest Sunday, May 13 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 716 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> who should portray Joni? [Paul Ivice ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 12:52:06 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Paul Ivice >> Subject: who should portray Joni? >> >> I strongly agree with Marianne that the search for an actress should be a >>> search for someone with great acting abilities and who can capture some of >>> Joni's mystique, and not centre around any musical ability rather except >>> for the absolutely necessary, and I wonder how about Uma Thurman, who'll >>> meet that credential? >> >> Isn't the story to be filmed about how these women broke into the music scene >> to become stars when they were in their 20s? >> Uma is 42, Charlize is 37. I know they are both great actors but expecting >> either of them to play a credible Joni, who was 24 (and looked and sounded >> younger) when she wrote Woodstock, is a huge stretch,when someone like >> 22-year-old Taylor Swift might be available. >> >> Paul Ivice ;>) >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #716 >> ***************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:03:30 +0000 From: daligay@googlemail.com Subject: Re: RE: a case of you Absolutely ! That's it. There is a thin line sometimes between loving someone and being a doormat ! I doubt that Joni is one of those people who "love too much" although at times I have as an onlooker thought "get out of that, darling." I suppose that's very easy from the outside. Of course I've been there too. That's why she's so loved by us all. She sings what we all experience and feel. Sorry for being so "me" in my observations , so brash about such a lovely song and thanks for throwing some more light on it for me. .. She's got good feet Ms Mitchell...and yes those chords well they are a whole other world. Thankyou, Susan. On May 14, 2012 5:01pm, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > When we talk about A Case of You in this manner, it also reminds me of > Don't Interrupt The Sorrow ... I think there is a thin line > between "doormat" and the attitude that a woman can take everything > that's being thrown at her and "still stay on my feet." The reason why I > love these songs so much is they transmitted to me my own "feet of clay" > when I think I can love a person who really doesn't have my best > interests in mind (be prepared to bleed!). I felt a camaraderie with Joni > in feeling like a storm trooper in complicated relationships with > complicated people (including myself!) I don't think we can ever talk > about these songs in black and white. Joni's genius was conveying these > heartbreaking emotions not only through her lyrics but her achingly > beautiful chord structures (and ACOY with only four strings!) . > Brilliant!!! > Take care, Sue > email: sem8@cornell.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jamie > Zubairi > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:52 PM > To: Michael Flaherty > Cc: ingrid lochrenberg; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: a case of you > Joni says that this song is a response to all the "doormat songs" that > are written for women to sing - songs about waiting their man to come > home. Joni thought she'd write a song where the woman could "drink him > under the table" and be his equal and still come up top. > Jamie Zubairi > Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, > On 13 May 2012, at 16:32, Michael Flaherty mflaher3@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Well, from what I understand it wasn't written for "A" man, but for 3: > Leonard Cohen (verse 1), Graham Nash (verse 2), and James Taylor (verse > 3). > > > > Even if those identifications are wrong, I think it's very safe to say > that the "you" is male. > > > > Michael F. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: ingrid lochrenberg jspbeach@telkomsa.net> > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:01 AM > > Subject: a case of you > > > > i do NOT believe that the song (a case of you) was written for a > man....I think that intuitively, nobody believes it...am i wrong? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:19:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Re: who should portray Joni? - -----Original Message----- From: Rose M Joy To: Dan Olson Cc: Susan Tierney McNamara ; Paul Ivice ; joni Sent: Tue, May 15, 2012 2:35 pm Subject: Re: who should portray Joni? What about Kilauren? Well, let's see. What's wrong with this suggestion? Besides the obvioous potential emotional strife she might face in understaking such a role, Kilauren is over 40 years old now and has no appreciable acting experience. That should be three strikes against her in anyone's book. Paul Ivice ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 19:20:01 -0400 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Fwd: Another thought for Joni role - Sabine Moureau > Real name is Lea seydoux! > > Phyliss > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Phyliss Ward >> Date: May 13, 2012 7:14:15 PM EDT >> To: JMDL >> Subject: Another thought for Joni role - Sabine Moureau >> >> She was in midnight in Paris and tMission Impossible Ghost Protocol. She has the look, age, and acting chops. Don't know if she can sing.... >> >> http://missbehavemisbehaving.tumblr.com/post/14563998321/leaseydoux >> >> Phyliss ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #144 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe