From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #141 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 15 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 141 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: who should portray Joni? [Susan Tierney McNamara ] RE: RE: a case of you [Susan Tierney McNamara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:25:34 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: who should portray Joni? yeah, I agree with Paul here ... if you think about the way the book played out, most of the story was about the start of their careers pre-30. I think they will go with actresses in their 20s ... it's easier to make them look older than make older actresses look younger ... I think going with talented newcomers would be great. I also agree that good acting is better than good musicianship ... Sissy Spacek was brilliant as Loretta Lynn (and I think she sang this role, too, right?) She didn't look exactly like Loretta either. Also, Jessica Lange did a great job with Patsy Cline, but didn't really look exactly like her. sue email: sem8@cornell.edu ________________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Paul Ivice [ivpaul42@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:52 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: who should portray Joni? I strongly agree with Marianne that the search for an actress should be a > search for someone with great acting abilities and who can capture some of > Joni's mystique, and not centre around any musical ability rather except > for the absolutely necessary, and I wonder how about Uma Thurman, who'll > meet that credential? Isn't the story to be filmed about how these women broke into the music scene to become stars when they were in their 20s? Uma is 42, Charlize is 37. I know they are both great actors but expecting either of them to play a credible Joni, who was 24 (and looked and sounded younger) when she wrote Woodstock, is a huge stretch,when someone like 22-year-old Taylor Swift might be available. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:08:32 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: RE: a case of you Thank you! Oh I know what it's like to be "drunk" with love and all the hangovers, too! :) Blue was such a gift during those hangovers, for sure!!! :) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu From: daligay@googlemail.com [mailto:daligay@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:04 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: Jamie Zubairi; Michael Flaherty; ingrid lochrenberg; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: RE: a case of you Absolutely ! That's it. There is a thin line sometimes between loving someone and being a doormat ! I doubt that Joni is one of those people who "love too much" although at times I have as an onlooker thought "get out of that, darling." I suppose that's very easy from the outside. Of course I've been there too. That's why she's so loved by us all. She sings what we all experience and feel. Sorry for being so "me" in my observations , so brash about such a lovely song and thanks for throwing some more light on it for me. .. She's got good feet Ms Mitchell...and yes those chords well they are a whole other world. Thankyou, Susan. On May 14, 2012 5:01pm, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: > When we talk about A Case of You in this manner, it also reminds me of Don't Interrupt The Sorrow ... I think there is a thin line between "doormat" and the attitude that a woman can take everything that's being thrown at her and "still stay on my feet." The reason why I love these songs so much is they transmitted to me my own "feet of clay" when I think I can love a person who really doesn't have my best interests in mind (be prepared to bleed!). I felt a camaraderie with Joni in feeling like a storm trooper in complicated relationships with complicated people (including myself!) I don't think we can ever talk about these songs in black and white. Joni's genius was conveying these heartbreaking emotions not only through her lyrics but her achingly beautiful chord structures (and ACOY with only four strings!) . Brilliant!!! > > > > > > Take care, Sue > > > > > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Zubairi > > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:52 PM > > > To: Michael Flaherty > > > Cc: ingrid lochrenberg; joni@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: a case of you > > > > > > Joni says that this song is a response to all the "doormat songs" that are written for women to sing - songs about waiting their man to come home. Joni thought she'd write a song where the woman could "drink him under the table" and be his equal and still come up top. > > > > > > Jamie Zubairi > > > Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, > > > > > > On 13 May 2012, at 16:32, Michael Flaherty mflaher3@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, from what I understand it wasn't written for "A" man, but for 3: Leonard Cohen (verse 1), Graham Nash (verse 2), and James Taylor (verse 3). > > > > > > > > Even if those identifications are wrong, I think it's very safe to say that the "you" is male. > > > > > > > > Michael F. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: ingrid lochrenberg jspbeach@telkomsa.net> > > > > To: joni@smoe.org > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:01 AM > > > > Subject: a case of you > > > > > > > > i do NOT believe that the song (a case of you) was written for a man....I think that intuitively, nobody believes it...am i wrong? ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #141 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe