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onlyJMDL Digest        Thursday, May 3 2012        Volume 2012 : Number 127



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
--------
  Joni's River on New Girl TV Show Last Night        [est86mlm@ameritech.net]
  Re: question and Don't Interrupt the Sorrow  [Robin Adler <robinadler@sbcg]
  Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #644         ["Cindy Casey RN" <ccaseyrn@hughes.net>]
  Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #651           [LC Stanley <sillyseabird7@yahoo.com>]
  Re: CSN by Joni Artwork             ["Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>]
  Re: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show  interview  [Lieve Reckers <lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk]
  Re: question and Don't Interrupt the Sorrow  [LC Stanley <sillyseabird7@ya]
  RE: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show interview  []
  Re: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show  interview  [Robin Adler <robinadler@sbcglobal.net]
  RE: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show interview  []

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 19:26:01 -0500
From: est86mlm@ameritech.net
Subject: Joni's River on New Girl TV Show Last Night

While surfing I caught the beginning of this show.......or rather the 
music caught me.
Never saw this before.  Thought it was Katy Perry....LOL

Joni's RIVER was playing for about the first 5 minutes of the show.

Here's a recap I found online:

"Jess doesn't deal well with break-ups. Only, instead of watching Dirty 
Dancing 937 times in a row, this time she listened repeatedly to Joni 
Mitchell's <i>River</i>. The roommates had very little sympathy 18 hours 
of Joni later. Or, as Winston put it, "I liked it when you played it for 
the first time at 10 o'clock last night. I liked it a little bit less at 
2 a.m., and now I'm kind of hoping that the sun comes up, thaws that 
river, and that woman drowns." Nick and Caroline even made up a clapping 
and booty-popping dance mocking Jess's despair. "

It was funny......because Jess was playing it over and over again.

Here's 2 scenes I was able to find.

Click on Breakup and then click on The Right Choice
http://www.fox.com/new-girl/videos/?bctag=new+girl&bcsubtag=backslide

Anyone else catch this?

Laura


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:21:21 -0700
From: Robin Adler <robinadler@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: question and Don't Interrupt the Sorrow

Wow Laura!  Fantastic description...That was my general feeling about the song
but your words really bring it to life for me.
Thank you dear friend.
Robin
On May 1, 2012, at 11:11 AM, LC Stanley wrote:

> Hi Robin!
>
> 	Great to hear from you!  I am no NJC expert, but I think Mutts is about as
JONI as you can get!  Ya'll ROCK!!!!
>
> 	Don't Interrupt the Sorrow is one of my most favorite Joni songs.  I always
think of Catherine because of the anima rising part.  (Hi Catherine!)  Anima
means soul in church talk.  It also can mean true self, and it's the female
part of the male psyche to Jung.
>
> 	I've always thought of the song as a feminist purge song set in a bar.
Bars are stereo-typed places where womanizing happens.
>
> 	 A rather cruel image of women is in the treatment of outspoken prophetic
women as witches being burned and the slave-like chaining to the Ethiopian
wall.  Then comes the fact that some women are so programed that they are
polite even to mean men.  The southern reference where Joni mentions the bible
belt, good slaves, and a rebel with a cause seems goes further with analogy of
women being enslaved by men, a depraved social strata of the times in the
Feminist mind.  Female/male tension is throughout the song.  The ancient crown
to fight seems to refer to male domination entrained in the patriarchal
society.  The goddess wanting revenge can be in the soul-rising of women who
can use sex to make men vulnerable.  The guilty act in the Garden of Eden at
the hand of the serpent supposedly caused the pain of childbirth and human
mortality, the cycle of death and birth and death and birth.
>
> 	Paradoxically, the women's sorrow can be like a drug that keeps them bonded
to men... like the hormonal sorrow women have in their menstrual cycle close
to ovulation where the biological need for a man is the strongest.
>
> 	I wonder if "Mary" is Jesus' mom who is sometimes referred to as Our Lady
of Sorrows in regard to Jesus' passion and death?  To stay with unfaithful
men, sorrowful women would need the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  The truth that
goes up in vapors is the fault with men of the church keeping women oppressed.
The unfaithful womanizer could fit the mentality of a womanizing church.
History shows that regardless of the ageless fight, women have been kept in a
place of oppression and given up the fight like trees becoming petrified.
>
> Love,
> Laura
>
> From: Robin Adler <robinadler@sbcglobal.net>
> To: LC Stanley <sillyseabird7@yahoo.com>
> Cc: ingrid lochrenberg <jspbeach@telkomsa.net>; "joni@smoe.org"
<joni@smoe.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:49 AM
> Subject: NJC question and Don't Interrupt the Sorrow
>
> Hi Laura,
> I always enjoy reading your posts......
>
> I have wondered when Dave posts something about our Mutts band if that is
> allowed under Joni content or if we should put NJC in the subject line. It
is
> a band that only plays Joni material but not sure if that alone counts.
>
> Also, I am working on "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" for a concert coming
up".
> I'm sure it has been discussed by the list but it has been awhile.  I'd
love
> your input.
>
> Wishing you all well,
> Robin
>
>

thanks,

Robin
- -------------------------------------------------
New CD available now!
"Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell" by Robin Adler & Mutts of
the Planet.
To listen or learn more:
http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet
To purchase: http://www.robinadler.com/products.html

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:13:44 -0500
From: "Cindy Casey RN" <ccaseyrn@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #644

God Bless you Michael ...BUT...the touring artists you have mentioned do not 
suffer with Morgellons Disease.  This condition makes a huge difference in 
one's capability to do anything.  So please hope for research and treatment 
for this horrible and debilitating illness which affects thousands 
worldwide.

Cindy
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To: <joni-digest@smoe.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:10 AM
Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #644


>
> JMDL Digest          Monday, April 30 2012          Volume 2012 : Number 
> 644
>
>
>
> ==========
>
> TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
> --------
>  Joni's non-appearance             [Michael Sentance 
> <mjsentance@gmail.com>]
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:08:44 -0400
> From: Michael Sentance <mjsentance@gmail.com>
> Subject: Joni's non-appearance
>
> It wasn't too surprising that the Milan concert news turned out to be
> false. After all, in some parts of the world, fraud isn't a crime, it's a
> marketing strategy.
>
> But with all due respect...
>
> Paul Ivice <ivpaul42@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Our Joni is now 68 years old and probably past the point where she could
>> pull off a concert appearance.
>>
>
> God bless you, Paul but...
>
> Leonard Cohen (77) is in the middle of a tour in Europe and will be
> appearing in the U.S. later in 2012, having recently released "Old Ideas".
>
> Judy Collins (72) will perform in many concerts in 2012, performing songs
> from the recently-released "Bohemian".
>
> Herbie Hancock (72) is appearing through out the U.S. and Europe in 2012.
>
> Tom Rush (71) is constantly touring and is a joy to see.
>
> Joan Baez (71) is currently performing in Europe in a very active 
> schedule.
>
> Bob Dylan (70) is touring in South America and Europe in 2012.
>
> James Taylor (64) has a very active concert schedule.
>
> Jackson Browne (63) has a very schedule with the "Summer Acoustic Tour".
>
> And the boys, David Crosby (70), Stephen Stills (67), Graham Nash (70), 
> and
> Neil Young (66) are still rocking out across the country.
>
>
> Now I'll go back on the porch to yell at the kids on my lawn.
>
> And hope for Joni's comeback appearance.
>
> All the best,
>
> Michael
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #644
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 10:33:12 -0500
From: LC Stanley <sillyseabird7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #651

Cindy,

So what if there was no identified infective source?  Lack of identification doesn't rule out existence of an infective source.  And, regardless of infective source or not, the finding of abnormal fibers is factual.

It seems like effort toward solving the mystery of the fibers would be more worthwhile than giving any attention at all to research that offers no solution.

I like the turn it into something positive attitude of this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Of_2ykZpQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Love,
Laura



On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:28 PM, "Cindy Casey RN" <ccaseyrn@hughes.net> wrote:

> Moni,
> 
> With all due respect,  I do hope that you are NOT considering the CDC report as acceptable?  Those who research Morgellons Disease and those who have Morgellons are in the highest possible opposition of the CDC report (link which you posted).
> 
> In fact, at our recent conference in Austin TX,  the CDC report which you have posted was dissected by a variety of medical specialties and determined by one prominent dermatologist to be absolute "Hogwash".  I gave a presentation titled "Institutional Cognitive Dissonance"  which depicted our national health associations' incompetence with regard to the study you posted and the CDC's complete failure in  addressing a very serious and progressive medical condition.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JMDL Digest" <owner-joni-digest@smoe.org>
> To: <joni-digest@smoe.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:27 PM
> Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #651
> 
> 
>> 
>> JMDL Digest          Monday, April 30 2012          Volume 2012 : Number 651
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ==========
>> 
>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
>> --------
>> Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #646            [Moni Kellermann <kellerfrau@gmx.de>]
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:27:32 +0200
>> From: Moni Kellermann <kellerfrau@gmx.de>
>> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #646
>> 
>> Am 30.04.2012 19:07, Wie Cindy Casey RN so vortrefflich formulierte:
>>> Just fyi...Polio has not returned. The condition that Joni has is called
>>> Morgellons Disease. It is a progressive and debilitating condition which
>>> is only recently being researched. For more information on Morgellons
>>> Disease, please visit The Charles E. Holman Foundation website.
>>> http://www.thecehf.org
>> 
>> You may also be interested in reading this:
>> 
>> http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0029908
>> 
>> 
>> moni k.
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> End of JMDL Digest V2012 #651
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:30:27 -0700
From: "Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: CSN by Joni Artwork

"Replay" was released in 1980. You can find the LP on 
ebay-another way to get the Joni artwork at a reasonable
price. Apparently they made a CD but it is rare and pricey.
I guess you could think of if as a companion to "So Far", 
which also featured a CSN portrait by Joni.
RR

> http://tinyurl.com/8x2d9nf
> Had not seen this painting before - a poster for CSN. Did a search on 
> "Crosby" and didn't see it in the painting database either. 
> I love how she captures these guys so well in this psychedelic style.
> Bob

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:15:26 +0100 (BST)
From: Lieve Reckers <lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show  interview

Wonderful!
Pity he could not recall the Mutts name fast enough, but hey, we
all have those senior moments.  All is forgiven when he plays so
beautifully...

Lieve in London



>________________________________
> From:
Susan Tierney McNamara <sem8@cornell.edu>
>To: Dave Blackburn
<beatntrack@sbcglobal.net>; "joni@smoe.org LIST" <joni@smoe.org> 
>Sent:
Tuesday, 1 May 2012, 15:38
>Subject: RE: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a
mention in a NAMM show  interview
> 
>And a swanky outfit it is!!
>
>Here's a
clip of him and his guitarist doing Twisted at NAMM:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ck5nj4j
>
>Awesome!!  
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave
Blackburn
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:20 PM
>To: joni@smoe.org LIST
>Subject: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show interview
>
>Albeit being referred to as "an outfit" it's still nice for the Mutts to be
first on Max's list of cool things he did in 2011.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmx4dfRtAA&feature=related

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: LC Stanley <sillyseabird7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: question and Don't Interrupt the Sorrow

Hi Robin!

Great to hear from you!  I am no NJC expert, but I think Mutts is
about as JONI as you can get!  Ya'll ROCK!!!!  

Don't Interrupt the Sorrow is
one of my most favorite Joni songs.  I always think of Catherine because of
the anima rising part.  (Hi Catherine!)  Anima means soul in church talk.  It
also can mean true self, and it's the female part of the male psyche to Jung.
I've always thought of the song as a feminist purge song set in a bar.  Bars
are stereo-typed places where womanizing happens.  

 A rather cruel image
of women is in the treatment of outspoken prophetic women as witches being
burned and the slave-like chaining to the Ethiopian wall.  Then comes the fact
that some women are so programed that they are polite even to mean men.  The
southern reference where Joni mentions the bible belt, good slaves, and a
rebel with a cause seems goes further with analogy of women being enslaved by
men, a depraved social strata of the times in the Feminist mind.  Female/male
tension is throughout the song.  The ancient crown to fight seems to refer to
male domination entrained in the patriarchal society.  The goddess wanting
revenge can be in the soul-rising of women who can use sex to make men
vulnerable.  The guilty act in the Garden of Eden at the hand of the serpent
supposedly caused the pain of childbirth and human mortality, the cycle of
death and birth and death and birth.

Paradoxically, the women's sorrow can be
like a drug that keeps them bonded to men... like the hormonal sorrow women
have in their menstrual cycle close to ovulation where the biological need for
a man is the strongest.  

I wonder if "Mary" is Jesus' mom who is sometimes
referred to as Our Lady of Sorrows in regard to Jesus' passion and death?  To
stay with unfaithful men, sorrowful women would need the Immaculate Heart of
Mary.  The truth that goes up in vapors is the fault with men of the church
keeping women oppressed.  The unfaithful womanizer could fit the mentality of
a womanizing church.  History shows that regardless of the ageless fight,
women have been kept in a place of oppression and given up the fight like
trees becoming petrified.

Love, 
Laura


________________________________
From: Robin Adler <robinadler@sbcglobal.net>
To: LC Stanley
<sillyseabird7@yahoo.com> 
Cc: ingrid lochrenberg <jspbeach@telkomsa.net>;
"joni@smoe.org" <joni@smoe.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject:
NJC question and Don't Interrupt the Sorrow
 
Hi Laura,
I always enjoy reading
your posts......

I have wondered when Dave posts something about our Mutts
band if that is
allowed under Joni content or if we should put NJC in the
subject line. It is
a band that only plays Joni material but not sure if that
alone counts.

Also, I am working on "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" for a
concert coming up".
I'm sure it has been discussed by the list but it has been
awhile.  I'd love
your input.

Wishing you all well,
Robin

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 14:38:35 +0000
From: Susan Tierney McNamara <sem8@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show interview

And a swanky outfit it is!!

Here's a clip of him and his guitarist doing Twisted at NAMM:

http://tinyurl.com/ck5nj4j

Awesome!!  


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:20 PM
To: joni@smoe.org LIST
Subject: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show interview

Albeit being referred to as "an outfit" it's still nice for the Mutts to be first on Max's list of cool things he did in 2011.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmx4dfRtAA&feature=related

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:34:29 -0700
From: Robin Adler <robinadler@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show  interview

I am so glad Max enjoyed playing Joni's music again.  I think he appreciates
her even more now that he revisited the songs.  We've been invited to his
birthday party (I think his 84th) at the end of the month.  I wonder who else
has been invited?????? :-)
On May 1, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Lieve Reckers wrote:

> Wonderful!
> Pity he could not recall the Mutts name fast enough, but hey, we
> all have those senior moments.  All is forgiven when he plays so
> beautifully...
>
> Lieve in London
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From:
> Susan Tierney McNamara <sem8@cornell.edu>
>> To: Dave Blackburn
> <beatntrack@sbcglobal.net>; "joni@smoe.org LIST" <joni@smoe.org>
>> Sent:
> Tuesday, 1 May 2012, 15:38
>> Subject: RE: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a
> mention in a NAMM show  interview
>>
>> And a swanky outfit it is!!
>>
>> Here's a
> clip of him and his guitarist doing Twisted at NAMM:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ck5nj4j
>>
>> Awesome!!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave
> Blackburn
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:20 PM
>> To: joni@smoe.org LIST
>> Subject: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show
interview
>>
>> Albeit being referred to as "an outfit" it's still nice for the Mutts to
be
> first on Max's list of cool things he did in 2011.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmx4dfRtAA&feature=related

thanks,

Robin
- -------------------------------------------------
New CD available now!
"Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell" by Robin Adler & Mutts of
the Planet.
To listen or learn more:
http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet
To purchase: http://www.robinadler.com/products.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:45:26 -0700
From: "kbhla" <kbhla@fastmail.fm>
Subject: RE: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show interview

Dave and Robin,

That is so wonderful and cool!  You can tell he loves you two.  Arrgh, wish
I could have seen him at NAMM.

Paz,

Great to hear of your stratospheric night of music and friends!  And,
D*@#it, when are you all going to come back out to take us to NAMM again?
;-) 

Kakki

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:24:05 -0500
From: Michael Paz <michael@thepazgroup.com>
Subject: Re: Max Bennett gives the Mutts show a mention in a NAMM show
interview

Thanks for posting this. It led me to this cool performance there as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAEgVeoVndA&feature=relmfu

sounds like Twisted poop shooby and the band was SCHWINGING


Michael Paz
michael@thepazgroup.com

Tour Manager
Preservation Hall Jazz Band
http://www.preservationhall.com




On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote:

Albeit being referred to as "an outfit" it's still nice for the Mutts to be
first on Max's list of cool things he did in 2011.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmx4dfRtAA&feature=related

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