From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #111 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 22 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 111 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni is Back? [Fabio Cocchi ] topic? [Art Toegemann ] Taylor Swift as Joni [Sharon Watkins ] speaking out of turn ["ingrid lochrenberg" ] Joni Covers #143 Speak of the Devil [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni is Back? ["Mark" ] eternity ["ingrid lochrenberg" ] Joni Covers #143 [Bob Muller ] New Library item: Taylor Swift to Play Joni Mitchell? [TheStaff@JoniMitch] Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song ["Robert Sartorius" ] Re: Sweet Judy Blue Eyes... [Anita G ] Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song [Catherine McKay ] Liz Smith on Joni 4.19.12 ["stephen clifton" Subject: Joni is Back? Hi everybody ! I was quite shocked reading today in the news ( Corriere della Sera, the most important italian newspaper ) that Joni is scheduled to perform in Milan this summer!!!! Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 23:44:01 +0000 From: Art Toegemann Subject: topic? I'm new to this. My topic is: I wish Joni would quit smoking. I quit years ago and mycreativity increased. I saw the interviews from Charlie Rose's Green Room.I'm not sure it shows; I did think she was older than she was. I don't usually make such an effort. Art Toegemannfan from the beginning ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:14:32 -0500 From: Sharon Watkins Subject: Taylor Swift as Joni At first I hated the idea of Taylor portraying Joni. I'm not concerned about her acting, but I'm still not sure how her thin voice can ever duplicate Joni's range. However, Taylor is a beautiful girl, and perhaps she is just the one to introduce Joni to the current generation and gain a new following for Joni's amazing music. If Taylor can accomplish this, I'm all for it! Sharon Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:37:45 +0200 From: "ingrid lochrenberg" Subject: speaking out of turn A suggestion about Morgellon's : before succumbing to general ill-heath last year on my admittance to Valkenberg Hospital and having endured sharp bites in my bed for a year or more which my dogs who sleep with me obviously weren't prey to, I visualised black spots on my feet, spot seemingly starting to grow out of my feet like wire and hair. For some cultures/religions, the individual is dispensable....I think that possibly Morgellon's is a form of chemical warfare practised by those who know that a certain level/escape velocity of individualism presents a threat to mass-delusion or self-glorification....even my insect repellant seemed poisonous to me and in fact when i plugged it out of it's socket i did immediately feel better. Individuality is so much more the powerful threat to mass-hysteria and general evilness and mass-delusion. Luckily people who sell their souls for power and glory can only be destructive: it is a choice to consciously inflict damage on other people, ....attacking the people who might mar your plans is so much more effective when they are isolated thereby....people who part with goodness consciously make themselves subordinate not to the creative, but to the destructive...blaming the devil for ones evilness is so cowardly and misinformed....every individual has to take responsibility....it is misguided to think that the devil ever was evil...what exactly it is that the devil did wrong i can only imagine....more likely it was 'man' being just as jealous as their god which was created in their image wanting all the glory...males, especially when they are beautiful which they soften are, sometimes seem deliriouss wiht their own beauty... boys are beautiful..if you experience jealousy it's a good idea to strive for it is you think you lack, instead of wanting to damage the person you're jealouss of...every thing is possible given enough time and sincere application. Chemical warfare on an individual basis exonerates cultures and religions...every religion has their criminals and the criminals should be publicly confronted, the utterings of the republicans in america seem to me positively evil at times. Deception is a distortion of reality and the mark of those that have chosen to be evil....identifying them is sometimes difficult and if you don't reach that insight in your mind, matter the material body will bring it to your awareness in a painful way. God made in the image of man was jealous....possibly of the god that people cry out to, women particularly when they are having a good time....in fact man, made in god's image are possibly more jealouss...i have in my life experienced by far the worse bitchiness from men.....in fact almost exclusively it has come toward me from men- women also leave me cold, they can be the worst of the lot and the worst psycopaths...endless feeding off other's libidos...at least men were left with a bigger spark,to be used for good or evil.....but the vanity of men far surpasses that of women.....glory is what they are after...(and please do not hold me to all of this-it is my truth for the moment- know i'm condemining left right and center- just want to get something of my chest)_...men are jealouss of the god that gets cried to during pleasure and at the threat of losing your life...i think god is the universe,a farther expance, a seafarer, a further wave a further expanse and that the goddess which is more than god has far more wisdom, any millions of them...isolating someone and then trying to destroy them is an excellent strategy for the criminal minded....people only are worthy of forgiveness if they put their evil intentions behind them...there should be no pressure on mortals to forgive one another.....if they do they do...maybe just better not to judge....but you have to have judgement and boot those with horribleness inside out of your life- it is their decision to be evil and the devil has tricked them and they's at the mercy of libido the life force.....Christ rejected the devil...the devil always gets the blame and maybe god was jealous of this entity but perhaps god and the devil are the same just that the devil has a space outside this universe having been banned there...lucifer or lillith is a bringer of the life principle...we're all at the mercy of the intent of the life 'force' libido is a better word, not the force for destruction which never creates but only destroys....thanatos is a redemmer cos you get reincarnated perhaps as a snail or a spider or a fish....boot those jealouss people out of your life joni...if they knew what was good for them they'd pursue their dreams with conviction that they can also create their destiny: if you deliberately choose to hurt someone for pleasure you are controlling or sadistic...if you're angry then go for it....anger is women best ally..i laugh a lot to myself....people's perversion will catch up with them: and if you want to live forever be at peace that all your lies and deceits will catch up with you.....if the bedbugs and chemical dust proliferates the whole world will be on anti-psychotics! God said dias dess...there are millions of goddesses but only 1 god, the pantheistic universe which has already come. God exits in deperation and in extreme pleasure- that is how i know that the word god has a place.....but i pray to the goddess, yoowah....I do also believe that jesus was imacculately conceivedbut it's virtually immaterial as as was the universe...it is emminently possible as the universe is a free lunch.....cretaing one semen (ite) is no problem for the creator...maybe i'll apply to be a rabbi but first i'd have to shake off my afrikanerdom (never considered myself anything but afrikaans-speaking, since i was raised afrikaans-speaking...but being an individual is the best of all. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers #143 Speak of the Devil Like I said at the Howling Wolf - some of the things I have to follow....anyway, here is Joni Covers # 143, a strange little thing, as they all are in one way or another. Some great stuff and some bootleg stuff. The vocalist on Prince's cover of BMR is Elisa Fiorillo. Several of these folks (including Prince) are on their 2nd or even 3rd turn at covering Joni, including Paz' pal Susan Cowsill. The BSN from Outsider came from a Frank Sinatra tribute CD. Here's a link: http://tinyurl.com/bm38qos And these are the (un)usual suspects: 1. Compassionate Dictatorship - Both Sides Now 2. Beth Waters - River 3. Anne Sofie von Otter & Brad Mehldau - Marcie 4. Theo Bleckmann - The Fiddle And The Drum 5. Folk Som Oss - Skyler (BSN in Norwegian) 6. Susan Cowsill - Free Man In Paris 7. Shelean Newman - River 8. Morty Baumann - Both Sides Now 9. I Teos - Circle Game 10. Valeria Zulli - A Case Of You 11. Prince & Elisa Fiorillo - Blue Motel Room 12. Mistletoe Singers - River 13. Joachim Goerke & Band - Both Sides Now 14. Francois Corneloup, Helene Labarriere & Simon Goubert - Roses Blue 15. Bermuda Triangle - - Circle Game 16. Michael L. Carter - Both Sides Now 17. Phish - Free Man In Paris 18. Roma di Luna - River 19. Outsider - Both Sides Now 19 songs - 19 hits! Enjoy. Bob NP: The Band, "Daniel & The Sacred Harp" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:55:37 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni is Back? So: who should play Carly and Carole? Well Angelina Jolie has the lips to play Carly. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:33:33 +0200 From: "ingrid lochrenberg" Subject: eternity Marianne What I meant by wanting to get through to her for eternity is confined to my roughly 47-year old life but she would be worth eternity to me in a way....i can't imagine carrying on if she wasn't around. So long ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:36:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers #143 Looks like there is a problem with the YouSendIt servers at the moment, hopefully it's fixed soon... Bob NP: Gail Engling, "Free Man In Paris" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:59:36 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Taylor Swift to Play Joni Mitchell? Title: Taylor Swift to Play Joni Mitchell? Publication: US Weekly Date: 2012.04.20 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2495 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:33:22 -0400 From: "Robert Sartorius" Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song Michael noted "Well, there's obviously a Neil Young reference, and I thought the "If you see her say hello" line was a Dylan reference, so my impression was it's more about the 70s singer-songwriter scene, but I could be wrong." I agree with those references. But the title of the song and the bulk of its content suggest the heavier emphasis is on the Queen of California. It may have something to do with 1971 ? Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:35:10 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Joni is Back? From: "Fabio Cocchi" > Hi everybody ! I was quite shocked reading today in the news ( Corriere > della > Sera, the most important italian newspaper ) that Joni is scheduled to > perform in Milan this summer!!!! > Fabio > Details, please! I searched their website but could not find mention of this. Meanwhile here is another longer article about the Girls Like Us movie/Taylor Swift from the UK Mail with a couple great photos of Joni I had not seen. http://tinyurl.com/7lq5foo "At the moment it is understood Taylor does not have an official offer, but she has been a favourite to play the Canadian for several months, and would add some much needed star power to the project. But despite the fact a script has been penned and Transformers producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura is behind the project, it has yet to be officially greenlit. However it is pencilled in to start production later this year." So: who should play Carly and Carole? And if the Transformers producer is behind it, will there be lots of explosions and CGI? Maybe Joni in a Superfolkie suit? RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:54:57 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Sweet Judy Blue Eyes... I never hear that, Will. Led me to imagine Joni phoning Judy some years later and saying "Jude, I've got another new tune for you. Have a listen to this. It's called 'Chair In The Sky'" Anita On 20 April 2012 09:09, William Waddell wrote: > ...tells BBC Breakfast that the first time she heard Both Sides Now was > over > the phone in 1967 - Joni singing it to her. > May well be common knowledge, but I'd never heard that. > WtSx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 05:20:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JbK0OoOInQ Here's a live version on Youtube. You can hear previews on Itunes and elsewhere as well. The album is out in May. There are a few versions on this on Youtube but this one sounded better than most to these ears. >________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay >To: Joni List >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:23:06 PM >Subject: Joni reference in new John Mayer song > >Hey, Joni-folks. John Mayer's new album has a song called "Queen of California." The song includes these lyrics: > > >"Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea >I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me." > >The complete lyrics, assuming the ones I found are correct are: > >Goodbye cold, goodbye rain >Goodbye sorrow, goodbye shame >I'm headed out west with my headphones on >Boarded a flight with a song in the back of my soul >And no one knows > >I just found out her ghost left town >The Queen of California is stepping down, down > >Hello beauty, hello strange >Hello wonder, what's your name? >Looking for the sun that Neil Young hung >After the gold rush of 1971 > >I just found out her ghost left town >The Queen of California is stepping down, down > >[INSTRUMENTAL] > >If you see her say, "Hello" >Just don't tell me, "I told you so" >Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea >I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me >I just can't see > >I just found out her ghost left town >The Queen of California is stepping down, down ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:31:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: RIP Levon Helm (sjc) G-d rest his soul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VShpcqd3zE&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6vOsGJvCk - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:11:18 -0500 From: "stephen clifton" Subject: Liz Smith on Joni 4.19.12 There is an article by Smith claiming that David Geffen is trying to persuade JM to do a series of concerts at his new theater in LA in the near future. It is the Huffington Post in the celebrity section. Herbie Handcock is also pushing the event which would be a re-creation of Court and Spark track by track. Thought this would be considered news... S - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #529 JMDL Digest Friday, April 20 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 529 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JbK0OoOInQ Here's a live version on Youtube. You can hear previews on Itunes and elsewhere as well. The album is out in May. There are a few versions on this on Youtube but this one sounded better than most to these ears. >________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay >To: Joni List >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:23:06 PM >Subject: Joni reference in new John Mayer song > >Hey, Joni-folks. John Mayer's new album has a song called "Queen of California." The song includes these lyrics: > > >"Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea >I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me." > >The complete lyrics, assuming the ones I found are correct are: > >Goodbye cold, goodbye rain >Goodbye sorrow, goodbye shame >I'm headed out west with my headphones on >Boarded a flight with a song in the back of my soul >And no one knows > >I just found out her ghost left town >The Queen of California is stepping down, down > >Hello beauty, hello strange >Hello wonder, what's your name? >Looking for the sun that Neil Young hung >After the gold rush of 1971 > >I just found out her ghost left town >The Queen of California is stepping down, down > >[INSTRUMENTAL] > >If you see her say, "Hello" >Just don't tell me, "I told you so" >Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea >I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me >I just can't see > >I just found out her ghost left town >The Queen of California is stepping down, down - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 04:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song Do you think the whole song is about Joni? I suppose it could be, but it never occurred to me, because I'm kinda thick! It's funny because my daughter is a huge John Mayer fan and she plays his music so often and talks about him all the time that I get kind of tired of it. (I can assure you that I do NOT talk about Joni or anyone even one-tenth as much as Sarah does about John Mayer.) So I'm aware of his health issues (she wanted to go to his next concert, which has been cancelled due to his throat problem.) I thought it might be a reference to Jennifer Anniston (sp?) whom he was dating a while ago, but I also figure his songs may be about more than one person/thing at the same time. Despite my having heard so much John Mayer that I have to sometimes tell Sarah, "Play anything but John Mayer, but if given a choice between John Mayer and Maroon 5, it has to be John, because I absolutely detest Maroon 5," I will admit that I've heard songs from his new album and I think I like it. It's too soon to tell because, once the thing has been released and she has her CD, I'm sure we'll be hearing it non-stop, and she'll be singing along with every song, and Matthew will be trying to kill her. >________________________________ > From: Jamie Zubairi Home >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: Joni List >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:30:17 AM >Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song > >I love the fact that he quotes her manager "If you see her say hello,". >It's just so Joni. > >Much Joni > >Jamie Zoob > >On 19 April 2012 04:23, Catherine McKay wrote: > >> Hey, Joni-folks. John Mayer's new album has a song called "Queen of >> California." The song includes these lyrics: >> >> >> "Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea >> I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me." >> >> The complete lyrics, assuming the ones I found are correct are: >> >> Goodbye cold, goodbye rain >> Goodbye sorrow, goodbye shame >> I'm headed out west with my headphones on >> Boarded a flight with a song in the back of my soul >> And no one knows >> >> I just found out her ghost left town >> The Queen of California is stepping down, down >> >> Hello beauty, hello strange >> Hello wonder, what's your name? >> Looking for the sun that Neil Young hung >> After the gold rush of 1971 >> >> I just found out her ghost left town >> The Queen of California is stepping down, down >> >> [INSTRUMENTAL] >> >> If you see her say, "Hello" >> Just don't tell me, "I told you so" >> Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea >> I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me >> I just can't see >> >> I just found out her ghost left town >> The Queen of California is stepping down, down >> > > > >-- >Jamie Zubairi >Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. > >Acting Agent: Pelham Associates 01273 >323 010 >Facebook >VoiceOvers >SpotLight >Twitter >Showreel > >Recently completed a successful run of Orwell's *Burmese Days *for Theatre >59E59 in New York for Aya Theatre. Currently working on *'Unbroken Line*' >a solo performance for various festivals in the UK in 2013 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song I hear that too, along with what sounds to me like a James Taylorish beginning that then blends into something a little more Allman-brothers. >________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: Jamie Zubairi Home ; Joni List >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:32:37 AM >Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song > >It almost reads to me like an update of "Goin' To California" with the >addition of her (hopefully bogus) retirement announcement. > >Bob > >NP: Days Of The New, "What's Left For Me?" >------------------------------------------------------------ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >this message is prohibited. 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The song includes these lyrics: > > > "Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea > I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me." > > The complete lyrics, assuming the ones I found are correct are: > > Goodbye cold, goodbye rain > Goodbye sorrow, goodbye shame > I'm headed out west with my headphones on > Boarded a flight with a song in the back of my soul > And no one knows > > I just found out her ghost left town > The Queen of California is stepping down, down > > Hello beauty, hello strange > Hello wonder, what's your name? > Looking for the sun that Neil Young hung > After the gold rush of 1971 > > I just found out her ghost left town > The Queen of California is stepping down, down > > [INSTRUMENTAL] > > If you see her say, "Hello" > Just don't tell me, "I told you so" > Joni wrote Blue in her house by the sea > I know there's gotta be a song that's waiting for me > I just can't see > > I just found out her ghost left town > The Queen of California is stepping down, down > - - -- Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Acting Agent: Pelham Associates 01273 323 010 Facebook VoiceOvers SpotLight Twitter Showreel Recently completed a successful run of Orwell's *Burmese Days *for Theatre 59E59 in New York for Aya Theatre. Currently working on *'Unbroken Line*' a solo performance for various festivals in the UK in 2013 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:19:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song Well, there's obviously a Neil Young reference, and I thought the "If you see her say hello" line was a Dylan reference, so my impression was it's more about the 70s singer-songwriter scene, but I could be wrong. Michael F. - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #529 ***************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, send tojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:56:54 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni reference in new John Mayer song But the title of the song and the bulk of its content suggest the heavier emphasis is on the Queen of California. It may have something to do with 1971 ? Bobsart I don't know about 1971 but in the song's context I can't see how 'the Queen of California' could refer to anybody but Joni. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #111 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe