From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #105 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, April 18 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 105 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Concert Without Joni - news article in L.A. Times [Dan Olson Subject: Re: Joni Concert Without Joni - news article in L.A. Times corrected link: http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2012/04/joni-mitchell-trying-to-get-out-of.html On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Kate Johnson wrote: > > http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2012/04/joni-mitchell-trying-to-get-out-of.htJust ran across a link to this on Twitter, dated today, but it links back > to a 2010 article so is old news on this list, but ... just in case. Kate > Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com Follow me on > Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/blondiblathers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:12:30 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: 90 minutes left NBC Springsteen in 90 minutes. We are sitting down to dinner. Life is good. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:54:35 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni Concert Without Joni - news article in L.A. Times I read the entire interview which was actually conducted with both Joni & John Kelly. Joni's long standing beef with 'Rolling Stone' about being labeled the 'Old Lady of the Year' is old hat by now. I chuckled a bit, recalling seeing Grace Slick on Roseanne Barr's short lived talk show some years ago. Grace had been talking about actively pursuing Jim Morrison to his hotel room one night and Roseanne gleefully asked her 'What other famous people have you slept with?'. Grace didn't hesitate for a heartbeat before coming out with 'All the members of my band except Marty.' Well shame on that Grace Slick for behaving the way many of the male rock stars of the day were behaving. As Joni says in the interview 'The madonna-whore thing was very prevalent, though, even in the "Summer of Love."' I don't know but I think Joni was pissed off about being singled out more than trying to slag Grace or Janis although the 'falling down drunk' remark isn't exactly flattering, I guess. But again, that was the expected behavior of the rock and roll men at that time. Excess was almost exalted in the rock heroes of the late 60s and during pretty much all of the 70s. Grace and Janis were more or less unabashed party girls who didn't seem to give a damn about the double standard. Joni didn't project that persona but she was the one dubbed 'Old Lady of the Year'. Go figure. It was a long time before I even thought about it but a song like 'Cactus Tree' probably was shocking to a lot of people back in 1968. For a woman to unashamedly sing, even in the third person, about having multiple romantic relationships was not something people were used to hearing in contemporary popular music. Nice girls didn't do that type of thing, much less sing about it. At this point I want to tip my hat to Anita for that wonderful post she wrote about being 15 and seeing Joni in concert, singing about out of wedlock sexual relationships. My feeling is that Joni has pushed many of us to think for ourselves over the years about many different things. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Dan Olson Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:56 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni Concert Without Joni - news article in L.A. Times corrected link: http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2012/04/joni-mitchell-trying-to-get-out-of.html On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Kate Johnson wrote: > > http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2012/04/joni-mitchell-trying-to-get-out-of.htJust > ran across a link to this on Twitter, dated today, but it links back > to a 2010 article so is old news on this list, but ... just in case. Kate > Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com Follow me on > Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/blondiblathers ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #105 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe