From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #50 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 050 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Taylor Swift as Joni [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Video - Taylor Swift as Joni on Ellen [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Re: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka [Vincenzo Mancini ] Taylor Swift as Joni [Michael Paz ] All I Want [Dave Blackburn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Taylor Swift as Joni Hello, You know, I could maybe, possibly picture Taylor Swift (assuming she can act) as Joni in the very early days. The one feature or quality they both have about them is that innocence. Both have that pure, innocent look. However, I'd say Joni lost that innocent look a few years into her career so I wouldn't cast Taylor Swift any further. My two cents. - -Mon To: joni@smoe.org Cc: Michael Paz ; Robert Sartorius ; Michael Sentance ; Bob.Muller@fluor.com; Dave Blackburn ; Jim ; Christina Friis-Nielsen ; "sem8@cornell.edu" ; "coyoterick@aol.com" ; "kbhla@fastmail.fm" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:00 AM Subject: Taylor Swift as Joni I see that Sheila Weller herself 'suggested' Taylor Swift in a blog interview back in May last year - and I'm wondering if this is how the rumour started in the first place - haven't seen any official confirmation - see http://bit.ly/w9jM0f Sheila wrote: >> As Joni: Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is a huge star among young audiences, and, having just moved to Beverly Hills, she is obviously working hard to turn her music stardom into a film equivalent. Like Joni, she has written famously guessed-about songs about her boyfriends. She is tall, lean, feminine, projects charisma/exhibitionism AND shy, ladylike decorousness...that was Joni in the mid-late '60s and even early 70s. Joni is the easiest to cast, in that, as complicated as she was and is (and, man!, she was and is), on first interpretation, she fills the archetype of the lovely, sensitive, long-blond-haired girl singer (Maybe because she created that archetype), so "indication" of that now-well- understood type goes a long way; the idioysyncracies can be filled in. There are more obvious Joni's than Caroles or Carlys among young actresses today. (Amanda Seyfried, Mia Wiakowska, Jennifer Lawrence, etc.) I'd like Taylor Swift -- a superstar and a lovely girl -- to embrace her Inner Joni (and what girl singer doesn;t have one?), take a ton of acting classes, and run with it, providing the highest-glow wattage for the ensemble, which will shine over the whole project. And, for those who say: But T aylor Swift's a country singer..., well, she's actually from Pennsylvania. >> Sheila also suggested Michelle Williams for Carole and Evan Rachel Wood for Carly. best to all PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:40:35 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Video - Taylor Swift as Joni on Ellen Taylor Swift was on Ellen yesterday. She changed her curly hair to straight, like Joni wore hers. Right away I thought.....hmmmm, perhaps preparing for her Joni role! Cute video of her and Zac Efron singing. Silly song lyrics......but if you regularly watch Ellen you'll get the lyrics. Cute & funny......and Ellen was mesmerized looking while listening to them sing. Ha! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8kCTPPwfpM Laura *********************NJC below. FaceBook Freebie********************* Breakfast https://www.facebook.com/QuakerOatmealSquares?sk=app_277249082332707 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:48:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Vincenzo Mancini Subject: Re: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka Let me chime in My tip for discouraging stringsB from breaking: just keep pushed the string while tuning it, especially when you tune to E the fourth one! Sometimes, it may even work ;-) VincenzoB ________________________________ Da: Susan Tierney McNamara A: Catherine McKay ; Dave Blackburn Cc: Vincenzo Mancini ; Joni Mitchell Inviato: LunedC, 20 Febbraio 2012 17:14 Oggetto: RE: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka Haha Cat, yeah thatbs not happening!!! J B From:Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:27 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; Dave Blackburn Cc: Vincenzo Mancini; Joni Mitchell Subject: Re: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka B Sue, you need a multitude of guitars in different tunings, and a guitar tech to tune them for you. Or a VG-whatever-number-they're-at-now. All you need to do is to become rich enough to be able to do that and problem solved! ;-) B > >________________________________ > >From:Susan Tierney McNamara >To: Dave Blackburn >Cc: Vincenzo Mancini ; Joni Mitchell >Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:48:43 AM >Subject: RE: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka > >My passion ... I had a challenge at the Joni Tribute this weekend (I'll post about that later today) ... but since I broke a string on stage last year, I decided to stay in one tuning DADF#AD - I sang Chelsea Morning and Night in the City and then backed my friend Amelia Burns on Both Sides Now and All I Want.B I didn't have a dulcimer handy (hahaha) so I cobbed up a quick Joniesque version of All I Want based on NRH/Turbulent Indigo type chord shapes.B I couldn't believe it worked out!B Simple but workable.B Actually the shapes remind me more of NRH.B Joni rules!! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:48:43 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka My passion ... I had a challenge at the Joni Tribute this weekend (I'll post about that later today) ... but since I broke a string on stage last year, I decided to stay in one tuning DADF#AD - I sang Chelsea Morning and Night in the City and then backed my friend Amelia Burns on Both Sides Now and All I Want. I didn't have a dulcimer handy (hahaha) so I cobbed up a quick Joniesque version of All I Want based on NRH/Turbulent Indigo type chord shapes. I couldn't believe it worked out! Simple but workable. Actually the shapes remind me more of NRH. Joni rules!! :-) Take care, Sue - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:44 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: Vincenzo Mancini; Joni Mitchell Subject: Re: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka Ever the transcriber, Sue!! On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > Hi Vincenzo - > > Sometimes I think I've seen everything that is out there on Joni, but I've never seen this video of her playing NRH and N1. The number one tuning and chord shapes sound so discordant and reminiscent of what she would be doing on Turbulent Indigo a couple of years later. I love to hear her play clean so I can hear the actual guitar parts that are so buried on the more over produced albums. Excellent!! > > Thanks, Sue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:21:27 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Taylor Swift as Joni You know gang I have to weigh in here as it is an interesting topic. They don't all it acting for nothing. Taylor is young and could surprise us all. I remember when they announced that Tom Cruise was cast as Lestat in "Interview with the Vampire" and my stomach turned. But he was superb and proved us all all wrong. Brad Pitt was also excellent in that film. Happy Gras ya'll! Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Robert Sartorius wrote: I read the comments that followed the gossip link. While I was by and large underwhelmed by the quality of those comments, I did empathize with the source of the visceral, emotional sources of them. The comment that swayed me, however, was near the end. It reminded me that Taylor Swift will draw young people to see the film. That kind of exposure could not be accomplished by casting a no-name or any-old younger actress. At this point in her career (viz, retirement), increased exposure can only help Joni's legacy, and Swift's casting can only increase that exposure. The other night, I watched a recently released VH1 special on the 100 Greatest Women in Music (over the last 20 years). For those interested, Madonna topped the list. Lady Gaga was in the top 5. Annie Lennox made the list. As did Cher. As did Taylor Swift. There were some shout-outs to earlier legends in various genres, who did not make the list. They couldn't accommodate everyone who might have been deserving. But they couldn't leave out Joni, either, so she got a nod as a folk-rock "legend" (or some such), along with Ani DiFranco and Tracy Chapman. Joni's cohort group of artists and musicians "knows", but most of the world (still) does not. I for one will be happy if Taylor Swift does the part. And I hope she does an appealing job of it - even if it does not fully capture Joni's essence. Moreover, I hope that in her promotional appearances for the film, Swift will describe her experience in researching (discovering?) Joni and her reaction to that research/discovery. Some young people might actually go out and buy Blue (and then you know there may be more). Bobsart Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:33:42 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Taylor Swift as Joni You know gang I have to weigh in here as it is an interesting topic. They don't all it acting for nothing. Taylor is young and could surprise us all. I remember when they announced that Tom Cruise was cast as Lestat in "Interview with the Vampire" and my stomach turned. But he was superb and proved us all all wrong. Brad Pitt was also excellent in that film. Happy Gras ya'll! Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Robert Sartorius wrote: I read the comments that followed the gossip link. While I was by and large underwhelmed by the quality of those comments, I did empathize with the source of the visceral, emotional sources of them. The comment that swayed me, however, was near the end. It reminded me that Taylor Swift will draw young people to see the film. That kind of exposure could not be accomplished by casting a no-name or any-old younger actress. At this point in her career (viz, retirement), increased exposure can only help Joni's legacy, and Swift's casting can only increase that exposure. The other night, I watched a recently released VH1 special on the 100 Greatest Women in Music (over the last 20 years). For those interested, Madonna topped the list. Lady Gaga was in the top 5. Annie Lennox made the list. As did Cher. As did Taylor Swift. There were some shout-outs to earlier legends in various genres, who did not make the list. They couldn't accommodate everyone who might have been deserving. But they couldn't leave out Joni, either, so she got a nod as a folk-rock "legend" (or some such), along with Ani DiFranco and Tracy Chapman. Joni's cohort group of artists and musicians "knows", but most of the world (still) does not. I for one will be happy if Taylor Swift does the part. And I hope she does an appealing job of it - even if it does not fully capture Joni's essence. Moreover, I hope that in her promotional appearances for the film, Swift will describe her experience in researching (discovering?) Joni and her reaction to that research/discovery. Some young people might actually go out and buy Blue (and then you know there may be more). Bobsart Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:18:50 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: All I Want I worked up All I Want in standard tuning, playing the exact dulcimer voicings at the intro and outro and the James Taylor guitar voicings during the body of the tune. You'll hear it on our concert DVD of Blue. Shameless plug warning... Speaking of which...we have just a few copies left of the DVD of Robin Adler & Mutts of the Planet (with Max Bennett on bass) performing the entire Blue and Court and Spark albums before a sold out crowd. It was an amazing night and the band was in top form. We will likely never do this show again. Click here to snag a copy while you still can: http://www.robinadler.com/products.html And, it may be old news now (2010!), but in case there are new listers or folks who were skimming posts for a while, we also have a rather killer CD available at the same link: Safaris to the Heart; The Songs of Joni Mitchell, or the new fangled way on iTunes. Audio clips can be heard at http://www.robinadler.com/music.html or http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet Dave On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > My passion ... I had a challenge at the Joni Tribute this weekend (I'll post about that later today) ... but since I broke a string on stage last year, I decided to stay in one tuning DADF#AD - I sang Chelsea Morning and Night in the City and then backed my friend Amelia Burns on Both Sides Now and All I Want. I didn't have a dulcimer handy (hahaha) so I cobbed up a quick Joniesque version of All I Want based on NRH/Turbulent Indigo type chord shapes. I couldn't believe it worked out! Simple but workable. Actually the shapes remind me more of NRH. Joni rules!! :-) > > Take care, Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:44 AM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: Vincenzo Mancini; Joni Mitchell > Subject: Re: Wired - Hancock tribute - Chaka > > Ever the transcriber, Sue!! > > > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > >> Hi Vincenzo - >> >> Sometimes I think I've seen everything that is out there on Joni, but I've never seen this video of her playing NRH and N1. The number one tuning and chord shapes sound so discordant and reminiscent of what she would be doing on Turbulent Indigo a couple of years later. I love to hear her play clean so I can hear the actual guitar parts that are so buried on the more over produced albums. Excellent!! >> >> Thanks, Sue ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #50 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe