From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #389 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, January 10 2012 Volume 2011 : Number 389 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Miles of Aisles - You Turn Me On I'm a Radio [Robin Adler ] Matt Weiner & Rainy Night House ["Betsy Blue" ] Miles of Aisles - You Turn Me On I'm a Radio [Corey Blake Subject: Re: Miles of Aisles - You Turn Me On I'm a Radio Beautifully said Laura. Some of my favorite musical moments have been when singing with other singers or being part of a section. I know that vocal synergism and it can be magical. It's also pretty darn cool to be in the back line just playing a conga or shaker :-) R On Jan 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Lc Stanley wrote: > Hi Robin, > > With an outstanding lead singer of the band... like you, Joni > Mitchell, Michael Jackson, or Smokey Robinson, etc. yeah. However, with bands > like CSNY or choirs where there is not a single predominant voice many times, > there is a different dynamic where not only instrumentalists but vocalists as > instruments have to listen to each other and mesh in such a way as to bring > out those around them. Vocal synergism like that in my experience is like a > power booster and very cool like the way wolves amplify each other when they > howl and come up with what just one voice could never do. > > Love, > Laura > ________________________________ > From: Robin Adler > To: T Peckham > Cc: Corey Blake > ; Gmail ; "joni@smoe.org List" > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: Miles of > Aisles - You Turn Me On I'm a Radio > > Thanks Terra for the clip. I couldn't > agree more with Robben. That's a real > pro for ya. I have the great honor of > playing with those kind of musicians in > our band. > > Robin > On Jan 8, 2012, at > 1:26 AM, T Peckham wrote: > >> From my personal experience in bands and duos, > and from observing other >> bands rehearse and soundcheck, I'd say that > whenever good musicians (those >> who not only have chops but who LISTEN to > each other) play live onstage >> regularly for an extended period of time > (whether it's a couple nights a >> week, or five nights a week, for a couple > months, or a year), arrangements >> usually evolve, often out of > improvisations, to the point where they are >> repeated from night to night and > become quite tight. Sometimes cool things >> will just happen live that get > caught on tape (betraying my age!) recorded >> off the soundboard, and a band > might listen to that and work on it, but a >> lot of times, it's being worked > out at the gig. This happens with both >> original material and covers. Of > course, some bands--Tom Petty and the >> Heartbreakers comes to mind--were > (are?) famous for going into the studio >> with the beginnings of songs and > just letting the tape run while they write >> and rewrite. But even then, those > songs are going to expand and contract >> the more times they're played live. > Just my 25 cents worth. >> >> There's a great video of Robben Ford talking about > accompanying the singer. >> I think I may have posted it here before or at > FaceBook. Here it is again >> in case I didn't, or anyone missed it the first > time around. >> I got to see him with his combo in a small club/restaurant > venue in NYC >> circa 1989. He was soooooooo cool. ;-) Wish I'd taken photos. >> >> T >> >> http://youtu.be/pG6MJuI7dO4 >> >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 8:28 PM, > Corey Blake wrote: >> >>> I was wondering about how much > it's improvised actually. You're probably >>> right that it's improvisation > when they're going back and forth, echoing >>> each other. But when they come > together and he's harmonizing off her > voice, >>> it seems way too tight to be > improvised. They're amazing musicians >>> obviously, so I guess it's not > impossible though. What do you think? Any >>> other thoughts? >>> >>> -Corey >>> >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Jamie Zubairi wrote: >>> >>>> I know what you > mean. It is one of those things where you wonder where >>> it can go to as a > melody but it is just right as a piece of improvisation. >>> She has amazing > sense of taste does Joni. >>>> >>>> Jamie Zubairi >>>> Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, >>>> >>>> On 8 Jan 2012, at 01:53, Corey Blake wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can't remember if I've said this here before but the semi-duet at the >>> end of You Turn Me On I'm A Radio on Miles of Aisles between Joni's voice >>> and Robben Ford's electric guitar is just sublime. I love it every time. > So >>> amazing. >>>>> >>>>> That is all. Just couldn't help myself. >>>>> >>>>> -Corey >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of > expressing." >> ---Louise Bourgeois > > thanks, > > Robin > ------------------------------------------------- > New CD available now! > "Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell" by Robin Adler & Mutts of > the Planet. > To listen or learn more: > http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet > To purchase: > http://www.robinadler.com/products.html thanks, Robin - ------------------------------------------------- New CD available now! "Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell" by Robin Adler & Mutts of the Planet. To listen or learn more: http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet To purchase: http://www.robinadler.com/products.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 03:26:23 -0600 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: Miles of Aisles - You Turn Me On I'm a Radio From my personal experience in bands and duos, and from observing other bands rehearse and soundcheck, I'd say that whenever good musicians (those who not only have chops but who LISTEN to each other) play live onstage regularly for an extended period of time (whether it's a couple nights a week, or five nights a week, for a couple months, or a year), arrangements usually evolve, often out of improvisations, to the point where they are repeated from night to night and become quite tight. Sometimes cool things will just happen live that get caught on tape (betraying my age!) recorded off the soundboard, and a band might listen to that and work on it, but a lot of times, it's being worked out at the gig. This happens with both original material and covers. Of course, some bands--Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers comes to mind--were (are?) famous for going into the studio with the beginnings of songs and just letting the tape run while they write and rewrite. But even then, those songs are going to expand and contract the more times they're played live. Just my 25 cents worth. There's a great video of Robben Ford talking about accompanying the singer. I think I may have posted it here before or at FaceBook. Here it is again in case I didn't, or anyone missed it the first time around. I got to see him with his combo in a small club/restaurant venue in NYC circa 1989. He was soooooooo cool. ;-) Wish I'd taken photos. T http://youtu.be/pG6MJuI7dO4 On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Corey Blake wrote: > I was wondering about how much it's improvised actually. You're probably > right that it's improvisation when they're going back and forth, echoing > each other. But when they come together and he's harmonizing off her voice, > it seems way too tight to be improvised. They're amazing musicians > obviously, so I guess it's not impossible though. What do you think? Any > other thoughts? > > -Corey > > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Jamie Zubairi wrote: > > > I know what you mean. It is one of those things where you wonder where > it can go to as a melody but it is just right as a piece of improvisation. > She has amazing sense of taste does Joni. > > > > Jamie Zubairi > > Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, > > > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 01:53, Corey Blake wrote: > > > >> I can't remember if I've said this here before but the semi-duet at the > end of You Turn Me On I'm A Radio on Miles of Aisles between Joni's voice > and Robben Ford's electric guitar is just sublime. I love it every time. So > amazing. > >> > >> That is all. Just couldn't help myself. > >> > >> -Corey > - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 09:21:45 -0800 From: Robin Adler Subject: Re: Miles of Aisles - You Turn Me On I'm a Radio Thanks Terra for the clip. I couldn't agree more with Robben. That's a real pro for ya. I have the great honor of playing with those kind of musicians in our band. Robin On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:26 AM, T Peckham wrote: > From my personal experience in bands and duos, and from observing other > bands rehearse and soundcheck, I'd say that whenever good musicians (those > who not only have chops but who LISTEN to each other) play live onstage > regularly for an extended period of time (whether it's a couple nights a > week, or five nights a week, for a couple months, or a year), arrangements > usually evolve, often out of improvisations, to the point where they are > repeated from night to night and become quite tight. Sometimes cool things > will just happen live that get caught on tape (betraying my age!) recorded > off the soundboard, and a band might listen to that and work on it, but a > lot of times, it's being worked out at the gig. This happens with both > original material and covers. Of course, some bands--Tom Petty and the > Heartbreakers comes to mind--were (are?) famous for going into the studio > with the beginnings of songs and just letting the tape run while they write > and rewrite. But even then, those songs are going to expand and contract > the more times they're played live. Just my 25 cents worth. > > There's a great video of Robben Ford talking about accompanying the singer. > I think I may have posted it here before or at FaceBook. Here it is again > in case I didn't, or anyone missed it the first time around. > I got to see him with his combo in a small club/restaurant venue in NYC > circa 1989. He was soooooooo cool. ;-) Wish I'd taken photos. > > T > > http://youtu.be/pG6MJuI7dO4 > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Corey Blake wrote: > >> I was wondering about how much it's improvised actually. You're probably >> right that it's improvisation when they're going back and forth, echoing >> each other. But when they come together and he's harmonizing off her voice, >> it seems way too tight to be improvised. They're amazing musicians >> obviously, so I guess it's not impossible though. What do you think? Any >> other thoughts? >> >> -Corey >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Jamie Zubairi wrote: >> >>> I know what you mean. It is one of those things where you wonder where >> it can go to as a melody but it is just right as a piece of improvisation. >> She has amazing sense of taste does Joni. >>> >>> Jamie Zubairi >>> Actor, Artist, VoiceOver, >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2012, at 01:53, Corey Blake wrote: >>> >>>> I can't remember if I've said this here before but the semi-duet at the >> end of You Turn Me On I'm A Radio on Miles of Aisles between Joni's voice >> and Robben Ford's electric guitar is just sublime. I love it every time. So >> amazing. >>>> >>>> That is all. Just couldn't help myself. >>>> >>>> -Corey >> > > > > -- > "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." > ---Louise Bourgeois thanks, Robin - ------------------------------------------------- New CD available now! "Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell" by Robin Adler & Mutts of the Planet. To listen or learn more: http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet To purchase: http://www.robinadler.com/products.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:21:42 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Matt Weiner & Rainy Night House RNH is quite a hypnotic song; it takes a lot of curious and unexpected musical turns. One of the benefits of Joni NOT being classically trained; she duplicated what she heard in her head and not what the rules said. I mean, right off the bat..."It was a rainy night..." that note on "night" is so bizarre and jazz-blue. I don't speak as an educated musicquarian or anything, just that it doesn't seem to go where the preceding notes are leading it. (Robin, your professional comments would be welcomed as you nail this on your CD). I love the live version on MoA; that killer bass riff was sampled on "Girl In The Picture" by Jon Notty to cool effect. Marc Copland (piano) has covered Rainy Night House on THREE different albums, and even included some piano improvisations inspired by the song on his latest record. Irma Keller recorded it in Swedish as "En Regnig Natt". And if you ask me to list my LEAST favorite Joni covers, Chad Jasmine's take on this song is right up there. Bob NP: Rickie Lee Jones, "Second Chance" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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The Cardinals - Both Sides Now 5. Scott Carpenter - Both Sides Now 6. Glennis Houston - Twisted 7. Emiko Shiratori - Woodstock 8. Steel Love World Wide - Both Sides Now 9. Lynn Martin - - Big Yellow Taxi 10. Wilson Phillips - California 11. Zia Hassan & Danica Dora - A Case Of You 12. Scott Paul Young - Both Sides Now 13. Nanaco - Woodstock 14. Sara Hamman - Big Yellow Taxi 15. Camilla & Rene - A Case Of You 16. Ben Hall - Both Sides Now 17. Mary Askins - Woodstock 18. Marie Celeste - Night In The City 19. Duf Davis & The Book Club - River 20. Duf Davis & The Book Club - Both Sides Now Bob NP: Amy Winehouse, "Our Day Will Come" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:44:40 +0000 From: "Betsy Blue" Subject: Matt Weiner & Rainy Night House On March 30th of last year, Mad Men creator Matthew Weiner was a KCRW Guest DJ. He has some very thoughtful comments, and I'd recommend listening to the whole 13-minute program. Here he talks about one of the five songs he picked to play.b, b* bI picked this song, itbs called bRainy Night House,b and itbs a song that I listen to not only because itbs so - my wife actually turned me on to this song because like everyone else in the post album days, I will just listen to the songs that I already know. I will not just put it on and play through it. And my wife - I donbt know if it was on shuffle or what else it is or if she knew it already - but said, bYou have to hear this song.b Because I was talking about something related to the emotions in this song. B And what I really got out of it besides the depth of the little stories that are being told - the story thatbs being told is - Joni Mitchell, you know, writes lyric songs and they are presented as pop songs in a way. This song has no rules. It structurally has no rules. The voices change in it. It breaks into - therebs a part in it when she talks about the choir and the choir comes on in the middle of this acoustic song. B Itbs just - wherever her imagination wants to go, she depicts it for you, she demonstrates it. And itbs so evocative to me of privacy and dealing with tragedy and also two people trying to be close to each other and, you know, like everything else youbll see that the commonality is the human voice in this thing. Her expression of her voice is something that just I always feel it - and this song in particular itbs so...itbs peculiar, is really what it is. And I love things that are just unrelated to genre and where you just hear the artist saying like, bI know this doesnbt sound like the way a song sounds.b But this is - I have to play this song.bB b, Herebs a link: tinyurl.com/3dcyvacb, And while you're at KCRW.com, Joni's '94 live set with Klein is gorgeous. Betsy NP Night Ride Home (with the infamous "private beach" story) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:53:20 -0800 From: Corey Blake Subject: Miles of Aisles - You Turn Me On I'm a Radio I can't remember if I've said this here before but the semi-duet at the end of You Turn Me On I'm A Radio on Miles of Aisles between Joni's voice and Robben Ford's electric guitar is just sublime. I love it every time. So amazing. That is all. Just couldn't help myself. - -Corey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:58:52 -0600 From: Kathy Johnson Subject: Robert Lepage, successful theatre dude, mentions Joni http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Arts_and_Entertainment/1244504193/ID=218510825 1 If you aren't familiar with Mr Lepage, here is the Canadian Encyclopedia's bio, which is a bit out of date unfortunately: http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/robert-lepage He thinks Joni doesn't "mind" being panned by critics or losing fans in order to follow her own bliss; I think she does mind, but does what she has to do anyway, as well she ought. Kate b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #389 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe