From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #369 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, December 16 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 369 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Furry [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Furry [Vincenzo ] Re: Furry [Catherine McKay ] RE: Furry [Susan Tierney McNamara ] RE: Furry [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: References in River [Lc Stanley ] Re: References in River [Ken ] Re: Furry [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Furry [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:49:11 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Furry I agree Dave, he already did an amazing version of Goodbye Porkpie Hat ... my goals beyond ... sigh! - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:47 PM To: Vincenzo Cc: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Furry I read somewhere that Joni picked the Mingus versions she did because she preferred her own vocal performances the best. That could be the sole reason. I'd love to hear the McLaughlin versions too because he's someone who'd have had no trouble embracing what she was doing harmonically and soaring. Dave On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Vincenzo wrote: > Never heard anything about but her satisfaction in defining the Jaco sessions > as audio paintings, like anybody could read... > > > > Le 16/dic/2011 C 17:17, Susan Tierney McNamara a C)crit : > >> Amen Brother b& the Hissing Demos killed me. I think I want to hear the > Mingus sessions just to see why McLaughlin was not on the released version b& > any noise on why that happened? Dueling acoustic masters? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:54:01 +0100 From: Vincenzo Subject: Re: Furry Never heard anything about but her satisfaction in defining the Jaco sessions as audio paintings, like anybody could read... Le 16/dic/2011 C 17:17, Susan Tierney McNamara a C)crit : > Amen Brother b& the Hissing Demos killed me. I think I want to hear the Mingus sessions just to see why McLaughlin was not on the released version b& any noise on why that happened? Dueling acoustic masters? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:16:11 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Furry Thanks, Vincenzo. This is a nice find. >________________________________ > From: Vincenzo Mancini >To: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:30:22 PM >Subject: Furry > >I know this is not news to some of us since I caught it some years ago before >it disappeared leaving the video of Hejira of the same session alone around... >but I never saw the segment of the discussion before the song! >Bows (and flows >of angel hair...) to siquomb1 and thanks for sharing! >Enjoy >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJyjFhCgkE&feature=autoplay&list=UUHQjvLBC1zo >UCqry3fWOi-A&lf=plcp&playnext=1 > > >Vincenzo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:41:50 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Furry These sessions are so amazing ... my wish list ... dvd/box set with these sessions and the mingus session ... can you hear me Santa!!! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Vincenzo Mancini Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:30 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Furry I know this is not news to some of us since I caught it some years ago before it disappeared leaving the video of Hejira of the same session alone around... but I never saw the segment of the discussion before the song! Bows (and flows of angel hair...) to siquomb1 and thanks for sharing! Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJyjFhCgkE&feature=autoplay&list=UUHQjvLBC1zo UCqry3fWOi-A&lf=plcp&playnext=1 Vincenzo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:17:27 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Furry Amen Brother ... the Hissing Demos killed me. I think I want to hear the Mingus sessions just to see why McLaughlin was not on the released version ... any noise on why that happened? Dueling acoustic masters? From: Vincenzo Mancini [mailto:vincmancini@yahoo.it] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 11:14 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Furry The Mingus sessions: honey for greedy bears! Didn't we read lately about Jaco being responsible for replacing Jeremy Lubbock with Herbie Hancock? And think about Jaco replaced by Stanley Clarke or Eddie Gomez! John McLaughlin doubling her guitar? I am surely forgetting somebody else Not that I have ever been unhappy with a single note of the official sessions... And yet, could you still speak after your first listening to the Hissing's demos? Da: Susan Tierney McNamara A: Vincenzo Mancini ; "joni@smoe.org" Inviato: Venerdl 16 Dicembre 2011 15:41 Oggetto: RE: Furry These sessions are so amazing ... my wish list ... dvd/box set with these sessions and the mingus session ... can you hear me Santa!!! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Vincenzo Mancini Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:30 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Furry I know this is not news to some of us since I caught it some years ago before it disappeared leaving the video of Hejira of the same session alone around... but I never saw the segment of the discussion before the song! Bows (and flows of angel hair...) to siquomb1 and thanks for sharing! Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJyjFhCgkE&feature=autoplay&list=UUHQjvLBC1zo UCqry3fWOi-A&lf=plcp&playnext=1 Vincenzo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:06:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Re: References in River Very cool! Oh I wish I had a river I could snow kite away on! ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Lc Stanley ; Ken ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:45 AM Subject: Re: References in River The St Lawrence also freezes in places as well. I googled for images and found something that looks like a lot of fun: snow-kiting on the frozen St Lawrence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RklCo-sAZc >________________________________ > From: Lc Stanley >To: Ken ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:00:57 AM >Subject: Re: References in River > >Howdy, > >I saw the Missouri River freeze when I lived in Bellevue, Nebraska. >It flows so fast that it froze in huge chunks some of which kept moving >slowly and pushed up like icebergs... you couldn't skate on it unless you were >like the people on that Japanese obstacle course show. Last year when I flew >over Lake Michigan in February, a lot of it was frozen like a big mosaic art >picture. Very beautiful. > >Love, >Laura > > >________________________________ >From: Ken >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Friday, December 16, >2011 7:26 AM >Subject: Re: References in River > >Even the mighty Hudson River >by NYC has frozen over in days gone by; I've seen >photos of cars and trucks >driving across it in the past. And, yes! Those >god-awful decorations are not >only a thing of the past but still exist in some >places... seems they stand up >remarkably well if taken care of and stored >properly. > > > Kenny B > > >From: >Betsy Blue >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:11 PM >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Lawn reindeer > >First, were these god-awful outdoor decorations really >a thing in the 60s? >It doesn't seem possible. (No offense to any Griswalds on >the list. >Christmas happens to be sparkling out on my neighbor's lawn--and >roof.) > >Second, can a river really freeze? There's some skating on frozen >streams in >Circle Game, so I must conclude this is not a metaphor. Forgive the >ignorance and Cali-centricity. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:26:35 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Subject: Re: References in River Even the mighty Hudson River by NYC has frozen over in days gone by; I've seen photos of cars and trucks driving across it in the past. And, yes! Those god-awful decorations are not only a thing of the past but still exist in some places... seems they stand up remarkably well if taken care of and stored properly. Kenny B From: Betsy Blue Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:11 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Lawn reindeer First, were these god-awful outdoor decorations really a thing in the 60s? It doesn't seem possible. (No offense to any Griswalds on the list. Christmas happens to be sparkling out on my neighbor's lawn--and roof.) Second, can a river really freeze? There's some skating on frozen streams in Circle Game, so I must conclude this is not a metaphor. Forgive the ignorance and Cali-centricity. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:46:34 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Furry I read somewhere that Joni picked the Mingus versions she did because she preferred her own vocal performances the best. That could be the sole reason. I'd love to hear the McLaughlin versions too because he's someone who'd have had no trouble embracing what she was doing harmonically and soaring. Dave On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Vincenzo wrote: > Never heard anything about but her satisfaction in defining the Jaco sessions > as audio paintings, like anybody could read... > > > > Le 16/dic/2011 C 17:17, Susan Tierney McNamara a C)crit : > >> Amen Brother b& the Hissing Demos killed me. I think I want to hear the > Mingus sessions just to see why McLaughlin was not on the released version b& > any noise on why that happened? Dueling acoustic masters? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:40:48 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Furry It just kills me that all this stuff is out there stashed away. Granted, we've got a LOT of stuff that we're not supposed to have, but there's a treasure chest in the vaults that would be great to hear. I was just listening to Bob Dylan's Bootleg #8 with unreleased tracks, alternate recordings, etc. Great stuff and I just wish Joni would consent to treat her fans in a similar manner. Bob NP: Kurt Vile, "In My Time" ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #369 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe