From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #352 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, December 3 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 352 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) [Lieve Reckers ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 02:52:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) Jim, many thanks for this research. I really hope we can go for one of those two options (I would personally prefer yahoo because I already have an account with them, but either would do). I can certainly say now that if we went for some sort of forum, I would end up not using it. Anything other than email format is just too much of a demand of my time and would fall by the way side, however good my intentions might be. Lieve >________________________________ > From: Jim >To: Paul Castle ; "joni@smoe.org" >Cc: "FMYFL@aol.com" ; Catherine McKay ; Moni Kellermann ; Michael Flaherty ; Jim L'Hommedieu ; "lesirvin@gmail.com" >Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011, 17:06 >Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL (Google vs Yahoo) > >From a lurker who has never used Google groups but am very familiar with yahoo >groups.B I just Googled the pros and cons of Yahoo Groups vs Google Groups >and will list below what I found.B It seems if we use the site strictly for >the Group's eMail features, Google might be better because the ads are less >intrusive but to make it a private Google group, everyone would have to create >a Google account.B Where as you don't have to have a Yahoo ID/Account to get >the Yahoo group's emails (though you do need a yahoo id to use the features on >the Yahoo group website).B > > >On the flip side, as for the Group's website, >Yahoo's Group offers more bells and whistles and much more storage for files >and photos and seems to be managed much easier.B But it is important to note >that yahoo does not attach message attachments to messages on the Group's site >even though attachments are delivered via the eMails whereas Google keeps the >file attachments on the messages posted on the group site. > >And lastly, for >those that detest NJC messages, you can always choose "no group eMails" and >periodically go to the the group's website to read the "only Joni" messages >whenever you please if you are not comfortable with adding a "NJC" eMail >filter to your eMail options. > > >Here are the Google vs Yahoo pros and cons >that came up on my google search > >YAHOO PROS >- generally more reliable >- can >post polls >- member can post to the group calendar >- 200 MB available for >group storage (100 MB for attachments >and photos, and another 100 MB for >files). >- Members can post links of interest on the group site >- Group Owner >can designate multiple group managers while limiting >certain powers to >managers (ie. Can allow several people to approve new group >members or delete >inappropriate posts or spam but not allow that manager to delete >members or >delete the entire group which is very important). >- can subscribe to the >group's eMail features without a yahoo ID (but not have access to the actual >Group website features) > >B >YAHOO CONS >- big flashy banner ads >- message >attachments are not stored on the group site (but are delivered via eMail b >yahoo uses Norton to scan attachments) >- ads in posts/emails/advert - there >is no escaping the adverts on yahoo >- 750kB message size limit >- >autoresponder > >GOOGLE PROS >- Easier to use >- message attachments stored on >the group's site with unlimited storage space >- 5MB message size limit >- >unobtrusive text adverts > >GOOGLE CONS >- Everybody needs a google account, or >the group must be public >- Google discontinued file storage in Jan. of 2011 >- >buggy system >- impossible to moderate posts with attachments or quoted text - >in fact the >moderation queue is the worst feature of google groups. very >little works as it >should, very little control, no ability to edit a post >before approval, not >even your own. >- threads close automatically after 60 >days >- autoresponder >- servers can be unresponsive and timeout >- some >features don't work with opera browser (page editing, welcome message >editing) >- Group owners cannot designate certain powers to managers - it's all or >nothing >- message grouping doesn't always work as it should. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 06:40:36 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_Joni=E2=80=99s_House_i?= =?UTF-8?Q?s_a_Very,_Very,_Very,_Fine_House?= Title: Jonibs House is a Very, Very, Very, Fine House Publication: Chelsea Girl Vintage Date: 2011.06.16 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2453 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:32:39 -0500 From: Rozanne Gates Subject: Joni fest tonight in Shelton, CT Suzanne Sheridan will be singing Joni's beloved music (including "Blue") tonight at 7 PM at the Huntington Street Cafi (http://www.huntingtonstreetcafe.com), 90 Huntington Road in Shelton, CT. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 06:18:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni on R Stone Greatest Guitarists List And another Joni mention in their review of James Blake's ACOY cover. I'm happy to be reading my RS's again after a 3-month break (you can't find Western mags in China) and even happier to see Joni cover coverage. Bob NP: Billie Holiday, "My Man" ________________________________ From: Randy Remote To: Joni Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Joni on R Stone Greatest Guitarists List Latest issue. I think Bonnie Raitt is the only other female to make the list. Tribute text by David Crosby. http://tinyurl.com/cun25tb http://tinyurl.com/7f2rsyw ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:25:53 -0500 From: Ken Evans Subject: Muppets Ever notice how the lady singer (who I don't remember hearing speak) in Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem looks just like Joni? It's not just the long straight blond hair, but she's got Joni's mouth and high cheekbones too. Pretty cool, and funny how I've seen them for 30+ years and just noticed. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #352 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe