From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #346 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 29 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 346 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The State of the JMDL [Paul Castle ] Anna begins [Sharon Watkins ] [none] [rza666odb@aol.com] RE: The State of the JMDL [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: The State of the JMDL [Michael Flaherty ] Re: New Mutts video. All JC [Michael Paz ] Re: Did Joni ever see Breakfast at Tiffany's? [Catherine McKay ] Re: The State of the JMDL [Lori Fye ] Re: Christmas Playlist [Ken ] Re: The State of the JMDL [Lori Fye ] Re: Christmas Playlist [gerard mclaughlin ] Synchronicity Joni Coffeetime NYC [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: The State of the JMDL [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Did Joni ever see Breakfast at Tiffany's? [Mags ] Re: The State of the JMDL [Lori Fye ] Re: state of the list [runechilde@gmail.com] JMDL Digest V2011 #634 [Rozanne Gates ] Re: Anna Begins ["Anna T. Raner" ] Re: The State of the JMDL [Catherine McKay ] State of the JMDL by Les [Ken ] Re: Song for Sharon [Mags ] Suzanne Sings Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen [Rozanne Gates Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL Catherine wrote: > If it came to having to do away with smoe, and we were to vote, my vote would > be for google groups. Mine too. I'm currently subscribed to a couple of Google groups where I'm set up to receive a daily email which shows links + first few lines of active threads - readers can either go to the site to read everything or drop in and contribute to threads of personal interest. No reason why we shouldn't continue with the NJC protocol. I don't know if anyone else has had the same experience but I've tried to 'unsubscribe' from the Joni digest a couple of times but each time it's failed - still getting the one-post digests (which I've now filtered out of my inbox into a folder). best to all PaulC PS NJC Christmas song suggestion - Mindy Smith & Thad Cockrell - I Know The Reason - http://youtu.be/pJnaFODOp4k ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:22:17 -0600 From: Sharon Watkins Subject: Anna begins Great to hear from you Anna. Look forward to more posts from you! Sharon Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 06:30:44 -0500 (EST) From: rza666odb@aol.com Subject: [none] http://virginiafishingonline.com/modules/mod_wdbanners/stars.php?html129 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:19:36 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: The State of the JMDL Hi Les and gang, I was Joni-only digest for a long time and once I started going to Jonifests again I realized I was missing out, so I joined "live" all posts and also digest. I am a big fan of filtering so I am OK with wherever we go, as long as we still have the great conversation. Thanks for all your hard work, Les!!! Take care, Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:29 PM To: Joni List Subject: The State of the JMDL Joniphiles - Welcome to the ever-so-occasional State of the JMDL Meeting. Please silence your cell phones. As the digest people know, we have been having ongoing problems with the list via our long-time provider Smoe. Smoe is free, but it also has an absentee landlord and therefore is "as is". The problems will most likely never be resolved. The list uses the "Majordomo" software system, written 17+ years ago (ancient in computer terms...) and pretty much abandoned by its creators in favor of other systems like YahooGroups. Do we need to switch to another provider? Here are 3 options as I see them: 1) Have a volunteer step forward who is willing/able to install the Majordomo software on their own server and host the list for free. 2) Switch to YahooGroups for free. Free, BUT there will NO LONGER BE A "JONI-ONLY" option as Yahoo offers no way to do this (unless someone has information I don't). 3) Find another Majordomo system to host. My research indicates a $40+/- monthly fee for this. Yikes. The current list census is as follows: 110 members of "Live" Joni 652 members of Joni-digest 44 members of Only-Joni 218 members of Only-Joni digest So, 25% of the current members - the "only" people - will be inconvenienced by switching to YahooGroups. On the other hand, most email systems (Outlook, Windows Mail, Gmail, Hotmail, etc, etc...) offer a filtering option in which one can send single NJC messages directly to the trash. Still, the Only-Joni Digest people (21% of our population) are left without a real solution. There is no easy answer to the current problem if you are among the 21%. I'll appreciate your thoughtful discussion/ideas (public and/or private) in the next week or so and will make a decision at that point. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL Yes, I understand that Joni is not involved. Re-reading my post numerous times I'm not sure how I could have given the impression that. I thought otherwise. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:45:59 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: New Mutts video. All JC Such a beautiful version. Congrats Robin and Mutts and recording and mix sounds amazing Dave. Strings are great. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: Here's another video from set one (Blue) of the Nov 6th show. The set two (C&S) vids are coming soon. I'm immensely proud of this band and how all the musicians have engaged in Joni's music with such a righteous passion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UoHRwju6aI&feature=share ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 06:12:29 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Did Joni ever see Breakfast at Tiffany's? That wouldn't surprise me one bit. I think Joni is a big movie fan. Her song "Hana" is based on a movie that was based on a book; likewise, "Night of the Iguana" is based on the movie that was based on the Tennessee Williams play that was, in turn, based on his own short story. I'm sure there are other obvious instances like that, but so many of her songs are also very cinematic and the descriptions so detailed that you can see what she's talking about ("Edith and the Kingpin" is the example that springs immediately to mind." And then again there's "In France..." where she talks about "thrilling to the Brando-like things that he said," and the whole James Dean/Rebel without a cause thing going on in the "Shadows and Light" film/DVD. http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1666&from=search I just stumbled across something on jonimitchell.com that I didn't know was there - people commenting on the website. If the link below works well, you will find comments from two people about "The Beat of Black Wings" being based on "The Looking-Glass War." The stories we've heard Joni say about it is that she really did meet a guy named Kyle at a military base where she performed. (The first comment is from Nov/09 and the second from April/11 - that's an 18-month gap, so I don't see the possibility of commenting on the website as a replacement for smoe, that's for sure!) http://jonimitchell.com/music/album.cfm?id=16.0&from=search >________________________________ > From: Mark >To: joni >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:54:52 AM >Subject: Did Joni ever see Breakfast at Tiffany's? > >I just watched it. During the party sequence there's a woman (although she's no beauty) looking into a mirror laughing hysterically. A few seconds later she's crying and her eye paint's running down. Walking around the 5 and 10 looking for something to shoplift, Audrey Hepburn puts a lampshade on her head. In one scene she's sitting in a window, strumming a guitar. And in the climactic scene of the movie, there's a big yellow taxi and a lost cat. Joni would have been around 17 when the movie came out in 1961. > >Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL >Here's another idea. Chuck the email subscription metaphor and go to a forum metaphor. [...] I don't know if those bands have to pay for their forums or not. Yes, this would be better, but I didn't suggest it because these forums are not free, and you have to do your own maintenance. I think it's safe to say that Joni would not be interested in setting this up herself, so it would all (cost and work) have to come from list members. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:55:28 -0600 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL I don't know much about these things, but how much does a server cost? Lori in Tioga ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Subject: Re: Christmas Playlist Would you like some non-Joni selections? Kenny B Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 04:34:50 +0000 From: "Betsy Blue" Subject: Morbid Little Christmas Songs I'm making a Christmas playlist. What's missing? River Chinese Cafe Facelift Chelsea Morning Barangrill Don't Interrupt the Sorrow Gift of the Magi I appreciate the help! Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:02:45 -0600 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL > I think > it's safe to say that Joni would not be interested in setting this up herself, > so it would all (cost and work) have to come from list members. Michael, you do realize that's what is currently happening, yes? Joni has little if anything to do with www.jonimitchell.com or the JMDL. It's all on Les (and those of us who can contribute $$ from time to time to help pay the bills). Lori in Tioga ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:37:39 +0000 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Re: Christmas Playlist laura nyro. Christmas in my soul. At least I think thats the name of it...From Christmas and the Beads of Sweat. If you like her it's a good one. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Mark wrote: > Hi Betsy, > > Not sure if you're a Carly Simon fan but her 'The Night Before Christmas' > has become a favorite of mine. > > Mark in Seattle > > -----Original Message----- From: Betsy Blue > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 8:56 PM > To: Ken ; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Christmas Playlist > > > Kenny, > Some NJC would be cool, too. Personally, Hard Candy Christmas, 2000 Miles, > and > Skating (from Peanuts) are right up there with River. > > Betsy > NP Big Yellow Taxi, Green Day > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:57:19 > To: ; > Subject: Re: Christmas Playlist > > > Would you like some non-Joni selections? > > > Kenny B > > > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 04:34:50 +0000 > From: "Betsy Blue" > Subject: Morbid Little Christmas Songs > > I'm making a Christmas playlist. What's missing? > > River > Chinese Cafe > Facelift > Chelsea Morning > Barangrill > Don't Interrupt the Sorrow > Gift of the Magi > > I appreciate the help! > Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:51:33 -0500 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Synchronicity Joni Coffeetime NYC Well, here I am in New York and have done some sightseeing on our day off from the show. I pop in to Sbux on 3rd Ave I think. Just as I take my seat someone singing River plays on their piped music. Much Joni Joy to all Jamie Zubairi Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:32:24 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL Am 27.11.2011 18:16, Wie Michael Flaherty so vortrefflich formulierte: >> Here's another idea. Chuck the email subscription metaphor and go to a > forum metaphor. [...] > I don't know if those bands have to pay for their > forums or not. > > > > > Yes, this would be better, but I didn't suggest it because > these forums are not free, and you have to do your own maintenance. > > I think > it's safe to say that Joni would not be interested in setting this up herself, > so it would all (cost and work) have to come from list members. > > Michael F. > What about Google Groups? You can use it via your browser or mobile device or your mail program, it can store files and it can be restricted, i.e. non-public and not indexed by search engines. http://www.google.com/intl/en/googlegroups/tour3/index.html moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 07:20:23 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: Did Joni ever see Breakfast at Tiffany's? Mark, I have seen the movie, but only once. I will say that I found it to be one strange little movie. Love your posts, m'deara. Joni was obviously under the influence of this film and the sights therein ;) xo Mags I just watched it. During the party sequence there's a woman (although she's no beauty) looking into a mirror laughing hysterically. A few seconds later she's crying and her eye paint's running down. Walking around the 5 and 10 looking for something to shoplift, Audrey Hepburn puts a lampshade on her head. In one scene she's sitting in a window, strumming a guitar. And in the climactic scene of the movie, there's a big yellow taxi and a lost cat. Joni would have been around 17 when the movie came out in 1961. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:33:57 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Subject: Re: Christmas Playlist (non-Joni tunes) Some very good suggestions going around for non-Joni Christmas music. I've always been an Argent fan (the group and Rod Argent/Russ Ballard solo); there's a great cut on their 1973 Argent album (In Deep) called, "Christmas for the Free." It's not exactly upbeat (but, then again, neither is "River") but I love it; available on iTunes in case you'd like to hear it before buying. There's also a album called "A Key West Christmas" by various artists with some cool stuff on it (I like about half) but it seems there are two versions (one with 12 songs, another with 15 ?) I had the one with 15. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:53:21 -0600 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL > Yes, I understand that Joni is not involved. Re-reading my post numerous times > I'm not sure how I could have given the impression that. I thought otherwise. My bad, Michael. I read it differently, but it's been a long, and only partly sunny, Sunday. : ) Lori, temporarily in Crosby, ND ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:28:50 +0000 From: runechilde@gmail.com Subject: Re: state of the list I am happy to go to yahoo or whover and get a digest. Just let me know where to go to Lucy in the UK Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:19:51 To: Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #633 JMDL Digest Monday, November 28 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 633 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- RE: The State of the JMDL [Susan Tierney McNamara ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:19:36 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: The State of the JMDL Hi Les and gang, I was Joni-only digest for a long time and once I started going to Jonifests again I realized I was missing out, so I joined "live" all posts and also digest. I am a big fan of filtering so I am OK with wherever we go, as long as we still have the great conversation. Thanks for all your hard work, Les!!! Take care, Sue - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:29 PM To: Joni List Subject: The State of the JMDL Joniphiles - Welcome to the ever-so-occasional State of the JMDL Meeting. Please silence your cell phones. As the digest people know, we have been having ongoing problems with the list via our long-time provider Smoe. Smoe is free, but it also has an absentee landlord and therefore is "as is". The problems will most likely never be resolved. The list uses the "Majordomo" software system, written 17+ years ago (ancient in computer terms...) and pretty much abandoned by its creators in favor of other systems like YahooGroups. Do we need to switch to another provider? Here are 3 options as I see them: 1) Have a volunteer step forward who is willing/able to install the Majordomo software on their own server and host the list for free. 2) Switch to YahooGroups for free. Free, BUT there will NO LONGER BE A "JONI-ONLY" option as Yahoo offers no way to do this (unless someone has information I don't). 3) Find another Majordomo system to host. My research indicates a $40+/- monthly fee for this. Yikes. The current list census is as follows: 110 members of "Live" Joni 652 members of Joni-digest 44 members of Only-Joni 218 members of Only-Joni digest So, 25% of the current members - the "only" people - will be inconvenienced by switching to YahooGroups. On the other hand, most email systems (Outlook, Windows Mail, Gmail, Hotmail, etc, etc...) offer a filtering option in which one can send single NJC messages directly to the trash. Still, the Only-Joni Digest people (21% of our population) are left without a real solution. There is no easy answer to the current problem if you are among the 21%. I'll appreciate your thoughtful discussion/ideas (public and/or private) in the next week or so and will make a decision at that point. Thanks, Les - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #633 ***************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:44:56 -0500 From: Rozanne Gates Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #634 Joni Lovers, Is anyone on this list in the Connecticut area? Rozanne Gates Westport, CT on 11/28/11 9:29 AM, JMDL Digest at owner-joni-digest@smoe.org wrote: > > JMDL Digest Monday, November 28 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 634 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: state of the list [runechilde@gmail.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:28:50 +0000 > From: runechilde@gmail.com > Subject: Re: state of the list > > I am happy to go to yahoo or whover and get a digest. Just let me know where > to go to > > Lucy in the UK > Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) > Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:19:51 > To: > Reply-To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #633 > > > JMDL Digest Monday, November 28 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 633 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > - -------- > RE: The State of the JMDL [Susan Tierney McNamara ] > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:19:36 +0000 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: RE: The State of the JMDL > > Hi Les and gang, > > I was Joni-only digest for a long time and once I started going to Jonifests > again I realized I was missing out, so I joined "live" all posts and also > digest. I am a big fan of filtering so I am OK with wherever we go, as long > as we still have the great conversation. > > Thanks for all your hard work, Les!!! > > Take care, Sue > > - - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:29 PM > To: Joni List > Subject: The State of the JMDL > > Joniphiles - > > Welcome to the ever-so-occasional State of the JMDL Meeting. Please > silence your cell phones. > > As the digest people know, we have been having ongoing problems with the > list via our long-time provider Smoe. Smoe is free, but it also has an > absentee landlord and therefore is "as is". The problems will most > likely never be resolved. The list uses the "Majordomo" software > system, written 17+ years ago (ancient in computer terms...) and pretty > much abandoned by its creators in favor of other systems like YahooGroups. > > Do we need to switch to another provider? Here are 3 options as I see them: > > 1) Have a volunteer step forward who is willing/able to install the > Majordomo software on their own server and host the list for free. > 2) Switch to YahooGroups for free. Free, BUT there will NO LONGER BE A > "JONI-ONLY" option as Yahoo offers no way to do this (unless someone has > information I don't). > 3) Find another Majordomo system to host. My research indicates a > $40+/- monthly fee for this. Yikes. > > The current list census is as follows: > 110 members of "Live" Joni > 652 members of Joni-digest > 44 members of Only-Joni > 218 members of Only-Joni digest > > So, 25% of the current members - the "only" people - will be > inconvenienced by switching to YahooGroups. On the other hand, most > email systems (Outlook, Windows Mail, Gmail, Hotmail, etc, etc...) offer > a filtering option in which one can send single NJC messages directly to > the trash. Still, the Only-Joni Digest people (21% of our population) > are left without a real solution. There is no easy answer to the > current problem if you are among the 21%. > > I'll appreciate your thoughtful discussion/ideas (public and/or private) > in the next week or so and will make a decision at that point. > > Thanks, > Les > > - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #633 > ***************************** > > - ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > - ------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #634 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:14:18 -0800 From: "Anna T. Raner" Subject: Re: Anna Begins It was 1969 or 1970. I first became familiar with Joni through my boyfriend, Page. He had a collection of Warner Bros. sampler LP's. He suggested I check her out. We listened to "Nathan La Franeer," I think, although it could have been "Fiddle And The Drum." I knew that she was not a casual listen. Had to get the lyrics. Had to study her poetry and her music. Been hooked ever since. Sent from my iPad On Nov 25, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > > Sounds good to me. BTW, I have never posted here before. > > > Glad you did! Hello Anna...now that you've outed yourself, tell us a Joni story (the first album you bought, concerts, etc). > > Welcome. > > Bob > > NP: Robin, "To Hear More" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:05:23 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL If it came to having to do away with smoe, and we were to vote, my vote would be for google groups. Jim, I know the kind of message boards you're talking about. Just from my own point of view - and others will and should differ - I find those kinds of boards difficult to deal with. They're fine if you want to ask a simple question, or to vote on your favourite song/album/etc but, if you're going to have any kind of dialogue, I find them difficult. As well, I find it difficult to get really interested in a topic in that particular format. Maybe it's just me and maybe I'm just too used to smoe's way of working. People always resist change at first but then, they either adapt or, um, die - OK maybe not that drastic - maybe they just go away. There may be others who prefer that sort of thing. At least, with a group (whether it's yahoo, google or something else that might exist), you have the option of either going to the group website to get your info, or else having emails sent to you. I'm assu >________________________________ > From: Moni Kellermann >To: Michael Flaherty >Cc: Jim L'Hommedieu ; "lesirvin@gmail.com" ; JMDL >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:32:24 PM >Subject: Re: The State of the JMDL > >Am 27.11.2011 18:16, Wie Michael Flaherty so vortrefflich formulierte: >>> Here's another idea. Chuck the email subscription metaphor and go to a >> forum metaphor. [...] >> I don't know if those bands have to pay for their >> forums or not. >> >> >> >> >> Yes, this would be better, but I didn't suggest it because >> these forums are not free, and you have to do your own maintenance. >> >> I think >> it's safe to say that Joni would not be interested in setting this up herself, >> so it would all (cost and work) have to come from list members. >> >> Michael F. >> > > >What about Google Groups? You can use it via your browser or mobile >device or your mail program, it can store files and it can be >restricted, i.e. non-public and not indexed by search engines. > >http://www.google.com/intl/en/googlegroups/tour3/index.html > >moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:50:46 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Subject: State of the JMDL by Les Regarding our beloved JMDL: For what it's worth, I'm one of those 652 members of Joni Digest and, admittedly, I'm not a regular poster. I also get overwhelmed at times when I open up a mailing and find twenty or more posts 'cause I know it will take me a very long time to read them all (so I often skim the subjects and read only what I think I'll be interested in); but that's just me. On the other hand, I enjoy many of the messages with NJC because they're often music-related and pertaining to some other subject I enjoy learning about (the exception being long political rants or other social causes that don't interest me). In any case, I thank Les for his dedication and tireless efforts to keep the JMDL going in the bast way possible (although I don't have a clue about the way these things work). Kenny B Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:28:55 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: The State of the JMDL Joniphiles - Welcome to the ever-so-occasional State of the JMDL Meeting. Please silence your cell phones. As the digest people know, we have been having ongoing problems with the list via our long-time provider Smoe. Smoe is free, but it also has an absentee landlord and therefore is "as is". The problems will most likely never be resolved. The list uses the "Majordomo" software system, written 17+ years ago (ancient in computer terms...) and pretty much abandoned by its creators in favor of other systems like YahooGroups. Do we need to switch to another provider? Here are 3 options as I see them: 1) Have a volunteer step forward who is willing/able to install the Majordomo software on their own server and host the list for free. 2) Switch to YahooGroups for free. Free, BUT there will NO LONGER BE A "JONI-ONLY" option as Yahoo offers no way to do this (unless someone has information I don't). 3) Find another Majordomo system to host. My research indicates a $40+/- monthly fee for this. Yikes. The current list census is as follows: 110 members of "Live" Joni 652 members of Joni-digest 44 members of Only-Joni 218 members of Only-Joni digest So, 25% of the current members - the "only" people - will be inconvenienced by switching to YahooGroups. On the other hand, most email systems (Outlook, Windows Mail, Gmail, Hotmail, etc, etc...) offer a filtering option in which one can send single NJC messages directly to the trash. Still, the Only-Joni Digest people (21% of our population) are left without a real solution. There is no easy answer to the current problem if you are among the 21%. I'll appreciate your thoughtful discussion/ideas (public and/or private) in the next week or so and will make a decision at that point. Thanks, Les - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:29:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: Song for Sharon John, I don't know if this is true or not. I'll stand aside and let Ms. Peckham speak for herself . Mags. ________________________________ From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" To: northern.muse@gmail.com Cc: anima_rising@yahoo.ca; gerard mclaughlin ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 6:30:03 PM Subject: Re: Song for Sharon Mr Peckham, That is illuminating. Mt daughter was born in 1990 I would have been 34, Joni would be well over 40. Was she trying throughout the Klein relationship? John >----Original Message---- >From: northern. muse@gmail.com >Date: 25/11/2011 21:52 >To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >Cc: , "gerard mclaughlin", "joni@smoe.org" >Subj: Re: Song for Sharon > >On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:19 PM, johnnybgoode@lineone.net < >johnnybgoode@lineone.net> wrote: > >> What I see as the elephant in the room is did she make a >> conscious choice not to be a mother again, once money was no object? >> > > >> >> Assuming you're talking about Joni, she and second husband Larry Klein >> suffered a miscarriage in, I believe, 1990. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:30:01 -0500 (EST) From: Rozanne Gates Subject: Suzanne Sings Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen Having trouble viewing this email? 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