From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #329 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, November 17 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 329 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: odd Joni dream [Michael Flaherty ] SMOE [Sharon Watkins ] Some of Joni's solo acoustic shows ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: SMOE [Catherine McKay ] Re: odd Joni dream [gerard mclaughlin ] Can the digest be fixed? [Ken Evans ] Re: JMDL Digest V2011 #522 ["Ava Rosenblum" ] JMDL digest problems [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] SMOE [David Marine ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:41:36 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: odd Joni dream Thanks for sharing that, Rob. It was a lot of fun! That's the kind of dream that makes waking mildly disappointing. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:20:29 -0600 From: Sharon Watkins Subject: SMOE I vote for the present format; changing may just bring it's own set of problems. I delete the emails after I've read them, saving only the ones in which I have a particular interest. Sharon Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:36:42 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Some of Joni's solo acoustic shows Attention first time collectors and veterans... Several people are burning a solo acoustic show from March 02, 1972 in Philadelphia, PA. This was after "Blue" but before "For The Roses" was released. It's Joni in a solo-acoustic setting playing piano, guitar and dulcimer. It's on 2 CDs and includes Jackson Browne's solo-acoustic opening set. We're willing to burn this 2 CD-R set for anyone in the Netherlands, UK, Canada, or USA who mails in the blanks. No money will change hands. Sorry, but I've promised not to rip this show to mp3s. For details, write to me off list. Thanks goes out to simon for this fine show. There are some good stories like the one about Carey. - ---------------------- I'm also burning another show... Joni with James Taylor playing the BBC on Oct 29, 1970. This show is on one CD and includes my favorite performances (ever) of "California" and "Steamroller Blues". Send 3 blanks to get both shows. Thanks to simon for this show too. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:24:00 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Joni mention I hadnbt seen anyone post about this so here goes: I love Queen Latifah and I was watching one of her films today called bJust Wright.b About 15 minutes into the film, Queen has an encounter with a professional basketball player in a gas station, hebs on the phone talking and trying to figure out how to open his gas tank and she helps him out. I canbt quote the exact script but it goes something like this... her bI couldnbt help but notice you have a Joni Mitchell CD on your passenger seatb him bYes, I love jazzb her bwho was that she did the awesome jazz CD with... oh yeah, Mingusb him byes, that was great!b Later on in the film he is sitting in a music room playing piano and there is art on the walls. Just behind where hebs sitting I caught a small piece of a sign which had something on it that looked suspiciously like Joni Mitchell. Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: SMOE I agree with Dan, including the bit about yahoo taking over with its annoying logos and ads, which could be annoying if we went to yahoo groups. (With yahoo groups, you do have the option of either going into the group when you choose, or else having it email you the posts as they appear - at least, that's how it worked when I was on a yahoo group a few years ago.) I once tried digest, but found it difficult to sort through what I wanted to read and what I wasn't interested in, and find that individual posts are actually much easier to deal with, even if it may seem daunting at first. I also get the njc stuff and I happen to like it, but realize that tastes differ. As long as people remember (at least most of the time) to put njc in the subject line for those that have no Joni-content, that should make things easier. If smoe isn't being maintained by anyone, the whole thing could end up breaking down in time, (I'm impressed that it keeps on going without anyone maintaining it) but I'm kind of of the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mind-set (recognizing that, for those on digest, it's already broke.) Yahoo groups is OK, but not really my personal cuppa tea (recognizing once again that others may have a different opinion and not wanting to foist mine on anyone.) I think the problem with smoe at present is only happening to those on digest, whether it's jc or njc (and am not sure if now even the njc folks are receiving the njc stuff against their wills.) I think the obnoxious Bs that show up have to do with people using rich text to respond, which is then converted to plain text, or something like that. >________________________________ >From: Dan Olson >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:13:41 PM >Subject: Re: SMOE > >I'm not really sure what the issue is, not being a digest receiver; But I >would like to state that, having once been a digest receiver, but then >having switched over to the "every email as it's sent" approach, I would >highly recommend the latter. Yes, it's sometimes a lot of emails, but the >subject line is meaningful, so it's easy to choose the ones I want to >read. I find it particular great now that my email is gmail, because all >of the messages in a given thread are kept together. I also have a filter >set up, so all of my joni emails go into one "inbox". They are also >isolated on my phone, so if I'm ever stuck in a line, I can then catch up >on all of my Joni email. > >I would argue strongly in favor of NOT going to some alternative Yahoo >universe which might involve changing my paradigm. I resent the way Yahoo >periodically takes over my browser with it's logo feces. > >On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Sharon Watkins wrote: > >> I vote for the present format; changing may just bring it's own set of >> problems. >> I delete the emails after I've read them, saving only the ones in which I >> have a particular interest. >> Sharon >> >> Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:06:57 +0000 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Re: odd Joni dream What a fantastic dream ! I'm going to read that again. So rich ! I often have Joni in my dreams. Have had for years. And I love it but I've never had one so lush with caves and snow and Klein and all those places. That, my friend is a treasure !Your post reads like a dream itself. Maybe we should all try banana splits before bed. I was always told no cheese and no bananas before sleep too ! On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Ha. I love your Joni dreams, both of you. I've never had one about Joni, > although I have had dreams that include Joni-listers, some that I've met > and > some that I've never met. I rarely remember many details about dreams, > except > for the violent ones and even that's not for long. > > For the record, we are all > freaks, and that's the best way to be. > > Joni may not have written "Dream on," > but she does use the words, "Dream on, dreamer," so you're close. > >________________________________ > >From: Susan Tierney McNamara > > >To: "evian@sasktel.net" ; > "joni@smoe.org" > >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:46:45 PM > >Subject: RE: odd Joni dream > > > >Oh this is great!! Thanks Rob. I love dreams > and this seems like a great one. Dream On was our prom song! Hahaha! And > just for the record, I don't admit it usually, but I have this recurring > dream > that Jonifest is at Joni's house and at the end of the dream she always > calls > me a poser and kicks me out ... sad sad ... As my daughter often reminds me > ... I'm a freak! :-) > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-joni@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of evian@sasktel.net > >Sent: Tuesday, > November 15, 2011 12:30 PM > >To: joni@smoe.org > >Subject: odd Joni dream > > > >You > know how some listers have mentioned their dreams about Joni?B Well, I > have > never understood that, as I never dream about famous people or anything.B > However, the other night, right before bed, I got the munchies, and, long > story short, I ended up eating this HUGE banana split, while skimming my > email > (including posts to the JMDL).B I then fell asleep and had the craziest > dreams, and Joni kept popping up all over the place.B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:34:47 -0500 From: Ken Evans Subject: Can the digest be fixed? One email per digest and lots of them is annoying and actually makes it less likely that I'll read them all. On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:01 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 16 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 508 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Kate's Snow, etc. NJC ["Betsy Blue" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:00:58 +0000 > From: "Betsy Blue" > Subject: Kate's Snow, etc. NJC > > Maybe I'm not "not British enough" for Kate...maybe I'm just not getting it. Kate seems to be in a different world. I. get the same feeling from Tori and Bjork at times. Part of it is their vocalization and part of it is the actual lyrics. I still don't understand most Tori-isms, even though she's from the US. > > Joni's observations are of this world and human beings, although her perspective is sort of otherworldly. Hearing her music is a little like stepping away from an impressionist painting. She also has great diction and didn't cover with too much production until the late 80s. (Yes, CMIARS, I'm talking about you.) Everything makes some sense on first listen, and you pick up more as time goes on. > > It's hard for me to think of Hejira as "new" or "difficult" because it has always been there for me. Ever since my little fetal ears developed, anyway. To me, it's as perfect as an album with no piano could be. > > On a tangent, I miss albums! Like Lesson in Survival's seamless transition into Let the Wind Carry Me. What is Underneath the Streetlight but sounding brass and tinkling cymbals without Love? It seems like there are fewer and fewer albums worth listening to or buying in whole. And the packaging, which was such a joy to behold back in the day, hardly matters now. I remember studying the Sgt Pepper LP for ages as a kid. > > End of Rant. > > Betsy > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #508 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:34:10 -0600 From: "Ava Rosenblum" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2011 #522 I've noticed I am deleting a lot too now. Fred's idea may be the way to go. best, ava On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:59:43 -0500 (EST) owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 16 2011 > Volume 2011 : Number 522 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL digest problems [Fred >Simon ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:54:23 -0500 (EST) >From: Fred Simon > Subject: Re: JMDL digest problems > > Admittedly, I just don't have as much time for the list >as I'd like, but I do > enjoy reading occasional digests. But with this one >email per digest glitch, > I'm just deleting almost everything, which is a shame. > >For whatever my vote is worth, I'd like to move to a >system with functioning > digests. > > Thanks, >Fred > > > > - - Fred Simon > http://myspace.com/fredsimon > http://facebook.com/music.fred.simon > > > > > > - -----Original Message----- > > > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:25:05 -0700 >From: Les Irvin > Subject: Re: JMDL digest problems > > Do the problems still persist with the digest for >everyone? As > mentioned, the Smoe system has basically been abandoned >by the owner. > Are the problems bad enough to give up on Smoe and move >to another > server? If so, it'll have to be a system like >YahooGroups, effectively > eliminating the "OnlyJoni" option and bringing with it >other inherent > problems. > > Any thoughts? > > On 11/16/2011 10:34 AM, Ken Evans wrote: >> One email per digest and lots of them is annoying and >>actually makes it less > likely that I'll read them all. > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:31:55 -0500 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: JMDL digest problems Hi Les, I still get individual emails as well as the consolidated postings but I don't have any problems with the extra digests. Here is 1 vote for staying with SMOE since I do like the OnlyJoni posts option. Would the yahoo groups require a yahoo email address? These groups can often be blocked by people who get their mail at their work. Thanks, Stewart ===================================================================== Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:25:05 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: JMDL digest problems Do the problems still persist with the digest for everyone? As mentioned, the Smoe system has basically been abandoned by the owner. Are the problems bad enough to give up on Smoe and move to another server? If so, it'll have to be a system like YahooGroups, effectively eliminating the "OnlyJoni" option and bringing with it other inherent problems. Any thoughts? On 11/16/2011 10:34 AM, Ken Evans wrote: > One email per digest and lots of them is annoying and actually makes it less likely that I'll read them all. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:57:10 -0800 From: David Marine Subject: SMOE Les and Listers, Considering how much time and discussion it took to come up with the system as it is, with individual posts, digests, JC and NJC, I think we should try to keep this system in place. Losing the JC only option would not bother me, but I remember how adamant many were who advocated for it. Personally I like getting the unexpurgated digest every day or so. I can sit down with a cup of coffee and enjoy all the JC and NJC. Now that SMOE is broken I am flooded with the mini-digests, and I, too, am sometimes quick to delete, rather than savor people's posts. If there were a way to find a server that could allow us to maintain the traditional format, that would be my vote. If we can't find a free server that can mimic all that SMOE did for us, would it be possible to pay for such a server? I would pitch in some funds and I'm sure many others would. David ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #329 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe