From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #299 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 22 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 299 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Miles of Aisles [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] RE: Court and Spark ["Robert Sartorius" ] MOA [Chris Treacy ] New Joni Tribute right around the corner [Bob Muller Subject: RE: Court and Spark Bob wrote: "The whole of C&S is multi-thematic I think, and one of the streams of theme running through it is mental health. People's Parties - I told you when I met you I was CRAZY Help Me - When I get this CRAZY feeling.... Just Like This Train - Jealous lovin' will make you CRAZY And then the bookends that conclude the album - Trouble Child and Twisted; one very heavy dealing with mental health issues and one very playful. As much as Hejira is my musical touchstone on any given day I'll call C&S my favorite Joni." Whoa - there you go again, Bob, coming for "conversation". Amid the stretch of six original recordings from Blue through Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, I bet a majority of us could say the same about our favorite and our next favorite on any given day, but there would be a pretty wide distribution of answers for the favorite and next favorite. Heck, you could even throw in LOTC and make it seven. At one time or another, I think I have loved all of them the most. The mental health theme in Court and Spark rings true to me - I think the songs reveal a vulnerability akin to her "Blue" recording period, which cannot really be masked by the shift from solo performances to having a band and a gang for support. Some additional bits of evidence (beyond those cited by Bob above): Court and Spark - "He saw how I worried sometimes, I worry sometimes" People's Parties (more) - "I'm just living on nerves and feelings....fumbling deaf dumb and blind...I wish I had more sense of humor, keeping the sadness at bay, throwing the lightness on these things, laughing it all away...." The Same Situation - "You've had lots of lovely women, now you turn your gaze to me, weighing the beauty and the imperfection to see if I'm worthy, Like the church like a cop like a mother, you want me to be truthful Sometimes you turn it one me like a weapon though and I need your approval". This song has been speculated as her Warren Beatty song, but it could well be Jackson Browne, in the context of Car on a Hill - especially the lines "like a mother" and "weapon though, and I need your approval." Car on a Hill - "I watch for judgment anxiously" "I've been sitting up waiting for my sugar to show......He said he'd be over three hours ago..... now where in the city can that boy be?" And, if the "Girls Like Us" account is accurate, these concerns bothered Joni more than a lot. Down to You - "Everything comes and goes, pleasure moves on too early and trouble leaves too slow, just when you're thinking you've finally got it made, bad news comes knocking at your garden gate". Just Like This Train (more) - "I went looking for a cause, or a strong cat without claws, or any reason to resume......what are you gonna do now, you've no one to give your love to". Another main theme - the search for love vs the struggle for higher position - - runs through through several of the songs (continuing, as it were, where she left off in For the Roses). In terms of inspiration, this album seems more and more to me to have been influenced by her Jackson Browne period, much as her earlier records were inspired by her Cohen, Nash and Taylor periods. I can picture that relationship (and its end and aftermath) as the inspiration for Help Me, The Same Situation, Car on a Hill, Down To You, Just Like This Train and Trouble Child. Those tensions and themes - mental health, search for love vs art, the arc of a specific relationship - fueled Joni's art. The more intense the moments, the stronger the art, or so it seems to me. She was going through a lot at that time - and a lot came out of her through it. One thing that has always raised my eyebrows - Miles of Aisles was recorded and released after Court and Spark, and recorded during her "Court and Spark Tour", yet Joni included only one C&S song on MOA. Does anybody know why? Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:34:01 -0500 From: Chris Treacy Subject: MOA I think the reason might be that the record company wanted to sell it as a retrospective and cash in on the fumes of C&S's success. Yes, Joni was a commercially viable artist already, but my guess would be that Geffen (or whomever) steered her away from including material that was selling steadfastedly already. Keep in mind, Joni always refused to do a hits compilation (until 'hits,' lol), so perhaps this was a compromise since Geffen owned Asylum and he was a good friend. I used to wonder about this myself - and when I finally got my hands on some actual full length shows from that tour, I was blown away by how much was missing. Or - maybe she just didnt feel the live arrangements held up when she listened back... Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:33:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: New Joni Tribute right around the corner I know that it SEEMS like I've been napping on the job regarding Joni covers, or lost interest, but it's simply not true. Granted, I don't have access to all of the resources like I do at home but the flame still burns...look for some major catch up activity starting in December when I hit the USA again. Anyway, just discovered this collection coming out next week: http://tinyurl.com/3obpp8f Like I say, leave it to the Europeans (and Dave and Robin of course) to explore Joni's entire catalogue...listen to the samples of these, very unique string/vocal arrangements and check out the tracklist!! 1. Man To Man 2. Blue Motel Room 3. Wild Things Run Fast (First one!) 4. Be Cool 5. Slouching Towards Bethlehem 6. Blue 7. Cherokee Louise 8. Moon At The Window 9. Love Puts On A New Face (First one!) 10. Sex Kills 11. Love 12. You Dream Flat Tires Very cool, 12 deep tracks - no BSN, BYT, TCG - love it!! Bob NP: Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Did I Let You Know" ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #299 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe