From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #283 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, October 10 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 283 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Paul McCartney ballet? [Lc Stanley ] New Library item: Author discusses race, culture in relation to Joni Mitchell [TheStaff@JoniMitche] Re: Joni's Smile ["Marian" ] Re: New Library item: MELLIFLUOUS [Bob Muller ] Re: New Library item: MELLIFLUOUS [Dave Blackburn ] Cover me, Canada - so its BYT [Catherine McKay ] RE: New Library item: Author discusses race, culture in relation to Joni Mitchell [Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: Paul McCartney ballet? Third little video in this wedding one shows Paul's ballet. Do you think he was influenced by Joni's?! http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/security-place-mccartney-weddin g-14698949 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:08:48 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Author discusses race, culture in relation to Joni Mitchell Title: Author discusses race, culture in relation to Joni Mitchell Publication: Daily Orange Date: 2011.10.10 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2431 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:25:44 -0700 From: "Marian" Subject: Re: Joni's Smile How wonderful that a photo of Joni could inspire you to write such a beautiful song! Thank you for sharing it! I am very curious about your Chrystoline instrument. It sounds like you used it for this song? Do have photos online anywhere? Do you sell them? Marian ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 12:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: ChamberMuseInk@aol.com Subject: Joni's Smile Hello, Christopher Grener here, writing to you from Syracuse, NY. Forgive me if I am repeating a story here. Several years ago, I purchased a Billboard magazine that had a picture of Joni smiling on it's cover. Despite having been a fan for quite some time, it was the most "hi beams on" photo that I have ever seen. I had Hejira on the CD player as I was working up a version of it. I was so inspired that a piece of music that I call "Joni's Smile" just flew into and through my fingers. My guitar was in a drop C tuning and Hejira's vamp found it's way in as a musical quote at the end. As I build instruments I created what some might view as a sort of a modern version of a mando cello cross bred with a 12 string - using octave sets as opposed to unison. I call it a "Chrystoline". Below is Dropbox link of a version of Joni's Smile that I recorded and mixed yesterday using it's voice(s). I would like to share this with the group, but, am unsure of the political correct way to do so. So, I am sending this to you for your approval and or advice on how to proceed. Please note that the Dropbox WAV file is 52 M. _http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22239107/Joni%27s%20Smile.mp3_ (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22239107/Joni's%20Smile.mp3) I send this as fidelity is important to me. But, as it would take some time to download, and as some could not play this file, I also have attached an MP3 of the same cut. I would appreciate knowing what you think. If you feel it appropriate to send out to the group, please feel free to do so. It is sincere homage. I ask you indulgence of the fact that I am rather old fashioned in that I believe in asking and not assuming. Have an excellent day. Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:41:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New Library item: MELLIFLUOUS Hi Betsy - agreed. And I think you were about 1 star generous. Time has not been nice to it either. Bob NP: Michael Pettruciani, "Estate" (on jazzradio.com, really nice if you are a jazz/blues fan, check it out) ________________________________ From: "betsyblue82@gmail.com" To: "joni@smoe.org" ; scjoniguy@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:43 PM Subject: Re: New Library item: MELLIFLUOUS >CMIARS damned with faint praise. >Bob No faint praise here. Joni's worst album. 3.5/5 stars in my book. Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:38:11 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: New Library item: MELLIFLUOUS My sense about Joni is that she has/had a fascination with technology while knowing so little about it. On the one hand she has never used a computer and bemoans the world's dehumanization through technology and yet she is quick to jump on the latest bandwagon with 80's synths, drum machines, then the VG8, then the Yamaha Motif, which accounted for most of the sounds on Shine. Her sense of taste in setting the words to their perfect accompaniment pretty much abandoned her through the 80s (I know she says her lyrics about a harsh mechanical world required a harsh mechanical music but that treatment repels many of us from listening to the songs and obscures the message itself in metallic sounds.) I'm sure Larry Klein was the main force behind the electronic Joni albums and it's obvious she wanted to regain some fans after Mingus but it seems strange to me that her extraordinary "taste filters" were turned off for a decade. Shine is an example of a technological neophyte thinking that all these convenient factory provided sounds in her new keyboard would be all she needed to make an album: fake guitar strums on BYT, fake saxophone licks when she had Bob Sheppard available, fake piano when she has a real one, and so on. Most of us that did projects with MIDI sequencing look back at our early efforts and realized the sounds we once thought were so cool are lifeless, uninteresting and immediately dated. It's as if Joni just went through that phase 20 years after the rest of us. Dave On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:21 AM, betsyblue82@gmail.com wrote: > Bob, > > Time has been much easier on DED, except for the "male wail" on Good Friends. Blech! But I digress... > > A lot of CMIARS is boring, and that's the last thing I want from Joni. None of the guest vocalists help. I feel that she must have had no idea who she was at that point in her life. > > The Reoccurring Dream and The Beat of Black Wings are my favorite tracks, followed by Number One and Lakota. Tea Leaf Prophecy is ok as a song, but I like the River version better. > > Wayne Shorter is responsible for an additional half star just for making me so happy every time I hear the last 30 seconds of the album. A Bird That Whistles is a perfect transition into Night Ride Home. > > NP Chinese Cafe > Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:04:12 -0700 From: Mary Morris Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2011 #333 Betsy, Re: CMIARS. Can't agree with you here. While not one her best, it is certainly not one of her worst. I can't pick a "worse" album of Joni's as there is always something there to hang a hook on. I generally agree with the music reviewer, except I don't think "Tea Leaf Prophecy" is obscure. Mary GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:43:17 -0400 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #333 > > > JMDL Digest Monday, October 10 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 333 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: New Library item: MELLIFLUOUS [betsyblue82@gmail.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 05:43:07 +0000 > From: betsyblue82@gmail.com > Subject: Re: New Library item: MELLIFLUOUS > > >CMIARS damned with faint praise. > > >Bob > > No faint praise here. Joni's worst album. 3.5/5 stars in my book. > Betsy > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #333 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Cover me, Canada - so its BYT In "Cover me, Canada," just aired a few minutes ago, it's Warren Dean Flandez with "Big Yellow Taxi." It's OK, but nothing earth-shattering. It's BYT, after all, already covered a zillion times. What is left to do with it? Like you expect earth-shattering? All that changes is the price that you gots to pay to get in the Tree Museum! WD Flandez is a little fella from BC (I think - my memory sucks!) of probably Filapino background, with crazy Rasta-like hair. He tends to be soulful to the extreme, does an OK job and includes some rapping. Deborah Cox, one of the judges, says it's OK, but isn't really impressed. The Knight guy (Jordan? from one of those boy-groups, or onea dem boy-groups that my kids listened to ten years ago, but I don't remember which one - Boyz2Men or summat like that, kinda likes it. The other guy, Somebody Fair, Ron maybe? who is a producer of some major big-names, but who is kind of a grey-man who stands out in absolutely no way to Yers Truly, is OK with it - they are so non-commital that I don't remember even two minutes after. I am in here, typing badly, at a commercial break just after - I am THAT committed to you, Joni-Peeps! So, it's a big MEH with me. But should be here shortly, if not already, for dems what's wanna giva lissen: http://www.cbc.ca/covermecanada/ Big bye-byes from Canaduh and Happy Turkey Day to us! I know it's tomorrow in fact,but we kinda did it today, and I drank too much, but I don't care, because I dont' work anymore so whatevs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:38:26 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: New Library item: Author discusses race, culture in relation to Joni Mitchell Wow, this is really interesting. I had not heard that story before about Joni singing for Reuben Carter in jail. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:09 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: New Library item: Author discusses race, culture in relation to Joni Mitchell Title: Author discusses race, culture in relation to Joni Mitchell Publication: Daily Orange Date: 2011.10.10 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2431 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:45:06 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell: Courting blackness and sparking music Title: Joni Mitchell: Courting blackness and sparking music Publication: NewsHouse Date: 2011.10.10 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2432 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #283 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe