From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #144 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 24 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 144 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The Joni/Jimmy Connection! [Paul Castle ] RE: amelia [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Tunings for Woodstock [] Re: Tunings for Woodstock [Paul Castle ] Jimmy Webb and Joni [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:06:02 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: The Joni/Jimmy Connection! Found this in "Liner Notes for Jimmy Webb's Letters" by Richie Unterberger - see http://bit.ly/lNaTgZ >> Letters was a more sedate, piano-oriented album than its predecessors, and soaked in the influence of Webb's peer and eventual close friend Joni Mitchell. "I was tremendously influenced by Joni Mitchell," he admitted to Peter Doggett of Record Collector in 1994. "She was a good friend, and I was fortunate enough to be around her when she was working on For the Roses and Court and Spark. We were just part of each other's lives for a while. I definitely envied that part of her work -- the idea that this is just a conversation you're listening in on. It can still be poetry, but not self-conscious or forced poetry. I got extremely under her spell as a writer -- I still am. I used to go to the studio and listen to her record, sit quietly in the back of the control room. After the Beatles, Joni was the next big blip on my radar screen, in terms of, 'Hey, pay attention: this girl is doing something a little bit different.'" Mitchell's longtime engineer Henry Lewy also did some engineering work for Letters as well. Joni's influence is most apparent on one of the record's stronger cuts, "Simile," inspired by an incident at the Los Angeles Troubadour club. Webb had sent her roses and a letter after seeing her perform there early in her career, but the letter wasn't found by Mitchell until a few years later, as alluded to in the song's opening verse. More indirectly, several other tracks had a similar intimate, piano-based ambience, such as "Hurt Me Well," "Catharsis," "Piano," and "When Can Brown Begin," the last of which might have had a hint of Brian Wilson as well. >> You can listen to 'Simile' (with Joni on backing vocals) @ http://blip.fm/~14shg7 I went to see Jimmy Webb for the first time a few years ago at The Pizza On The Park here in London with Peter Doggett (who is mentioned in the above article) and a couple of other friends. I was completely blown away, so much so that I went back on my own a couple of nights later and managed to get in to see him again. best to all PaulC ____________________ http://blip.fm/paulcastle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:00:25 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: amelia Thanks Oddmund ... There were a couple of photographs in that youtube clip I had never seen before ... like the one with her hands over her face, and the couple of shots of her reclining. Very nice. Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Oddmund Kaarevik Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 12:40 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: amelia one of my favorite songs beautiful version http://youtu.be/8bFgxKov8Ts O ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 20:28:47 -0400 From: Subject: Tunings for Woodstock Just finished watching the DVD of the TNT Joni tribute. To the guitar players: any idea what tuning Richard Thompson is in for his rendition of Woodstock. Have always loved it, and would like to try playing it. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 07:13:52 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: Re: Tunings for Woodstock Brian wrote > Just finished watching the DVD of the TNT Joni tribute. To the guitar players: any idea what tuning > Richard Thompson is in for his rendition of Woodstock. Have always loved it, and > would like to try playing it. Hi Brian - back in April Sue McNamara wrote to the list saying that she'd had a request to tab this for the JM database and I wrote: > http://youtu.be/h54rRq2SAv0 > I've no idea how you're going to tab up all > his fiddly-bits but.... > I reckon he's tuned D75525 - ie DADGAD > - capo 2 and the I chord is 000200 alternating > between (and bending the 3 of) 000030 - and > the IV chord is mainly 550000 or 550030 - with > 550300 thrown in occasionally - ending with - > 000200 - -550000 - - - -x3200x - - - - - - > and we've got to get ourselves back to the > 000200 --330000 - 55000 - 000200 > gar - - - - ar - - - - ar - - - - den Hope this helps very best PaulC NW Bonnie Raitt & Richard Thompson - Dimming of The Day http://youtu.be/1o8M74ufF4Q ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 23:19:39 -0700 From: Subject: Jimmy Webb and Joni Hi Walt, It's so great to hear that you are re-discovering Jimmy Webb. I know we have some other fans here - ChuckE and there were some former members of the list from the U.K. who were into him and sent me some brilliant live concert recordings long ago. I always loved Jimmy's songs but developed a deeper appreciation for him as I matured. Two loves of my life considered him their "Joni" plus my Edwardian era father thought Webb, McCartney and Lennon were some of the greatest composers of the 20th century. One boyfriend knew Jimmy a bit back in the day and used to relate a lot of stories about the background of the songs - some of which I think I posted here long ago but the memory is dimmer now. Initially, I didn't much take to the song P.F. Sloan either, but once I heard the back story, I appreciated it more! Campo de Encino was also the name of his house/compound in Encino, CA. The song Adios is a tribute to Lucy's El Adobe Mexican restaurant in LA across from Paramount Studios - recorded by both Linda Ronstadt and Jimmy. Lucy fed many of the now famous singer songwriters in LA for free back in the day. When her restaurant later went through rough times, those same artists all held a fundraiser to help her out. The restaurant is still operating on Melrose Ave. now. Jimmy was married to one of Barry Sullivan's (old Hollywood actor) daughters for many years and they had many children together. Sometime in the late 90s she separated from him and, by his own account, he was a complete mess. I was at one of his small shows in '99 where he spoke of this upheaval in his life and he said that Carly Simon came to his rescue and literally pulled him off the floor, took him to stay at her place and got him back on his feet. (Thank you, Carly!) He has done so well since then. He has often spoken of Joni as the epitome of singer-songwriters. For a great read, you might want to check out "Tunesmith," his book on his life and songwriting. I have read a deailed account of his Joni backstory of the album "Letters" - don't have all the details ready at hand but below is some background from the album liner notes. "Letters was a more sedate, piano-oriented album than its predecessors, and soaked in the influence of Webb's peer and eventual close friend Joni Mitchell. "I was tremendously influenced by Joni Mitchell," he admitted to Peter Doggett of Record Collector in 1994. "She was a good friend, and I was fortunate enough to be around her when she was working on For the Roses and Court and Spark. We were just part of each other's lives for a while. I definitely envied that part of her work -- the idea that this is just a conversation you're listening in on. It can still be poetry, but not self-conscious or forced poetry. I got extremely under her spell as a writer - -- I still am. I used to go to the studio and listen to her record, sit quietly in the back of the control room. After the Beatles, Joni was the next big blip on my radar screen, in terms of, 'Hey, pay attention: this girl is doing something a little bit different.'" Mitchell's longtime engineer Henry Lewy also did some engineering work for Letters as well. Joni's influence is most apparent on one of the record's stronger cuts, "Simile," inspired by an incident at the Los Angeles Troubadour club. Webb had sent her roses and a letter after seeing her perform there early in her career, but the letter wasn't found by Mitchell until a few years later, as alluded to in the song's opening verse. More indirectly, several other tracks had a similar intimate, piano-based ambience, such as "Hurt Me Well," "Catharsis," "Piano," and "When Can Brown Begin," the last of which might have had a hint of Brian Wilson as well." Walt, I hope someday you might get the chance to see him perform. It is really the experience of a lifetime. Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #144 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe