From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #76 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, March 18 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 076 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2011 #81 [kevinf@broadcastvision.com] typical ["ingrid lochrenberg" ] and ["ingrid lochrenberg" ] tsunami ["ingrid lochrenberg" ] Re: American Idol ljc ["mack watson-bush" ] Fw: Joni St. Patrick's Day ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Photo of Joni & Neil [Dan Olson ] RE: Joni St. Patrick's Day [Susan Tierney McNamara ] OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN [Kate Johnson Subject: typical yes, and the put-down bangry and bitterb is so very often reserved for someone who is deemed by youth-fixated worshippers to not be sexually attractive anymore, and just plain angry. itbs very good to be angry when you bre feeling angry...and does it perhaps occur to you that therebs something going on in her mind at that particular moment that is making her angry...and what you construe as bitterness is just her realisation that youbre not getting any more intelligent with time and youbre doomed not to grasp what shebs saying anyway.....? no wonder older women are accused of being bitter and angry....meanwhile youbre bitter and angry cos you actually cannot grasp anything at all....i know joni laughs a lot and she probably cracks up all the time and you donbt have any clue of what is attractive so just slither away. ibm sure joni gets turned on much faster than you do. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:47:32 +0200 From: "ingrid lochrenberg" Subject: and and ibm sure she gets turned off even faster. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:32:10 +0200 From: "ingrid lochrenberg" Subject: tsunami It seems more and more like we need another tsunami, just much bigger, to rush in and flood these reactors that arenbt reacting properly. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:52:37 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: American Idol ljc Well Jerry, me being anything but shy..... I watched the first eight and it was so absolutely dreadful that I thought to myself 'why in the world am I watching this shit' and went to my computer and turned on some real music to salve my being. There is not one in the lot that is worth diddly. I won't bother again. You missed nothing Jerry. Apparently I have been missing some interesting business here in jmdl land. I like Joni's attitude just the way it is and have no problem with discussions outside the parameters of just Joni. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:54:40 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Fw: Joni St. Patrick's Day It sounds magical and to put it into a true netherworld of delight he would only have to have played 'for free.' mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:03:23 -0500 From: Dan Olson Subject: Re: Photo of Joni & Neil Cool! But crediting the MP3 as "Woodstock Rehearsal, 1969" is ridiculous. It sounds like an alternate (shitty) mix of the song that was on Neil's "After the Gold Rush". On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:42 PM, T Peckham wrote: > Cool! But isn't that Stills' fur jacket Neil's wearing?? :-P > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Paul Castle >wrote: > > > This is a new one to me - Joni and Neil arriving > > at Heathrow Airport on December 30, 1969 > > > > http://bit.ly/fRqbKL > > > > along with an MP3 of Neil singing 'I Believe In You' > > (credited as Woodstock Rehearsal, 1969) > > > > best to all > > PaulC > > > > > > -- > "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." > ---Louise Bourgeois > > > > -- > "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." > ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:34:42 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni St. Patrick's Day I love this story Kakki! Real good for free! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of kbhla@fastmail.fm Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:35 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni St. Patrick's Day While out today walking around downtown L.A. I came upon one of our homeless musicians on the street playing Both Sides Now on tenor sax. There's a lot of talented guys who always play great blues and jazz on the streets around here but this is the first time in my 20 years in the neighborhood I have ever heard Joni. Even better, he then segued into a beautiful traditional Irish ballad, the notes of which totally complemented the notes of BSN. He made the two songs become one. it was a very beautiful moment. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:15:27 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN "Down To You". What an absolutely incredible amazing piece of music. I had to start it up again after the first 30 seconds to hear that piano intro again. And do you know what's just as genius as the chord progression? THE SPACES OF DEAD AIR BETWEEN THEM. I mean, give that first 30 seconds a listen. Go ahead, I can wait. It almost plays like a mini-instrumental story in itself. That first 30 seconds, those 'chords of inquiry' that suggest, question, and then resolve - and then the REAL magic starts. But that first 30 seconds...most artists can't craft anything in their ENTIRE CAREERS that can rival it. And how cool that I have a group of friends that GET THAT. Bob NP: See above post - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Kate On 17-Mar-11, at 2:15 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > ...most artists can't craft anything in their > ENTIRE CAREERS that can rival it. > > ~~ Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:42:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN Sine you've suggested it, I can hear it in my head, and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. And don't you love it when you hear something again for the very first time? Joni's music is always new for me and I love the joy of rediscovery. And now I have to listen to the actual piece, and not just the in-my-head version. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:15:27 PM > Subject: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN > > "Down To You". > > What an absolutely incredible amazing piece of music. I had to start it up > again after the first 30 seconds to hear that piano intro again. And do > you know what's just as genius as the chord progression? THE SPACES OF > DEAD AIR BETWEEN THEM. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:46:28 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN Bob, it is amazing. The hesitant emotion is palpable. My favorite part is the choir that comes in on the phrase "Love is Gone." I know there are many amazing albums in her catalogue, but I keep coming back to Court and Spark as a touchstone. Maybe it's because that's where I came in or maybe it's just that amazing. Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:15 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN "Down To You". What an absolutely incredible amazing piece of music. I had to start it up again after the first 30 seconds to hear that piano intro again. And do you know what's just as genius as the chord progression? THE SPACES OF DEAD AIR BETWEEN THEM. I mean, give that first 30 seconds a listen. Go ahead, I can wait. It almost plays like a mini-instrumental story in itself. That first 30 seconds, those 'chords of inquiry' that suggest, question, and then resolve - and then the REAL magic starts. But that first 30 seconds...most artists can't craft anything in their ENTIRE CAREERS that can rival it. And how cool that I have a group of friends that GET THAT. Bob NP: See above post - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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BUT...that's just a part of it. But the bigger portion of the connection is that Court and Spark simply IS that amazing. While I still listen to and love so much of that music of the time, much is dated or has some dated elements. Court and Spark doesn't have a dated second (well OK, Cheech and Chong) and ALWAYS sounds fresh. As much as I love Hejira, there are times when I'm not in the right frame for it. BUT C&S, well, when that love comes to my door I always let it in. Bob NP: Beastie Boys, "B-Boy Bouillabaisse" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I can't think of anyone else who inspired me more during those times. Sue From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:56 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN Probably a combination of the two, Sue. You used the word "touchstone" and that's important. What music was popular or were you into during critical rites of passage? (That's a rhetorical question, I'm not prying - ha!)For a lot of us boomers, the mid 70's were high school/college days with many significant passages. BUT...that's just a part of it. But the bigger portion of the connection is that Court and Spark simply IS that amazing. While I still listen to and love so much of that music of the time, much is dated or has some dated elements. Court and Spark doesn't have a dated second (well OK, Cheech and Chong) and ALWAYS sounds fresh. As much as I love Hejira, there are times when I'm not in the right frame for it. BUT C&S, well, when that love comes to my door I always let it in. Bob NP: Beastie Boys, "B-Boy Bouillabaisse"------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:57:25 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN It always irks me when people refer to C&S as 'Joni-lite' or use similar descriptive phrase. The whole album has an elegance and grace about it that, as Bob said, is timeless. And yes, it was my first Joni and came along at a time of rapid spurts in my personal growth. And yes, 'Down to You' is amazing. It's like a piece of chamber music. That intro that Bob described so beautifully; the choir that Sue mentions singing 'Ooo love is gone, written on your spirit this sad song'; the interplay between strings and piano in the interval - brilliance. And the self-analysis in those lyrics that is truly universal - 'you're a kind person, you're a cold person too', 'you're a brute, you're an angel, you can crawl, you can fly too'. I think we can all take a good, long look inside and see all of that in ourselves. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Susan Tierney McNamara Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:46 PM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com ; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN Bob, it is amazing. The hesitant emotion is palpable. My favorite part is the choir that comes in on the phrase "Love is Gone." I know there are many amazing albums in her catalogue, but I keep coming back to Court and Spark as a touchstone. Maybe it's because that's where I came in or maybe it's just that amazing. Sue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN >What an absolutely incredible amazing piece of music. I had to start it up again after the first 30 seconds to hear that piano intro again. And do you know what's just as genius as the chord progression? THE SPACES OF DEAD AIR BETWEEN THEM. I feel the same way about the opening to the title track. While no, C&S is not my FAVORITE Joni album, I love it, and put those two tracks in particular with her very best. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:11:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: RE: OMG, just got stopped in my tracks AGAIN Bobbs eureka? Cool song Bob and glad you had a Joni-eureka b itbs almost like we were all there with ya! Here Ibm into my 2nd 6 months of JMDL and youbre awesome downloads , though awesome, arenbt whatbs keeping me here. Itbs your passions, enthusiasm, friendship and Eurekabs. I was lost in heavy rock back then and didnbt rediscover songs like that until I got older (mellowed and matured) b lol. Hope we get to sit in the middle of another ball you can eatb feast again in LA. I feel for you though, because Ibm going to be in the Big Easy for Jazz Fest and gonna see if I can con the Paz into another feast at the Rio Mar. Jim PS. Cool evening Kakhi, from us rural folks, walking in downtown LA sounds exciting enough by itself, and then to stumble upon Joni? Way too cool. Remind me to tell you the bNJCb late night with the giant owl story from the other night!! - Look forward to seeing you in Aug. B ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #76 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe