From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #16 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, January 17 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 016 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 [Lieve Reckers ] another "Joni in fiction" event (BBC radio 4 soap The Archers) [Lieve Rec] 15 Songs from the New Victoria Theatre in London 1974 [est86mlm@ameritech] Classic Albums [Gmail ] Anyone Seen This Yet? [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Re: Classic Albums [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Laurel Canyon [Ken ] Re: Laurel Canyon [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Laurel Canyon [Mags ] Re: Laurel Canyon (books) [Lc Stanley ] Re: Laurel Canyon p.s. [Mags ] Re: Laurel Canyon now mystery solved re: Nurit Wilde [Mags ] Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 ["Mark" ] Fw: Facebook ["Mark" ] Re: Laurel Canyon (books) [Ken ] Re: Laurel Canyon now mystery solved re: Nurit Wilde [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 [joe farrell ] Re: Fw: Facebook [Lori Fye ] Re: Facebook ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:10:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Lucky you, John! I was hoping someone would pipe up and say (s)he was there! I looked up the New Victoria Theatre, it is now called the Apollo Victoria theatre and is the home of the show Wicked. Apparently it can accommodate over 2300 people, including standing spaces, so that's quite big. Any further memories you can throw in would be very welcome. I bet, a complete recording would be fantastic, but I hope you had a good look at all the Youtube clips posted by this Wilfrid guy. There are really quite a few of them, and some of them are double anyway (2 songs), so I think you could easily retrace about 10 songs. I looked up what there was on the Jonimitchel.com library, and I can only find a clip of People's Parties. The text says: "From a performance at the New Victoria Theater. Joni appears on stage with her acoustic guitar. This concert was videotaped and broadcast on the BBC's Old Grey Whistle Test on November 19, 1974" I am copying Les in case he can include the other clips too. All the best, Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: John McGloin To: Lieve Reckers ; Michael quebec ; jonilist JMDL Sent: Sun, 16 January, 2011 1:32:09 Subject: RE: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Hi Lieve I remember that day well. I was at the New Victoria Theatre, seeing Joni in a new light with her work with the LA Express. It was around the time I was getting into jazz and Joni soared in my estimation. I'd would love to be able to get hold of a complete recording of that concert Cheers John - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lieve Reckers Sent: 15 January 2011 22:56 To: Michael quebec; jonilist JMDL Subject: Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Wonderful stuff, Michael! The guy who posted it (Wilfrid the Siger) must have recorded the whole show (London's New Victoria Theatre, 22 April 1974), he's posted it in several parts, other songs such as For the Roses, Blue, Help Me and others are also there. My goodness, how I wish I could have been there, it would have made a wonderful 20th birthday present for the next day! But instead I was travelling through Europe on an Interrail card, I think I actually spent my birthday in Crete, but no not in Matala, to be honest, but in a village called Mallia (which in those days was still unspoilt but is now completely ruined by the tourist trade). Anybody else remember where they were on that day? Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael quebec To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sat, 15 January, 2011 22:10:44 Subject: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Hi, Some of you know that I'm a huge fan of Joni's piano tunes. Well, I was cruzin Youtube today and I came across a fella who does some wonderful Joni covers (search Youtube for Cuzandeffect), and through him I found this Joni footage from a 1974 concert. This has to be the best live Joni footage I've ever seen, on par with the Pink Dress Concert. She seems so relaxed here and is absolutely at the top of her game. Her piano playing is a marvel to watch. Treat yourself to a double bill of Same Situation and Just Like This Train, with the LA Express, in London. Superb stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPrsOn_TsqI Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:40:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: another "Joni in fiction" event (BBC radio 4 soap The Archers) I was hoping someone else would post this, because I don't want to become the "Archers correspondent" for this list, but it's been a few days now and I had better get this out of the way so it stops niggling at me! Short intro: The Archers is a radio soap on BBC radio 4, it has just celebrated its 60th anniversary. It is set in a fictional rural village called Ambridge. And to mark this anniversary, they announced a "big event that would shake Ambridge to its core". As it turned out, this big event was the accidental death of the posh landowner Nigel Pargeter. (He slipped off the roof of the big country home.) Lots of controversy in the country about whether that was a good decision by the scriptwriters. I must admit I haven't been following it very closely myself, but I did spot the Joni reference, it was quite big, and it went like this: Nigel was buried last Thursday. And Shula, his sister-in-law was one of the speakers during the funeral service. She said something to the tune of: "I want to quote from Nigel's very favourite song: We are stardust, we are golden. And we have got to get ourselves back to the garden. He's back there now." Then after the service Nigel's widow thanks Shula for the words, and she replies: "I'm glad you like it. I was afraid that maybe it was a bit too much of the old hippy thing" - and she replies: "But that's exactly what he was!" I must admit I remember another Joni reference from the Shula, maybe 25 years ago, so I am sure even the scriptwriters themselves don't remember! When she (temporarily) broke up with her boyfriend, she said wistfully: "As they say: you don't know what you've got till it's gone", and for some weird reason I always remembered it, because I thought that Shula did not really strike me as a true Joni-loving hippy... Well there we are now. I have completely put myself out as a die-hard Archers fan. It's not really true, although I will defend the programme when people rubbish it. It's the only soap I more or less follow, basically because the radio just happens to be on, and there have been times that I followed it more closely for some light relief. Now I just keep an ear out when I feel like it, a bit like you keep an eye out for an old neighbour or relative. So now I have done my JMDL duty and I can get on with the rest of the day! All the best, Lieve in London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:13:02 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: 15 Songs from the New Victoria Theatre in London 1974 Michael in Quebec I agree with you.....this is some GREAT Joni moments! There are 209 Videos to be seen in the JM.com LIBRARY including the following from the April 20-23, 1974 New Victornia Theatre in London. According to *A CHRONOLOGY OF APPEARANCES* compiled by Simon, the third concert was videotaped and an edited version was broadcast on the BBC's /Old Grey Whistle Test/ on November 19. Link to the concert videos here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/videolib.cfm or here: http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/detail.cfm?id=1385 ; All I Want & For The Roses ; Both Sides Now ; Cactus Tree ; Car On A Hill ; For the Roses & Blue ; Free Man In Paris & You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio ; Help Me ; People's Parties ; Rainy Night House ; Raised On Robbery ; The Same Situation & Just Like This Train Enjoy! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:53:03 +0000 From: Gmail Subject: Classic Albums I wish that they'd do one of Joni's albums for the 'Classic Albums' series. I'd love for her to do something like HOSL, Y'know, where she started innovating musically. I know that HOSL is considered to be a lesser-known and producers would probably plump for C&S or Blue (would she ever agree to talking about that one?). But it's probably of more interest to musos and die hard fans. But really, it's a turning point in her career. Or is it? Are all her albums turning points? Selfishly, I'd love for her to be talking about THOSL but I guess without Henry Lewy around they might not get much footage. Much Joni on the Sunny Sunday Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:07:59 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Anyone Seen This Yet? I'm pretty sure the video footage of Joni romping thru the snow with Graham Nash is from Under The Covers. Bought the DVD at BestBuy a few years ago and remember seeing that film footage. http://jonimitchell.com/library/viewmedia.cfm?id=64 Laura "what intrigues me are the images used in the video. Some of them look like home movie footage of Joni and Graham", ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 06:21:14 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Classic Albums I get the sense that Joni and Henry made their albums quite privately and that cameras rolling in the sessions would have been anathema. As you say, Henry's gone now, and Joni could perhaps only talk about the making of the albums in painting metaphors which wouldn't quite suit the Classic Albums series where a little technical detail is usually included. I just watched the Dark Side of the Moon one and learned a few things. Queen's Night at the Opera was also a good one. Dave On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Gmail wrote: > I wish that they'd do one of Joni's albums for the 'Classic Albums' series. I'd love for her to do something like HOSL, Y'know, where she started innovating musically. > > I know that HOSL is considered to be a lesser-known and producers would probably plump for C&S or Blue (would she ever agree to talking about that one?). But it's probably of more interest to musos and die hard fans. But really, it's a turning point in her career. Or is it? Are all her albums turning points? > > Selfishly, I'd love for her to be talking about THOSL but I guess without Henry Lewy around they might not get much footage. > > Much Joni on the Sunny Sunday > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:30:08 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon That reminds me... anybody seen the giant hard cover book that was on sale at Borders a while back, "Canyon of Dreams" ? I got it a while ago & have been reading it now & then, when I find time... lots of great stories & photos of the people who lived in and around Laurel Canyon back in the day (including Joni, of course). Compiled & published in 2009 by Harvey Kubernik. I had to laugh at the stories Pamela Des Barres and Nurik Wilde (two groupies) shared. One from Nurik: "We used to be the girls that would sit around and roll the joints and say, 'groovy!' ...when the guys were jamming together." Kenny B Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:51:56 -0600 From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: LEGENDS OF THE CANYON Thanks for the review Paz. I put Legends of the Canyon in my Queue behind the last DVD of Dexter and Sandpiper. I saw Rush in the 70's. All I remember is long hair blowing in the wind... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:03:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon Hi Kenny, I am still holding out on an email from Amazon that I received way back in September, advertising this book. Meaning: am have been in half a mind of buying it, but needed another nudge. It's on offer at #12 (down from #20). So would you recommend it? Do keep in mind I have already read (and enjoyed) Laurel Canyon, the Inside Story of Rock 'n Roll's Legendary Neighborhood, and Hotel California, so is there still anything to add? And by the way, who is the long haired female on the top left of the cover? I don't think it is Joni, as she is clearly shown in the top right corner, but I do wonder who it is then. All the best, Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: Ken To: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, 16 January, 2011 15:30:08 Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon That reminds me... anybody seen the giant hard cover book that was on sale at Borders a while back, "Canyon of Dreams" ? I got it a while ago & have been reading it now & then, when I find time... lots of great stories & photos of the people who lived in and around Laurel Canyon back in the day (including Joni, of course). Compiled & published in 2009 by Harvey Kubernik. I had to laugh at the stories Pamela Des Barres and Nurik Wilde (two groupies) shared. One from Nurik: "We used to be the girls that would sit around and roll the joints and say, 'groovy!' ...when the guys were jamming together." Kenny B Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:51:56 -0600 From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: LEGENDS OF THE CANYON Thanks for the review Paz. I put Legends of the Canyon in my Queue behind the last DVD of Dexter and Sandpiper. I saw Rush in the 70's. All I remember is long hair blowing in the wind... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:29:25 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon Lieve wrote: > > And by the way, who is the long haired female on the top > left of the cover? I > don't think it is Joni, as she is clearly shown in the top > right corner, but I > do wonder who it is then. > hi Lieve, I've had a good look at an enlarged size of the cover and have no clue who it might be. Perhaps someone will chime in and solve this little mystery! Mags ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:36:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon (books) Hi Lieve, I have the big hardback book Canyon of Dreams. It really is a must have. I also have the Walker paper back Laurel Canyon you are talking about. The big hardback book is different because it has awesome, large color photos and art of the time all through it. The text doesn't go into as much detail as Walker's book for the most part, but it tells interesting stories that go with the pictures, and the sections focusing on particular artists are easy to find as you flip through because of the large color photos. Joni is in the one titled, "Chatelaine of the Canyon," and although what is written about her isn't that enlightening if you've read other books about her, it is very good. Sections in Canyon of Dreams are easy to read sections out of sequence because they tend to be complete in and of themselves. I usually flip through to pictures that catch my eye and then read the text in that section. I think I'll put it on my coffee table now that I'm thinking about it again. It's a great coffee table book. Love, Laura ________________________________ From: Lieve Reckers To: Ken ; joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 10:03:24 AM Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon Hi Kenny, I am still holding out on an email from Amazon that I received way back in September, advertising this book. Meaning: am have been in half a mind of buying it, but needed another nudge. It's on offer at #12 (down from #20). So would you recommend it? Do keep in mind I have already read (and enjoyed) Laurel Canyon, the Inside Story of Rock 'n Roll's Legendary Neighborhood, and Hotel California, so is there still anything to add? And by the way, who is the long haired female on the top left of the cover? I don't think it is Joni, as she is clearly shown in the top right corner, but I do wonder who it is then. All the best, Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: Ken To: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, 16 January, 2011 15:30:08 Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon That reminds me... anybody seen the giant hard cover book that was on sale at Borders a while back, "Canyon of Dreams" ? I got it a while ago & have been reading it now & then, when I find time... lots of great stories & photos of the people who lived in and around Laurel Canyon back in the day (including Joni, of course). Compiled & published in 2009 by Harvey Kubernik. I had to laugh at the stories Pamela Des Barres and Nurik Wilde (two groupies) shared. One from Nurik: "We used to be the girls that would sit around and roll the joints and say, 'groovy!' ...when the guys were jamming together." Kenny B Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:51:56 -0600 From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: LEGENDS OF THE CANYON Thanks for the review Paz. I put Legends of the Canyon in my Queue behind the last DVD of Dexter and Sandpiper. I saw Rush in the 70's. All I remember is long hair blowing in the wind... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon p.s. Could it be Nurit Wilde, photographer? > > > > And by the way, who is the long haired female on the > top > > left of the cover? I > > don't think it is Joni, as she is clearly shown in the > top > > right corner, but I > > do wonder who it is then. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:38:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon now mystery solved re: Nurit Wilde Yes it is Nurit Wilde...haha talking to myself, answering my own questions! http://community.livejournal.com/vintagegroupies/162457.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:41:46 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: nurit wilde web site http://community.livejournal.com/vintagegroupies/162457.html There's a great photo of Joni Mitchell in Wilde's collection...and some other faces you might recognize ;-) Mags, done now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:50:24 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 These performances are magical. The BBC needs to release this entire concert on both cd and dvd (Blu-Ray would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath for that). Joni's scatting in 'Rainy Night House' and 'You Turn Me On (I'm a Radio)' is stellar in both of the clips on YouTube although it's a shame the video cuts off before she finishes on You Turn Me on. But here are the links anyway in case anybody hasn't found them or seen them yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6NaI-PY9XU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk_vpY0IFms&feature=related Mark in Seattle where practically all eyes on Chicago today in one way or another. - -----Original Message----- From: Lieve Reckers Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:10 AM To: John McGloin ; Michael quebec ; jonilist JMDL Cc: lesirvin@gmail.com Subject: Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Lucky you, John! I was hoping someone would pipe up and say (s)he was there! I looked up the New Victoria Theatre, it is now called the Apollo Victoria theatre and is the home of the show Wicked. Apparently it can accommodate over 2300 people, including standing spaces, so that's quite big. Any further memories you can throw in would be very welcome. I bet, a complete recording would be fantastic, but I hope you had a good look at all the Youtube clips posted by this Wilfrid guy. There are really quite a few of them, and some of them are double anyway (2 songs), so I think you could easily retrace about 10 songs. I looked up what there was on the Jonimitchel.com library, and I can only find a clip of People's Parties. The text says: "From a performance at the New Victoria Theater. Joni appears on stage with her acoustic guitar. This concert was videotaped and broadcast on the BBC's Old Grey Whistle Test on November 19, 1974" I am copying Les in case he can include the other clips too. All the best, Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: John McGloin To: Lieve Reckers ; Michael quebec ; jonilist JMDL Sent: Sun, 16 January, 2011 1:32:09 Subject: RE: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Hi Lieve I remember that day well. I was at the New Victoria Theatre, seeing Joni in a new light with her work with the LA Express. It was around the time I was getting into jazz and Joni soared in my estimation. I'd would love to be able to get hold of a complete recording of that concert Cheers John - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lieve Reckers Sent: 15 January 2011 22:56 To: Michael quebec; jonilist JMDL Subject: Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Wonderful stuff, Michael! The guy who posted it (Wilfrid the Siger) must have recorded the whole show (London's New Victoria Theatre, 22 April 1974), he's posted it in several parts, other songs such as For the Roses, Blue, Help Me and others are also there. My goodness, how I wish I could have been there, it would have made a wonderful 20th birthday present for the next day! But instead I was travelling through Europe on an Interrail card, I think I actually spent my birthday in Crete, but no not in Matala, to be honest, but in a village called Mallia (which in those days was still unspoilt but is now completely ruined by the tourist trade). Anybody else remember where they were on that day? Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael quebec To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sat, 15 January, 2011 22:10:44 Subject: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Hi, Some of you know that I'm a huge fan of Joni's piano tunes. Well, I was cruzin Youtube today and I came across a fella who does some wonderful Joni covers (search Youtube for Cuzandeffect), and through him I found this Joni footage from a 1974 concert. This has to be the best live Joni footage I've ever seen, on par with the Pink Dress Concert. She seems so relaxed here and is absolutely at the top of her game. Her piano playing is a marvel to watch. Treat yourself to a double bill of Same Situation and Just Like This Train, with the LA Express, in London. Superb stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPrsOn_TsqI Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:42:32 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Fw: Facebook Ok, hopefully this will be my last post on this subject but things occur to me as time goes on so who knows. If I read any derogatory comments about people on the listserv who are not part of the Facebook group, the Facebook group goes away. I do not want any part of people talking behind other people's backs. Not that anybody would do such a thing. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 3:10 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Facebook There is one more thing I meant to say in this post. I would hope that information or discussion that would normally be posted to the listserv *is* getting posted on the listserv. Information about Jonifests, concerts, etc. should be posted here, in my very humble opinion. If you do put this type of information on the Facebook group, please, please, please have the courtesy to post it here as well. The listserv goes out to far more people than have been added to the Facebook group and I would not want them to be left out of the information or opinions or discussions or what have you that have always been posted here, on the JMDL listserv in the past. I'm still kind of ignorant as to how the Facebook group works. If members of the group have to be invited and you're feeling left out, email me off list and let me know how to find you on Facebook and I'll send you an invite. Again, I'm still not sure if that's the way it works. Somebody jump in and let me know if I've got it all wrong. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:27 PM To: Paul Castle ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni Mastermind and Facebook Well I'm a bit embarrassed. I misunderstood at least 2 of the questions that I knew the answers to and I also couldn't think of the name of the painting or the bay. So I only got 8 right. I guess the Facebook controversy has pretty much blown over but I would like to say a couple of things about it. As you know by now, the JMDL Facebook group was created purely by accident when I inadvertently created 'Groups' on my Facebook page when what I really wanted to do was create 'Lists'. I did not intend to create something that would damage or compete with the listserv. I also had not asked Les if he had a problem with a JMDL Facebook group. Les, if you feel the FB Group is a detriment to the list or if you feel the name 'JMDL' is an infringement, please let me know. As I said, I never intended to compete with or take away from the listserv and if I stepped on your toes I apologize. But now that the thing exists, many people seem to have embraced it. I am perfectly willing to keep it up and running as long as Les doesn't have a problem with it and there is no overwhelming consensus that it is harmful to the listserv. I don't know if it's possible or necessary but if anybody feels that it should be put to a vote, maybe that could be arranged somehow. I understand and respect the concerns that have been expressed. But so far, it seems the listserv is thriving (there may even be a bit more activity of late) and people who are posting to the Facebook group are enjoying having the space to put that kind of information. I apologize for taking so long to write this and I hope I'm not unnecessarily re-opening a can of worms. But I feel I had to set the record straight and at least give Les a chance to have a say. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Paul Castle Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 5:15 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni Mastermind Hope this works! I'd be interested to know how you get on - remember, you only have one shot at it - and you've got to imagine several million people are watching you on live television! best to all PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:06:11 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon (books) Laura is right; this book is different from the others (which I also have) and IMHO, a "must have." What I particularly like is the many candid recollections from people who were there- besides those who would become the big stars- so you get the point of view of the average hippie-in-the-street, so to speak, in addition to the musicians (many of which have already told their stories before). That girl on the upper left front cover is, indeed, Nurit Wilde (now there's a unique name, isn't it?) and she's prominently featured in the section, A lot of young girls are coming to this canyon " as well as other chapters. Another girl was Djinn Ruffner (where did these girls get these names!?) Kenny B - -----Original Message----- From: Lc Stanley To: Lieve Reckers ; Ken ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Sun, Jan 16, 2011 12:36 pm Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon (books) Hi Lieve, I have the big hardback book Canyon of Dreams. It really is a must have. I also have the Walker paper back Laurel Canyon you are talking about. The big hardback book is different because it has awesome, large color photos and art of the time all through it. The text doesn't go into as much detail as Walker's book for the most part, but it tells interesting stories that go with the pictures, and the sections focusing on particular artists are easy to find as you flip through because of the large color photos. Joni is in the one titled, "Chatelaine of the Canyon," and although what is written about her isn't that enlightening if you've read other books about her, it is very good. Sections in Canyon of Dreams are easy to read sections out of sequence because they tend to be complete in and of themselves. I usually flip through to pictures that catch my eye and then read the text in that section. I think I'll put it on my coffee table now that I'm thinking about it again. It's a great coffee table book. Love, Laura From: Lieve Reckers To: Ken ; joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 10:03:24 AM Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon Hi Kenny, I am still holding out on an email from Amazon that I received way back in September, advertising this book. Meaning: am have been in half a mind of buying it, but needed another nudge. It's on offer at #12 (down from #20). So would you recommend it? Do keep in mind I have already read (and enjoyed) Laurel Canyon, the Inside Story of Rock 'n Roll's Legendary Neighborhood, and Hotel California, so is there still anything to add? And by the way, who is the long haired female on the top left of the cover? I don't think it is Joni, as she is clearly shown in the top right corner, but I do wonder who it is then. All the best, Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: Ken To: joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, 16 January, 2011 15:30:08 Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon That reminds me... anybody seen the giant hard cover book that was on sale at Borders a while back, "Canyon of Dreams" ? I got it a while ago & have been reading it now & then, when I find time... lots of great stories & photos of the people who lived in and around Laurel Canyon back in the day (including Joni, of course). Compiled & published in 2009 by Harvey Kubernik. I had to laugh at the stories Pamela Des Barres and Nurik Wilde (two groupies) shared. One from Nurik: "We used to be the girls that would sit around and roll the joints and say, 'groovy!' ...when the guys were jamming together." Kenny B Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:51:56 -0600 From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: LEGENDS OF THE CANYON Thanks for the review Paz. I put Legends of the Canyon in my Queue behind the last DVD of Dexter and Sandpiper. I saw Rush in the 70's. All I remember is long hair blowing in the wind... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:04:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon now mystery solved re: Nurit Wilde Thanks very much for your detective work, Mags! And thanks Laura and Kenny for the further info and recommendations. I guess that September email from Amazon will turn into an order soon! Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Mags To: Ken ; joni@smoe.org; sillyseabird7@yahoo.com; Lieve Reckers Sent: Sun, 16 January, 2011 17:38:44 Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon now mystery solved re: Nurit Wilde Yes it is Nurit Wilde...haha talking to myself, answering my own questions! http://community.livejournal.com/vintagegroupies/162457.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:39:40 +0000 From: joe farrell Subject: re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Lieve, I remember i was back at work in Manchester, where i live,having seen Joni at the New Victoria Theatre on the Saturday 20th April and Sunday 21st 1974. I couldn't get Monday, 22nd, off work so we travelled back home overnight on the Sunday and went straight to work, no sleep but totally high on adrenaline at least that's what i think it was. My efficiency and effectiveness at work was definitely compromised but it was worth it, and by the time i left work on Monday evening i felt like i had travelled through Europe. Amazing shows that still linger in the memory. I wish this was available on DVD it looks remarkable. How about a campaign to get it released? Regards, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:29:02 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Hi Lieve and Joe! Talk about rolling back the years - goodness me, dear Lieve, it was another Joni concert I was at. And it's just amazing to me, Joe, to 'meet' someone else who was also there. It never ceases to amaze me, this internet thing that brings folk together. I never thought I'd see this after so many years. My BIG hope is that someone, somewhere will trun up a dvd of Edmonton Folk Festival in 1994 (or 3) to see as well. I'd love to see that,too. Having said that, I remember my own experience of this particular gig was of disappointment because I so loved the Joni I knew of 1970, on her own, tuning her guitar for ever and ever, but making you feel like she was playing in your front room just for you. I hated it when she brought Jackson Brown along, let alone a whole band. However, the music overcame all that and I stayed a fan. While I'm at it, a belated Happy New Year to all. I have been so wrapped up in caring for my poor ol' Mum that I just don't have time to contribute much. However, I hope you all know how much I love you guys and send my very best for 2011, Hugs and love Anita On 16 January 2011 21:39, joe farrell wrote: > Lieve, > > I remember i was back at work in Manchester, where i live,having seen Joni > at the New Victoria Theatre on the Saturday 20th April and Sunday 21st 1974. > I couldn't get Monday, 22nd, off work so we travelled back home overnight on > the Sunday and went straight to work, no sleep but totally high on > adrenaline at least that's what i think it was. > > My efficiency and effectiveness at work was definitely compromised but it > was worth it, and by the time i left work on Monday evening i felt like i > had travelled through Europe. > > Amazing shows that still linger in the memory. I wish this was available on > DVD it looks remarkable. How about a campaign to get it released? > > Regards, > > Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:51:13 +0000 From: joe farrell Subject: Re: Same Situation Youtube 1974 Hi Anita, Thanks for the message. Happy New Year to you too. Yes i can totally relate to your experience at the gig i too had seen Joni in her solo persona so the whole band thing took some getting used to. There was initially a sense of disappointment, certainly on the first night, but on the Sunday night i was definitely more into what Joni was doing. We have all over the years had to go with the changes and accept that this is what makes her such a uniquely talented and interesting musician. Her refusal to compromise her artistic integrity has lead to some amazing music and personally while i have not always understood what she was trying to do she has never failed to capture my imagination and keep me guessing. Hope your mum is feeling better soon.Take care. Regards, Joe. On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Anita G wrote: > Hi Lieve and Joe! > Talk about rolling back the years - goodness me, dear Lieve, it was > another Joni concert I was at. And it's just amazing to me, Joe, to > 'meet' someone else who was also there. It never ceases to amaze me, > this internet thing that brings folk together. I never thought I'd see > this after so many years. My BIG hope is that someone, somewhere will > trun up a dvd of Edmonton Folk Festival in 1994 (or 3) to see as well. > I'd love to see that,too. > > Having said that, I remember my own experience of this particular gig > was of disappointment because I so loved the Joni I knew of 1970, on > her own, tuning her guitar for ever and ever, but making you feel like > she was playing in your front room just for you. I hated it when she > brought Jackson Brown along, let alone a whole band. However, the > music overcame all that and I stayed a fan. > > While I'm at it, a belated Happy New Year to all. I have been so > wrapped up in caring for my poor ol' Mum that I just don't have time > to contribute much. However, I hope you all know how much I love you > guys and send my very best for 2011, > Hugs and love > Anita > > On 16 January 2011 21:39, joe farrell > wrote: > > Lieve, > > > > I remember i was back at work in Manchester, where i live,having seen > Joni > > at the New Victoria Theatre on the Saturday 20th April and Sunday 21st > 1974. > > I couldn't get Monday, 22nd, off work so we travelled back home overnight > on > > the Sunday and went straight to work, no sleep but totally high on > > adrenaline at least that's what i think it was. > > > > My efficiency and effectiveness at work was definitely compromised but it > > was worth it, and by the time i left work on Monday evening i felt like i > > had travelled through Europe. > > > > Amazing shows that still linger in the memory. I wish this was available > on > > DVD it looks remarkable. How about a campaign to get it released? > > > > Regards, > > > > Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:29:42 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: Facebook Dear Mark, Even though you created the group by mistake, I have loved it. Just to see old friends post on the FB JMDL is wonderful. Julius's "Starry Night" paintings, and Rob's newest video which cracked me up this morning. If there are anymore derogotary remarks on here, and you decide to take it down, I'm going to just put it back up. It's their loss!!!!! This list will still go on, but why not expand? Some people are just running behind the times, just like this old train. Jimmy In a message dated 1/16/2011 2:48:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, mark.travis@frontier.com writes: > Ok, hopefully this will be my last post on this subject but things occur > to > me as time goes on so who knows. > > If I read any derogatory comments about people on the listserv who are not > > part of the Facebook group, the Facebook group goes away. I do not want > any > part of people talking behind other people's backs. > > Not that anybody would do such a thing. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:08:51 -0600 From: T Peckham Subject: Golden Globes/The Kids Are Alright Annette Bening just won for best actress (over her co-star, Julianne Moore). I haven't seen the film yet--I hope it has more nominations and wins and that brings more publicity to the film. - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:58:39 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Fw: Facebook > Some people are just running behind the times, just like this old train. Holy shit, is this discussion still so heated? Look, it's my fault. I was overzealous when I added all my FB/JMDL friends (I already had everyone in a convenient category in my Friends list) to Mark's group. I should have asked questions first. I apologize. Otherwise, I love the thing and plan to be *there* and *here*. Lori Santa Rosa, CA www.facebook.com/lrfye ;~P ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:14:12 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Facebook Hi Jimmy, I didn't say there were any derogatory remarks. It was purely hypothetical. I just don't want to see that kind of thing happen and people's feelings get hurt. And Lori, I don't think we're getting heated here. I just expressed a concern and let people know where I stand. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: FMYFL@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 3:29 PM To: mark.travis@frontier.com ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Fw: Facebook Dear Mark, Even though you created the group by mistake, I have loved it. Just to see old friends post on the FB JMDL is wonderful. Julius's "Starry Night" paintings, and Rob's newest video which cracked me up this morning. If there are anymore derogotary remarks on here, and you decide to take it down, I'm going to just put it back up. It's their loss!!!!! This list will still go on, but why not expand? Some people are just running behind the times, just like this old train. Jimmy In a message dated 1/16/2011 2:48:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, mark.travis@frontier.com writes: Ok, hopefully this will be my last post on this subject but things occur to me as time goes on so who knows. If I read any derogatory comments about people on the listserv who are not part of the Facebook group, the Facebook group goes away. I do not want any part of people talking behind other people's backs. Not that anybody would do such a thing. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #16 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe