From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #9 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, January 11 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 009 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Facebook (some JC in the last point, I think) [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Facebook (some JC in the last point, I think) [Lc Stanley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:52:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Facebook (some JC in the last point, I think) Very true, Kate, but Facebook seems to make people feel that the rules are different. They become more careless. Besides, it is just too much of a bother to keep setting up all those rules on FB, I know this from people who use it, they just end up thinking "What the hell, I don't care if so-and-so reads the info I put out there even though it isn't really meant for them." And the result is that in the end everybody knows everything, whether it is their business or not and whether the original person is really happy about them knowing. I think this erodes the way we have related to each other for centuries, and we are just sleepwalking into it. But since most people don't really care and they have the right to not care, I know I will never win the argument and that is OK, as long as I can choose to stay out of it myself. My point about the JMDL is VERY different and separate from the above point. This is where I really rub my eyes and wonder how naive people can be! It is so obvious that discussions have moved from this list to FB, how can anyone ignore that it is weakening this list? (For instance, I have heard about a Joni doll being discussed, and another thread about Kilauren.) My original comment was and remains: either people keep moving those topics to FB without having a parallel discussion here, which penalises people like me who don't want to join BF and which will slowly make this list irrelevant and dormant, or they remember their loyalty to this list and do something about it! I'm not saying everybody has to stick to this list because I am here and would like them to, I am just asking them to be honest and aware of what they are doing! Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Kate Johnson To: Catherine McKay Cc: Lieve Reckers ; shadows and light ; T Peckham ; JMDL ; lori.fye@gmail.com; Bob.Muller@fluor.com; scjoniguy@yahoo.com; kakki Sent: Mon, 10 January, 2011 5:15:51 Subject: Re: Facebook (some JC in the last point, I think) On 9-Jan-11, at 7:23 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > So, I think the thing is that you have to > constantly think about what you're saying and doing there, realizing that > potentially any comment you make or any picture you post could be accessible to > a lot more peole than you realize. This is the case using any Internet tools. One should never forget it. Kate http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com Stubblejumpin' Gal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:57:49 +0000 From: Paul Castle Subject: Re: Joni Mastermind Sam Stone wrote: > These files don't seem to work--I got this notification: > "This content is currently unavailable. Please contact the content owner for > more information." > > Do you know what might have gone wrong? Sorry about that Sam - looks like the large number of viewers has taken it over the monthly bandwidth allowance on that Screencast account - try on these links - Mastermind 1 (without answers) http://www.screencast.com/t/ZtK7X6uX or Mastermind 2 http://www.screencast.com/t/GmLg3cm6D6Zy very best PaulC NP 'Amarante' by double bassist Michel Benita (with Andy Sheppard on sax and Sylvain Luc on acoustic guitar) - http://blip.fm/~10iekv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:32:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Re: Facebook (some JC in the last point, I think) Lieve wrote: It is s obvious that discussions have moved from this list to FB, how can anyone ignore that it is weakening this list? (For instance, I have heard about a Joni doll being discussed, and another thread about Kilauren.) Hi Lieve, Discussions? ... more like short comments under photos. FB isn't a discussion list. It is for visual media like photos and videos, which is why it is called "face"book. Below are some of the comments under the doll photo on FB. They don't make much sense if you can't see the photo above the comments. I'm of the opinion that the best criticism or most meaningful expression of fear of something occurs when one has personal experience with it. Passing on criticism and fear formulated based on hearsay seems like gossip. Love, Laura * Suze Cameron Bring on the nightmares! Saturday at 8:52am B7 Like B7 2 people * Jimmy Stewart Looks like the girl in "The Bad Seed". Saturday at 9:24am B7 Like B7 1 person * Tim Doherty From a cellar full of freaked out dolls? Saturday at 9:32am B7 Like B7 2 people * Em Alvarez needs a dose of "the best facelift", I think.... Saturday at 10:02am B7 Like B7 1 person * Catherine McKay Scarrrrrrrrry! Plus I doubt Joni ever wore a dress like that. Saturday at 10:58am B7 Like * Chuck Eisenhardt i have a Chucky doll who wants to get to know her Saturday at 11:20am B7 Like B7 3 people * Mark Scott Where's the cigarette? Saturday at 2:05pm B7 Like B7 2 people * Jimmy Stewart b@Mark, makes me want to sing "I've written a letter to Daddy". Saturday at 4:45pm B7 Like B7 1 person * Laura Stanley If you pull the string does it sing: "Pins me in a corner, and he won't take no..." Yesterday at 7:41am B7 Like B7 1 person * Monika Bogdanowicz I'm pretty creeped out right now. 23 hours ago B7 Like B7 1 person * Catherine McKay b@Laura. Pins. Literally. The thing is, the face does look like Joni, but a very sour Joni, possibly a dead Joni, but the body with that little-girl party dress on, does not. So, the whole effect is garish and creepy. It reminds me more of some really bizarre thing you might find some weirdo selling on E-Bay than on somthing that's supposed to be "art," whatever the heck that is. 22 hours ago B7 Like * Chuck Eisenhardt Cullen = Kathleen Cullen Gallery in NYC. I am not recommending a visit there necessarily, nor do I think my having looked around her site shed any light on understanding this 'construction. Though it did gross me out way-further... 22 hours ago B7 Like * Chuck Eisenhardt I'm goin' back to the Betty White' Birthday site (big 89!) 22 hours ago B7 Like * Chuck Eisenhardt I definitely thing Bob should run a contest based on Laura's comment... 'Pull the string and it sings ....(?)' 22 hours ago via B7 Like * Mark Scott http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--RI7tlWuaM 15 hours ago B7 Like * Mark Scott For you, Jimmy. 15 hours ago B7 Like * Catherine McKay OMG, Mark! You are so right! 14 hours ago B7 Like * Jimmy Stewart I love it Mark. "Whatever Happened to Baby Joan". 14 hours ago B7 Like B7 1 person * Mark Scott Jimmy thought of it. Read further up, Catherine. 14 hours ago B7 Like * Sue Tierney McNamara I haven't been so scared since I searched "Corn Husk Dolls" on ebay!!!! 39 minutes ago B7 Like * Chuck Eisenhardt Wait!! I just obtained a copy of the exhibition catalog from the Cullen Gallery - Here's the description: 26 minutes ago B7 Like * Chuck Eisenhardt b'Liberation Doll' - American, 2010. mixed media including beheaded Kewpie doll, beeswax, lipstick. Sanjay Gupta, b.1976 23 minutes ago B7 Like ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:41:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Facebook (some JC in the last point, I think) Laura, I'm not in the habit of gossiping. You want experience?B Well, a next Jonifest being discussed on FB but not on this list, seems relevant experience. But anyway, I am tired of this subject.B People hear and understand what they want to hear and understand. Lieve ________________________________ From: Lc Stanley To: Lieve Reckers ; Kate Johnson ; Catherine McKay Cc: shadows and light ; T Peckham ; JMDL ; lori.fye@gmail.com; Bob.Muller@fluor.com; scjoniguy@yahoo.com; kakki Sent: Mon, 10 January, 2011 15:32:54 Subject: Re: Facebook (some JC in the last point, I think) Lieve wrote: It is sB obvious that discussions have moved from this list to FB, how can anyone ignore that it is weakening this list?B (For instance, I have heard about a Joni doll being discussed, and another thread about Kilauren.) B Hi Lieve, Discussions? B ... more like short comments underB photos. B FB isn't a discussion list. B It is for visual media like photos and videos, which is why it is called "face"book. B Below are some of the comments under the doll photo on FB. B They don't make much sense if you can't see the photo above the comments. B I'm of the opinion that the bestB criticism or most meaningful expression of fear of something occurs when one hasB personal experience with it. B Passing on criticism and fear formulated based on hearsay seems like gossip.B Love, Laura * Suze CameronB Bring on the nightmares! Saturday at 8:52am B B7B LikeB B7B B 2 people * Jimmy StewartB Looks like the girl in "The Bad Seed". Saturday at 9:24am B B7B LikeB B7B B 1 person * Tim DohertyB From a cellar full of freaked out dolls? Saturday at 9:32am B B7B LikeB B7B B 2 people * Em AlvarezB needs a dose of "the best facelift", I think.... Saturday at 10:02am B B7B LikeB B7B B 1 person * Catherine McKayB Scarrrrrrrrry! Plus I doubt Joni ever wore a dress like that. Saturday at 10:58am B B7B Like * Chuck EisenhardtB i have a Chucky doll who wants to get to know her Saturday at 11:20am B B7B LikeB B7B B 3 people * Mark ScottB Where's the cigarette? Saturday at 2:05pm B B7B LikeB B7B B 2 people * Jimmy StewartB b@Mark, makes me want to sing "I've written a letter to Daddy". Saturday at 4:45pm B B7B LikeB B7B B 1 person * Laura StanleyB If you pull the string does it sing: "Pins me in a corner, and he won't take no..." Yesterday at 7:41am B B7B LikeB B7B B 1 person * Monika BogdanowiczB I'm pretty creeped out right now. 23 hours ago B B7B LikeB B7B B 1 person * Catherine McKayB b@Laura. Pins. Literally. The thing is, the face does look like Joni, but a very sour Joni, possibly a dead Joni, but the body with that little-girl party dress on, does not. So, the whole effect is garish and creepy. It reminds me more of some really bizarre thing you might find some weirdo selling on E-Bay than on somthing that's supposed to be "art," whatever the heck that is. 22 hours ago B B7B Like * Chuck EisenhardtB Cullen = Kathleen Cullen Gallery in NYC. I am not recommending a visit there necessarily, nor do I think my having looked around her site shed any light on understanding this 'construction. Though it did gross me out way-further... 22 hours ago B B7B Like * Chuck EisenhardtB I'm goin' back to the Betty White' Birthday site (big 89!) 22 hours ago B B7B Like * Chuck EisenhardtB I definitely thing Bob should run a contest based on Laura's comment... 'Pull the string and it sings ....(?)' 22 hours ago B viaB B B7B Like * Mark ScottB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--RI7tlWuaM 15 hours ago B B7B Like * Mark ScottB For you, Jimmy. 15 hours ago B B7B Like * Catherine McKayB OMG, Mark! You are so right! 14 hours ago B B7B Like * Jimmy StewartB I love it Mark. "Whatever Happened to Baby Joan". 14 hours ago B B7B LikeB B7B B 1 person * Mark ScottB Jimmy thought of it. Read further up, Catherine. 14 hours ago B B7B Like * Sue Tierney McNamaraB I haven't been so scared since I searched "Corn Husk Dolls" on ebay!!!! 39 minutes ago B B7B Like * Chuck EisenhardtB Wait!! I just obtained a copy of the exhibition catalog from the Cullen Gallery - Here's the description: 26 minutes ago B B7B Like * Chuck EisenhardtB b'Liberation Doll' - American, 2010. mixed media including beheaded Kewpie doll, beeswax, lipstick. Sanjay Gupta, b.1976 23 minutes ago B B7B Like ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:05:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Facebook and Jonifest Hi Ya'll, Was there a Jonifest being planned on FB? Or was it just a hope for a future Jonifest? I'm on FB, but I didn't see anything about this. Would somebody who has seen it please copy and paste it into email to the list or tell me where to look for it on FB? Love, Laura ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2011 #9 ******************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe