From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #351 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, December 23 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 351 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Random Joni moments [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 [Stdoherty ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] River - Regis - and Sarah McLachlan [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Re: now Tenth World [Em ] Re: River - Regis - and Sarah McLachlan [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: now Tenth World [Dave Blackburn ] Re: now Tenth World [Catherine McKay ] Re: now Tenth World [Em ] Re: now Tenth World [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: now Tenth World [Em ] Re: now Tenth World [Catherine McKay ] DJRD: A Perfect Work [Russell Bowden ] Re: DJRD: A Perfect Work [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: DJRD: A Perfect Work [Merk54@aol.com] Re: DJRD: A Perfect Work [Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com] Re: now Tenth World [Stdoherty ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:38:58 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Random Joni moments Thanks Russell for that Joni insight. I love discovering little gems like that. Music that is layered brings me coming back to hear new things every time. Joni's music is like that. I will listen out for that next time I play MSP. I love the irony she places in her songs. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 05:59:55 -0500 From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 I think I agree - but why does the Tenth World always get a ribbing? I really like it and have always found it one of the most listenable on this album. A forecast of what other musicians might sample in the next few years. I know you have that thing for DJRD, but isn't it a stretch to call it her ost "listenable" work? - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Wed, Dec 22, 2010 3:00 am Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, December 22 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 350 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - ------- New Library item: The Very Private Joni Mitchell [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.c] Mingus Concert [Gerald Notaro ] Random Joni moments [Russell Bowden ] Re: Random Joni moments [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] JMDL Hub [Sam Stone ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:59:44 -0700 (MST) rom: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com ubject: New Library item: The Very Private Joni Mitchell Title: The Very Private Joni Mitchell Publication: Toronto Star Date: 1979.8.15 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2331 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:45:41 -0500 rom: Gerald Notaro ubject: Mingus Concert Some Joni mention in the excellent concert summary. Charles Mingus Concert Apollo Theatre (New York, NY) Date: 7.03.1973 http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/charles-mingus/concerts/apollo-theatre-july-03- 1973.html?utm_source=NL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=101221 erry - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:29:39 -0800 rom: Russell Bowden ubject: Random Joni moments Gang, ad a very nice deep listen to DJRD yesterday...It never ceases to grab me by hroat and rattle my cage...all in a good way. I love EVERY MINUTE of it. I uess I'd say it's her most perfect and listenable work. n to Chalk Mark...you know what I really love about 'My Secret Place'? It's ust a split second thing when she sings 'girl meets desperado' and you hear er back-up voice sing 'Uh-oh' (like...Here comes trouble!) on the last 2 ylables: rah-doe. Magical, simply Magical! K...That's it. Happy Holidays...whichever ones you're celebrating. ove, uss in Alameda, CA otto voce - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:52:14 -0500 rom: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com ubject: Re: Random Joni moments I know you have that thing for DJRD, but isn't it a stretch to call it her ost "listenable" work? I mean, it requires quite a bit of effort to soak in the ENTIRE Paprika lains, not to mention "Tenth World" which is pretty much just pure rhythm or almost 7 minutes. It's brilliant to be sure, but in terms of istenability it's hard not to vote against C&S for pure ear candy that ust effortlessly shifts from one accessible track to the next. Just my thoughts on the matter... Bob NP: Bobby D, "Simple Twist Of Fate" ------------------------------------------------------------ he information transmitted is intended only for the person r entity to which it is addressed and may contain roprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. f you are not the intended recipient of this message you are ereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, istribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon his message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please ontact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual ender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:14:42 -0500 rom: Sam Stone ubject: JMDL Hub Hi JMDLers! I read on an old website that there used to be a JMDL DC++ Hub. Is it still unctional? What used to be on it? And, most importantly, where do I sign up or it? Thanks! am - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 ******************************** - ------- ost messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org nsubscribe by clicking here: ailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:12:24 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 I wouldn't say I gave it a RIBBING, Tim, I was just commenting on the listenability of it. I've commented before that it's my favorite Joni song to run to, but as far as just sitting down and listening to it, it's certainly not as easy to do as the majority of the balance of her work. Besides running on a bit too long, it's lacking something to hold my interest, whether it's some other musical color that shifts chords or something. And it's not like you can sing along or even really understand or get into it lyrically. OK, dance the rumba...I get it. All right, NOW you can say I gave it a little ribbing. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "S-E-X-X-Y" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:19:57 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: River - Regis - and Sarah McLachlan Anyone else catch Sarah singing Joni's River on LIVE with Regis and Kelly? Regis introduced the song as a "special version of Joni Mitchell's River". Found a clip of it here. http://livewithregis.com/ Click on Video at the top of the page and then the dropdown words "Performances". You'll come to a page that size The Live Stage. Sarah's video is the second one down. (and Annie Lennox video is underneath it). Enjoy! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:21:28 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: now Tenth World "Tenth World" pops onto my iPod at work (when in shuffle mode) pretty often, for some reason. Since I have other afro-cuban-ish stuff on there too, it always takes me a few seconds to realize what I'm listening to. It doesn't sound like a Joni Mitchell track (duh). But as an afro-cuban or (not sure what else to call it) rumba track...it's absolutely MOLTEN, right? I guess what surprises me about it is that it's not diluted, at all. I'm no expert in this type of music, but I'm thinking "Tenth World" is really well done. But I could be wrong! (because like I said I'm no expert) Anybody have any opinion on "Tenth World" as it fits into whatever you'd call the genre it actually IS? Like I have some Ray Barreto on my iPod, some of that is vaguely comparable and then what immediately comes to mind is that old Santana (and others') track "Para Los Rumberos". Listened to completely separate from any other Joni content, and if you were not familiar with the cut, is there ANY way to identify that cut as a Joni Mitchell track? like some instrument or player that just sounds "Joni" - even if it is subtle? LOL! Makes me wish I were home so I could give it a detailed listen. :) Em - --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 To: "Stdoherty" Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 8:12 AM I wouldn't say I gave it a RIBBING, Tim, I was just commenting on the listenability of it. I've commented before that it's my favorite Joni song to run to, but as far as just sitting down and listening to it, it's certainly not as easy to do as the majority of the balance of her work. Besides running on a bit too long, it's lacking something to hold my interest, whether it's some other musical color that shifts chords or something. And it's not like you can sing along or even really understand or get into it lyrically. OK, dance the rumba...I get it. All right, NOW you can say I gave it a little ribbing. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "S-E-X-X-Y" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:25:46 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: River - Regis - and Sarah McLachlan Thanks for that, Laura - Sarah's recording of River was huge. Spawned as many covers as Counting Crows' take on BYT. Bob NP: See above - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:39:46 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: now Tenth World As a drummer, I have put some time into studying Afro Cuban music and how the layers of rhythms fit together, so, though no expert, I have some experience hearing and playing it. The Tenth World seems to me a fantastic track, that Joni generously "gives" to the band. By this point all the members of Weather Report except Josef Zawinul were working with Joni and 1977 was the year of their landmark album "Heavy Weather". Their rhythm section of Alex Acuna, Manolo Badrena and Jaco Pastorius, augmented by Jaco's friend Don Alias (who played congas on his debut LP "Jaco Pastorius") was at the top of their game that year, and Joni was likely in awe of their playing and authentic roots; plus, she loves to dance, and no doubt could really feel the sinewy slither of Brazilian and Cuban grooves in her bones, thus including The Tenth World and a worldbeat makeover of Dreamland on the album. I think DJRD really is the missing link between Joni the songwriter working from a rock/folk tradition and fronting the band on the one hand, and Joni the jazz explorer letting everyone in the band shine on the other. There wouldn't have much she could contribute to this track, perhaps feeling like she was really "a long long way from Canada" but knew it was killer music nonetheless. I agree that it is perhaps too long a detour from the "songs" on the album, but considerably shorter than many Afro Cuban excursions can run. It also fits into the "native" theme of the album very well; Paprika Plains with its native American vignettes, Dreamland down in Brazil, The Tenth World in Cuba, even Cotton Avenue up in Harlem. Dave On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:21 AM, Em wrote: > "Tenth World" pops onto my iPod at work (when in shuffle mode) pretty often, > for some reason. Since I have other afro-cuban-ish stuff on there too, it > always takes me a few seconds to realize what I'm listening to. > > It doesn't sound like a Joni Mitchell track (duh). > > But as an afro-cuban or (not sure what else to call it) rumba track...it's > absolutely MOLTEN, right? I guess what surprises me about it is that it's not > diluted, at all. > I'm no expert in this type of music, but I'm thinking "Tenth World" is really > well done. > But I could be wrong! (because like I said I'm no expert) > > Anybody have any opinion on "Tenth World" as it fits into whatever you'd call > the genre it actually IS? > > Like I have some Ray Barreto on my iPod, some of that is vaguely comparable > and then what immediately comes to mind is that old Santana (and others') > track "Para Los Rumberos". > > Listened to completely separate from any other Joni content, and if you were > not familiar with the cut, is there ANY way to identify that cut as a Joni > Mitchell track? like some instrument or player that just sounds "Joni" - even > if it is subtle? > LOL! Makes me wish I were home so I could give it a detailed listen. > > :) > Em > > --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 > To: "Stdoherty" > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 8:12 AM > > > > I wouldn't say I gave it a RIBBING, Tim, I was just commenting on the > listenability of it. I've commented before that it's my favorite Joni song > to run to, but as far as just sitting down and listening to it, it's > certainly not as easy to do as the majority of the balance of her work. > Besides running on a bit too long, it's lacking something to hold my > interest, whether it's some other musical color that shifts chords or > something. And it's not like you can sing along or even really understand > or get into it lyrically. OK, dance the rumba...I get it. > > All right, NOW you can say I gave it a little ribbing. > > Bob > > NP: They Might Be Giants, "S-E-X-X-Y" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:41:54 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: now Tenth World I am absolutely NOT an expert on this stuff, but it definitely sounds Cuban to me, just based on various Cuban music (I guess that would actually be Afro-Cuban, for that matter, because there is a definite African sound as well) that I have listened to. I love this track. I don't think it sounds even remotely Joni, except for her vocals wafting in and out, so I wonder if Don Alias is more responsible for it - sort of an extended Don Alias percussion solo that links "Otis and Marlene with "Dreamland". "Otis and Marlene" is set in Miami, where people come for "sun and fun" and to escape reality (both the political, where "Muslims stick up Washington" and the physical ravages of age described as "Slippers ... shuffling into folding chairs" and "Freckled hands ...shuffling cards" and people who "jiggle into surgery. Hopefully beneath the blade, They dream of golden beauty.") this song ends with "Dream on, dream on, dream on..." and segues into the dream itself, which is "The Tenth World." At the other end is "Dreamland," which brings you out of the dream, although Joni, pushing the recline button down wants to say in that world, instead of coming back six-foot drifts on Myrtle's lawn (and Myrtle never did approve of Joni's fancy-free lifestyle of moving from man to man, shacked up without a license.) - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Em > To: Stdoherty ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 9:21:28 AM > Subject: Re: now Tenth World > > "Tenth World" pops onto my iPod at work (when in shuffle mode) pretty often, > for some reason. Since I have other afro-cuban-ish stuff on there too, it > always takes me a few seconds to realize what I'm listening to. > > It doesn't sound like a Joni Mitchell track (duh). > > But as an afro-cuban or (not sure what else to call it) rumba track...it's > absolutely MOLTEN, right? I guess what surprises me about it is that it's not > diluted, at all. > I'm no expert in this type of music, but I'm thinking "Tenth World" is really > well done. > But I could be wrong! (because like I said I'm no expert) > > Anybody have any opinion on "Tenth World" as it fits into whatever you'd call > the genre it actually IS? > > Like I have some Ray Barreto on my iPod, some of that is vaguely comparable > and then what immediately comes to mind is that old Santana (and others') > track "Para Los Rumberos". > > Listened to completely separate from any other Joni content, and if you were > not familiar with the cut, is there ANY way to identify that cut as a Joni > Mitchell track? like some instrument or player that just sounds "Joni" - even > if it is subtle? > LOL! Makes me wish I were home so I could give it a detailed listen. > > :) > Em > > --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 > To: "Stdoherty" > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 8:12 AM > > > > I wouldn't say I gave it a RIBBING, Tim, I was just commenting on the > listenability of it. I've commented before that it's my favorite Joni song > to run to, but as far as just sitting down and listening to it, it's > certainly not as easy to do as the majority of the balance of her work. > Besides running on a bit too long, it's lacking something to hold my > interest, whether it's some other musical color that shifts chords or > something. And it's not like you can sing along or even really understand > or get into it lyrically. OK, dance the rumba...I get it. > > All right, NOW you can say I gave it a little ribbing. > > Bob > > NP: They Might Be Giants, "S-E-X-X-Y" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:22:40 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: now Tenth World so, now that I listen closely...oh yeah I can hear Joni...as part of the "baila mi rumba" background chorus. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:16:49 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: now Tenth World Yes, you can definitely hear Joni as part of the chorus. The song itself doesn't stand as one of my favorite tracks. It is not something that I regularly listen to (especially with all the gems on DJRD!) but it is very interesting nonetheless. This would have been a song I think would be really interesting to see live. I don't believe Joni ever played it on stage but imagine it as a precursor to the encore of a concert-a group of people sitting around with hand drums and Joni in the middle somewhere getting lost in the music. The crowd would go wild and then all the other musicians would leave and let Joni play a song on her own to wrap up the concert. I see it in my head! - -Mon ________________________________ From: Em To: Stdoherty ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Catherine McKay Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 11:22:40 AM Subject: Re: now Tenth World so, now that I listen closely...oh yeah I can hear Joni...as part of the "baila mi rumba" background chorus. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:23:01 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: now Tenth World Have listened a couple more times...wondering how many times they had to go into the studio to get it. If it was done all at once, I'd love to have a been a fly on the wall and seen all that action. Love the animal noise imitations. Goats, monkeys.... The segueway into Offnight Backstreet is really great.... :) Em ps: why doesn't spell-check like the word segueway...hmmm... wondering how the heck else it might be spelled. - --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: now Tenth World To: "Em" , joni@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:16 PM Yes, you can definitely hear Joni as part of the chorus. The song itself doesn't stand as one of my favorite tracks. It is not something that I regularly listen to (especially with all the gems on DJRD!) but it is very interesting nonetheless. This would have been a song I think would be really interesting to see live. I don't believe Joni ever played it on stage but imagine it as a precursor to the encore of a concert-a group of people sitting around with hand drums and Joni in the middle somewhere getting lost in the music. The crowd would go wild and then all the other musicians would leave and let Joni play a song on her own to wrap up the concert. I see it in my head! - -Mon From: Em To: Stdoherty ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Catherine McKay Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 11:22:40 AM Subject: Re: now Tenth World so, now that I listen closely...oh yeah I can hear Joni...as part of the "baila mi rumba" background chorus. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: now Tenth World Spellcheck doesn't like segueway cuz it's "segue." (From Latin, I guess, maybe Italian, meaning "to follow.") And then again there's the Segway, those goofy-looking two-wheeled things that you have to stand up on. Do you remember the story about how the inventor of them plunged off a cliff on his Segway a few months ago? I'm obviously a sick person, because, for some reason, that struck me as hilarious, in a twisted and horribly ironic way. I like Monika's description. I can see it too. Somehow, I envision this song having been done in an impromptu sort of way. (Impromtuly?) But probably not. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Em > To: joni@smoe.org; Monika Bogdanowicz > Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 12:23:01 PM > Subject: Re: now Tenth World > > Have listened a couple more times...wondering how many times they had to go > into the studio to get it. If it was done all at once, I'd love to have a been > a fly on the wall and seen all that action. Love the animal noise imitations. > Goats, monkeys.... > The segueway into Offnight Backstreet is really great.... > :) > Em > ps: why doesn't spell-check like the word segueway...hmmm... wondering how the > heck else it might be spelled. > > --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > > From: Monika Bogdanowicz > Subject: Re: now Tenth World > To: "Em" , joni@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 12:16 PM > > Yes, you can definitely hear Joni as part of the chorus. The song itself > doesn't stand as one of my favorite tracks. It is not something that I > regularly listen to (especially with all the gems on DJRD!) but it is very > interesting nonetheless. This would have been a song I think would be really > interesting to see live. I don't believe Joni ever played it on stage but > imagine it as a precursor to the encore of a concert-a group of people sitting > around with hand drums and Joni in the middle somewhere getting lost in the > music. The crowd would go wild and then all the other musicians would leave > and let Joni play a song on her own to wrap up the concert. I see it in my > head! > -Mon > > > > > From: Em > To: Stdoherty ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Catherine McKay > > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 11:22:40 AM > Subject: Re: now Tenth World > > so, now that I listen closely...oh yeah I can hear Joni...as part of the > "baila mi rumba" background chorus. > :) > Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:45:43 -0800 From: Russell Bowden Subject: DJRD: A Perfect Work Bob M (aka LG, aka El Gee) and Gang, FROM BOB M. TO ME: I know you have that thing for DJRD, but isn't it a stretch to call it her most "listenable" work? I mean, it requires quite a bit of effort to soak in the ENTIRE Paprika Plains, not to mention "Tenth World" which is pretty much just pure rhythm for almost 7 minutes. It's brilliant to be sure, but in terms of listenability it's hard not to vote against C&S for pure ear candy that just effortlessly shifts from one accessible track to the next. Just my thoughts on the matter... Bob FROM ME TO BOB AND THE ETHER: 7 Minutes? Effort? Hmm. You're talking to a guy who listens to a lot of classical music and opera. Court and Spark was my first 'deep end of the pool' Joni. She had flown around the periphary of ear canals for a while...then C&S got in there and I was hooked. Before tapes, cds, etc...there was the great LP (nice they're back..though they never really left, I guess) Side 1 of C and S is one of those perfect sides....but Side 2 never really grabbed me all that much...'cept for Down 2 You..wow! Just kinda fell apart with Just Like This Train.... Now with CD I hear the whole thing but whether it's old conditioning or what..my mind starts to wander a bit after 'Same Situation. DJRD, however, WOW...from the first time I unwrapped that double album and slapped it on the turntable it has nevr failed to wow me. EVERY SONG! Maybe I was a my highest Joni capacity at that time...I was living alone in a house in the Rocky Mtn (CO) at the time, it was winter and all I did all day long was listen to every Joni available up to that time. I turned so many people on to her cause that's what was playing non-stop. I can't say DJRD is operatic but in my mind it comes in 3 sections....The first part...getting out there..beginning the journey....it closes with a flashback to her roots (PP) Second section takes to the exotic (speshly through the eyes of our Canadian Songstress) Miami and then closer to the equator and beyond with 10th World and Dreamland...Last section takes us inside to the heart, mind and Scorpio workings of her deepest passions. I'm making this up as I go along and am steeped in ADHD...so I hope this is making some kind of sense. Long story short: I LOVE DJRD. Discuss. Much Love, Russ in Alameda CA Sotto voce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:54:57 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: DJRD: A Perfect Work Me too. I just would never say it's her most LISTENABLE work. I would say that after Travelogue & Mingus it's her most challenging album to listen to. It's very demanding, it's something you have to fixate on. That's a compliment. Bob NP: Ben Folds, "Jesusland" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:11:57 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: DJRD: A Perfect Work Bob, I find DJRD extremely listenable. In fact, even though I always say Hejira is my favorite Joni work, I listen to DJRD far more than any of the others - and by a large margin. I would say I listen to DJRD at least twice as often as any other Joni album. After that would be Hejira, followed closely by Shine and Turbulent Indigo. I think Joni was at the height of her musical powers during this period, and to me, DJRD represents her musical peak (though nothing can touch Hejira from a lyrical perspective). Her interplay with Jaco is just amazing on DJRD. How I wish they made a few more albums together. Jack In a message dated 12/22/2010 1:59:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: Me too. I just would never say it's her most LISTENABLE work. I would say that after Travelogue & Mingus it's her most challenging album to listen to. It's very demanding, it's something you have to fixate on. That's a compliment. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:37:43 -0500 From: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Subject: Re: DJRD: A Perfect Work Hi all, I have to chime in here! In the past year and a half, I think that DJRD has become my most played Joni album, and I mean album as I found a mint used copy in a local record store sometime back. It never fails to disappoint- musically, lyrically...... all of it, I love. Have even grown to enjoy Paprika Plains which has always been a bit of a challenge for me. I would agree with Jack that Joni was at her peak, here. It gets spun at least once a week! Also as Jack, Mingus, Shine and Turbulent Indigo are right there. I think Shine is brilliant, so bang on for the time.... I am perturbed that it didn't garner the accolades and respect I think it deserves. Happy Holidays to all best Stephen in Toronto NP: The middle east Bob, I find DJRD extremely listenable. In fact, even though I always say Hejira is my favorite Joni work, I listen to DJRD far more than any of the others - and by a large margin. I would say I listen to DJRD at least twice as often as any other Joni album. After that would be Hejira, followed closely by Shine and Turbulent Indigo. I think Joni was at the height of her musical powers during this period, and to me, DJRD represents her musical peak (though nothing can touch Hejira from a lyrical perspective). Her interplay with Jaco is just amazing on DJRD. How I wish they made a few more albums together. Jack In a message dated 12/22/2010 1:59:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: Me too. I just would never say it's her most LISTENABLE work. I would say that after Travelogue & Mingus it's her most challenging album to listen to. It's very demanding, it's something you have to fixate on. That's a compliment. This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. We thank you for notifying us immediately. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:17:43 -0500 From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: now Tenth World OK not a ribbing - after all it isn't Dancin' Clown. Thanks for Tenth World chatter all. 'tis a great song. Bob I too like to run to it, so it's a staple on my steroid mix .. along with DJRD which is my favorite any kind of song to run to. Maybe my frequent plays is why I find it so familiar and totally Joni during her Don Juan incarnation. It's a fun song and inspires dance - that's a side of Joni I could never get enough of. - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn To: Em Cc: Stdoherty ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, Dec 22, 2010 10:39 am Subject: Re: now Tenth World As a drummer, I have put some time into studying Afro Cuban music and how the ayers of rhythms fit together, so, though no expert, I have some experience earing and playing it. The Tenth World seems to me a fantastic track, that Joni enerously "gives" to the band. By this point all the members of Weather Report xcept Josef Zawinul were working with Joni and 1977 was the year of their andmark album "Heavy Weather". Their rhythm section of Alex Acuna, Manolo adrena and Jaco Pastorius, augmented by Jaco's friend Don Alias (who played ongas on his debut LP "Jaco Pastorius") was at the top of their game that year, nd Joni was likely in awe of their playing and authentic roots; plus, she loves o dance, and no doubt could really feel the sinewy slither of Brazilian and uban grooves in her bones, thus including The Tenth World and a worldbeat akeover of Dreamland on the album. I think DJRD really is the missing link between Joni the songwriter working from rock/folk tradition and fronting the band on the one hand, and Joni the jazz xplorer letting everyone in the band shine on the other. There wouldn't have uch she could contribute to this track, perhaps feeling like she was really "a ong long way from Canada" but knew it was killer music nonetheless. I agree hat it is perhaps too long a detour from the "songs" on the album, but onsiderably shorter than many Afro Cuban excursions can run. It also fits into he "native" theme of the album very well; Paprika Plains with its native merican vignettes, Dreamland down in Brazil, The Tenth World in Cuba, even otton Avenue up in Harlem. Dave n Dec 22, 2010, at 6:21 AM, Em wrote: > "Tenth World" pops onto my iPod at work (when in shuffle mode) pretty often, for some reason. Since I have other afro-cuban-ish stuff on there too, it always takes me a few seconds to realize what I'm listening to. It doesn't sound like a Joni Mitchell track (duh). But as an afro-cuban or (not sure what else to call it) rumba track...it's absolutely MOLTEN, right? I guess what surprises me about it is that it's not diluted, at all. I'm no expert in this type of music, but I'm thinking "Tenth World" is really well done. But I could be wrong! (because like I said I'm no expert) Anybody have any opinion on "Tenth World" as it fits into whatever you'd call the genre it actually IS? Like I have some Ray Barreto on my iPod, some of that is vaguely comparable and then what immediately comes to mind is that old Santana (and others') track "Para Los Rumberos". Listened to completely separate from any other Joni content, and if you were not familiar with the cut, is there ANY way to identify that cut as a Joni Mitchell track? like some instrument or player that just sounds "Joni" - even if it is subtle? LOL! Makes me wish I were home so I could give it a detailed listen. :) Em --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #350 To: "Stdoherty" Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 8:12 AM I wouldn't say I gave it a RIBBING, Tim, I was just commenting on the listenability of it. I've commented before that it's my favorite Joni song to run to, but as far as just sitting down and listening to it, it's certainly not as easy to do as the majority of the balance of her work. Besides running on a bit too long, it's lacking something to hold my interest, whether it's some other musical color that shifts chords or something. And it's not like you can sing along or even really understand or get into it lyrically. OK, dance the rumba...I get it. All right, NOW you can say I gave it a little ribbing. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "S-E-X-X-Y" ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #351 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe