From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #346 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, December 17 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 346 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Paprika Plains (Remix) - why am I just now hearing this? [Mark Domyan] Re: Paprika Plains (Remix) - why am I just now hearing this? [Lieve Recke] Re: Paprika Plains (Remix) - why am I just now hearing this? [Laura Stanl] Paprika Plains on CD [Russell Bowden ] Re: Joni Screen Saver [Mark-Leon Thorne ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:23:14 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Paprika Plains (Remix) - why am I just now hearing this? Responding to a few different replies as I'm on digest: Jerry wrote: > One of Joni's most brilliant compositions, and may well be remembered long > after Big Yellow Taxi. > In my opinion, doubtful. As Bob mentioned (and I agree with) the thing that maintains BYT's prominence today is that it is oft quoted. Plus, it's poppy, it's upbeat. Paprika Plains as was mentioned, is a religious experience. It's not a trip to get ice cream, it's a song that you have to be baptized in. I will admit though the first time I heard it I couldn't really wrap my head around it and just thought of it as a boundless piano composition that should have had lost 11 or 12 minutes. Now I feel much differently. While I don't consider it to be the pinnacle of Joni's songwriting (I think it would be cruel to label anything as such) I think it's definitely noteworthy for the level of improvisation that it includes; that Joni had been writing and performing for 12 or 13 years at this point and her talent had enabled her to just go into a studio with just a strong mental picture of a song she wanted to write and just started playing. I think that shows great talent, and it's not something that comes quickly to any musician. It takes years and years of said performing and songwriting to achieve a point where you can just roll with something and pull off a piece like this. I think that's what's got me so much about this song: that it shows Joni at an age and a level of musicianship that proves she can meander about the piano and still write a cohesive song. Bob wrote: > Covers: Big Yellow Taxi 291, Paprika Plains 0. > I'm going to change that! Right after my piano version of "The Wolf That Lives in Lindsey." Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:59:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Paprika Plains (Remix) - why am I just now hearing this? I'm not sure my reply is even worth being added to this debate, but I just want to say "thank you" to everybody who has written so knowledgeably, with so much love for and knowledge of music. I am so grateful to be part of this group, of a discussion list of this calibre. I would like to make an effort, one day, to compare both recordings and see how much if it I can recognise myself, with the aid of all these write-ups. But for lack of time and with other preoccupations, it will probably never happen. So I just sit in awe of what I read here. And I have to smile with recognition when I read Catherine's description of the "melting clocks"! Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Randy Remote To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 16 December, 2010 1:44:37 Subject: Re: Paprika Plains (Remix) - why am I just now hearing this? From: > RR wrote an essay, comparing the 2 versions. It's worth looking up. Which I rewrote a bit, and posted on Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/39tu6ht I've forgotten more than I'll ever know about PP, (not you, Pattie!) but amongst other info about the song and the recording, I give the exact times the different pianos come in, ad nauseum, etc, etc RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:03:58 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Paprika Plains (Remix) - why am I just now hearing this? Bob wrote: "it's the hits that artists stay known for, not the misses." Hi Bob, Hits? What about Van Gogh? This is a wonderful short synopsis about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_van_Gogh I particularly liked this closing paragraph: In 1957, Francis Bacon (1909b1992) based a series of paintings on reproductions of Van Gogh's The Painter on the Road to Tarascon, the original of which was destroyed during World War II. Bacon was inspired by not only an image he described as "haunting", but also Van Gogh himself, whom Bacon regarded as an alienated outsider, a position which resonated with Bacon. The Irish artist further identified with Van Gogh's theories of art and quoted lines written in a letter to Theo, "[R]eal painters do not paint things as they are...They paint them as they themselves feel them to be".[179] An exhibition devoted to Vincent van Gogh's letters took place in theVan Gogh Museum in Amsterdam from October 2009 to January 2010[180] and then moved to the Royal Academy in London from late January to April.[181] Hi to all of you alienated outsiders lurking out there. Love, Laura Movie NPIMH: The Dark Knight ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:52:03 -0800 From: Russell Bowden Subject: Paprika Plains on CD Gang, I've always loved this song...as I've loved every square inch of DJRD since my first hearing (so far, the only Joni release of which I can make that statement..NRH is the close 2nd.) Anywho....My complaint re: PP on cd is that I can't read all of those wonderful unsung lyrics in the liner notes booklet. One needs the Keck Observatory Telescope to see them! Love and Happy Horrordaze (for all of my depessed friends) Russ in Alameda, CA Sotto voce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:10:21 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni Screen Saver Hi Marje. Are you talking about the Joni wallpapers that were up on the JMDL website? Ironically, my computer crashed right after the demise of the website and I lost all of my original designs and the submissions from others. Luckily, Les was able to send me the jpegs of my designs so, that's something. I have posted them all on my FaceBook page. Anyone who is friends with me can easily access them and take what they like. If you're not on FB, write to me off list and I can send which ever one(s) you want. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #346 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe