From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #337 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, December 7 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 337 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Joni with child [Susan Tierney McNamara ] RE: Sue's Part and Joni with Child [Susan Tierney McNamara ] RE: Sue's Part and Joni with Child [Mags ] RE: Joni with child [Mags ] Re: "Amelia" transcription [Dave Blackburn ] Re: "Amelia" transcription ["Mark" ] Re: Joni with child [Monika Bogdanowicz ] RE: Joni with child [Susan Tierney McNamara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:33:29 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni with child I don't have any more to reveal about that. That was the extent of my involvement and knowledge. Sue just cog in great wheel of life! :-) The only other thing I can relay about that time was Wally offered me a front row seat at the filming of Painting with Words and Music and I couldn't go because I couldn't afford the airfare. One of the great regrets of my life. Boo hoo!! Take care, Sue - -----Original Message----- From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com [mailto:jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:10 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; carmel rotem; JMDL; Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Joni with child Great story, Sue. I don't think I've heard the whole story before. Is there more? Jim L'Hommedieu - ----- Original Message ---- From: Susan Tierney McNamara I was there... Anyway, for those who were around in those days the creation of a Joni Mitchell discussion list was something I had been pressing Wally Breese to think about running from his website but he was not interested for a variety of reasons.B He finally conceded to a web based message system on his Joni Mitchell site which was not very interactive (actually people would email me and then I would post the messages manually!).B Somewhere within that time, Les Irvin started the JMDL and I was overjoyed!!!B So I was moderating the Wally web-based message list while also reading and posting on the JMDL. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:43:29 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Sue's Part and Joni with Child Thanks Laura. I had the same experience as you when I finally got on the internet. My first search was Joni Mitchell and I found Wally's site in its toddler stages. I contacted him to see if he needed help and he took me up on his offer. I did a lot of typing, transcribing tapes, and writing reviews of concerts. Then when Les started the JMDL I jumped in with both feet. At the time I found these two internet communities, I was going through probably the hardest time in my life personally and the joy I found from working with Wally on his bio pages and Les with the tunings site brought me out of a really dark time. I think Joni would agree that creativity is healing and restorative (as well as listening to her music). Sue PS By the way, I'm so grateful for Les Irvin. JoniMitchell.com is the VERY BEST music website on the planet as far as I'm concerned. THANKS LES (and if you can, send the site money!!) From: est86mlm@ameritech.net [mailto:est86mlm@ameritech.net] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:08 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Sue's Part and Joni with Child Sue, Thanks for sharing your story of You, Joni, Kilauren, Les and Wally. Love it! I was there back then, in the earlier JMDL days, but don't remember, or never knew, all the details and how you all interacted that eventually led to the Joni/Kilauren reunion. Your story puts the pieces together. You sure should feel like a big part of it.........wow! Because you are. And "astounding" (your choice of words) is exactly what it is. It's as if you were "used' by the powers above to be in a position to begin the process of bringing Joni and Kilauren together. And thank the heavens for the website and the JMDL and it's 'Masters', as well! The whole combination of this technology that brought these two together. You told Mags that you "have a problem taking credit for hitting a forward button". Here's my little story to add to show how something that may appear not very meaningful... is. In the "old days" I was completely computer illiterate. My husband brought a computer in the house and I was not friendly toward it. It seemed like just another way to waste time. I watched and listened, somewhat annoyed, while my husband was so excited about it and his perceived impact it would have on the future....but I couldn't feel the same excitement....I didn't really 'get it'. Then one day he said "I have a surprise for you....." he showed me the Joni website he had found (and he's NOT a fan) and told me he had signed-me up for a discussion list. When I saw that website I was amazed! Well......he couldn't keep me off the computer after that (and now have my own computer).......between Joni and, eventually finding a website & discussion list for coupons (LOL), I was hooked. It was the beginning of understanding the impact of the internet and the joy of the 'search' button!! And 'till this day I always credit my husband for taking the time and finding the Website and bringing me here!! Everyday I click-on the Website and see the words: JoniMitchell.com I can still remember that first excitement.....because I'm still excited about it! ... If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping in a closed room with a mosquito. I've seen this as someone's signature. I can't remember if it's someone from the JMDL (?) or not. Anyways......thank you, Sue!! Laura NP: Kilauren/Joni Reunion http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=152&from=search ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:54:54 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni with child It was also very surprising to me that back in the day (1994 when TI came out) there was still hardly any Joni presence on the internet. I think we are now pretty used to instant news gratification with the internet. It's hard to believe that in the olden days news didn't really travel as fast as it does today. Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Monika Bogdanowicz Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 4:30 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni with child It is rather odd that nobody picked up on that article about Joni giving up a child as you all mentioned. I mean, the press loves that stuff. You wouldn't see them run with, "Joni Mitchell comes up with song at Canada home" but personal stuff like that? I'm very, very surprised. - -M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: RE: Sue's Part and Joni with Child And we are grateful for you and all of your generous work which has and continues to effect change for so many of us. Thanks, Sue. You are a woman of heart and mind, and I am so glad you've been able to find comfort here, with no need to explain ;-) love, Mags ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 07:12:27 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: RE: Joni with child Monika, did you mean now or then? I think there was quite a bit of press about Joni and the reunion with her child. Sorry if I'm off the mark here by not understanding what you meant. I know that this story has meaning for all of us, as we wonder around this loving community. Mags. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:04:00 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: "Amelia" transcription Hey Sam, Larry Carlton was known for doing great volume pedal swells that sounded like steel guitar, which also frequently uses volume pedal swells. When the chord has no audible attack it's hard to tell them apart. Yes I'd be way into a chat with Mr 335, one of the most important session musicians ever, in my opinion. P.S If you want to hear Amelia with real lap steel guitar check out the Mutts of the Planet version (links in signature line). thanks, Dave - ------------------------------------------------- New CD available now! "Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell" by Robin Adler & Mutts of the Planet. To listen or learn more: http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet To purchase: http://www.robinadler.com/products.html On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Sam Stone wrote: > JMDLers, > > two or three days ago, I emailed LARRY CARLTON to answer the question that's > been eating me up: "Is there a pedal steel on the left channel of Amelia, or > is it just effects?" > > Well, he answered!! Here's his message: > > > "Hi Sam- > I am on the left-but NO steel gtr or special tuning.Just me, a Volume pedal > and my 335. > Good luck and my best. > LC" > > > I can't explain to you all how happy I am right now!!!!!!!!!! Something I'm > wondering: If I could arrange it, how would you all feel about having an > internet chat with Larry? I'd need some help to co-ordinate the actual chat, > but how about it?!?! > > > > --Sam > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Sam Stone wrote: > >> Okay, >> >> To solve this problem I have sent an e-mail to the only person who can >> truly answer the question of "guitar with effects" of "pedal steel": the man >> who played the part himself-- Mr. 335, LARRY CARLTON! I'll reply again when >> he answers!! >> >> >> --Sam >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Sam Stone wrote: >> >>> Hi again JMDL-ers! >>> >>> Last time I left you, I had just purchased Clouds on LP. Since then I >>> have listened to, absorbed, and--when possible--played along to all the >>> other Joni albums! >>> >>> I just overcame my fear of post-1972 Joni and borrowed my aunt's Hejira >>> LP. I'm totally fascinated by it. So far my favorite track is "Amelia." >>> The moment I heard it I thought, 'I need to learn this.' So I went to the >>> guitar archives and played along!!! Fun time to be had... >>> >>> Anyway, upon further examination of the track, I have realized that there >>> is another guitar part -- pedal steel guitar -- that I really like. >>> Since I don't play pedal steel guitar, I started thinking of how I could >>> play this. I realized.....harmonics! >>> >>> Are there any transcriptions available of the pedal steel part arranged >>> for guitar or will I have to make my own? And what tuning would that be >>> in??? >>> >>> >>> Thanks for everything, >>> Sam >>> PS: If this is in the wrong section/list please inform me! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:05:04 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: "Amelia" transcription And a beautiful version it is, too. As are all the tracks on 'Safaris to the Heart'. Mark in Seattle Mutts of the Planet fan - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn \ P.S If you want to hear Amelia with real lap steel guitar check out the Mutts of the Planet version (links in signature line). thanks, Dave - ------------------------------------------------- New CD available now! "Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell" by Robin Adler & Mutts of the Planet. To listen or learn more: http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet To purchase: http://www.robinadler.com/products.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:01:41 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni with child No problem. I meant back then, from that first article that came out in the 80s. It was still some time before it became known after that one, lonely article. - -Mon ________________________________ From: Mags To: Monika Bogdanowicz ; "joni@smoe.org" ; Susan Tierney McNamara Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 10:12:27 AM Subject: RE: Joni with child Monika, did you mean now or then? I think there was quite a bit of press about Joni and the reunion with her child. Sorry if I'm off the mark here by not understanding what you meant. I know that this story has meaning for all of us, as we wonder around this loving community. Mags. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:43:07 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni with child Was the tabloid from the '80s the one that appeared in the Joni/Kilauren video on jm.com? It was a Canadian tabloid, wasn't it? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Monika Bogdanowicz Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:02 PM To: Mags; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni with child No problem. I meant back then, from that first article that came out in the 80s. It was still some time before it became known after that one, lonely article. - -Mon ________________________________ From: Mags To: Monika Bogdanowicz ; "joni@smoe.org" ; Susan Tierney McNamara Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 10:12:27 AM Subject: RE: Joni with child Monika, did you mean now or then? I think there was quite a bit of press about Joni and the reunion with her child. Sorry if I'm off the mark here by not understanding what you meant. I know that this story has meaning for all of us, as we wonder around this loving community. Mags. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #337 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe