From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #332 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, December 2 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 332 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Tight little nuggets [Vincenzo Mancini ] Re: David Mingus [Michael Paz ] Re: David Mingus [Lieve Reckers ] Re: David Mingus [rosemjoy@aol.com] RE: Tight little nuggets [Susan Tierney McNamara ] re: David Mingus [c Karma ] RE: David Mingus [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Tight little nuggets [Catherine McKay ] Re: David Mingus [Garret ] Re: Tight little nuggets [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Tight little nuggets [Catherine McKay ] Re: David Mingus [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: David Mingus ["Jody Johnson" ] Re: David Mingus [Michael Paz ] timely quote [Jim ] historical post asked about Joni's baby [Jim ] Re: David Mingus [Kate Johnson ] Re: Tight little nuggets ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:18:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Vincenzo Mancini Subject: Tight little nuggets ... Not to mention the incredible synthesis by alluding to "sharing" drinking as well, which that "siphon" would seem to mean, finding an ironic counterpart in "Why'd you have to get so drunk and lead me on that way.." which can hardly refrain her to smile... May David Mingus' sky be blue Vincenzo Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:23:12 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Tight little nuggets Both Coyote and DJRD (the song) were written together, and about her relationship to Sam Shepard, is that a fair statement? As we center behind the 8-ball: Joni is well-known to be a cracker-jack pool shark As we rock between the sheets: Don't need to explain that one, she & Sam were in a relationship As we siphon the colored language off the farms and the streets: They were/are both writers, drawing off experiences and environment and the duality of their day-to-day (I'm up all night in the studio while you're out early on your ranch"). I feel like this line in DJRD is an extension of the thought in Coyote. Just some random thoughts. Thanks Joni for constantly engaging my brain. Bob NP: Richard Thompson, "The Money Shuffle" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:04:42 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: David Mingus Jimmy Please give my love to Mingus when you see him. Also my love and thought are with David. Hang in there brother. Just back from Brazil on my way to NW area. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:39 PM, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: I'm not putting the NJC tag on this since many of you have met David at some of the fests, the Mendel, and the NYC tribute. Some of you know of the health problems that he's had for many years, but he always bounces back. He's been in the hospital for three months now, with a couple of brief stays at home. He's been in and out of ICU, and always seems to bounce back. I've seen and talked with him quite a few times, and he always has his feisty since of humor. I got a call from his partner David Rolls this morning. Last night was a bad night for him, and they called the family to the room. Rolls said he stayed at the hospital most of the night, and didn't know if Mingus would make it through the night. He told me to stop by the hospital today, since this morning Mingus was somewhat coherent. I got there this afternoon around 2:30, and he was sleeping with Miles of Aisles playing. In fact it was "Jericho"when I walked in. I woke him up and he said "Jimmy," but fell back asleep. I stayed with him for about an hour while listening to Joni. Periodically, he would wake up and say "Hi Jimmy, I love you." It was very difficult to hold back the tears. Ashara, Jody, Kay, and a few others, I know what it was like for you with Murphy. As many of you know, I had discovered Joni Mitchell in college with "Court & Spark," but when I met David in the early 80's I had never known someone who loved Joni so much. I found JM.Com and the JMDL since he didn't have a computer, and used to print all the info for him. He could recite every line from every song she wrote. His big thrills in life was being able to photograph her at the Atlanta concert in '98 and the West Palm concert during her BSN tour. Still when he got to meet her at the Mendel gallery, it was the tops. He still has that pic of him and Joni hanging in his house. I talked with David Rolls after my visit, and he told me they will probably be moving him to Hospice tomorrow or Thursday. I just want you to all keep him in your thoughts and prayers. He's fought for so long, so maybe he can keep fighting. He still has Joni with him. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:33:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: David Mingus Similar feelings here, as I have already told Jimmy in a personal message. I met "the two Davids" at the Full Moon, and I also remember his kindness and big heart. His enthusiasm for Joni just overflowed. We went on a hike together with Jimmy and Ed, I still have lovely photos of that day. Like Mags, I would like to give him a gentle touch, even though he probably does not remember me. It's good to know he has his loving partner and friends by his side. They all deserve our support now. Big hug, Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Mags To: joni@smoe.org; FMYFL@aol.com Sent: Tue, 30 November, 2010 22:54:59 Subject: Re: David Mingus oh Jimmy, this is heartbreaking news. And yet. I am so glad you are able to visit David (and offer support to his partner David, as well. Ah geeze, I'm all teary eyed here. David has been a huge support in my time of need. You know, he even planted a flowering tree for my brother Dave, when he died. I still have the photograph and will never forget his kindness. I am not sure he would remember me during this time, however, I would dearly love and appreciate it if you would kindly give David a gentle hug/touch on the arm, something, and let him know that I'm praying for him. with love and care, Mags - --- On Tue, 11/30/10, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: David Mingus > To: joni@smoe.org > Received: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 5:39 PM > I'm not putting the NJC tag on this > since many of you have met David at > some of the fests, the Mendel, and the NYC tribute. Some of > you know of the > health problems that he's had for many years, but he always > bounces back. He's > been in the hospital for three months now, with a couple of > brief stays at > home. He's been in and out of ICU, and always seems to > bounce back. I've > seen and talked with him quite a few times, and he always > has his feisty since > of humor. I got a call from his partner David Rolls > this morning. Last > night was a bad night for him, and they called the family > to the room. Rolls > said he stayed at the hospital most of the night, and > didn't know if Mingus > would make it through the night. He told me to stop > by the hospital today, > since this morning Mingus was somewhat coherent. I > got there this afternoon > around 2:30, and he was sleeping with Miles of Aisles > playing. In fact it > was "Jericho"when I walked in. I woke him up and he > said "Jimmy," but fell > back asleep. I stayed with him for about an hour while > listening to Joni. > Periodically, he would wake up and say "Hi Jimmy, I love > you." It was very > difficult to hold back the tears. Ashara, Jody, Kay, and a > few others, I know > what it was like for you with Murphy. > > As many of you know, I had discovered Joni Mitchell in > college with "Court & > Spark," but when I met David in the early 80's I had never > known someone > who loved Joni so much. I found JM.Com and the JMDL > since he didn't have a > computer, and used to print all the info for him. He > could recite every line > from every song she wrote. His big thrills in life was > being able to > photograph her at the Atlanta concert in '98 and the West > Palm concert during her > BSN tour. Still when he got to meet her at the Mendel > gallery, it was the > tops. He still has that pic of him and Joni hanging in his > house. > > I talked with David Rolls after my visit, and he told me > they will probably > be moving him to Hospice tomorrow or Thursday. I just want > you to all keep > him in your thoughts and prayers. He's fought for so long, > so maybe he can > keep fighting. He still has Joni with him. > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:47:44 -0500 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: David Mingus Dear Jimmy, If you see Mingus again, please tell him I really miss him. He was such a comfort and a joy to me when I met him at NEJonifest 2003. Also, when David met Joni @ The Mendell, didn't he say to her "I feel like I've just met The Pope"?!? lol {{Big Hugs}} LOVE, LOVE LOVE.... Rosie in NJ - -----Original Message----- From: FMYFL@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, Nov 30, 2010 5:39 pm Subject: David Mingus I'm not putting the NJC tag on this since many of you have met David at ome of the fests, the Mendel, and the NYC tribute. Some of you know of the ealth problems that he's had for many years, but he always bounces back. He's een in the hospital for three months now, with a couple of brief stays at ome. He's been in and out of ICU, and always seems to bounce back. I've een and talked with him quite a few times, and he always has his feisty since f humor. I got a call from his partner David Rolls this morning. Last ight was a bad night for him, and they called the family to the room. Rolls aid he stayed at the hospital most of the night, and didn't know if Mingus ould make it through the night. He told me to stop by the hospital today, ince this morning Mingus was somewhat coherent. I got there this afternoon round 2:30, and he was sleeping with Miles of Aisles playing. In fact it as "Jericho"when I walked in. I woke him up and he said "Jimmy," but fell ack asleep. I stayed with him for about an hour while listening to Joni. eriodically, he would wake up and say "Hi Jimmy, I love you." It was very ifficult to hold back the tears. Ashara, Jody, Kay, and a few others, I know hat it was like for you with Murphy. As many of you know, I had discovered Joni Mitchell in college with "Court & Spark," but when I met David in the early 80's I had never known someone ho loved Joni so much. I found JM.Com and the JMDL since he didn't have a omputer, and used to print all the info for him. He could recite every line rom every song she wrote. His big thrills in life was being able to hotograph her at the Atlanta concert in '98 and the West Palm concert during er SN tour. Still when he got to meet her at the Mendel gallery, it was the ops. He still has that pic of him and Joni hanging in his house. I talked with David Rolls after my visit, and he told me they will probably e moving him to Hospice tomorrow or Thursday. I just want you to all keep im in your thoughts and prayers. He's fought for so long, so maybe he can eep fighting. He still has Joni with him. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:04:45 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Tight little nuggets It is interesting too that they are in the same tuning CGDFCE ... another tight little nugget! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Vincenzo Mancini Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:19 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Tight little nuggets ... Not to mention the incredible synthesis by alluding to "sharing" drinking as well, which that "siphon" would seem to mean, finding an ironic counterpart in "Why'd you have to get so drunk and lead me on that way.." which can hardly refrain her to smile... May David Mingus' sky be blue Vincenzo Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:23:12 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Tight little nuggets Both Coyote and DJRD (the song) were written together, and about her relationship to Sam Shepard, is that a fair statement? As we center behind the 8-ball: Joni is well-known to be a cracker-jack pool shark As we rock between the sheets: Don't need to explain that one, she & Sam were in a relationship As we siphon the colored language off the farms and the streets: They were/are both writers, drawing off experiences and environment and the duality of their day-to-day (I'm up all night in the studio while you're out early on your ranch"). I feel like this line in DJRD is an extension of the thought in Coyote. Just some random thoughts. Thanks Joni for constantly engaging my brain. Bob NP: Richard Thompson, "The Money Shuffle" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:37:56 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: David Mingus Jimmy,I'm SO saddened to hear the news of David's illness progressing. My heart is heavy for him and for David Rolls. One of the most fun days and night I ever had was spent in the Davids' company at the Mendel opening of "Voices." We stayed together (and met) at a "reasonable" hotel adjacent to the railroad tracks in a less upscale part of Saskatoon, one that looked like the prairie town it was. I spied them and they me in the lobby and instantly surmised the other was not from around those parts and therefore MUST be there for Joni. They offered to chauffer me into town, and together we met up with Jim Johansen and toured the city in their rented Pontiac after lunch with other JMDLers. Somewhere there is a picture of the two Davids and JJ beneath the Broadway Bridge that I snapped. At the gallery later that night, I heard David tell Joni about his illness and how her music had helped him through the peaks and troughs, indeed how he felt that her music had saved his life many times over. She listened intently as she signed his copy of the book, asked him a couple of specific questions on how he coped and offered him support and a hug. I'm honored to have been witness to a moment I'm sure he has called upon for strength. Later after the reception, we climbed back into the Pontiac (there were probably 9 of us in that car, me on Mingus' LAP!) to go look for trouble in Saskatoon. No, we didn't find any but did see some more Joni relevant locations in the late evening light (Saskatoon stays twilight past 10-10:30pm in early July) and caught a bite. I can't remember exactly how the evening ended but I know I had to call it early to get an early morning flight out. I joined the JMDL soon after that experience and was always surprised at how infrequently David posted to the list, given his admiration for and deep knowledge of all things Joni. His photos of the concerts that you mentioned are spectacular, and he should be justifiably proud as he is thrilled to have taken them. I wish him and David strength in the days ahead and openly say thanks for having shared his understanding and joy. CC "I heard there was no sickness, and no toil or danger. Just mercy and plenty where peaceful waters flow, where peaceful waters flow." -- JM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:09:00 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: David Mingus Karmicly, I was listening to Silky Veils of Ardor while I was reading this and she was singing the line at the end of this post just as I was reading it. Wow, I'm not sure what to think about that but I'm sure it means good vibes out to Davids ... I had shivers ... Love Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:38 PM To: fmyfl@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: re: David Mingus Jimmy,I'm SO saddened to hear the news of David's illness progressing. My heart is heavy for him and for David Rolls. One of the most fun days and night I ever had was spent in the Davids' company at the Mendel opening of "Voices." We stayed together (and met) at a "reasonable" hotel adjacent to the railroad tracks in a less upscale part of Saskatoon, one that looked like the prairie town it was. I spied them and they me in the lobby and instantly surmised the other was not from around those parts and therefore MUST be there for Joni. They offered to chauffer me into town, and together we met up with Jim Johansen and toured the city in their rented Pontiac after lunch with other JMDLers. Somewhere there is a picture of the two Davids and JJ beneath the Broadway Bridge that I snapped. At the gallery later that night, I heard David tell Joni about his illness and how her music had helped him through the peaks and troughs, indeed how he felt that her music had saved his life many times over. She listened intently as she signed his copy of the book, asked him a couple of specific questions on how he coped and offered him support and a hug. I'm honored to have been witness to a moment I'm sure he has called upon for strength. Later after the reception, we climbed back into the Pontiac (there were probably 9 of us in that car, me on Mingus' LAP!) to go look for trouble in Saskatoon. No, we didn't find any but did see some more Joni relevant locations in the late evening light (Saskatoon stays twilight past 10-10:30pm in early July) and caught a bite. I can't remember exactly how the evening ended but I know I had to call it early to get an early morning flight out. I joined the JMDL soon after that experience and was always surprised at how infrequently David posted to the list, given his admiration for and deep knowledge of all things Joni. His photos of the concerts that you mentioned are spectacular, and he should be justifiably proud as he is thrilled to have taken them. I wish him and David strength in the days ahead and openly say thanks for having shared his understanding and joy. CC "I heard there was no sickness, and no toil or danger. Just mercy and plenty where peaceful waters flow, where peaceful waters flow." -- JM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Tight little nuggets There is a live show that I have somewhere in my messy apartment where she sings them together: Coyote, followed by DJRD. Wonderful! I also love both songs and Vincenzo, thanks for drawing attention to the word "siphon." It conjures up many images: the writer gleaning bits and pieces of information ("every shiny little thing") from what she hears and sees around her. As well, to me at least, there's a hint of something potentially illegal or at least not quite ethical, as if she's stealing other people's words or thoughts, the way someone might siphon off gasoline from another person's gas tank. I guess that is what artists do in many ways, because they get their inspiration and ideas from all around them. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > To: Vincenzo Mancini ; "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:04:45 AM > Subject: RE: Tight little nuggets > > It is interesting too that they are in the same tuning CGDFCE ... another tight >little nugget! :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Vincenzo >Mancini > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:19 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Tight little nuggets > > ... Not to mention the incredible synthesis by alluding to "sharing" drinking > as > well, which that "siphon" would seem to mean, finding an > ironic counterpart in > "Why'd you have to get so drunk and lead me on that > way.." which can hardly > refrain her to smile... > > May David Mingus' sky be > blue > > Vincenzo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 19:04:53 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: David Mingus Jimmy, thanks for telling us this. I only met him once, and then briefly. I am glad to hear that he has a loving network around him. Some Joni in his honour. GARRET NP - Joni, A Chair In The Sky On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:39 PM, wrote: > I'm not putting the NJC tag on this since many of you have met David at > some of the fests, the Mendel, and the NYC tribute. Some of you know of the > health problems that he's had for many years, but he always bounces back. > He's > been in the hospital for three months now, with a couple of brief stays at > home. He's been in and out of ICU, and always seems to bounce back. I've > seen and talked with him quite a few times, and he always has his feisty > since > of humor. I got a call from his partner David Rolls this morning. Last > night was a bad night for him, and they called the family to the room. > Rolls > said he stayed at the hospital most of the night, and didn't know if Mingus > would make it through the night. He told me to stop by the hospital today, > since this morning Mingus was somewhat coherent. I got there this > afternoon > around 2:30, and he was sleeping with Miles of Aisles playing. In fact it > was "Jericho"when I walked in. I woke him up and he said "Jimmy," but fell > back asleep. I stayed with him for about an hour while listening to Joni. > Periodically, he would wake up and say "Hi Jimmy, I love you." It was very > difficult to hold back the tears. Ashara, Jody, Kay, and a few others, I > know > what it was like for you with Murphy. > > As many of you know, I had discovered Joni Mitchell in college with "Court > & > Spark," but when I met David in the early 80's I had never known someone > who loved Joni so much. I found JM.Com and the JMDL since he didn't have a > computer, and used to print all the info for him. He could recite every > line > from every song she wrote. His big thrills in life was being able to > photograph her at the Atlanta concert in '98 and the West Palm concert > during her > BSN tour. Still when he got to meet her at the Mendel gallery, it was the > tops. He still has that pic of him and Joni hanging in his house. > > I talked with David Rolls after my visit, and he told me they will probably > be moving him to Hospice tomorrow or Thursday. I just want you to all keep > him in your thoughts and prayers. He's fought for so long, so maybe he can > keep fighting. He still has Joni with him. > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:04:37 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Tight little nuggets Probably the 1976 Spectrum Show - she played that medley on all of the shows on that all too brief tour. Amazing setlists and performances. Bob NP: Kevin Gilbert, "Tea For One" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Amazing setlists and performances. > > Bob > > NP: Kevin Gilbert, "Tea For One" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 20:38:39 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: David Mingus I just got off the phone with David Rolls. Mingus had a good day today, as good as they can be. He will be moved to Hospice tomorrow. I have printed all of your good thoughts and prayers for him, and will read them to him on Friday. Thanks for all your on list and off list messages to me. I told David Rolls about them, and he was so touched. You guys are the best! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 20:49:09 -0500 From: "Jody Johnson" Subject: Re: David Mingus Jimmy, Thank you for letting us know. My heart goes out to you in all directions. I did have the good fortune to spend a little time with David, once at Full Moon, and the other at the Joni tribute in NYC. In fact, Scott and I sat with him and David Rolls for dinner. His gift for storytelling was staggering. He joyfully enlightened us throughout dinner and up to dessert. At that point, he and I drifted off into endless Joni conversation. Wishing him, David and you strength and the ability to keep smiling. Love and Peace, Jody > I talked with David Rolls after my visit, and he told me > they will probably > be moving him to Hospice tomorrow or Thursday. I just want > you to all keep > him in your thoughts and prayers. He's fought for so long, > so maybe he can > keep fighting. He still has Joni with him. > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 18:18:01 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: David Mingus Thanks Jimmy. Tell David to the second power that I have them in my heart tonight and wish them both peace and love. Thanks for keeping us in the loop. Its fecking cold up here in the great NW. Good to be home tho. Love to all Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:38 PM, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: I just got off the phone with David Rolls. Mingus had a good day today, as good as they can be. He will be moved to Hospice tomorrow. I have printed all of your good thoughts and prayers for him, and will read them to him on Friday. Thanks for all your on list and off list messages to me. I told David Rolls about them, and he was so touched. You guys are the best! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:40:32 -0500 From: Jim Subject: timely quote Joni Mitchell said >> it's comin' on Christmas >> they're cuttin' down trees >> puttin' up reindeer >> singin' songs of joy and peace ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:48:04 -0500 From: Jim Subject: historical post asked about Joni's baby here's the 2nd post on the jmdl: - ------------------------------ From: methodistwhisper@juno.com (Jerold Lochart) Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 11:53:20 EDT Subject:Joni with child? One line that has always puzzled me is this one from Chinese Cafe: And my child's a stranger I bore her but I could not raise her Anyone know if this is an autobiographical line? I have always assumed most everythingJoni wrote is autobiographical (except Free Man In Paris)... Anyone know any details on this child she's talking about? - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:43:26 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: David Mingus On 1-Dec-10, at 7:38 PM, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Mingus had a good day today, as > good as they can be. He will be moved to Hospice tomorrow. I don't remember meeting these particular fellas in Saskatoon, though I was there and did sit at a table in the Bessborough with a group of JMDL'ers, and as is often the case when there are many new faces all at once, my memory doesn't serve me very well. But my thoughts are with you both, from here in snowy, cold Saskatchewan. Kate ~~ Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 20:16:00 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Tight little nuggets Well my smutty mind has always thought these lines were all in reference to a one-night stand type sexual encounter. The previous line 'Coward, slinking down the hall to another restless night' has always struck me as descriptive of someone sneaking (maybe down a hotel corridor) 'to the blackness and the blankets' to quote another Joni lyric. Centering behind the 8 ball = getting into position or maybe getting down to business, so to speak. As Bob said, 'rock between the sheets' is pretty self-explanatory. Finally, it has always seemed to me that 'the colored language off the farms and the streets' is a reference to either sexual banter or expletives (colorful language) uttered in the throes of passion. Language that is probably heard both on the farms and the streets of 'Good Old God Save America' (or anywhere) in one context or another. I must admit that I never thought about the phrase 'siphoned off' very much. It is an interesting choice of words. Sort of implies something liquid. But that's enough of that. As Oscar Wilde said, 'All of us are in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars'. Mark in Seattle (or Mind in the Gutter) - -----Original Message----- From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:23 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: Dave Blackburn ; Joni List Subject: RE: Tight little nuggets Both Coyote and DJRD (the song) were written together, and about her relationship to Sam Shepard, is that a fair statement? As we center behind the 8-ball: Joni is well-known to be a cracker-jack pool shark As we rock between the sheets: Don't need to explain that one, she & Sam were in a relationship As we siphon the colored language off the farms and the streets: They were/are both writers, drawing off experiences and environment and the duality of their day-to-day (I'm up all night in the studio while you're out early on your ranch"). I feel like this line in DJRD is an extension of the thought in Coyote. Just some random thoughts. Thanks Joni for constantly engaging my brain. Bob NP: Richard Thompson, "The Money Shuffle" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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