From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #291 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 20 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 291 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- [none] [Russell Bowden ] Re: [Lieve Reckers ] Dreamland Reissue [Gerald Notaro ] RE: DJRD Astrology and Scorpio Totems [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: DJRD Astrology and Scorpio Totems ["gene" ] RE: DJRD [Susan Tierney McNamara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 03:13:56 -0700 From: Russell Bowden Subject: [none] http://pajuhudi.t35.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:29:23 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Russell, I had better let you know: your yahoo email account has been highjacked by this spam sender. I have seen it happen to quite a few of my friends recently. Not sure what we can do to avoid this because we could all be next, so all advice would be welcome! Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Russell Bowden To: jenny.smick@gmail.com; jfberche@yahoo.com; jimmyjam01@aol.com; jimnoe3@sbcglobal.net; johnfcamajani@comcast.net; johnwilsonsf@gmail.com; joni@smoe.org; kennedy@imjustaguy.com; king@humnet.ucla.edu; k-j-i@msn.com Sent: Tue, 19 October, 2010 11:13:56 Subject: http://pajuhudi.t35.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:07:15 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Dreamland Reissue CD Japan is reissuing Dreamland in a new Japanese pressing. That is always good news because it means there is a demand, even though the reissue is limited. I used Google to translate the description. I think you will alll get a kick out of the translation: Priced-down reissue. [WARNER SUPER BEST40 2nd] 2nd Wanamyujikku Japan 40th Anniversary Campaign! The best singer-songwriter best compliment is always filled with respect to the best album of Joni Mitchell's first career. The selection of music carefully repeated deliberations themselves Joni lyrics and unique music, board must listen warm to the extraordinary can say crystal art! In best album also say the culmination of her career, "Light and Shadow of Youth" " Circle Game, "beginning with a number of hit songs collected safely be called classic rock now, one must for music fans but also fans! original master (Release at best), the original artwork (cover, booklet, etc.) come with bilingual commentary lyrics Jerry P.S. Bill Clinton is coming to my campus to speak today. The security here is incredible. NP on WMNF - Raul Malo - Superstar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:47:46 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: DJRD Astrology and Scorpio Totems Nice Jim. Good explanation. I also love duality themes. I have a fascination with the I Ching which most would suspect is because of Joni, but I actually started studying it way before I found out Joni was into it too. Life is a balancing act between the two opposites and it takes a lot of living in paradox to really see the benefits. I think that's why she says "We are all hopelessly oppressed cowards, Of some duality, Of restless multiplicity ..." Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jim L'Hommedieu Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:52 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: DJRD Astrology and Scorpio Totems I enjoyed reading your post about "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter". I'm going to expand on something you said. Here's a tip for the younger fans: a long time ago, an Indian chief was on the US nickel. Canada also has a 5 cent piece called a nickel. Mark, formerly known as Mark in Seattle, said in part >But nothing is totally one side or the other. Even the 'Chief' is a 'nickel Chief', referencing money and not worth much of that> Like so many things on DJRD, Hissing, and Hejira, she crams several things into just a few words. On the surface, she's just saying, "centered on Mother Earth, like the Indian chief who's face we see everyday." Then, as you said, she's has the joke about the nickel not being worth much in the world of capitalism. And finally, I think the nickel chief is another instance of one thing that is really two things (the duality theme). He has his noble, native American side, which is close to nature, and respecting the Mother Earth. He also has an urban side, his capitalist side, because his image has been co-opted for the money. His face is on the coin and the coin is going into a machine. It's a juke box, but it's still a machine and that's a contradiction or paradox. He's not a native American in the wild; he's an Indian on a nickel. He's both things at once, which is why he's in that song. He's the eagle and the serpent. There's a lot to think about in these albums. Sometimes, Joni's lyrics remind me of the Russian eggs we saw in school. Each one contains another, smaller egg, going on and on, smaller and smaller. The chief is noble but he's a nickel which is materialistic but he's producing music which bring us back to noblity, but it's pop music which brings us back to materialism. Is a nickel heads or tails? Wrong: it's both. And, of course, Joni lives in the city but she also lives in a cabin, without electricity. We think we know a lot about Joni, but then we find out that, to her friends, she's "Joan". Then we read the biography and find out that she's also "Roberta". Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Subject: Subject: Re: BSN in another language http://www.yhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruLwUanEJd0 Very nice. Interesting that Clay pretty much re-created the 2000 BSN version, including the phrasing. Now that the starmaker machinery has chewed him up and spit him out, Clay can do whatever he wants, without commercial pressures, if he chooses to. Have always enjoyed his voice, if not the material. Same for Elliott Yamin,now that boy can sing. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:01:51 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: DJRD Astrology and Scorpio Totems If this was Facebook---I would hit the "like" link. Always enjoy your insights Jim. peace~ gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:52 PM Subject: Re: DJRD Astrology and Scorpio Totems > I enjoyed reading your post about "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter". I'm > going to expand on something you said. Here's a tip for the younger > fans: a long time ago, an Indian chief was on the US nickel. Canada also > has a 5 cent piece called a nickel. > > Mark, formerly known as Mark in Seattle, said in part > >>But nothing is totally one side or the other. Even the 'Chief' is a > 'nickel Chief', referencing money and not worth much of that> > > Like so many things on DJRD, Hissing, and Hejira, she crams several > things into just a few words. On the surface, she's just saying, > "centered on Mother Earth, like the Indian chief who's face we see > everyday." Then, as you said, she's has the joke about the nickel not > being worth much in the world of capitalism. > > And finally, I think the nickel chief is another instance of one thing > that is really two things (the duality theme). He has his noble, native > American side, which is close to nature, and respecting the Mother > Earth. He also has an urban side, his capitalist side, because his image > has been co-opted for the money. His face is on the coin and the coin is > going into a machine. It's a juke box, but it's still a machine and > that's a contradiction or paradox. > > He's not a native American in the wild; he's an Indian on a nickel. > > He's both things at once, which is why he's in that song. He's the eagle > and the serpent. There's a lot to think about in these albums. > > Sometimes, Joni's lyrics remind me of the Russian eggs we saw in school. > Each one contains another, smaller egg, going on and on, smaller and > smaller. The chief is noble but he's a nickel which is materialistic but > he's producing music which bring us back to noblity, but it's pop music > which brings us back to materialism. > > Is a nickel heads or tails? Wrong: it's both. > > And, of course, Joni lives in the city but she also lives in a cabin, > without electricity. > > We think we know a lot about Joni, but then we find out that, to her > friends, she's "Joan". Then we read the biography and find out that > she's also "Roberta". > > Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:50:57 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: DJRD Thanks for the encouragement Bob, I am definitely going to give it a shot ... and add it to my Coyote set list!! :-) NP: that Jane Siberry video! Great! - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sartorius [mailto:bobsart48@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:01 PM To: joni@smoe.org; onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Cc: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #286 Last week Sue posted: "I don't think I've ever played this song, and I think it's because I find the melody boring. It's more Dylanesque in that it's really all about the lyrics. Now that I've said that, I think I need to play it. :-) Sue" Sue - even after discovering the Joni Tabs site that you created, it took me a few years to decide to give playing and singing DJRD a shot. It's got a back beat - you can't lose it. Well, maybe not a back beat, but the same beat as Rock And Roll Music, so if the beat is good enough for Chuck Berry, who sings about the back beat....................And the melody's Dylanesque all right, but it's there nevertheless. I suggest singing along with the song for a while. I'm betting you'll get into it. I think this is Joni's seminally autobiographical statement. I never fail to whoop when I listen to it. Bobsart ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #291 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe