From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #273 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, October 1 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 273 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Joni's philosophy ... the fungus is among us ["Allison Crowe Music" <] Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview [T Peckham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:21:57 -0700 From: "Allison Crowe Music" Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the fungus is among us Yes, please, Bob, when you can post that interview! Sounds fascinating. For decades, Joni has had to deal with people in the record industry. And, for many of the characters in this culture, fungus is a more than kind description. I have always found Joni's commentary on the industry and its players to be candid and truthful - which, means, quite often not popular. Thankfully, the balance of humanity offers more hope! slainte, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:24:25 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Thanks, Sue, for bringing this up, and thanks in advance, Bob--can't wait to hear it. T On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM, wrote: > That *IS* a great interview, Sue - I have it (thanks to Simon) and enjoyed > it when it came out. I'm not sure how many folks heard it and I don't > recall much discussion of it due to that fact. > > I'll put it out on Yousendit and maybe people will give it a listen and > talk about it. > > Bob > > NP: Union Of Sound, "Both Sides Now" > > - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:41:10 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview That'd be great Bob, I love a good Joni interview. I love the way she speaks, and yes, on print she can always sound a little dour but hearing the humour, then cadences, the layered way she speaks and thinks. Always a joy. Much Bobness Zooby On 29 September 2010 18:12, wrote: > That *IS* a great interview, Sue - I have it (thanks to Simon) and enjoyed > it when it came out. I'm not sure how many folks heard it and I don't > recall much discussion of it due to that fact. > > I'll put it out on Yousendit and maybe people will give it a listen and > talk about it. > > Bob > > -- Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/yapqx3j Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://www.voices.com/people/jamiezooby acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/965489410181 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 Website: http://www.jamiezubairi.com Randomly Related Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:05:03 +0200 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview >>That would be great, Bob. I'd love to hear it, especially the part about humans being a sort of fungus, which is often my thinking too, heh-heh.<< To paraphrase Sartre, something I am not given to doing every day, could we agree that Fungus is other people? mike in bcn np  Catch Meh Lover by JMC 3Veni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:21:59 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I like the paraphrase Mike:-) Don't you spend most days paraphrasing the likes of Sartre?? Let me just add to this discussion that fungus is actually kind of a fantastic and amazing thing (or collection of things really)!! Nature's recycler (if that's not a word, it really should be). While they can be destructive, the benefits that fungi have lent to medicine and the food/drinks industry, among others, are mind boggling. Let's not perpetuate the myth of fungus as a bad thing:-P GARRET On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Mike Pritchard wrote: > >>That would be great, Bob. I'd love to hear it, especially the part about > humans being a sort of fungus, which is often my thinking too, heh-heh.<< To > paraphrase Sartre, something I am not given to doing every day, could we > agree that Fungus is other people mike in bcn Catch Meh Lover by JMC 3Veni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:58:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview - the fungus among us Garrett wrote: I would love to hear it too, but i am not with the humans as fungus thing. If my memory of undergrad mycology serves, most yeast reproduce by budding and therefore members of the entire colony are identical. I think there is far too much variation between people (even within a culture) for this idea to make sense to me (course i could have that budding thing all arseways in my mind). Hi Garrett, If we were to look down through a microscope at humanity, we might not be able to see individual faces and other small variations and think humans were basically identical though somewhat different in color and size. We might even think they bud from each other as we see little ones come from big ones. And, with a good size difference between the observer and the observed, our big ears couldn't hear Joni sing nor anybody talking. Even with electron microscopy where we can see components of cell membranes, what we see might be very different from what we'd see if we were the same size as what we observed. I like to imagine these things when I am flying and looking down at the land. Houses and buildings have so many things unseeable from the sky as do trees with birds, squirrels and even ants in them. So what don't we know about yeast? A lot I would guess. And what do we miss in the way of comprehending ourselves because we can't see the view of ourselves from a distance? Joni's idea of humanity being like fungus that lives near water might be a pretty good description if we lose the intricacies we are familiar with and look at ourselves from space. She is definitely a visionary person. I really admire her ability to be synesthetic with words, colors, sizes, relationships, and music. Her songs are beautifully woven together and are interesting to me on all levels. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 05:35:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview - the fungus among us Laura: {Y]ou couldn't see a city On that marbled bowling ball Or a forest or a highway Or me here least of all Garret: Sometimes funghi = fun guy. Mwa ha ha! I remember growing pumpkins once and they were overtaken by funghi that reduced them to nothing in about 24 hours. Awesome. And I don't know about your summer weather and whether it's the cause, but I have seen some mighty peculiar-looking and humungous fungous recently on some trees at Queen's Park, near where I live. Creepy and yet extremely interesting. Did I want to touch them? No way! I didn't even want to get too close for fear of inhaling spores. I don't like eating mushrooms (in Italian, they're funghi), but antibiotics have helped me out more than once, so let's hear it for the funghi! ________________________________ From: Laura Stanley To: mcdermottgl@gmail.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 7:58:02 AM Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview - the fungus among us Garrett wrote: I would love to hear it too, but i am not with the humans as fungus thing. If my memory of undergrad mycology serves, most yeast reproduce by budding and therefore members of the entire colony are identical. I think there is far too much variation between people (even within a culture) for this idea to make sense to me (course i could have that budding thing all arseways in my mind). Hi Garrett, If we were to look down through a microscope at humanity, we might not be able to see individual faces and other small variations and think humans were basically identical though somewhat different in color and size. We might even think they bud from each other as we see little ones come from big ones. And, with a good size difference between the observer and the observed, our big ears couldn't hear Joni sing nor anybody talking. Even with electron microscopy where we can see components of cell membranes, what we see might be very different from what we'd see if we were the same size as what we observed. I like to imagine these things when I am flying and looking down at the land. Houses and buildings have so many things unseeable from the sky as do trees with birds, squirrels and even ants in them. So what don't we know about yeast? A lot I would guess. And what do we miss in the way of comprehending ourselves because we can't see the view of ourselves from a distance? Joni's idea of humanity being like fungus that lives near water might be a pretty good description if we lose the intricacies we are familiar with and look at ourselves from space. She is definitely a visionary person. I really admire her ability to be synesthetic with words, colors, sizes, relationships, and music. Her songs are beautifully woven together and are interesting to me on all levels. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:21:36 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview One of the most popular courses at Cornell is "MAGICAL MUSHROOMS, MISCHIEVOUS MOLDS," third in line behind "SLEEP 101" and "Introduction to Wines." :) http://www.plantpath.cornell.edu/Labs/Hudler/Syllabus_Magical.html ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell From: Garret [mailto:mcdermottgl@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:22 AM To: Mike Pritchard Cc: list; Bob Muller; Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I like the paraphrase Mike:-) Don't you spend most days paraphrasing the likes of Sartre?? Let me just add to this discussion that fungus is actually kind of a fantastic and amazing thing (or collection of things really)!! Nature's recycler (if that's not a word, it really should be). While they can be destructive, the benefits that fungi have lent to medicine and the food/drinks industry, among others, are mind boggling. Let's not perpetuate the myth of fungus as a bad thing:-P GARRET On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Mike Pritchard > wrote: >>That would be great, Bob. I'd love to hear it, especially the part about humans being a sort of fungus, which is often my thinking too, heh-heh.<< To paraphrase Sartre, something I am not given to doing every day, could we agree that Fungus is other people mike in bcn Catch Meh Lover by JMC 3Veni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:29:52 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview - the fungus among us On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > > I don't like eating mushrooms (in Italian, they're funghi), > > I'm with you, Catherine. I used to look at them at our big Italian dinners and yell there is fungus among us! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:57:51 -0500 From: Happy The Man Subject: John Kelly Retiring Paved Paradise for good http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:1091338 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:23:44 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: John Kelly Retiring Paved Paradise for good Sad to hear this. John is a true artist. Jerry On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Happy The Man wrote: > http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:1091338 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:37:25 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: John Kelly Retiring Paved Paradise for good Hi Craig I am thinking road trip to Austin. Will you be going to one of the performances? Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Happy The Man wrote: http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:1091338 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:37:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: Joni's philosophy -Are some fungi are beautiful? This topic is spreading like fungi Neat Fungus Exercise 1) type fungus into google and hit search 2) when results come up, select "images" 3) now aren't there some beautiful photos except every so often, ugly toes ruin the magical beauty of all the other fungi. Moral, some fungi are beautiful and some are not. Just like people. Wow, as I type this I can hear a frog screaming for help outside. I know the sound too well as he is being eaten by a snake under the house. Sorry frog, you're on your own. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:19:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: Re: John Kelly Retiring Paved Paradise for good Michael, do you know how far Marfa is from Austin? - --- On Thu, 9/30/10, Michael Paz wrote: From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: John Kelly Retiring Paved Paradise for good To: "Happy The Man" Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 2:37 PM Hi Craig I am thinking road trip to Austin. Will you be going to one of the performances? Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Happy The Man wrote: http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:1091338 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:53:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: Joni's philosophy - Worst pain in her life I like the interview a while back where she said the worst pain in her life was, "Manbs disrespect for nature." andB "Stupidity of the human animal in its relationship to the planet." B I think of it more as human laziness, greed,B and ignorance though stupidity is probably just as good of a description. B With that said, vegans can't be excluded from our planets problems.B B How many out there in Jonidom have heard of the "Dead Zone" in the Gulf of Mexico?B And this was a serious problem way before the BP spill and this year it is bigger than ever by most accounts.B And the Gulf Dead Zone's no. one cause is fromB "growing crops" in Mid America (yes vegans, it's your problem too). B I personally don't blame it on the Vegans out there but I think more of the blame should be put on the Fertilizer Chemical Companies, and ignorant,B lazy and/or greedy farmers. B For more info on the Dead Zone and theB ills of over use of fertilizer, see B http://serc.carleton.edu/microbelife/topics/deadzone/ The Gulf of Mexico Dead Zone It was a serious problem long before the BP oil spill. B http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/TOE61805G.htm Fertilizer overuse destroying Chinese soil b study B The aboveB are perfect examples of Joni'sB B "Stupidity of the human animal in its relationship to the planet." ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #273 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe