From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #272 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, September 30 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 272 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview [Susan Tierney McNamara <] Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview [Susan Tierney McNama] Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview [Catherine McKay Subject: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I've been rooting through my Joni stuff trying to see what I've accumulated over the years (mostly through the generosity of people on this list) and I found a CD of a radio interview from 2004 which Joni gave to promote the release of "Beginning of Survival" disc ... another one of those compilation discs which I decided not to buy because I had all the music. I guess I will have to get it now because the packaging described in this interview sounds wonderful. Joni's writings about the medicine wheel and several paintings and photographs ... Anyway, this interview was really great, Joni waxed Joni in her inimitable way about the decline of culture and the human race. My favorite quote happened when the interviewer asked her what kept her going and although she wanted to talk about a higher consciousness she started by saying something like, "I usually walk around thinking humans are a stupid fungus, kind of like a yeast, that gathers around the edges of water ... " There is also a discussion of meeting "Killer Kyle," her discussion of the medicine wheel, and talking about how George Bush was stupid ... I listened to this interview twice ... was there a discussion of this back in the day on the list? If so I would love to go back and read the posts ... or we could just talk about it now! :) What do you think about Joni's multifaceted philosophy of life? She also mentioned in the interview that when she writes her memoirs it will be mostly about her real life and not her show business life. Joni, please finish this book, I can't wait to read it!! Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:12:34 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview That *IS* a great interview, Sue - I have it (thanks to Simon) and enjoyed it when it came out. I'm not sure how many folks heard it and I don't recall much discussion of it due to that fact. I'll put it out on Yousendit and maybe people will give it a listen and talk about it. Bob NP: Union Of Sound, "Both Sides Now" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:22:35 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Thanks Bob, that would be great! I think this interview is also wonderful for showing what a truly great thinker Joni is. No wonder she talks so much, her brain must be going a mile a minute!! :) Sue From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:13 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview That *IS* a great interview, Sue - I have it (thanks to Simon) and enjoyed it when it came out. I'm not sure how many folks heard it and I don't recall much discussion of it due to that fact. I'll put it out on Yousendit and maybe people will give it a listen and talk about it. Bob NP: Union Of Sound, "Both Sides Now"------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:43:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview That would be great, Bob. I'd love to hear it, especially the part about humans being a sort of fungus, which is often my thinking too, heh-heh. ________________________________ From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 1:12:34 PM Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview That *IS* a great interview, Sue - I have it (thanks to Simon) and enjoyed it when it came out. I'm not sure how many folks heard it and I don't recall much discussion of it due to that fact. I'll put it out on Yousendit and maybe people will give it a listen and talk about it. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:06:41 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I would love to hear it too, but i am not with the humans as fungus thing. If my memory of undergrad mycology serves, most yeast reproduce by budding and therefore members of the entire colony are identical. I think there is far too much variation between people (even within a culture) for this idea to make sense to me (course i could have that budding thing all arseways in my mind). Joni starts sounding a bit disconnected from others at times, imo. I normall prefer not to know what she has to say. I am usually more interested in the music,but this one could warrant a listen. GARRET np - The Noisettes, Never Forget You On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > That would be great, Bob. I'd love to hear it, especially the part about > humans > being a sort of fungus, which is often my thinking too, heh-heh. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 1:12:34 PM > Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview > > That *IS* a great interview, Sue - I have it (thanks to Simon) and enjoyed > it when it came out. I'm not sure how many folks heard it and I don't > recall much discussion of it due to that fact. > > I'll put it out on Yousendit and maybe people will give it a listen and > talk about it. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:35:20 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Yes, I personally don't think humans are fungus either! And I've heard interviews with her where I actually wonder if she can really be that miserable, but this one is wonderful because she also talks a lot about spirituality, balance and even, miraculously, HOPE! I'll hold off discussing until more people have a chance to listen to it. Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:07 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: Bob.Muller@fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I would love to hear it too, but i am not with the humans as fungus thing. If my memory of undergrad mycology serves, most yeast reproduce by budding and therefore members of the entire colony are identical. I think there is far too much variation between people (even within a culture) for this idea to make sense to me (course i could have that budding thing all arseways in my mind). Joni starts sounding a bit disconnected from others at times, imo. I normall prefer not to know what she has to say. I am usually more interested in the music,but this one could warrant a listen. GARRET np - The Noisettes, Never Forget You On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > That would be great, Bob. I'd love to hear it, especially the part about > humans > being a sort of fungus, which is often my thinking too, heh-heh. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 1:12:34 PM > Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview > > That *IS* a great interview, Sue - I have it (thanks to Simon) and enjoyed > it when it came out. I'm not sure how many folks heard it and I don't > recall much discussion of it due to that fact. > > I'll put it out on Yousendit and maybe people will give it a listen and > talk about it. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Joni does come across as out of touch a lot of the time. Maybe she really IS out of touch. She is very opinionated and I imagine a lot of people would be intimidated by that and wouldn't argue with her, or might be shouted down. Maybe not so much shouted down as just talked a lot at. (How's that for a messed-up sentence?) I could be very mistaken. She does love to talk (she says so herself) and she goes off on some weird tangents at times. Maybe she hangs around with the same people all the time and doesn't necessarily get a well-rounded view of the world. If you just read what she says, she does come across as kind of miserable, but if you hear her, you also hear the humour. ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: Garret ; Catherine McKay Cc: "Bob.Muller@fluor.com" ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 2:35:20 PM Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Yes, I personally don't think humans are fungus either! And I've heard interviews with her where I actually wonder if she can really be that miserable, but this one is wonderful because she also talks a lot about spirituality, balance and even, miraculously, HOPE! I'll hold off discussing until more people have a chance to listen to it. Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:07 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: Bob.Muller@fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I would love to hear it too, but i am not with the humans as fungus thing. If my memory of undergrad mycology serves, most yeast reproduce by budding and therefore members of the entire colony are identical. I think there is far too much variation between people (even within a culture) for this idea to make sense to me (course i could have that budding thing all arseways in my mind). Joni starts sounding a bit disconnected from others at times, imo. I normall prefer not to know what she has to say. I am usually more interested in the music,but this one could warrant a listen. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview You know, I can understand her opinion on how humans are like a fungus. Some of them really are. Sometimes you look around at people and think, "wtf?" I'd agree that the level of compassion in humanity has really declined. You see people hurting each other on a daily basis and really think nothing of it-it is normal. When the day comes where you find a little hope, (someone opening a door for another, someone giving you the change you need to pay for your groceries-which happened to me last week when I was a dollar and some change short) that is amazing and out of the ordinary. In that sense, I agree with Joni. There is no such thing as common courtesy anymore. Joni is indeed a great thinker. This doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything she says but there is a lot going on in her head. It is great that she has given us such a gift that we can all cherish to the day we die (music, songs, melody). She obviously a very creative person. I don't need to tell you that. - -Mon ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Susan Tierney McNamara ; Garret Cc: "Bob.Muller@fluor.com" ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 2:55:10 PM Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Joni does come across as out of touch a lot of the time. Maybe she really IS out of touch. She is very opinionated and I imagine a lot of people would be intimidated by that and wouldn't argue with her, or might be shouted down. Maybe not so much shouted down as just talked a lot at. (How's that for a messed-up sentence?) I could be very mistaken. She does love to talk (she says so herself) and she goes off on some weird tangents at times. Maybe she hangs around with the same people all the time and doesn't necessarily get a well-rounded view of the world. If you just read what she says, she does come across as kind of miserable, but if you hear her, you also hear the humour. ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: Garret ; Catherine McKay Cc: "Bob.Muller@fluor.com" ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 2:35:20 PM Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Yes, I personally don't think humans are fungus either! And I've heard interviews with her where I actually wonder if she can really be that miserable, but this one is wonderful because she also talks a lot about spirituality, balance and even, miraculously, HOPE! I'll hold off discussing until more people have a chance to listen to it. Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:07 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: Bob.Muller@fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I would love to hear it too, but i am not with the humans as fungus thing. If my memory of undergrad mycology serves, most yeast reproduce by budding and therefore members of the entire colony are identical. I think there is far too much variation between people (even within a culture) for this idea to make sense to me (course i could have that budding thing all arseways in my mind). Joni starts sounding a bit disconnected from others at times, imo. I normall prefer not to know what she has to say. I am usually more interested in the music,but this one could warrant a listen. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:47:14 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview She really was getting on the culture of violent cruelty and felt that most entertainment has to do with graphic violence (much like the blood sport of the roman empire as it was falling). She mentioned that her favorite TV show was Northern Exposure. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Monika Bogdanowicz Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:19 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview You know, I can understand her opinion on how humans are like a fungus. Some of them really are. Sometimes you look around at people and think, "wtf?" I'd agree that the level of compassion in humanity has really declined. You see people hurting each other on a daily basis and really think nothing of it-it is normal. When the day comes where you find a little hope, (someone opening a door for another, someone giving you the change you need to pay for your groceries-which happened to me last week when I was a dollar and some change short) that is amazing and out of the ordinary. In that sense, I agree with Joni. There is no such thing as common courtesy anymore. Joni is indeed a great thinker. This doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything she says but there is a lot going on in her head. It is great that she has given us such a gift that we can all cherish to the day we die (music, songs, melody). She obviously a very creative person. I don't need to tell you that. - -Mon ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Susan Tierney McNamara ; Garret Cc: "Bob.Muller@fluor.com" ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 2:55:10 PM Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Joni does come across as out of touch a lot of the time. Maybe she really IS out of touch. She is very opinionated and I imagine a lot of people would be intimidated by that and wouldn't argue with her, or might be shouted down. Maybe not so much shouted down as just talked a lot at. (How's that for a messed-up sentence?) I could be very mistaken. She does love to talk (she says so herself) and she goes off on some weird tangents at times. Maybe she hangs around with the same people all the time and doesn't necessarily get a well-rounded view of the world. If you just read what she says, she does come across as kind of miserable, but if you hear her, you also hear the humour. ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: Garret ; Catherine McKay Cc: "Bob.Muller@fluor.com" ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 2:35:20 PM Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview Yes, I personally don't think humans are fungus either! And I've heard interviews with her where I actually wonder if she can really be that miserable, but this one is wonderful because she also talks a lot about spirituality, balance and even, miraculously, HOPE! I'll hold off discussing until more people have a chance to listen to it. Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:07 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: Bob.Muller@fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I would love to hear it too, but i am not with the humans as fungus thing. If my memory of undergrad mycology serves, most yeast reproduce by budding and therefore members of the entire colony are identical. I think there is far too much variation between people (even within a culture) for this idea to make sense to me (course i could have that budding thing all arseways in my mind). Joni starts sounding a bit disconnected from others at times, imo. I normall prefer not to know what she has to say. I am usually more interested in the music,but this one could warrant a listen. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:02:53 +0100 From: "John McGloin" Subject: RE: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview We are stardust, we are fungus. That's one hell of a devolutionary step... and it took less than 50 years. Cheers John - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Susan Tierney McNamara Sent: 29 September 2010 17:42 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni's philosophy ... the Radioactive interview I've been rooting through my Joni stuff trying to see what I've accumulated over the years (mostly through the generosity of people on this list) and I found a CD of a radio interview from 2004 which Joni gave to promote the release of "Beginning of Survival" disc ... another one of those compilation discs which I decided not to buy because I had all the music. I guess I will have to get it now because the packaging described in this interview sounds wonderful. Joni's writings about the medicine wheel and several paintings and photographs ... Anyway, this interview was really great, Joni waxed Joni in her inimitable way about the decline of culture and the human race. My favorite quote happened when the interviewer asked her what kept her going and although she wanted to talk about a higher consciousness she started by saying something like, "I usually walk around thinking humans are a stupid fungus, kind of like a yeast, that gathers around the edges of water ... " There is also a discussion of meeting "Killer Kyle," her discussion of the medicine wheel, and talking about how George Bush was stupid ... I listened to this interview twice ... was there a discussion of this back in the day on the list? If so I would love to go back and read the posts ... or we could just talk about it now! :) What do you think about Joni's multifaceted philosophy of life? She also mentioned in the interview that when she writes her memoirs it will be mostly about her real life and not her show business life. Joni, please finish this book, I can't wait to read it!! Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #272 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe