From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #225 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, August 14 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 225 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: If there's a Joni biopic [William Waddell ] Re: If there's a Joni biopic. [Dave Blackburn ] RE: If there's a Joni biopic. [Susan Tierney McNamara ] ritchie hayward rip ["peterh" ] Laura Linney as Joni [Walt Breen ] Re: If there's a Joni biopic. ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:42:59 +0000 From: William Waddell Subject: RE: If there's a Joni biopic >>>I hope Laura Linney gets to play Joni I've often thought Samantha Womack or Natasha Bedingfield would get a second audition. WtS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:28:50 +0200 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: Re: Song For Sharon - stream of (my) (sub) consciousness? Dave pointed out that... Wessex was one of the sub-kingdoms of Saxon period England ie not fictional. The name is no longer used, but oddly, Essex and Sussex remain. You can see where our West, East, and South terms come from. Even more odd is there was never. to my knowledge, a North (Nossex?) And I say... And then there are the three Ridings in Yorkshire, England. There is/was/has been since Viking times a North, a West and an East Riding but no South Riding, except in a novel not written by Thomas Hardy. Why three and not four? Because in Old Norse (hello Bene and Oddmund) the word which later became /riding/ referred to a third part of a whole. I cant explain the nossex thing but let us not forget Middlesex too if were talking about sex. mike in bcn np Key to the Highway  Big Bill Broonzy (thank you, Mojo magazine) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:02:20 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: If there's a Joni biopic. I'm not sure what kind of an actress she is, but I always thought Aimee Mann would be great casting for a Joni movie. But the problem is if it's a full career movie, a young amazing unknown actress who could grow into the older parts would be great. Although, I'm on the fence about whether a movie would be a good idea. Biographies walk a fine line between good filmmaking and cheese. I'm thinking of the second half of the Judy Garland TV movie where Judy Davis went full out amazing ... I would love to see an actress like that make the part her own. I really like Laura Linney but I'm not sure she's the one. Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:35:11 -0700 From: Russell Bowden Subject: If there's a Joni biopic. Gang, I hope Laura Linney gets to play Joni if the need arises for an excellent actress to play Our Queen. Just saw her on the Daily Show and was struck at the resemblance. Wow. Love, Russ in Alameda, CA Sotto voce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:36:30 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. I've always thought Mia Farrow was the most dead-on lookalike for Joni, but someone else would need to play the young Joni, as you say Sue. I think Hilary Swank would be a great choice. Maybe it's the teeth. She's also an amazing actress who totally transforms herself for a part. Dave On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I'm not sure what kind of an actress she is, but I always thought Aimee Mann would be great casting for a Joni movie. But the problem is if it's a full career movie, a young amazing unknown actress who could grow into the older parts would be great. Although, I'm on the fence about whether a movie would be a good idea. Biographies walk a fine line between good filmmaking and cheese. I'm thinking of the second half of the Judy Garland TV movie where Judy Davis went full out amazing ... I would love to see an actress like that make the part her own. I really like Laura Linney but I'm not sure she's the one. > > Sue > > > ___________________ > /___________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue Tierney || > || McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:35:11 -0700 > From: Russell Bowden > Subject: If there's a Joni biopic. > > Gang, > > I hope Laura Linney gets to play Joni if the need arises for an excellent > actress to play Our Queen. Just saw her on the Daily Show and was struck at > the resemblance. Wow. > > Love, > Russ in Alameda, CA > > > Sotto voce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:43:26 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: If there's a Joni biopic. I think the main element of Joni's personality that needs to be nailed in a role like this is the balance between the frail flower and the powerful TALENT ... I think of the opening scene of Joni standing on a club stage in detroit looking like a shy prom queen but playing Cactus Tree or Both Sides Now for the first time, fully in control. It's such a thrilling paradox. Mia does look like Joni but she would get the frail side maybe not the Master. Hilary is great, too. Maybe. Scorcese directing? Discuss ... :-) - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 10:37 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; jonilist JMDL Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. I've always thought Mia Farrow was the most dead-on lookalike for Joni, but someone else would need to play the young Joni, as you say Sue. I think Hilary Swank would be a great choice. Maybe it's the teeth. She's also an amazing actress who totally transforms herself for a part. Dave On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I'm not sure what kind of an actress she is, but I always thought Aimee Mann would be great casting for a Joni movie. But the problem is if it's a full career movie, a young amazing unknown actress who could grow into the older parts would be great. Although, I'm on the fence about whether a movie would be a good idea. Biographies walk a fine line between good filmmaking and cheese. I'm thinking of the second half of the Judy Garland TV movie where Judy Davis went full out amazing ... I would love to see an actress like that make the part her own. I really like Laura Linney but I'm not sure she's the one. > > Sue > > > ___________________ > /___________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue Tierney || > || McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:35:11 -0700 > From: Russell Bowden > Subject: If there's a Joni biopic. > > Gang, > > I hope Laura Linney gets to play Joni if the need arises for an excellent > actress to play Our Queen. Just saw her on the Daily Show and was struck at > the resemblance. Wow. > > Love, > Russ in Alameda, CA > > > Sotto voce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:15:27 -0700 From: "peterh" Subject: ritchie hayward rip ritchie hayward, beloved member of little feat, and former topanga resident died yesterday. lesli ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:42:15 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: Laura Linney as Joni Hi guys, Rusas Bowden suggested Laura Linney as the best choice to play Joni if a bio pic ahould come up, and I strongly agree. She's a top-notch actress. Her best performance so far for me was playing Ralph Kinsey's wife on his biopic - -- I think she got an oscar nomination for that, may not be the only one she's gotten. She's currently promoting a HBO movie or miniseries called "The C-word" about a woman coping with a terminal cancer diagnosis. Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:52:32 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. I agree with you, Dave. The young Mia Farrow and the young Joni were very similar in the looks department - the big beautiful eyes, the blonde hair, the amazing cheek bones. There was also a more subjective common quality about the faces of these two women in their younger days. Wistful? Winsome? Soulful? Hard to pin it down. I don't know who I would cast in a biopic about Joni and, like Sue, I have my reservations about a movie being made of Joni's life. In some ways it makes me cringe at how it could so easily get botched. And I agree, Sue, that Judy Davis was great as the adult Judy Garland. Tammy Blanchard was great as Judy in her younger years as well. The most impressive example that comes to mind of an actor who managed to pull off playing a famous entertainer from young adulthood up into her later years was Marion Cotillard as Edith Piaf in 'La Vie En Rose'. Although I really wanted Julie Christie to win the Oscar in 2008 for 'Away From Her', I must admit that when I finally got 'La Vie En Rose' from Netflix I was bowled over by Cotillard's portrayal of Piaf. But I'm not suggesting that she should play Joni. I really don't know who could do justice to Joni's life and personality. It would have to be someone at the right age, with the right look and with tremendous skill and range. Maybe Cate Blanchett? She pretty much nailed Katharine Hepburn in 'The Aviator' and she looks a bit like Joni. She is 41 but looks amazing so she might be able to stretch from the tentative young coffee-house performer to the out-spoken, world famous grandmother of the present day. So what if she's Australian (so is Judy Davis, btw)? If she could so uncannily evoke Hepburn's unmistakable east-coast-Bryn-Mawr voice, I don't see why she couldn't sound like a Canadian prairie girl. Then there is the whole question of whether the chosen performer should actually sing or lip-synch. In my opinion, Cissy Spacek as Loretta Lynn in 'Coal Miner's Daughter' is the gold standard for an actor actually doing the singing in a movie about a famous singer. But is there an actor who could *both* act and sing the part of Joni Mitchell successfully? That's a pretty tall order! Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Blackburn" Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:36 AM To: "Susan Tierney McNamara" ; "jonilist JMDL" Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. > I've always thought Mia Farrow was the most dead-on lookalike for Joni, > but someone else would need to play the young Joni, as you say Sue. I > think Hilary Swank would be a great choice. Maybe it's the teeth. She's > also an amazing actress who totally transforms herself for a part. > > Dave > > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > >> I'm not sure what kind of an actress she is, but I always thought Aimee >> Mann would be great casting for a Joni movie. But the problem is if it's >> a full career movie, a young amazing unknown actress who could grow into >> the older parts would be great. Although, I'm on the fence about whether >> a movie would be a good idea. Biographies walk a fine line between good >> filmmaking and cheese. I'm thinking of the second half of the Judy >> Garland TV movie where Judy Davis went full out amazing ... I would love >> to see an actress like that make the part her own. I really like Laura >> Linney but I'm not sure she's the one. >> >> Sue >> >> >> ___________________ >> /___________________\ >> ||-------------------|| >> || Sue Tierney || >> || McNamara || >> || sem8@cornell.edu || >> ||___________________|| >> || O etch-a-sketch O || >> \___________________/ >> >> "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:35:11 -0700 >> From: Russell Bowden >> Subject: If there's a Joni biopic. >> >> Gang, >> >> I hope Laura Linney gets to play Joni if the need arises for an excellent >> actress to play Our Queen. Just saw her on the Daily Show and was struck >> at >> the resemblance. Wow. >> >> Love, >> Russ in Alameda, CA >> >> >> Sotto voce ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #225 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe