From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #177 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, June 28 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 177 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- 1983 version of Cotton Avenue [Deb Messling ] Re: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered with more JC [Rick & Susan Subject: 1983 version of Cotton Avenue Somehow I never heard this version. I'd be curious to hear people's opinions of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZsJbTggLE&feature=related - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:39:12 -0700 From: Rick & Susan Subject: Re: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered with more JC Before the Mariposa Folk Festival moved to Toronto Island, it was held north of the city in a small town called Orillia on the shore of Lake Simcoe. This excerpt from the official history of the Mariposa validates Joni's memories of her early days at the festival: "1963 was a different story and a turning point in the history of the festival. Over 8000 tickets sold in advance and, by the festival weekend, festival goers nearly outnumbered the townsfolk. Restaurants ran out of food, the roads and highways were jammed, and crowding and confusion reigned. The small police force was overwhelmed as it struggled to cope with the crowds, the drunkenness, and the petty vandalism. The backlash from the townsfolk and their elected officials was quick and unkind. The days of Mariposa Folk Festival in Orillia were, so it seemed, done. The folkies and their rowdy behaviour were no longer welcome." I saw Joni several times at Mariposa in Toronto and those memories are some of my most treasured. Rick On 6/24/10 10:24 AM, "Gerald Notaro" wrote: > I first encountered Joni at The Mariposa Folk Festival in Toronto. I used to > drive up from Buffalo. I think this is another case of Joni expounding and > exaggerating on the detail for what gets attention (Bob Dylan.) I can't > imagine anyone shouting this to her onstage. The audiences I saw there were > always serious and respectful. It wasn't a place that people just wandered > into expecting to hear rock and roll. You had to take a Ferry over from > downtown Toronto and the whole place was a cultural event. But that's our > Joni! > > Jerry > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > >> although released in 2008, I only recently became aware >> of the ReIssue of one of Tom Rush's early albums. >> >> The CIRCLE GAME >> Digitally Remastered - Expanded 40th Anniversary Edition >> >> >> >> >> Finally! they've included the 45rpm Single version of >> URGE FOR GOING. there's also new a 1st Take version >> of The CIRCLE GAME. TIN ANGEL was also included on >> the original 1968 Album. >> >> written in 1965, URGE FOR GOING was one of Joni's first 7-or-8 songs, >> along with The CIRCLE GAME, which preceded it by several months. >> >> here's some info from a Profile / Interview >> >> -------------------- >> ZigZag Magazine >> Feb. 1977 >> >> Sankey Phillips & Dave Wilson report. >> >> >> JM: URGE FOR GOING I wrote after the second Mariposa I ever went >> to ... >> >> >> ZZ: What exactly was The Mariposa? >> >> JM: A folk festival which was held in Ontario every summer. The first >> one I went to, I went solely to watch... and the second time I went, >> I was a performer. That was the first year I was married, and that was >> a very bad year... it seemed to be full of drunks and people looking for >> action rather than music - so I was pretty unprepared. >> >> I wanted to do all my own material, I didn't have much variety. I wasn't >> very good, and I had a lot of trouble with the audience booing and hissing >> and saying "Take your clothes off, sweetheart!" Things like that really >> shook >> me up because I didn't know how to counter or how to act. I thought I'd >> bombed, I wanted to quit and I was really desperate. On the way back, in >> the car I wrote a line that said "It's like running for a train that left >> the >> station hours ago / I've got the urge for going but there's no place left >> to go". >> What I really meant was that the folk movement had died at that point, >> and that the music I loved had no audience left ... it was futile and it >> was >> silly, and I may as well quit. >> >> So then I forgot about the line, and then one day I was cleaning out my >> guitar >> case which is usually full of scrap songs, lyrics live started - and I came >> across >> that piece of paper. I used to clean the case out every so often, and read >> all >> the notes over - and I would sometimes find something where I couldn't even >> remember what the original thought was...but the line would stir up a whole >> fresh idea, completely new. That is what happened with Urge For Going. >> I wrote that in Aug., and the next thing I knew it was Sept. and then Oct. >> I was really cold, and I was saying "I hate winter and I really have the >> urge >> for going someplace warm", and I remembered that line. >> So I wrote URGE FOR GOING from that. >> >> ZZ: And Tom Rush happened to pick up on it? >> >> JM: Actually, Dave van Ronk was the first. I met Dave and Patrick Sky in >> Winnipeg in Sept. or Oct. - I had just written it so it must have >> been >> October. They were doing a Canadian television show called Let's Sing Out, >> and I thought that once again ... it was sort of following Mariposa, I was >> shaky and thought I was awful and amateurish and I wasn't growing fast >> enough. And I could feel how good my peers were; I could feel how >> amateurish >> I was, and I really needed encouragement. They didn't give me any as far as >> I could see. Van Ronk was saying things like "Joni, you've really got >> groovy >> taste in clothes, why don't you become a fashion model?" And Patrick Sky >> was saying "It sucks". But Dave did like URGE FOR GOING and he asked >> me for it, I remember. I wondered what ulterior motive he had in mind >> after saying all those dreadful things to me. "He must just want to laugh >> at it or something". I was that insecure about my writing. >> I really thought it was awful. >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> you can read the entire article in the JoniMitchell.com Library >> at >> >> the ZigZag article is actually an expansion of an earlier interview >> published in >> The Broadside. THAT interview can be found in the Joni Mitchell.com Library >> at >> >> the ZigZag article is one of the -3- most important articles in the >> Library. >> it contains a variety of insights and information regarding the earliest >> period of Joni's career. >> >> >> >> >> andmoreagain, >> - - - - - - - - - >> s i m o n >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:08:51 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: Video addition in the Library: Number One Another video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Number One - Amnesty International - New Jersey 1986 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=209 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #177 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe