From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #174 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, June 25 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 174 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Buddy Zoloth's Address Book ["Snatch N. Grabster" ] New Book_The Words and Music of Joni Mitchell [simon@icu.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #173 [Maggie McNally ] Re: New Book_The Words and Music of Joni Mitchell [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] CHEAP Joni Mitchell CD's at Barnes & Noble [est86mlm@ameritech.net] PS: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered [simon@icu.com] Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered [simon@icu.com] Re: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered [Gerald Notaro Subject: Buddy Zoloth's Address Book On a recent episode of Pawn Stars (History Channel) someone tried to sell them an old address book that once belonged to music manager Buddy Zoloth. They said he was Stephen Stills' manager in the early 1970s. Supposedly, the book has 1970s-era phone numbers and addresses for everyone who was anyone in teh LA music scene. The Pawn Stars guys supposedly tried calling the number for Neil Young but it was disconnected. When they showed some of the pages in the book you could see there was a listing for Grace Slick too. You would think that Joni was in there too. However, the pawn shop guys took a pass on the book, claiming it had little value. The guy who brought it in said he found it in a garage, I recall. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:12:26 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: A smidge of Joni news I liked Cactus Tree in A Walk On The Moon. I'm currently watching six feet under on DVD and in the second season there's an episode called Back to the Garden, with a fairly significant and touching Woodstock moment. I always wanted a Joni song in the Sopranos; never happened. GARRET On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:09 PM, wrote: > That's really great, Gina - that was definitely a SIGNIFICANT Joni moment > in film - and there have been quite a few. > > Bob > > NP: Andy Partridge, "Great Fire" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:31 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: New Book_The Words and Music of Joni Mitchell JMDL members will be interested in a recently published book. The Words and Music of Joni Mitchell by James Bennighof (The Praeger Singer-Songwriter Collection - Hardcover) you'll find it listed on Amazon.com at the following URL: I scanned a generous sampling for JMDL members. you can DownLoad the pdf.file, via YouSendIt, at this URL: Enjoy. it's a good read andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance or conscientious stupidity. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Maggie McNally Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #173 Gina, That is such a lovely way in to the wonderful land of JM. I must to admit to more than a tad bit of envy that with that one scene you had the entire world of Joni Mitchell - her music, her words, her personne - to discover. Thank you for sharing. Maggie - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:05:17 -0300 From: Gina Del Piero Subject: Re: A smidge of Joni news >>Who knows? May be a pathway for some folks to discover Joni. I can say that I have discovered a couple of artists from hearing their songs in film. i am PROUD to say i discovered joni through a movie!! love actually, actually-- when i was fifteen or sixteen i think it was (now im 18 haha) that i got very intrigued about joni when emma thompson said >(now googling the quote) "Joni Mitchell is the woman who taught your cold English wife how to feel." effectively, both sides now was the background to the best scene in the movie and each time i see it, my eyes fill with tears at the memory of the first time i heard joni. the rest is history... now i echo e.thompson: "I love her and true love lasts a lifetime." Gina.- _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail es seguridad y confianza. Con el Filtro Anti Spam mejorado protegis tu cuenta. Ver mas http://www.descubrehotmail.com/anti-spam.asp - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:09:59 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: A smidge of Joni news That's really great, Gina - that was definitely a SIGNIFICANT Joni moment in film - and there have been quite a few. Bob NP: Andy Partridge, "Great Fire" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #173 ********************************* - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:17:25 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: New Book_The Words and Music of Joni Mitchell I'm in the middle of it...it has been very enjoyable for the most part - there's some brief bio information, and a musical and lyrical breakdown of all of her songs. A lot of what he says musically is above my level of musical knowledge, and he glosses over most of the songs lyrically, but you have to really or else you'd end up with something as thick as War and Peace. And...he mentions JM.com and my Undercovers page a couple times too which is pretty neat-o. Bob NP: Dave Gilmour, "Take A Breath" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:18:11 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: CHEAP Joni Mitchell CD's at Barnes & Noble CD's are reduced this week at Barnes & Nobel http://productsearch.barnesandnoble.com/search/results.aspx?store=MUSIC&WRD=Joni+MItchell Shipping is FREE if you spend $25.00 total for anything at B&N Clouds $5.99 Court & Spark $5.99 Ladies of the Canyon $5.99 Hejira $5.99 Mingus $5.99 Don Juan's Reckless Daughter $5.99 Turbulent Indigo $7.01 Laura ***************************** NJC below.....but you can win CASH to pay for the CD's. http://www.yahoogrownupssweeps.com/ Ends June 27 https://marzetti.promo.eprize.com/americanfare/ Ends July 31 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:38:55 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: PS: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered in a previous message, I mentioned ... > although released in 2008, I only recently became aware > of the ReIssue of one of Tom Rush's early albums. > > The CIRCLE GAME > Digitally Remastered - Expanded 40th Anniversary Edition > > > > Finally! they've included the 45rpm Single version of > URGE FOR GOING. there's also new a 1st Take version > of The CIRCLE GAME. TIN ANGEL was also included on > the original 1968 Album. > > written in 1965, URGE FOR GOING was one of Joni's first > 7-or-8 songs, along with The CIRCLE GAME, which preceded > it by several months. > ------------------------- I UpLoaded -4- songs from the new ReIssue for those who want to check it out before purchasing. 1. Urge For Going [Single Version] 2. Urge For Going [Remastered Album Version] 3. The Circle Game [Take One] 4. The Circle Game [Remastered Album Version] you can download the mp3 versions at the following URL: for those who prefer the Real Deal, you can download the 16 Bit/44k, aiff.CD Quality versions at the following URL: I also scanned and UpLoaded certain interesting, relevant excerpts from -6- issues of The BROADSIDE: Folk Music & Coffee House News. they can be downloaded @ It's worth noting that Tom Rush was the 1st performer to record one of Joni's songs. Tom's CIRCLE GAME Album also included songs by James Taylor and Jackson Browne. this was the first time any of Their songs were recorded. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:30:41 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered although released in 2008, I only recently became aware of the ReIssue of one of Tom Rush's early albums. The CIRCLE GAME Digitally Remastered - Expanded 40th Anniversary Edition Finally! they've included the 45rpm Single version of URGE FOR GOING. there's also new a 1st Take version of The CIRCLE GAME. TIN ANGEL was also included on the original 1968 Album. written in 1965, URGE FOR GOING was one of Joni's first 7-or-8 songs, along with The CIRCLE GAME, which preceded it by several months. here's some info from a Profile / Interview - -------------------- ZigZag Magazine Feb. 1977 Sankey Phillips & Dave Wilson report. JM: URGE FOR GOING I wrote after the second Mariposa I ever went to ... ZZ: What exactly was The Mariposa? JM: A folk festival which was held in Ontario every summer. The first one I went to, I went solely to watch... and the second time I went, I was a performer. That was the first year I was married, and that was a very bad year... it seemed to be full of drunks and people looking for action rather than music - so I was pretty unprepared. I wanted to do all my own material, I didn't have much variety. I wasn't very good, and I had a lot of trouble with the audience booing and hissing and saying "Take your clothes off, sweetheart!" Things like that really shook me up because I didn't know how to counter or how to act. I thought I'd bombed, I wanted to quit and I was really desperate. On the way back, in the car I wrote a line that said "It's like running for a train that left the station hours ago / I've got the urge for going but there's no place left to go". What I really meant was that the folk movement had died at that point, and that the music I loved had no audience left ... it was futile and it was silly, and I may as well quit. So then I forgot about the line, and then one day I was cleaning out my guitar case which is usually full of scrap songs, lyrics live started - and I came across that piece of paper. I used to clean the case out every so often, and read all the notes over - and I would sometimes find something where I couldn't even remember what the original thought was...but the line would stir up a whole fresh idea, completely new. That is what happened with Urge For Going. I wrote that in Aug., and the next thing I knew it was Sept. and then Oct. I was really cold, and I was saying "I hate winter and I really have the urge for going someplace warm", and I remembered that line. So I wrote URGE FOR GOING from that. ZZ: And Tom Rush happened to pick up on it? JM: Actually, Dave van Ronk was the first. I met Dave and Patrick Sky in Winnipeg in Sept. or Oct. - I had just written it so it must have been October. They were doing a Canadian television show called Let's Sing Out, and I thought that once again ... it was sort of following Mariposa, I was shaky and thought I was awful and amateurish and I wasn't growing fast enough. And I could feel how good my peers were; I could feel how amateurish I was, and I really needed encouragement. They didn't give me any as far as I could see. Van Ronk was saying things like "Joni, you've really got groovy taste in clothes, why don't you become a fashion model?" And Patrick Sky was saying "It sucks". But Dave did like URGE FOR GOING and he asked me for it, I remember. I wondered what ulterior motive he had in mind after saying all those dreadful things to me. "He must just want to laugh at it or something". I was that insecure about my writing. I really thought it was awful. - --------------------------------- you can read the entire article in the JoniMitchell.com Library at the ZigZag article is actually an expansion of an earlier interview published in The Broadside. THAT interview can be found in the Joni Mitchell.com Library at the ZigZag article is one of the -3- most important articles in the Library. it contains a variety of insights and information regarding the earliest period of Joni's career. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:24:10 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered I first encountered Joni at The Mariposa Folk Festival in Toronto. I used to drive up from Buffalo. I think this is another case of Joni expounding and exaggerating on the detail for what gets attention (Bob Dylan.) I can't imagine anyone shouting this to her onstage. The audiences I saw there were always serious and respectful. It wasn't a place that people just wandered into expecting to hear rock and roll. You had to take a Ferry over from downtown Toronto and the whole place was a cultural event. But that's our Joni! Jerry On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > although released in 2008, I only recently became aware > of the ReIssue of one of Tom Rush's early albums. > > The CIRCLE GAME > Digitally Remastered - Expanded 40th Anniversary Edition > > > > > Finally! they've included the 45rpm Single version of > URGE FOR GOING. there's also new a 1st Take version > of The CIRCLE GAME. TIN ANGEL was also included on > the original 1968 Album. > > written in 1965, URGE FOR GOING was one of Joni's first 7-or-8 songs, > along with The CIRCLE GAME, which preceded it by several months. > > here's some info from a Profile / Interview > > -------------------- > ZigZag Magazine > Feb. 1977 > > Sankey Phillips & Dave Wilson report. > > > JM: URGE FOR GOING I wrote after the second Mariposa I ever went > to ... > > > ZZ: What exactly was The Mariposa? > > JM: A folk festival which was held in Ontario every summer. The first > one I went to, I went solely to watch... and the second time I went, > I was a performer. That was the first year I was married, and that was > a very bad year... it seemed to be full of drunks and people looking for > action rather than music - so I was pretty unprepared. > > I wanted to do all my own material, I didn't have much variety. I wasn't > very good, and I had a lot of trouble with the audience booing and hissing > and saying "Take your clothes off, sweetheart!" Things like that really > shook > me up because I didn't know how to counter or how to act. I thought I'd > bombed, I wanted to quit and I was really desperate. On the way back, in > the car I wrote a line that said "It's like running for a train that left > the > station hours ago / I've got the urge for going but there's no place left > to go". > What I really meant was that the folk movement had died at that point, > and that the music I loved had no audience left ... it was futile and it > was > silly, and I may as well quit. > > So then I forgot about the line, and then one day I was cleaning out my > guitar > case which is usually full of scrap songs, lyrics live started - and I came > across > that piece of paper. I used to clean the case out every so often, and read > all > the notes over - and I would sometimes find something where I couldn't even > remember what the original thought was...but the line would stir up a whole > fresh idea, completely new. That is what happened with Urge For Going. > I wrote that in Aug., and the next thing I knew it was Sept. and then Oct. > I was really cold, and I was saying "I hate winter and I really have the > urge > for going someplace warm", and I remembered that line. > So I wrote URGE FOR GOING from that. > > ZZ: And Tom Rush happened to pick up on it? > > JM: Actually, Dave van Ronk was the first. I met Dave and Patrick Sky in > Winnipeg in Sept. or Oct. - I had just written it so it must have > been > October. They were doing a Canadian television show called Let's Sing Out, > and I thought that once again ... it was sort of following Mariposa, I was > shaky and thought I was awful and amateurish and I wasn't growing fast > enough. And I could feel how good my peers were; I could feel how > amateurish > I was, and I really needed encouragement. They didn't give me any as far as > I could see. Van Ronk was saying things like "Joni, you've really got > groovy > taste in clothes, why don't you become a fashion model?" And Patrick Sky > was saying "It sucks". But Dave did like URGE FOR GOING and he asked > me for it, I remember. I wondered what ulterior motive he had in mind > after saying all those dreadful things to me. "He must just want to laugh > at it or something". I was that insecure about my writing. > I really thought it was awful. > --------------------------------- > > > you can read the entire article in the JoniMitchell.com Library > at > > the ZigZag article is actually an expansion of an earlier interview > published in > The Broadside. THAT interview can be found in the Joni Mitchell.com Library > at > > the ZigZag article is one of the -3- most important articles in the > Library. > it contains a variety of insights and information regarding the earliest > period of Joni's career. > > > > > andmoreagain, > - - - - - - - - - > s i m o n > > http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm > http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm > http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm > http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm > http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:32:39 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Joni expounding & exaggerating On Jun 24, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Gerald Notaro wrote: > I first encountered Joni at The Mariposa Folk Festival in Toronto. > I used to drive up from Buffalo. I think this is another case of Joni > expounding and exaggerating on the detail for what gets attention > (Bob Dylan.) I can't imagine anyone shouting this to her onstage. > The audiences I saw there were always serious and respectful. > It wasn't a place that people just wandered into expecting to hear > rock and roll. You had to take a Ferry over from downtown Toronto > and the whole place was a cultural event. But that's our Joni! > > Jerry > ------ perhaps but ... it is in Joni's nature to remember the negative response of one A*Hole instead of the positive response from the rest of the audience. I would also point out that this recollection was first mentioned in an interview originally published on Feb. 14, 1968 in The Broadside. if there's one thing Joel and I have learned, it's that the closer these recollections are to the time of the event, the more likely they are to be accurate. however, Joni does accentuate the negative. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:01:53 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Marcie_Cafe Au Go Go_NYC RE: a recent post from Stewart.Simon > Subject: Cafe Au Go Go in New York - Marcie > > This is a pretty interesting video. The first few frames of Joni singing in > this video show her wearing a blue beret and sitting on a chair. Then > the video flips to show her in the cafe referenced as Cafe Au Go Go in > New York. However - the liner notes to the video say "the music appears > to be added from the album Song To A Seagull". > > Now separately, I am pretty sure that the album Song to a Seagull > was recorded and produced in studio by David Crosby. > > However, if you look closely at this video - she doesn't really appear > to be lip synching in the few shots you see her actually singing. So > can anyone tell me if Marcie was recorded here in NY at Cafe Au Go Go, > or in studio? > > Really curious to know > -------------------------- Stewart, Joni's album SONG TO A SEAGULL was recorded at A&M Studios in Los Angeles, CA. between Jan. and March 1968. as for the Cafi Au Go Go performance of MARCIE, this film clip is clearly edited from -2- different sets. for UnKnown (technical?) reasons, the album version of MARCIE was synched to the Live performance film. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:36:33 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: Re: Marcie_Cafe Au Go Go_NYC Hey Simon - I see your a little behind on your joni digests..lol.......but thank you for responding. Someone already mentioned that this video is apparently is from a Japanese VHS called Village Voices and as your link indicates - it was performed at the Cafi Au Go Go in NY in 1967. Thanks for sending it....... STAS and in particular, Marcie is such a great song but it doesn't seems to get the attention of much of her later work. I really enjoyed this video......And that's exactly how I'd like to see Joni...no band .....no stage ...just a her and her guitar (and maybe her piano). Stewart |------------> | From: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |simon@icu.com | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | To: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |joni@smoe.org | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Cc: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Date: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |06/24/2010 03:01 PM | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Subject: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Marcie_Cafe Au Go Go_NYC | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| RE: a recent post from Stewart.Simon > Subject: Cafe Au Go Go in New York - Marcie > > This is a pretty interesting video. The first few frames of Joni singing in > this video show her wearing a blue beret and sitting on a chair. Then > the video flips to show her in the cafe referenced as Cafe Au Go Go in > New York. However - the liner notes to the video say "the music appears > to be added from the album Song To A Seagull". > > Now separately, I am pretty sure that the album Song to a Seagull > was recorded and produced in studio by David Crosby. > > However, if you look closely at this video - she doesn't really appear > to be lip synching in the few shots you see her actually singing. So > can anyone tell me if Marcie was recorded here in NY at Cafe Au Go Go, > or in studio? > > Really curious to know > -------------------------- Stewart, Joni's album SONG TO A SEAGULL was recorded at A&M Studios in Los Angeles, CA. between Jan. and March 1968. as for the Cafi Au Go Go performance of MARCIE,. this film clip is clearly edited from -2- different sets. for UnKnown (technical?) reasons, the album version of MARCIE was synched to the Live performance film. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Five decades on, JUDY COLLINS remains one of the greatest interpreters of modern times and America's ... " along with the written content ... this article has a picture of Joni & Judy in a TreeHouse that reminded me of another, earlier photo from a 1969 LIFE Magazine cover story on Judy. interested members can download both articles at the following URL: the LIFE Magazine is worth it just for the photo. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:00:16 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered I bought this as an import in 2008 and it is worth every penny! Though some of the production sounds dated (more on the James Taylor numbers than on the Joni numbers), it is a superb record--and Tom Rush's Rockport Sunday/No Regrets is beautiful. I do have original vinyl copy, but it has seen better days and, of course, doesn't have the alternate takes. A HUGE sonic improvement over the original CD issue. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > simon@icu.com > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:31 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered > > although released in 2008, I only recently became aware > of the ReIssue of one of Tom Rush's early albums. > > The CIRCLE GAME > Digitally Remastered - Expanded 40th Anniversary Edition > > > > > Finally! they've included the 45rpm Single version of > URGE FOR GOING. there's also new a 1st Take version > of The CIRCLE GAME. TIN ANGEL was also included on > the original 1968 Album. > > written in 1965, URGE FOR GOING was one of Joni's first 7-or-8 songs, > along with The CIRCLE GAME, which preceded it by several months. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:48:28 -0500 From: Happy The Man Subject: Re: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered Jerry, I was 11 would have loved to be invited but I'm sure my Dad was making me pitch and catch in some baseball game and pick up the dog crap in the backyard. Next time a head's up would be good. Peace, Craig NP: Mumford and Sons On 6/24/2010 12:24 PM, Gerald Notaro wrote: > I first encountered Joni at The Mariposa Folk Festival in Toronto. I used to > drive up from Buffalo. I think this is another case of Joni expounding and > exaggerating on the detail for what gets attention (Bob Dylan.) I can't > imagine anyone shouting this to her onstage. The audiences I saw there were > always serious and respectful. It wasn't a place that people just wandered > into expecting to hear rock and roll. You had to take a Ferry over from > downtown Toronto and the whole place was a cultural event. But that's our > Joni! > > Jerry > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > > >> although released in 2008, I only recently became aware >> of the ReIssue of one of Tom Rush's early albums. >> >> The CIRCLE GAME >> Digitally Remastered - Expanded 40th Anniversary Edition >> >> >> >> >> Finally! they've included the 45rpm Single version of >> URGE FOR GOING. there's also new a 1st Take version >> of The CIRCLE GAME. TIN ANGEL was also included on >> the original 1968 Album. >> >> written in 1965, URGE FOR GOING was one of Joni's first 7-or-8 songs, >> along with The CIRCLE GAME, which preceded it by several months. >> >> here's some info from a Profile / Interview >> >> -------------------- >> ZigZag Magazine >> Feb. 1977 >> >> Sankey Phillips& Dave Wilson report. >> >> >> JM: URGE FOR GOING I wrote after the second Mariposa I ever went >> to ... >> >> >> ZZ: What exactly was The Mariposa? >> >> JM: A folk festival which was held in Ontario every summer. The first >> one I went to, I went solely to watch... and the second time I went, >> I was a performer. That was the first year I was married, and that was >> a very bad year... it seemed to be full of drunks and people looking for >> action rather than music - so I was pretty unprepared. >> >> I wanted to do all my own material, I didn't have much variety. I wasn't >> very good, and I had a lot of trouble with the audience booing and hissing >> and saying "Take your clothes off, sweetheart!" Things like that really >> shook >> me up because I didn't know how to counter or how to act. I thought I'd >> bombed, I wanted to quit and I was really desperate. On the way back, in >> the car I wrote a line that said "It's like running for a train that left >> the >> station hours ago / I've got the urge for going but there's no place left >> to go". >> What I really meant was that the folk movement had died at that point, >> and that the music I loved had no audience left ... it was futile and it >> was >> silly, and I may as well quit. >> >> So then I forgot about the line, and then one day I was cleaning out my >> guitar >> case which is usually full of scrap songs, lyrics live started - and I came >> across >> that piece of paper. I used to clean the case out every so often, and read >> all >> the notes over - and I would sometimes find something where I couldn't even >> remember what the original thought was...but the line would stir up a whole >> fresh idea, completely new. That is what happened with Urge For Going. >> I wrote that in Aug., and the next thing I knew it was Sept. and then Oct. >> I was really cold, and I was saying "I hate winter and I really have the >> urge >> for going someplace warm", and I remembered that line. >> So I wrote URGE FOR GOING from that. >> >> ZZ: And Tom Rush happened to pick up on it? >> >> JM: Actually, Dave van Ronk was the first. I met Dave and Patrick Sky in >> Winnipeg in Sept. or Oct. - I had just written it so it must have >> been >> October. They were doing a Canadian television show called Let's Sing Out, >> and I thought that once again ... it was sort of following Mariposa, I was >> shaky and thought I was awful and amateurish and I wasn't growing fast >> enough. And I could feel how good my peers were; I could feel how >> amateurish >> I was, and I really needed encouragement. They didn't give me any as far as >> I could see. Van Ronk was saying things like "Joni, you've really got >> groovy >> taste in clothes, why don't you become a fashion model?" And Patrick Sky >> was saying "It sucks". But Dave did like URGE FOR GOING and he asked >> me for it, I remember. I wondered what ulterior motive he had in mind >> after saying all those dreadful things to me. "He must just want to laugh >> at it or something". I was that insecure about my writing. >> I really thought it was awful. >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> you can read the entire article in the JoniMitchell.com Library >> at >> >> the ZigZag article is actually an expansion of an earlier interview >> published in >> The Broadside. THAT interview can be found in the Joni Mitchell.com Library >> at >> >> the ZigZag article is one of the -3- most important articles in the >> Library. >> it contains a variety of insights and information regarding the earliest >> period of Joni's career. >> >> >> >> >> andmoreagain, >> - - - - - - - - - >> s i m o n >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: re:Joni expounding and exaggerating Although I would say this isn't just Joni's nature but really just human nature. I mean someone can give you a million compliments on the same exact thing and then just one person says something bad. and bam....which normally sticks in your head? Strange how it works. - -Mon - ------------------------------------------- perhaps but ... it is in Joni's nature to remember the negative response of one A*Hole instead of the positive response from the rest of the audience. I would also point out that this recollection was first mentioned in an interview originally published on Feb. 14, 1968 in The Broadside. if there's one thing Joel and I have learned, it's that the closer these recollections are to the time of the event, the more likely they are to be accurate. however, Joni does accentuate the negative. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:03:23 -0400 From: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Subject: Re: Tom Rush_The CIRCLE GAME_Remastered hi Gerry, I was at a couple of the early Mariposa festivals on the island- do recall seeing Joni there, but she did not perform. Remember clearly watching Bruce Cockburn's set and Neil Young coming on towards the end of the set and doing three or four songs- it was magical. mariposa was such a GREAT festival in it;s day. I recall the audience being very attentive, not any rowdiness or hecklers at all! just my take best Stephen in Toronto Craig- really like Mumford and sons! Jerry, I was 11 would have loved to be invited but I'm sure my Dad was making me pitch and catch in some baseball game and pick up the dog crap in the backyard. Next time a head's up would be good. Peace, Craig NP: Mumford and Sons On 6/24/2010 12:24 PM, Gerald Notaro wrote: > I first encountered Joni at The Mariposa Folk Festival in Toronto. I used to > drive up from Buffalo. I think this is another case of Joni expounding and > exaggerating on the detail for what gets attention (Bob Dylan.) I can't > imagine anyone shouting this to her onstage. The audiences I saw there were > always serious and respectful. It wasn't a place that people just wandered > into expecting to hear rock and roll. You had to take a Ferry over from > downtown Toronto and the whole place was a cultural event. But that's our > Joni! > > Jerry > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > > >> although released in 2008, I only recently became aware >> of the ReIssue of one of Tom Rush's early albums. >> >> The CIRCLE GAME >> Digitally Remastered - Expanded 40th Anniversary Edition >> >> >> >> >> Finally! they've included the 45rpm Single version of >> URGE FOR GOING. there's also new a 1st Take version >> of The CIRCLE GAME. TIN ANGEL was also included on >> the original 1968 Album. >> >> written in 1965, URGE FOR GOING was one of Joni's first 7-or-8 songs, >> along with The CIRCLE GAME, which preceded it by several months. >> >> here's some info from a Profile / Interview >> >> -------------------- >> ZigZag Magazine >> Feb. 1977 >> >> Sankey Phillips& Dave Wilson report. >> >> >> JM: URGE FOR GOING I wrote after the second Mariposa I ever went >> to ... >> >> >> ZZ: What exactly was The Mariposa? >> >> JM: A folk festival which was held in Ontario every summer. The first >> one I went to, I went solely to watch... and the second time I went, >> I was a performer. That was the first year I was married, and that was >> a very bad year... it seemed to be full of drunks and people looking for >> action rather than music - so I was pretty unprepared. >> >> I wanted to do all my own material, I didn't have much variety. I wasn't >> very good, and I had a lot of trouble with the audience booing and hissing >> and saying "Take your clothes off, sweetheart!" Things like that really >> shook >> me up because I didn't know how to counter or how to act. I thought I'd >> bombed, I wanted to quit and I was really desperate. On the way back, in >> the car I wrote a line that said "It's like running for a train that left >> the >> station hours ago / I've got the urge for going but there's no place left >> to go". >> What I really meant was that the folk movement had died at that point, >> and that the music I loved had no audience left ... it was futile and it >> was >> silly, and I may as well quit. >> >> So then I forgot about the line, and then one day I was cleaning out my >> guitar >> case which is usually full of scrap songs, lyrics live started - and I came >> across >> that piece of paper. I used to clean the case out every so often, and read >> all >> the notes over - and I would sometimes find something where I couldn't even >> remember what the original thought was...but the line would stir up a whole >> fresh idea, completely new. That is what happened with Urge For Going. >> I wrote that in Aug., and the next thing I knew it was Sept. and then Oct. >> I was really cold, and I was saying "I hate winter and I really have the >> urge >> for going someplace warm", and I remembered that line. >> So I wrote URGE FOR GOING from that. >> >> ZZ: And Tom Rush happened to pick up on it? >> >> JM: Actually, Dave van Ronk was the first. I met Dave and Patrick Sky in >> Winnipeg in Sept. or Oct. - I had just written it so it must have >> been >> October. They were doing a Canadian television show called Let's Sing Out, >> and I thought that once again ... it was sort of following Mariposa, I was >> shaky and thought I was awful and amateurish and I wasn't growing fast >> enough. And I could feel how good my peers were; I could feel how >> amateurish >> I was, and I really needed encouragement. They didn't give me any as far as >> I could see. Van Ronk was saying things like "Joni, you've really got >> groovy >> taste in clothes, why don't you become a fashion model?" And Patrick Sky >> was saying "It sucks". But Dave did like URGE FOR GOING and he asked >> me for it, I remember. I wondered what ulterior motive he had in mind >> after saying all those dreadful things to me. "He must just want to laugh >> at it or something". I was that insecure about my writing. >> I really thought it was awful. >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> you can read the entire article in the JoniMitchell.com Library >> at >> >> the ZigZag article is actually an expansion of an earlier interview >> published in >> The Broadside. THAT interview can be found in the Joni Mitchell.com Library >> at >> >> the ZigZag article is one of the -3- most important articles in the >> Library. >> it contains a variety of insights and information regarding the earliest >> period of Joni's career. >> >> >> >> >> andmoreagain, >> - - - - - - - - - >> s i m o n >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm >> http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. 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