From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #139 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, May 21 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 139 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- JM.com fundraising [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Clouds review [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Clouds review [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] GLEE!!!! [Leah Welborn ] Get your Joni bra and panties here ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Get your Joni bra and panties here [Lori Fye ] Re: Get your Joni bra and panties here ["Randy Remote" Subject: JM.com fundraising Just a reminder that we are hoping to raise the funds for keeping JoniMitchell.com up for another year with a JMDL insiders covers project. Les has just switched the site to a new more reliable server for which we need to raise $1200 (previously $1000 for the old constantly down server but you get what you pay for). Here is our email from a couple of weeks ago detailing the plan. Note covers submissions should be to me by July 1st, 6 weeks from now. thanks, Dave - ------------------------------------------------- THE GOAL Les needs $1200 by August 1st 2010 to keep the website afloat this year. There are over 1000 JMDL members. You do the math. We are, with his blessing, proposing a pledge-based fundraiser to get him to his goal this year, and each year subsequently I hope. As times are tight for many, the pledged amount can be anything you can afford (but let's say US $5 minimum). There is a PayPal button here: http://jonimitchell.com/donate.cfm with a mailing address as well for US checks if you are not a Paypal user. Each person who makes their contribution will receive, as a premium, the link to download an "album" of Joni Mitchell covers created by JMDL members for JMDL members. All proceeds will go directly to JoniMitchell.com. Note: we could run into potential licensing hot water if this turns into a "release" to the general public, so it needs to remain a private in-house "tape swap" thing. THE CD Dave Blackburn will act as producer/mastering engineer for a download- only collection of Joni covers, exclusively by JMDL members and made available only within the JMDL. SUBMITTING A SONG Please submit ONE song (it would be great if you recorded a new cover for this year's pledge CD project that has not already been heard by the group, but existing recordings are certainly cool too.) If you do record a new cover song and if you'd like to have Dave mix or master it, please contact him at beatntrack@sbcglobal.net. The idea here is to put together a fun collection of covers to share the talent of this group around, AND support JM.com into the bargain. Submissions should be sent to Dave Blackburn electronically, to beatntrack@sbcglobal.net , in any digital audio format, (AIFF or WAV is ideal, mp3s are fine but I can't master them without losing a lot of resolution.) Yousendit.com is a great way to email large digital files. Hard media (DATs, memory sticks or CDs, even cassettes-remember those?) can be mailed to him at Dave Blackburn 1008 S. Live Oak Park Rd, Fallbrook, CA 92028 USA. Perhaps a graphics expert on the list might like to make a piece of cover artwork to go along with the project too. The deadline for submissions will be JULY 1st 2010. If a huge number of submissions are received we may hold over some to use on next year's project but I think we can accommodate 15-20 songs each year. Thanks for your participation in such a good cause. Let's take a load off Les' mind and keep OUR website up and running. Dave Blackburn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:53:32 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds review Bob M wrote "With a very nice write-up of Clouds. I really enjoyed it and now have a crick in my neck from nodding my head so much." Thanks for the link, Bob. Oddly, I had a mixed sense of the write up, which I did enjoy overall. However, I found myself shaking (rather than nodding) my head at a few points. To wit: 1. I never found "That Song About the Midway" particularly difficult to "get". 2. It is quite obvious to me that the author did not "understand" at all "I Think I Understand". That song is one of my favorite all time Joni songs - a true "work of art". In a sense, I may not fully understand it, either , since I have never been deeply depressed. But, perhaps I never got deeply depressed because that song pulled me out of my relatively minor depressions on more than one occasion. Which may partly explain why I love it so. 3. RE the comparison between the original BSN and the orchestrated version, I strongly prefer the later version - not because the original was weak (I certainly enjoy it, too) but because BSN has more credibility when sung by a "more experienced" person. Joni herself referred to Mabel Mercer's having done this song justice for much the same reason. On an additional level, I find the orchestration to the latter BSN to be little short of magnificent, which one can hardly say about the original. I understand from earlier posts that Joni considered this album to be her artistic nadir. Well, there's a different kind of back-handed compliment ! :-). My take on Clouds is as follows: a. Chelsea Morning, I Don't Know Where I Stand, Midway, Gallery, I Think I Understand and BSN are Joni classics. b. The Fiddle and the Drum was misguided, IMO, back then (even for those of us who opposed the Vietnam war, "why are you fighting us all again" seemed like a harsh criticism for that time). In that sense, it is arguably a better criticism now than them - though some would still disagree. :-) Whatever one thinks, it was an artfully conceived song - perfectly melancholy a capella. c. Tin Angel is an OK song, but too similar in style to the opening track from her first album (trying to repeat a formula?), and not nearly as strong an effort. Moreover, its mood does not capture "I found someone to love today" - whereas Chelsea Morning's does. That line seems to have jumped a song. d. I used to really appreciate Roses Blue - perhaps for the lyrical round style, which Joni seemed wrapped up in at that time, and perhaps for the banshee. However, over time it's lost its bloom ("over time") ;-) Perhaps because I never really had a Rose in my life. e. I never liked Songs To Aging Children Come. Though I like the title. Six out of ten classics. Not bad. The other four not so terrible either, to say the least. I'm gonna go listen to it now (it's a time of change for me, so perhaps I will enjoy it even more now than in the past). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:10:32 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Clouds review Hi Bob, if nothing else I was happy to have posted it to bring you out of lurkdom! Thanks for your always-enjoyable and well-expressed thoughts. Maybe that's why Joni named it "Clouds"...like when you're lying on your back, looking up at the sky and trying to figure out what YOU see in the clouds. As for "Tin Angel", I always find it interesting when an artist writes a song in a style where the music and lyrics are in contradiction. "Stay Awake" from Mary Poppins, "Lullabye" by The Cure, and one of my favorite albums of last year, Sweet Trip's "You Will Never Know Why" which was about separation and break-up but featured music that was very poppy and peppy. Today's entry on the website is about FTR...doesn't really say much but does make an interesting comparison to Neil's "Harvest" that appeared the same year: http://tinyurl.com/2c3wxxn Bob NP: Green Day, "Ha Ha You're Dead" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Also, I think In France they Kiss on Main Street would be an excellent choice, perhaps for Rachel. Woodstock would be good, but I think the CSN&Y arrangement would work better than Joni's. For April (the reoccuring K Chenowith character with a drinking problem), A Case of You would be great. Although she might over-sing it with that big broadway voice of hers. It would be great fun for Emma Pillsbury to sing Twisted, as she has ocd, etc. Finally, I think Coyote would be fantastic for Sue. I just have this notion of her growling, "No offense, Coyote." Sue is soooo wicked, but she's my favorite character. I don't know if I'd be so into the show if it weren't for her. Well, this has been fun. If only it would happen. xoxo Leah On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Thursday, May 20 2010 Volume 2010 : Number > 148 > > > > ________________________________ > From: > "FMYFL@aol.com" > To: ckarma@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > Sent: > Wed, May 19, 2010 3:23:47 PM > Subject: Re: Joni episode of "Glee?" > > That's a > question for Lindsay, Leah, and me (that I know of) who watch it. > Will > Schuester sang the hell out of Aerosmith's "Dream On" last night. A > lot of > time they put a real glee club twist to any song. They could probably > sing > quite a few Joni songs, but I'd like the cast to sing something like > "Rays > Dad's Cadillac" or "Edith and the Kingpin". > > Jimmy > > I'm gonna make it a habit > to not stop and talk to students because this > has been a colossal waste of my > time. ~ Sue Sylvester > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 14:23:03 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Get your Joni bra and panties here Link posted to the Facebook page: http://www.lingeriemarijke.nl/2010/marlies-dekkers-joni-mitchell.html Google translation: Marlies Dekkers: Dozens of artists claim to be influenced by '60s icon Joni Mitchell. Bjvrk and Jeff Buckley to Madonna and George Michael. But there is only one who can write lyrics like Joni. No regrets, Coyote, it is one of the finest songs of Canadian singer / songwriter. And it is of course an impossible love. She compares her lover with a coyote, a magnificent predator that the prairies of America makes onveilg. A beautiful image of the coyote in the black flock of dark gray bra and panties processed. "No Regrets, Coyote" without doubt. http://www.facebook.com/pages/JoniMitchellcom/311982632435?ref=ts ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:49:30 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Get your Joni bra and panties here > http://www.lingeriemarijke.nl/2010/marlies-dekkers-joni-mitchell.html No stockings to wreck in a juke box dive? They're totally missing the real market! ; ) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:30:27 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Get your Joni bra and panties here Wotten De Fokken? From: "Les Irvin" > Link posted to the Facebook page: > http://www.lingeriemarijke.nl/2010/marlies-dekkers-joni-mitchell.html > Google translation: > Marlies Dekkers: Dozens of artists claim to be influenced by '60s icon > Joni > Mitchell. Bjvrk and Jeff Buckley to Madonna and George Michael. But there > is > only one who can write lyrics like Joni. No regrets, Coyote, it is one of > the finest songs of Canadian singer / songwriter. And it is of course an > impossible love. She compares her lover with a coyote, a magnificent > predator that the prairies of America makes onveilg. A beautiful image of > the coyote in the black flock of dark gray bra and panties processed. "No > Regrets, Coyote" without doubt. > http://www.facebook.com/pages/JoniMitchellcom/311982632435?ref=ts ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #139 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe