From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #112 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, April 24 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 112 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- LA Times Interview Prince ref [Anita G ] Re: Joni disses Bob. What the...? [Anita G ] Re: John Kelly performing Paved Paradise: The Art of Joni Mitchell [Anita] Re: John Kelly performing Paved Paradise: The Art of Joni Mitchell [Anita] Re: What the....? Episode 2 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) [Leah Welborn ] Re: Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) [Catherine McKay ] Talked about Joni on the radio [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Joni Cover Suggestions [David Gizara ] Re: Joni Cover Suggestions [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni Cover Suggestions [Mags ] Joni disses Bob ["Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" ] Re: Joni Cover Suggestions ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:54:09 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: LA Times Interview Prince ref In amongst Joni slagging off Mr Zimmerman, I couldn't help in the interview noticing that Joni also referring to the Prince story we were talking about here just a couple of days ago. Nice! Anita ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:14:15 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Joni disses Bob. What the...? Gosh, I have been very lucky. Whenever I have seen Joni it has almost been like being in a church, with people showing utmost respect. Mind you, I haven't seen her play since Edmonton in '93. People walking around and talking through Joni's set? I think you showed considerable restraint, Vince! Anita On 23 April 2010 05:21, wrote: > Hmmmm... > > In Chicago I did yell that > > Vince ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:22:22 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: John Kelly performing Paved Paradise: The Art of Joni Mitchell I think you're right, Dave. Sometimes Joni wants to be ignored and other days she doesn't. Trouble is with us human beings is that we have an expectation for others to be consistent. I imagine Joni to be a bit like the tides, coming in and going out, coming in, going out. She's as inconsistent as the rest of us. Trouble is, when you are in the press all the inconsistencies and eveythings else gets magnified. Anita On 22 April 2010 15:24, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Yes, Bob, but she also hates it when the press ignores her or > glorifies some other artist that she feels superior to. She can't live > with 'em and she can't live without 'em. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:22:24 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: John Kelly performing Paved Paradise: The Art of Joni Mitchell I think you're right, Dave. Sometimes Joni wants to be ignored and other days she doesn't. Trouble is with us human beings is that we have an expectation for others to be consistent. I imagine Joni to be a bit like the tides, coming in and going out, coming in, going out. She's as inconsistent as the rest of us. Trouble is, when you are in the press all the inconsistencies and eveythings else gets magnified. Anita On 22 April 2010 15:24, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Yes, Bob, but she also hates it when the press ignores her or > glorifies some other artist that she feels superior to. She can't live > with 'em and she can't live without 'em. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:59 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: What the....? Episode 2 I read that guy's stuff a long time ago - he's actually very funny and he's pretty thorough. And he loves Hejira. He also likes being a bit sensationalistic. Bob NP: Pavement, "Cut Your Hair" "Les Irvin" Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org 04/22/2010 05:43 PM Please respond to "Les Irvin" To cc Subject What the....? Episode 2 http://www.markprindle.com/mitchell.htm - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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He looks lovely wonderful in this video. lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk wrote One other thought, and I hope I can express it the way it is intended. I don't think we should condemn Jackson for possibly having rejected or jilted Joni, just because we "are Joni fans" and feel we identify with her. I agree with you both. FWiW, I've never 'hated' Jackson Browne. I've made it a life practice to never hate (except in extreme circumstances. Like licorice. Hate it. Stubbing my toe. Hate it.) I've had a sort of 'bad taste in my mouth' about him. I can appreciate that my feelings toward him may have been unwarranted (I'm sure he'll be relieved to know that). Though I don't have any of his music, when I hear it, I love it, especially The Pretender. That song always makes me cry. As does These Days. He is one hell of a good looking man. Mags, thanks for posting that video. Lieve, thanks for your positive input. Hey, also, Mags, can I find the doc you mentioned (woman of heart and mind) online somewhere? xoxoxox Leah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) http://www.amazon.com/Joni-Mitchell-Woman-Heart-Story/dp/B000096FTI B hey Leah, here's a link to purchasing the DVD. You'll be blown away, I still am, each and every time I watch it. B Mags. b% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) http://www.amazon.com/Joni-Mitchell-Woman-Heart-Story/dp/B000096FTI B hey Leah, here's a link to purchasing the DVD. You'll be blown away, I still am, each and every time I watch it. B Mags. b% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:20:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Joni disses Bob. What the...? >>Gosh, I have been very lucky. Whenever I have seen Joni it has almost been like being in a church, with people showing utmost respect. Well, same here, when she was a headliner. People tend to assume that no one is interested in the opening act, and behave accordingly. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:36:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) If I used the word "hate," it was definitely unwarranted. It's far too strong a word. "Bad taste in my mouth" works for me. It's also possible the allegations against him are completely false and I usually know better than to condemn a person without evidence. I just feel strangely protective towards Joni for some reason, which is utterly stupid, as I doubt she needs my help. I can assure you also that I don't spend a great deal of time thinking about this stuff. By the same token, there are times Joni pisses me off too, because she does come across as a bit arrogant and narrow-minded and opinionated and Luddite and so on. On the other hand, am I perfect? Absolutely not (although I come very close - ha ha! that is definitely a joke.) To read her words in a print article is a different thing than to hear them in a live interview. I don't think she takes herself too seriously, at least not all the time. At any rate, I think it's possible to be serious and humourous at the same time. I must agree that JB is a fine-looking man - no complaints there! ________________________________ From: Leah Welborn To: joni@smoe.org; margaret_elmtree@yahoo.ca Cc: joni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 12:47:00 PM Subject: Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk wrote One other thought, and I hope I can express it the way it is intended. I don't think we should condemn Jackson for possibly having rejected or jilted Joni, just because we "are Joni fans" and feel we identify with her. I agree with you both. FWiW, I've never 'hated' Jackson Browne. I've made it a life practice to never hate (except in extreme circumstances. Like licorice. Hate it. Stubbing my toe. Hate it.) I've had a sort of 'bad taste in my mouth' about him. I can appreciate that my feelings toward him may have been unwarranted (I'm sure he'll be relieved to know that). Though I don't have any of his music, when I hear it, I love it, especially The Pretender. That song always makes me cry. As does These Days. He is one hell of a good looking man. ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:36:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) If I used the word "hate," it was definitely unwarranted. It's far too strong a word. "Bad taste in my mouth" works for me. It's also possible the allegations against him are completely false and I usually know better than to condemn a person without evidence. I just feel strangely protective towards Joni for some reason, which is utterly stupid, as I doubt she needs my help. I can assure you also that I don't spend a great deal of time thinking about this stuff. By the same token, there are times Joni pisses me off too, because she does come across as a bit arrogant and narrow-minded and opinionated and Luddite and so on. On the other hand, am I perfect? Absolutely not (although I come very close - ha ha! that is definitely a joke.) To read her words in a print article is a different thing than to hear them in a live interview. I don't think she takes herself too seriously, at least not all the time. At any rate, I think it's possible to be serious and humourous at the same time. I must agree that JB is a fine-looking man - no complaints there! ________________________________ From: Leah Welborn To: joni@smoe.org; margaret_elmtree@yahoo.ca Cc: joni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 12:47:00 PM Subject: Don't Confront Me with My Failures (ljc) lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk wrote One other thought, and I hope I can express it the way it is intended. I don't think we should condemn Jackson for possibly having rejected or jilted Joni, just because we "are Joni fans" and feel we identify with her. I agree with you both. FWiW, I've never 'hated' Jackson Browne. I've made it a life practice to never hate (except in extreme circumstances. Like licorice. Hate it. Stubbing my toe. Hate it.) I've had a sort of 'bad taste in my mouth' about him. I can appreciate that my feelings toward him may have been unwarranted (I'm sure he'll be relieved to know that). Though I don't have any of his music, when I hear it, I love it, especially The Pretender. That song always makes me cry. As does These Days. He is one hell of a good looking man. ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:47:01 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: What the....? Episode 2 Les wrote, cryptically: >http://www.markprindle.com/mitchell.htm You have to admit, some of this wacko's lines are pretty funny. Re DED: >The last thing anyone expected from Joni Mitchell in 1985 was an album with >even a single good song on it, and once again she met our expectations head on. And I didn't know about the chest hair... :) *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:37:29 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Talked about Joni on the radio A facebook friend and talk show host had posted that she was going to see John Kelly in LA. She had seen him in NYC a few years ago and loved him. She said she was going to talk about John and Joni on the show today, and wanted me to call in. She's a big Joni fan too. I'm always nervous calling radio shows, but told her I would. So if anyone was listening to Sirius OutQ's "Frank DeCaro Show" a few minutes ago, you would have heard me praising Joni, and John Kelly. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:10:11 -0700 From: David Gizara Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions Hi, My name is David Gizara. Each year I do a Summer Solstice Joni Mitchel Radio Special on KLCC 89.7 FM in Eugene, Oregon. We are the NPR affiliate in Southern and Central Oregon and we stream all over the world at www.klcc.org. Bob has always helped me greatly and this year's theme will be the top thirty most done Joni Covers (roughly 30). I pick jazzish covers of Joni Mitchell songs i.e. Brad Mehldau doing "Roses Blue". I would love to hear any suggestions from all of you. I'm working off the list of most covered Joni songs at JoniMitchell.com. This years show will be June 24th. Thanks, David Gizara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions You absolutely MUST check out Robin Adler and Mutts of the Planet's brand new CD "Safaris to the Heart," which is all Joni jazz covers. For the sake of transparency, Robin and Dave are both members of this discussion list, but they are NOT paying me to say this and I wouldn't even mention it if I didn't think it was worthwhile, but it most definitely is. You can hear samples at their website, but the CD is well worth purchasing and I would definitely encourage you to check them out. In fact, they are *almost* (by a bit of a stretch) neighbours of yours: at least, they are on the same side of the continent as you! Here's their website, and you can listen to samples at the bottom of the front page: http://robinadler.com/ ________________________________ From: David Gizara To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 3:10:11 PM Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions Hi, My name is David Gizara. Each year I do a Summer Solstice Joni Mitchel Radio Special on KLCC 89.7 FM in Eugene, Oregon. We are the NPR affiliate in Southern and Central Oregon and we stream all over the world at www.klcc.org. Bob has always helped me greatly and this year's theme will be the top thirty most done Joni Covers (roughly 30). I pick jazzish covers of Joni Mitchell songs i.e. Brad Mehldau doing "Roses Blue". I would love to hear any suggestions from all of you. I'm working off the list of most covered Joni songs at JoniMitchell.com. This years show will be June 24th. Thanks, David Gizara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:13:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions omg Catherine, verbatim to what I was going to say....hi, David Gizara, yes do take Catherine's suggestion as gospel...have a listen or two or twenty....Robin and Dave and the Mutts...I just cannot articulate how wonderful and ON and ooozing jazz and love and many safaris to this heart of mine. And Les Ross, your artwork/photograph on the cover is gorgeous, subtle and strong all at once. geeze (cherokee) louise, get out there and pick u p their cd, all of you! ya hear??? ;-) i LOVE it. I wish I could put down on paper, all the gushing of summer lawns that's going on inside when I listen to it. hoping they make an appearance closer to home ;--)))) Mags - --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions To: "David Gizara" , joni@smoe.org Received: Friday, April 23, 2010, 4:24 PM You absolutely MUST check out Robin Adler and Mutts of the Planet's brand new CD "Safaris to the Heart," which is all Joni jazz covers. For the sake of transparency, Robin and Dave are both members of this discussion list, but they are NOT paying me to say this and I wouldn't even mention it if I didn't think it was worthwhile, but it most definitely is. You can hear samples at their website, but the CD is well worth purchasing and I would definitely encourage you to check them out. In fact, they are *almost* (by a bit of a stretch) neighbours of yours: at least, they are on the same side of the continent as you! Here's their website, and you can listen to samples at the bottom of the front page: http://robinadler.com/ ________________________________ From: David Gizara To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 3:10:11 PM Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions Hi, My name is David Gizara. Each year I do a Summer Solstice Joni Mitchel Radio Special on KLCC 89.7 FM in Eugene, Oregon. We are the NPR affiliate in Southern and Central Oregon and we stream all over the world at www.klcc.org. Bob has always helped me greatly and this year's theme will be the top thirty most done Joni Covers (roughly 30). I pick jazzish covers of Joni Mitchell songs i.e. Brad Mehldau doing "Roses Blue". I would love to hear any suggestions from all of you. I'm working off the list of most covered Joni songs at JoniMitchell.com. This years show will be June 24th. Thanks, David Gizara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" Subject: Joni disses Bob Les thought this exchange was pretty weird and "me too". I think the interviewer was exploring how performers like John Kelly put on a persona, then likened it to Joni & Bob. I think Joni's always held some hurt over that story when Dylan fell asleep during a playback of the (then) brand new "Court And Spark". Yeah, it's weird that she said this stuff and it's probably the worst she's ever said about him. I think her quotes are gonna get worse as time goes on but I hope I'm wrong. Was it Gloria Swanson who said, "I'm still big. The movies got small." Jim >LAT: As well, you've had experience becoming a character outside yourself [Mitchell caused controversy when she appeared as an African American male on the cover of her 1977 album, "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter"].The folk scene you came out of had fun creating personas. You were born Roberta Joan Anderson, and someone named Bobby Zimmerman became Bob Dylan. JM: Bob is not authentic at all. He's a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:37:10 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions Hi David, Adding my voice to the praise of Robin Adler and Mutts of the Planet's 'Safaris to the Heart'. There is a dynamite cover of 'Woodstock' and that has to be in the top 30 Joni Mitchell covers. But the whole cd is excellent. High quality stuff from beginning to end and a true to safari to the heart of all that 'jazz'. Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mags" Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:13 PM To: "David Gizara" ; ; "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions > omg Catherine, verbatim to what I was going to say....hi, David Gizara, > yes do > take Catherine's suggestion as gospel...have a listen or two or > twenty....Robin and Dave and the Mutts...I just cannot articulate how > wonderful and ON and ooozing jazz and love and many safaris to this heart > of > mine. > > And Les Ross, your artwork/photograph on the cover is gorgeous, subtle and > strong all at once. > > > geeze (cherokee) louise, get out there and pick u p their cd, all of you! > ya > hear??? ;-) > > i LOVE it. I wish I could put down on paper, all the gushing of summer > lawns > that's going on inside when I listen to it. > > hoping they make an appearance closer to home ;--)))) > > Mags > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Catherine McKay wrote: > > > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: Joni Cover Suggestions > To: "David Gizara" , joni@smoe.org > Received: Friday, April 23, 2010, 4:24 PM > > > You absolutely MUST check out Robin Adler and Mutts of the Planet's brand > new > CD "Safaris to the Heart," which is all Joni jazz covers. For the sake of > transparency, Robin and Dave are both members of this discussion list, but > they are NOT paying me to say this and I wouldn't even mention it if I > didn't > think it was worthwhile, but it most definitely is. > > You can hear samples at > their website, but the CD is well worth purchasing and I would definitely > encourage you to check them out. In fact, they are *almost* (by a bit of > a > stretch) neighbours of yours: at least, they are on the same side of the > continent as you! > > Here's their website, and you can listen to samples at the > bottom of the front page: > http://robinadler.com/ > ________________________________ > From: David Gizara > To: > joni@smoe.org > Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 3:10:11 PM > Subject: Re: Joni Cover > Suggestions > > Hi, > My name is David Gizara. Each year I do a Summer Solstice > Joni Mitchel Radio Special on KLCC 89.7 FM in Eugene, Oregon. We are the > NPR > affiliate in Southern and Central Oregon and we stream all over the world > at > www.klcc.org. Bob has always helped me greatly and this year's theme will > be > the top thirty most done Joni Covers (roughly 30). I pick jazzish covers > of > Joni Mitchell songs i.e. Brad Mehldau doing "Roses Blue". I would love to > hear any suggestions from all of you. I'm working off the list of most > covered > Joni songs at JoniMitchell.com. This years show will be June 24th. > Thanks, > David Gizara ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #112 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe