From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #58 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, March 2 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 058 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Ballet in L.A. [] Troubadour Reunion [whizzboom@comcast.net] Joni Covers, Volume 122 - Marching Orders [Bob Muller ] Re: NutraSilver???? [kjhsf@aol.com] She gets silver, he gets gold. [Walt Breen ] Re: Troubadour Reunion [whizzboom@comcast.net] Re: Joni Ballet in L.A. [Michael Paz ] Re: NutraSilver???? [Gerald Notaro ] The Fiddle and The Drum in L.A. [Richard Goldman ] Re: NutraSilver???? ["Randy Remote" ] Re: The Fiddle and The Drum in L.A. [Richard Goldman ] colloidal silver treatment [kjhsf@aol.com] Re: NutraSilver???? ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 03:19:38 -0500 From: Subject: Joni Ballet in L.A. We all had such a great time Friday night. It was wonderful to get together with so many old "SoCal' Joni friends and also to briefly meet Richard from San Francisco. Richard - I wish you could have joined us for the after-party - - next time for sure! I've had messages from Lesli that she also attended the rehrearsal on Saturday and the performance, so Lesli, please send in your report, if you haven't already ;-) My experience of the ballet are similar to Steve's. It was really, really great to hear Joni's recordings on a top notch system in a top notch concert hall. I'm sure the audiophiles among us would have agreed. I heard so many more nuances and layers in her music than ever before. Sheer beauty. Absent her performing live, it was the next best thing. The dancers were really fantastic - so energetic and also so elegant. I also had a bit of a disconnect between the themes of the music and the dancing. The dancers were just so full of life but juxtaposed against the war and desolation of the planet themes, I had some cognitive dissonance. It was a bit hard to focus on the bright, youthful and fresh energy of the dancers and also focus on images of soldiers and Stalin and Bush at the same time LOL. The only thing I can figure from a "message" standpoint is maybe "well, the whole world is going to hell but the younger generations coming up may turn it around." Or, alteratively, it might be seen as an absurdist/existentialist take on it all. Not sure. One thing that struck me strongly was why Joni has embraced and enjoyed this latest project so much - she was so in love with dancing early on. it must have been so much fun for her to work with the dancers and the choreography. We all had a wonderful dinner and party at Coyote Rick's afterward and stayed well into the wee hours of the morning telling our personal Joni stories and reminiscing about all the various Joni events we have all attended with each other over some 13 years (!) now! It is a great testament to our little group here that we have had such wonderful collective experiences and memories to treasure over all these years. Thanks very much to Les for his generosity in making a few tickets available to our group. We really wish he could have joined us. Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:49:52 +0000 From: whizzboom@comcast.net Subject: Troubadour Reunion Hey gang, Just to help clear up the questions - the Carole King and JT tour is, in fact, named after the club. They played together at the Troubadour for the first time since the 70's for the club's 50th anniversary celebration which is what sparked the idea behind the tour. Despite his romantic relations with JM and Carly, CK and JT were musically inseparable in 70 and 71, touring in each other's bands - CK was an honorary member of Jo Mama and played piano all over the Sweet Baby James and Mud Slide Slim albums. JT plays on almost every track of CK's Writer album and made contributions to Tapestry as well. They have a history of crashing each other's concerts for the inevitable You Got a Friend encore. I have a boot of one of Carole's Troubadour gigs in support of Tapestry - I can't remember if JT plays on it, but they were often a package deal for those 2 years. RE: You're so Vain - I could swear Carly already went on record about this years ago, saying that the song was a composite sketch of Mick Jagger and Warren Beatty. Carly's latest album is a series of reworked older tracks that went largely unnoticed on a tiny label. I can't help but think this whole shebang is a publicity stunt. Kind of a bummer. Hope everyone is doing well! Cheers, Chris Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 02:43:48 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 122 - Marching Orders So, 2010 is 17% done and the Olympics are over - sounds like cause for celebration to me, and what better way to celebrate than to kick off the covers; that is, kick off another in the never-ending series of compilations of Joni covers. For March, I present you with Volume 122, accompanied by my guarantee of satisfaction or I'll double your money back. First though, a tip of the SCjoniguy's sombrero to Monica, Paul, and Bill (aka Sgt. Rock) for their help in rounding up the (un)usual suspects for this volume. And as is always the case, this is a real mixed bag of old and new stuff from all corners of the world - Marlin Perkins ain't got nuthin' on me. Here's a link for you to get the tracks: http://tinyurl.com/y9qpe6s And now that you've downloaded them, let's listen and see what we think: 1. Alyssa Wright - Both Sides Now: A mournful 2007 cello version of the franchise kicks things off. I find this one to be quite wonderful and passionate. Alyssa is a singer-songwriter and cellist from Ontario. 2. Butterbean Jazz Quartet - My Old Man: Love this one, a cool swinging jazz take on a seldom-done song from Blue. The vocals are nice, there are some interesting tempo changes and the trio is tight and loose at the same time. This fresh track comes from the band's self-titled 2009 album. 3. Refuge Trio - Refuge Of The Roads: When I heard about this track, I got all excited - then I got it and was very disappointed because it only runs about a minute and is only the first verse. Now, if someone could do the entire song in a minute, that might be something. The Refuge Trio (who coincidentally took their name from this song) is the brainchild of Theo Bleckmann, a very inventive NYC musician/performer who appeared at Wall-To-Wall Joni and has also released covers of "Sunny Sunday" and "Shadows And Light" (as part of the group Moss). He definitely likes the deep tracks and always brings a unique voice and approach to Joni's music. 4. Nicky Nicolai E Stefano Di Battista - River: Italy brings us this duo; Nicky sings and Stefano tickles the ivories. There are some other nice musical colors to be found here as well. 5. Ronan Keating - Both Sides Now: Hailing from Ireland, Ronan is an ex-member of the band Boyzone and has since struck out on his own as a singer-songwriter. He's since recorded and released a cover of "River" so we'll be on the lookout for that. This one comes from his "Songs For My Mother" release of last year and is certainly enjoyable. 6. Motel Westcoast - Big Yellow Taxi: 7. Motel Westcoast - Woodstock: This Dutch band, a composite of many separate solo performers, recreates songs from the Classic Rock era as a side gig. Their two Joni covers are from their 2007 release and both stay pretty close to the originals - well, the CSNY original to be specific in the case of Woodstock. 8. Aeon - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: From 1998, this cover is wrapped around a slow-funk rhythm, and woven into it are some wah-wah guitar and a lazy vocal. Don't know much about the band, but it doesn't take anything away from the enjoyability of the track which clock in at around 6 minutes, one of the longer ones on this volume. 9. Michelle Branch - A Case Of You: One of the more high-profile Joni covers of recent times. Grammy-winner Branch included this track on the 2009 compilation "A Revolution In Sound" where they took pop artists from today and had them cover songs of yesteryear. Michelle's a bit of a country-western artist and brings that flavor to her cover of ACOY. 10. Don Troxell - Both Sides Now: This piano instrumental from Dan Troxell comes from his 2003 release; he is very prolific (as well as skilled) and plays in a romantic and efficient style. 11. Jiros Tojyo - The Circle Game: From Japan, this version some pizzicato strings and some other cheesy flourishes. 12. Kathy Moore - Woodstock: Michigander Kathy Moore is a voice teacher and music therapist. This 2007 cover of Woodstock features some nice tribal percussion and lots of other original touches. 13. Cold War Kids - All I Want: This unreleased performance was featured on AOL Spinner and wasn't officially released. The vocal is a little raw and flat at times, and veers into hard-to-listen-to territory. My son has a couple CWK CD's; they're a fairly well-known indie band from California. 14. Anki - Olen Paivan Peili Ja Viikon Saa (You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio/Finnish): Dating back to 1973, this is one of the older recordings in the set. I never thought I'd get to hear this one but thanks to its re-release on a boxset it is now readily available. She also covered "Chelsea Morning" and I'm still on the prowl for that one. As the title says, this is in Finnish and is a straightforward of Joni's original. 15. Illauna Zauderer Parker - A Case Of You: Illana is a San Fransisco cabaret singer, she won "Best Broadway Female Vocalist" in Bay-area competition back in 2000 and has performed in many shows since, bot in SF and also on and off-Broadway. This pleasant read of ACOY comes from her 2008 release "Hot In Here". 16. Julio Martini - Both Sides Now: This one goes back 20 years - it's an elevator muzaky version with lots of strings, not awful but nothing too terrific either. 17. Richard Taylor - Big Yellow Taxi: Don't know much about Richard, but this track comes from his self-titled album of 2009. It's a slightly-embellished remake of the Counting Crows interpretation, it does feature some nice acoustic guitar work. 18. Penny Davies & Roger Ilott - The Circle Game: A straighforward read from their 2009 album "Moon Caller". Very pleasant guitar and harmonies. Penny & Roger are from Australia and play folk festivals all over the country. 19. Will Young - Help Me: British singer Will Young was the winner of 2002's "Pop Idol" competition. This live track, a bonus track on a CD-single he released in 2009, is fresh and poppy, George Michael-ish. 20. Michael Clay - River: Born and bred in Texas, Michael took his talents to Nashville and was with the Grand Ole Opry for a while - now he lives and performs in Austin. He definitely brings his country sensibilities to River, and interesting choice for a cowboy unless you're talkin' about one a them Brokeback Mountain cowboys. 21. Jill Kirkland - Both Sides Now: Not saving the best for last, this 1969 recording is a charming, warbly little thing. Can't tell you much about Jill; obviously this record did not vault her to stardom. And there it is; 21 tracks, 21 hits - all on one CD! Hope you enjoyed it, hope you enjoyed some of it and if any of it moves you to post one way or another (remember that I don't record 'em, I just collect 'em). I'll be back in a couple weeks with a blast from the past, and will unveil a new assortment of freshly ground Joni covers in a month - the show marches on - and that's good for Joni! Bob NP: Tom Waits, "On The Nickel" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 04:41:44 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Troubadour Reunion Oh ok - interesting - thanks for clarifying. :) Em - --- On Mon, 3/1/10, whizzboom@comcast.net wrote: From: whizzboom@comcast.net Subject: Troubadour Reunion To: joni@smoe.org Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 3:49 AM Hey gang, Just to help clear up the questions - the Carole King and JT tour is, in fact, named after the club. They played together at the Troubadour for the first time since the 70's for the club's 50th anniversary celebration which is what sparked the idea behind the tour. Despite his romantic relations with JM and Carly, CK and JT were musically inseparable in 70 and 71, touring in each other's bands - CK was an honorary member of Jo Mama and played piano all over the Sweet Baby James and Mud Slide Slim albums. JT plays on almost every track of CK's Writer album and made contributions to Tapestry as well. They have a history of crashing each other's concerts for the inevitable You Got a Friend encore. I have a boot of one of Carole's Troubadour gigs in support of Tapestry - I can't remember if JT plays on it, but they were often a package deal for those 2 years. RE: You're so Vain - I could swear Carly already went on record about this years ago, saying that the song was a composite sketch of Mick Jagger and Warren Beatty. Carly's latest album is a series of reworked older tracks that went largely unnoticed on a tiny label. I can't help but think this whole shebang is a publicity stunt. Kind of a bummer. Hope everyone is doing well! Cheers, Chris Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:40:00 -0500 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Re: NutraSilver???? Deb- I can't verify the veracity of the site's statements, but I'm suspect of several things including numerous mistakes in spelling and grammar (lose spelled as loose, for example). Also the quote from Joni doesn't sound like Joni at all, does it? from the article----She said bMost of them are out for the money and pretend they know about Morgellons so she would come back for further help.b----- I just don't hear Joni saying that, and nevermind the fact that toward the end of the quote, "she" is used in place of "I" as if she started out talking in first person and switched to third person. Besides all of that, Colloidal Silver, while having anti-bacterial properties, can also have the horrible permanent side effect of turning the skin blue. It has been a popular treatment in alternative health for years, but apparently, the silver is not flushed from the body and your fingernails and lips begin turning blue, and if you continue to take it, your skin turns blue. I hope that, if this site has posted this without Joni's consent, that her management is informed. Ken np: Jesca Hoop, Angel Mom - -----Original Message----- From: Deb Messling To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:42 pm Subject: NutraSilver???? Can anyone verify the following information? This post asserts that his product has alleviated Joni's Morgellon's symptons: I waited and waited until Joni actually called me to say that many of her orst symptoms had either subsided or were mostly gone. She said she was eginning to feel like herself again and that her brain fog was learing up and she could think clearly once more. She has since bought everal hundred bottles for herself. I'm assuming that this is an extremely cynical example of someone xploiting Joni's fame for the sake of peddling snake oil. http://careman.wordpress.com/2009/12/19/62/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------Deb essling -^..^-dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:16:03 -0700 From: Walt Breen Subject: She gets silver, he gets gold. Hi, all I read Deb Messing's post and the link about Joni's taking something called NutraSilver: <> I'm concerned, too, for two reasons. (1) Aren't most heavy metals toxic at any but the most miniscule levels? I'm not a doctor, nor do I even play one on TV, so maybe heavy metals are prescibed in tiny amounts for a variety of illnesses. I know that athletes, especially bodybuilders, take chromium supplements, but on the bottles I've seen, there are dire warnings about taking too much of the stuff. (2) Am I being a snob, or does it bother anyone else that "Careman's" posting is full of grammatical errors, some sentences even missing words? On the other hand, **if** the stuff is harmless, and it makes Joni feel better, then I'm for it, even if its efficacy is a result of the placebo effect. It would help if Joni herself announced she was feeling better enough to get back to work. I wouldn't take the word of a possible snakeoil salesman. Any of the docs and lawyers in our gang have any feelings about this? (Lawyers because I'm wondering if the guy made up the whole story, and Joni has never heard of Careman or Nutrasilver, is it actionable? Best to all, Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:23:17 +0000 From: whizzboom@comcast.net Subject: Re: Troubadour Reunion Hi, I forgot to mention - part of what made the touring scenario work (and possibly what kept the ck/jt union sane and out of trouble) was that Carole's husband of the time, Charles Larkey, was a full-time member of Jo Mama which, as I failed to clarify, was JT's Mud Slide touring band. So, by packaging the tour, the couple was able to stay together on the road and it also provided countless opps to recreate the studio arrangements they'd shared. THERE - now it all makes sense. Happy Monday, Chris Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T - -----Original Message----- From: Em Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 04:41:44 To: ; Subject: Re: Troubadour Reunion Oh ok - interesting - thanks for clarifying. :) Em - --- On Mon, 3/1/10, whizzboom@comcast.net wrote: From: whizzboom@comcast.net Subject: Troubadour Reunion To: joni@smoe.org Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 3:49 AM Hey gang, Just to help clear up the questions - the Carole King and JT tour is, in fact, named after the club. They played together at the Troubadour for the first time since the 70's for the club's 50th anniversary celebration which is what sparked the idea behind the tour. Despite his romantic relations with JM and Carly, CK and JT were musically inseparable in 70 and 71, touring in each other's bands - CK was an honorary member of Jo Mama and played piano all over the Sweet Baby James and Mud Slide Slim albums. JT plays on almost every track of CK's Writer album and made contributions to Tapestry as well. They have a history of crashing each other's concerts for the inevitable You Got a Friend encore. I have a boot of one of Carole's Troubadour gigs in support of Tapestry - I can't remember if JT plays on it, but they were often a package deal for those 2 years. RE: You're so Vain - I could swear Carly already went on record about this years ago, saying that the song was a composite sketch of Mick Jagger and Warren Beatty. Carly's latest album is a series of reworked older tracks that went largely unnoticed on a tiny label. I can't help but think this whole shebang is a publicity stunt. Kind of a bummer. Hope everyone is doing well! Cheers, Chris Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:36:32 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni Ballet in L.A. I am so sorry I missed this. It sounds like you guys had a blast as usual. I am headed to san Diego on Thursday and Arroyo Grande on Friday then up close to the bay area on Saturday in Antioch if anyone wants to come out. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:19 AM, wrote: We all had such a great time Friday night. It was wonderful to get together with so many old "SoCal' Joni friends and also to briefly meet Richard from San Francisco. Richard - I wish you could have joined us for the after-party - - next time for sure! I've had messages from Lesli that she also attended the rehrearsal on Saturday and the performance, so Lesli, please send in your report, if you haven't already ;-) My experience of the ballet are similar to Steve's. It was really, really great to hear Joni's recordings on a top notch system in a top notch concert hall. I'm sure the audiophiles among us would have agreed. I heard so many more nuances and layers in her music than ever before. Sheer beauty. Absent her performing live, it was the next best thing. The dancers were really fantastic - so energetic and also so elegant. I also had a bit of a disconnect between the themes of the music and the dancing. The dancers were just so full of life but juxtaposed against the war and desolation of the planet themes, I had some cognitive dissonance. It was a bit hard to focus on the bright, youthful and fresh energy of the dancers and also focus on images of soldiers and Stalin and Bush at the same time LOL. The only thing I can figure from a "message" standpoint is maybe "well, the whole world is going to hell but the younger generations coming up may turn it around." Or, alteratively, it might be seen as an absurdist/ existentialist take on it all. Not sure. One thing that struck me strongly was why Joni has embraced and enjoyed this latest project so much - she was so in love with dancing early on. it must have been so much fun for her to work with the dancers and the choreography. We all had a wonderful dinner and party at Coyote Rick's afterward and stayed well into the wee hours of the morning telling our personal Joni stories and reminiscing about all the various Joni events we have all attended with each other over some 13 years (!) now! It is a great testament to our little group here that we have had such wonderful collective experiences and memories to treasure over all these years. Thanks very much to Les for his generosity in making a few tickets available to our group. We really wish he could have joined us. Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:44:20 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: NutraSilver???? I hope she isn't taking any of it. Tests are just now revealing how many of the wealthy from past cultures died from gold poisoning. It was ingested because it was supposed to possess healing powers. Jerry On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:40 AM, wrote: > Deb- > I can't verify the veracity of the site's statements, but I'm suspect of > several things including numerous mistakes in spelling and grammar (lose > spelled as loose, for example). Also the quote from Joni doesn't sound > like > Joni at all, does it? from the article----She said b Most of them are out > for the money and pretend they know about Morgellons so she would come back > for further help.b ----- > I just don't hear Joni saying that, and nevermind the fact that toward the > end > of the quote, "she" is used in place of "I" as if she started out talking > in > first person and switched to third person. > > Besides all of that, Colloidal Silver, while having anti-bacterial > properties, > can also have the horrible permanent side effect of turning the skin blue. > It > has been a popular treatment in alternative health for years, but > apparently, > the silver is not flushed from the body and your fingernails and lips begin > turning blue, and if you continue to take it, your skin turns blue. > > I hope that, if this site has posted this without Joni's consent, that her > management is informed. > > Ken > np: Jesca Hoop, Angel Mom > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deb Messling > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:42 pm > Subject: NutraSilver???? > > > Can anyone verify the following information? This post asserts that > his product has alleviated Joni's Morgellon's symptons: > I waited and waited until Joni actually called me to say that many of her > orst symptoms had either subsided or were mostly gone. She said she was > eginning to feel like herself again and that her brain fog was > learing up and she could think clearly once more. She has since bought > everal hundred bottles for herself. > I'm assuming that this is an extremely cynical example of someone > xploiting Joni's fame for the sake of peddling snake oil. > http://careman.wordpress.com/2009/12/19/62/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------Deb > essling -^..^-dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:12:06 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: The Fiddle and The Drum in L.A. I'd like to offer a brief non-professional review here. I am so glad I traveled to L.A. for these performances, I can't tell you. I will add here that seeing the DVD in no way prepared me for the full force of these terrific dancers' live energy and talent. Plus, seeing the expanded work as a whole on one stage live is an incomparable experience. Again, these are my personal observations, not a dance critic's review. That being said...the new additions, Shine, The Reocurring Dream, Ethiopia, and Woodstock are simply stunning. Friday night was very exciting, being the L.A. premiere of this masterful work. For those of us who have the DVD, and I assume that is many of us, there's no need to review the cyclops video except to describe the new additional works. And I may need some help here, as memory isn't what she used to be. So fellow JMDLr's who were there, please fill in the details. For Woodstock, Joni has selected fragments of her lyrics of this song that are projected onto the circular screen, and accompany the dancers. It starts out as one dancer alone, 'walking along the road', and builds to the entire company, and it is very magical, and celebratory, in spite of the dirgelike music of the song from Travelogue. Jean Grand-Maitre's signature choreographic vocabulary is present throughout. Ethiopia was also mind-blowing with the visuals shown behind it, of an African sun and sunset, and the movement akin to African dance, circles, and coupling. There is an image of an African mask that fills the cyclops video screen at one point at the beginning after the sunset (what's the name of the mask again, Lesli?) and During the break "little garden planet, oasis in space..." the dancers lie down on the floor, stage lighting goes dark and only the screen is visible, with polarized colored film images of animals that are about to become or already have gone extinct from this planet. It was stunning. The Reoccuring Dream has a set, with a couch facing the audience, with a TV console in front of it facing backstage, and a male dancer in between the two, facing the audience holding the remote control in his hand, switching channels. Of note is that there is a cat sitting on the couch next to him. As he switches channels dancers bound out of the wings cross the stage, mouth the lyrics, and the piece is cleverly and pointedly political. Very musical choreography for this new piece. Shine is magnificent. The young girl motif, seen at the beginning and in Big Yellow Taxi is present again. She is the daughter of the Ballet Master, as it turns out but more about that later. She and a dancer enter during the musical introduction, and he lies down, while she sits behind him and observes and reacts to the dancers who move about again in Jean Grande's signature moves expressing what the lyrics are saying, abstractly of course. It is of course an anthem to the innocent youth who is facing the turmoils of this world we have given her. It's a very emotional piece, and for the life of me I can't remember what the images projected on the screen were for Shine, I was so so focused on the dancing. I'll make a few observations of the other pieces which are on the DVD/first edition of the ballet. Sex Kills, well, it slayed me. Written during the height of the AIDS plague here, I hadn't quite realized how it would affect me seeing this dance live. There is an image at the very beginning of the video, of people at a protest against the FDA, with one person holding a poster saying "We Don't Need Bigots. We Need Experts" and the person next to him wearing a t-shirt with the ACT-UP logo on it, and a pink triangle. This image really brought the piece home to me. The dancing, the coupling and the preening, the male-on-male duets, was all very evocative and dark to me. And I never quite realized how much of song related to the AIDS epidemic specifically, and our social ills in general. "these tumors of the skin", and other lyrics....it made me cry. The Three Great Stimulants, has this contrpuntal footwork that has to be seen live to be believed. The 3 dancers who dance artifice, brutality and innocence are mind-blowing in their precision. Loved this piece. "IF" is danced in modern hip-hop style ala Jean Grand again, but the dancers face the audience, and are clearly dancing this piece into our hearts, uplifting and empowering us, as well as themselves. There is a lot of whopping and noise-making from them as they cheer each other on in the exceptional solos, and they clap in rhythm throuhout. It is brilliant. Friday night the entire audience gave them a standing ovation after "IF" and then they went directly into the jubuliant Big Yellow Taxi. And then another extended standing ovation. I can't really say enough about the amazing Albert Ballet troupe. On Friday after the performance, we were treated to an onstage discussion and Q&A with Jean Grand and Kellie McKinlay, a dancer with the company for 8 years, who mostly talked about how the ballet was created and how it was to work with Joni. This was fascinating. I wish someone had recorded it for us. I did not take notes and the memory is not as good as it used to be. So come on folks who were there, fill in the blanks. What I remember was that when Joni came to see the work Jean had created, and give her feedback, she told the company they were dancing TO the music, and that she wanted them to dance IN the music, and so Jean re-created contrapointal steps and movements, which work so much better. This is contemporary ballet, not classical and the athleticism of the company shines through. The company all appeared in the Opening ceremonies of the Vancouver 2010 games, but were not allowed to talk about it until now, due to confidentiality agreements they had all signed. Jean Grand choreographed it, and they were all in it. The discussion Friday night, Jean told us, was being recorded for Joni, who couldn't be there. And that he would bring it right over to her as soon as he left the theater. Saturday afternoon the company held a Master Class, which I didn't attend. And then following that, they had an open rehearsal and about 30 or so people had signed up and showed up for it. This was a rare experience into a ballet company. Very informal, we were introduced to the amazing ballet masters, Beverly and Edmond, who led the dancers through some bits from Stimulants, and from Beat of Black Wings. You'd think they wouldn't need to rehearse, but we were told there were always little things that could be better. And a new dancer was doing Stimulants that night, who had to practice it a bit. Then the entire company came and sat at the foot of the stage and the ballet master & mistress led a discussion and q&a. Some of the questions I remember (again, help me out people who were there!) Asked about previous familiarity with Joni's music, and answered other than BYT, they were fairly clueless, but in the process of learning the dance and working with Joni had become enamored and taken her songs to heart. Kellie wanted to make sure everyone knew that Joni had created over 80 open tunings for guitar that were unprecedented in music. They said they not only learned the lyrics but sing them to themselves during the dance. They hate the green body paint, it is foundation type makeup and can't wait to get it off after each show, especially since there aren't showers in most of the halls they play in. They also answered some general questions about dance: how do dancers remember the steps (muscle memory and practice comes naturally after years of training), and what do dancers eat (whatever they want, different dancers have different metabolisms and require food before or after dance and carbs or no-carbs etc). What struck me was how relaxed, grounded and open this company is. Their enormous generousity in sharing their feelings and experiences was something entirely rare in the ballet world. There were no affectations or airs of superiority, but rather a comraderie and willingness to share with us the audience and each other. Very heart-warming and endearing. One dancer talked about his wife giving birth just as they were dancing in the Opening Ceremonies at Vancouver, and how amazing that was for him: and no, they did not name the daughter Olympia, but rather Adora. The delight in other company members faces in his telling of this story was apparent. I spoke with this dancer backstate after the Q&A ended, and asked all my questions until the stage manager had to interrupt us so he could get his break before the performance. I was also able to speak with the ballet mistress, Beverly, and also the company manager, Paul, out in the lobby before Saturday night's performance. Such genuine and caring people. I imagine that the Canadian ethos that permeates that country, much more social-minded than Amerika, pervades this ballet company as well. Paul, the company manager, told me in the lobby, they had merchandise, but only CD's to sell. There was some international rights issue to the DVD, and also the company has no marketing department at all, zero. I was disappointed not to be able to buy some dvd's from them as gifts, since purchasing them from Amazon or elsewhere does not benefit the ballet company nearly as much as direct sales from them. Alas, he said, he knew, but nothing he could do. Some of the dancers during the rehearsal wore T-shirts from this ballet too, which also sadly were not on sale there. He also told me Joni had really wanted to come to these performances, to see how "her kids" were doing with the work now, and give them gratitude, and ask and answer questions. They all thought she might, but then she didn't feel like she was able to, even to sit backstage in the wings and watch, and the company manager had notes from her to give to them, and would take notes back from them to her. Hearing this made us very sad ...as you can imagine. It was a delight to meet other JMDL'rs, and one special one, you know who you are! Please add the myriad details I have left off, as there was just so much to take in this glorious weekend. ~Richard in San Francisco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:41:56 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: NutraSilver???? Colloidal Silver is a big business, and a controversial treatment in the alternative health world. Some swear by it's effectiveness, others warn of it's toxicity, while others insist that it's all about the size of the molecules, etc... This article brings up several questions. The author says she sent the product to Joni's manager in Canada. I'd be surprised to learn she has management there. Joni supposedly has spent "hundreds of thousands of dollars" seeking treatment. Even for a wealthy person, this seems pretty high. Maybe she's a bad doc shopper? The author says Joni bought "several hundred" bottles of the stuff- even 200 bottles would last over 5 years. The author describes getting a phone call and mail from Joni, then at the end, says he was glad to have "met" her. Regarding the description of Morgellon's, he says the skin of sufferers develop multi-colored fibers coated in polyurethane that withstand 1400 deg. heat. Surely this would be simple to document, not to mention being a major scientific discovery-that the human body can produce petrochemically-based plastic. (Polyurethane normally has a melting point of about 350 deg F). I'm not saying there is no such thing as Morgellon's, or that Joni has not used "careman's" product, but I find some of the statements highly suspect. RR From: "Deb Messling" > Can anyone verify the following information? This post asserts that > this product has alleviated Joni's Morgellon's symptons: > http://careman.wordpress.com/2009/12/19/62/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:47:48 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: The Fiddle and The Drum in L.A. You're welcome Bob. And I seem to have left a few bits out. In Ethiopia: The mask (whose name Lesli will hopefully provide) has Joni's face in the center: it's a beautiful portrait. Also, at the end of this piece, as the dancers circle around the stage, there is one spotlight from overhead projected down, so that each dancer is illuminated one by one as they pass under it, and each one mimes and acts out a different aspect: hunger, pain, disease: it is harrowing ending of this piece..... The company consists of 30 members, so that the end of Woodstock, and for If and BYT they are all on stage, it's quite an ensemble. ~Richard On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, wrote: > > Hi Richard, that was great - thanks so much for all of the lush detail as I > doubt that this show will make it to South Carolina. :-) Really appreciate > it. > > Bob > > Ethiopia was also mind-blowing with the visuals shown behind it, of an > African sun and sunset, and the movement akin to African dance, circles, > and coupling. There is an image of an African mask that fills the cyclops > video screen at one point at the beginning after the sunset (what's the name > of the mask again, Lesli?) and During the break "little garden planet, oasis > in space..." the dancers lie down on the floor, stage lighting goes dark > and only the screen is visible, with polarized colored film images of > animals that are about to become or already have gone extinct from this > planet. It was stunning. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:29:25 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NutraSilver???? Randy, it was that line about the fibres coated with polyurethane that made me think, "WTF?" The ability to withstand 1400 degree heat also made me laugh, in a sick way though, as I imagined the weird experimentation going on. (And you proved this... how?) I also went to a link to another article, that claimed this stuff killed 99.99999 (give or take a few nines) per cent of MRSA bacteria. Oh, really? And the FDA isn't on to it? And big pharma hasn't snapped up the patent on it? Like you, I'm not going to come right out and say there's no such thing as Morgellon's, but I wonder where she got the diagnosis if so? I know she has talked about how "doctors' pills give you brand new ills" and I can't disagree with that, and I'm always willing to try alternative therapies as long as I see minimal risk, but there's a limit. I'm very skeptical about this guy's (or woman's?) claims. As well, as far as my foggy brain remembers, I don't think people were skeptical about HIV and AIDS in the beginning as this person claims, and that research was being done right from the start, and that research led to discoveries in what seems to me a fairly short time, when you consider how long they've been working on a cure for various cancers. ________________________________ From: Randy Remote To: Deb Messling ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 1:41:56 PM Subject: Re: NutraSilver???? Regarding the description of Morgellon's, he says the skin of sufferers develop multi-colored fibers coated in polyurethane that withstand 1400 deg. heat. Surely this would be simple to document, not to mention being a major scientific discovery-that the human body can produce petrochemically-based plastic. (Polyurethane normally has a melting point of about 350 deg F). I'm not saying there is no such thing as Morgellon's, or that Joni has not used "careman's" product, but I find some of the statements highly suspect. RR __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer. 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:34:42 -0500 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: colloidal silver treatment Hi All- Here is a link to a CNN segment on a man who used colloidal silver for years and now has turned blue. I have seen him on the today show as well. Although silver is known to have anti-bacterial properties, perhaps it's not something one should ingest! http://www.maniacworld.com/man-with-blue-skin.html Let's hope Joni's "Blue" doesn't end up being prophetic for the wrong reasons! I hope that Joni is getting the very best care, no matter what. I'm starting to think that fatigue is the plague of our times. Also thought about the lyric from Sex Kills-- "the ulcerated ozone, these tumors of the skin" and how that takes on a new relevance in light of the Morgellon's diagnosis. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:08:02 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: NutraSilver???? > Regarding the description of Morgellon's, he says the skin of sufferers > develop multi-colored fibers coated in polyurethane that withstand > 1400 deg. heat. Surely this would be simple to document, not to > mention being a major scientific discovery-that the human body > can produce petrochemically-based plastic. (Polyurethane normally has a > melting point of about 350 deg F). > I'm not saying there is no such thing as Morgellon's, or that Joni has > not used "careman's" product, but I find some of the statements highly > suspect. > RR I thought these statements were particularly outrageous. Thanks for point them out, RR. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #58 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe