From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #51 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, February 23 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 051 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fwd: Joni... [Gerald Notaro ] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle [Laura Stanley ] Lyric dilemma!!! [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Rolling Stone [Gerald Notaro ] Re: MDS (now jc) [Michael Paz ] Re: Rolling Stone [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle ["Cassy" ] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle [Catherine McKay ] RE: Lyric dilemma!!! [Susan Tierney McNamara ] No Joni in Seattle ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Lyric dilemma!!! [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:55:17 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Fwd: Joni... Phil is a New Zealander here at USF: Jerry - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Van Beynen, Philip Date: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Joni... To: "Notaro, Gerald" Hi Gerry, Thank you for your thoughtful gift of the Joni Mitchell CD mix. I was struck how beautiful her song was portrayed at the Winter Olympics with a dancer flying over the Canadian Prairies. As you know, Kaya is also a Joni fan. All the best, Phil. Philip van Beynen, Ph.D. Associate Professor Graduate Director Department of Geography, Environmental Science and Policy Program University of South Florida 4202 East Fowler Ave, NES 107 Office NES 313 Tampa, FL 33620-5200 Ph: (813) 974-3026 Fax: (813) 974-2184 email: vanbeyne@cas.usf.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:52:02 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle I'm so glad that Joni is finally going to meet Cassy! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:24:52 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle An article in today's Seattle Times makes it sound unlikely Joni will make an appearance. Also sounds as if she was issued an invitation to the Vancouver Olympic Games but declined due to illness. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:04:57 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:38:16 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Rolling Stone From the review of Amchitka: But the night belonged to a giggly, incandescent Joni Mitchell, previewing songs from her future classic Blue. Choice moment: "Big Yellow Taxi" segueing in the Fifties hit "Bony Moronie," for no good reason save rock and roll pleasure. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:42:09 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: MDS (now jc) sounds like whiny Joan to me Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Walt Breen wrote: Hi Laura and Mike and all, I'm pretty sure that MSD is Mitchell Doldrums Syndrome, the main symptom of which is a reaction of sadness or annoyance when the sufferer hears that *maybe* Joni will put her boxed set, and maybe Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:55:41 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Rolling Stone I saw that over the weekend - was glad to see that they finally got a round to it. 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I do hope they go through with more of these! ________________________________ From: Scott Price To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 3:24:52 PM Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle An article in today's Seattle Times makes it sound unlikely Joni will make an appearance. Also sounds as if she was issued an invitation to the Vancouver Olympic Games but declined due to illness. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I just listened to it (Couriers Folk Club appearance) and I hear what you hear, Sue. For anyone that doesn't have this and would like to give it a listen, here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNBYlJSSU9veE0wTVE9PQ ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:57 PM Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:12:06 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Lyric dilemma!!! Thanks for that Catherine, There are even more mistakes in the first verse too - right words between **, wrong words in brackets: Now comes the morning Wet with the kiss of *evening* [midnight] Shadows *fade sulking away* [stayed sulking in the way] Sunshine for dreaming Blackest magic to believe in Spectrums *bend rainbows and rays* [and rainbows and days] ... Discussion? Les, I will forward you with corrections once the group conscience has agreed! :) ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:41 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I just listened to it (Couriers Folk Club appearance) and I hear what you hear, Sue. For anyone that doesn't have this and would like to give it a listen, here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNBYlJSSU9veE0wTVE9PQ ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:57 PM Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:30:20 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: No Joni in Seattle Alberta Ballet has been informed by Ms. Mitchell's business manager that she will be unable to attend the performance of Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle and The Drum on February 23, 2010 in Seattle due to poor health. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:37:17 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I've listened to it a bunch of times and am having trouble hearing the words in the second part of the first verse. I tried to do this without paying attention to your words, so I wouldn't be influenced. ;-) Here's what I hear, with alternate possibilities. I'm completely with you on the first three lines of the first verse. I've written what I heard for the next three lines, even after listening a few times, but they don't make a lot of sense. I listened a few times more, after reading your words, and the only line I still can't really hear is the last line of the first verse, but what I hear doesn't make sense and I don't think Joni would write something like that. Here are the complete lyrics as I hear them. I'd love to hear what others think: Now comes the morning Wet with the kiss of evening Shadows fade sulking away Some shine for dreaming (this doesn't make sense, so I think "Sunshine for dreaming" is probably it - on a 5th listen, that is what I hear) Like with magic to believe in (once again, this doesn't make much sense, and it's sloppy writing, so it's probably wrong! After another few listens, I hear what you hear) Spectrums and rainbows ending (or and days) (why would spectrums and rainbows end if the sun is shining? and otherwise, why would you have a list of "spectrums and rainbows and days" - it's sloppy.)(Even after listening a bunch of times, I can't hear this properly, but I'd bet you're right.) I never saw sky so free Never so blue Morning with mystic pageantry Unveils a time for sharing love with you Come to the sunshine Sharing the quiet of knowing No need for telling you sometimes When all the answers are so plainly showing Teach me to tell you All the feelings I've been learning Tell me to teach you my heart New words are crazy Old love words keep returning All words seem wrong from the start So I will tell you with my eyes Say with a kiss Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Come to the sunshine Sharing the quiet of knowing No need for telling you sometimes When all the answers are so plainly showing ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: Catherine McKay ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 6:12:06 PM Subject: RE: Lyric dilemma!!! Thanks for that Catherine, There are even more mistakes in the first verse too - right words between **, wrong words in brackets: Now comes the morning Wet with the kiss of *evening* [midnight] Shadows *fade sulking away* [stayed sulking in the way] Sunshine for dreaming Blackest magic to believe in Spectrums *bend rainbows and rays* [and rainbows and days] ... Discussion? Les, I will forward you with corrections once the group conscience has agreed! :) ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:41 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I just listened to it (Couriers Folk Club appearance) and I hear what you hear, Sue. For anyone that doesn't have this and would like to give it a listen, here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNBYlJSSU9veE0wTVE9PQ ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:57 PM Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. 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