From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #46 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 18 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 046 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: BSN Olympic video [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Mining Misery for Fun and Profit (was Dunno life at all) [Walt Breen ] Re: Gerald [Anita G ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:34:59 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: RE: BSN Olympic video Thanks for that, Sue. The whole thing was beautiful. I loved that Donald Sutherland read from some of Canada's greatest poets' works and this connection makes it even more special. Mark in Sydney NP We Are The World - Artists For Haiti ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:00:18 -0700 From: Walt Breen Subject: Mining Misery for Fun and Profit (was Dunno life at all) Willie said: <> Joni has never struck me as *being* miserable, at least not most of the time. But I agree she mines her miseries -- which all of us have, even the happiest of us -- to create some of the most elegant lyrics I've ever known. Things tend to get boring when life is going well, so it's harder to write songs about being happy, imho, although of course, Joni has done so with varying degrees of success. When one *is* in physical or psychic pain, one way to deal with it is to look the difficulty right in the eye, anaylize it and defy or overcome it. People of an artistic bent tend to put this process out in one way or another. I've had my share of difficulties, but my way of dealing with some of the most dire periods of my life, believe it or not, is to find humor in it. I'm not sure whether this is something that can be learned or whether one has to be born with this quality. I seem to share some qualities with stand-up comedians. Joni's current ailments aside, I read her Shine album as being mostly content, with some grumbling about the state of the world. I found "If I Had a Heart I'd Cry" puzzling, because if she *didn't* have a heart, she wouldn't bother sharing her concerns with the state of the world. I think here she's maybe admitting to being disheartened, but not actually heartless. I love the title song because it's gentle in its admonitions to just be aware of the world around you, even funny at times. And "If", while adapted from Kipling, still dispenses good advice to a lovely melody, and those who hate the original poem because of it's closing lines about being "a man" must notice that she eschews these lines and puts in something inspiring. Oh, and if Joni's wealth allowed her to buy oils, canvas, cigarrettes, drugs and men, all I can say is "How like a male rock star!" :-) Cheers to all, Walt p.s. Anyone else a Ginny Most fan? I don't know if she's still with CNN, but her features always crack me up, and she seems like a fun person to have a beer with. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:35:29 -0800 (PST) From: Willie Yanock Subject: Gerald I won't lower myself to respond to your personal attack. I don't hate any woman. What most men don't realize is that most women are gentle souls, sensitive, warm and caring and are hard working. Most women work their asses off and are under a lot of stress. They come home after long hours of work, then take of children, feed and take care of all their problems. Then they clean up after their husbands and pretend to enjoy their man at night when they are exhausted and have to go back to work in just a couple of hours and goes on day after day. No other human can accept this role even the act of giving birth is beyond the pain threshold of any man. The average woman living today is suffering and as a man I'm deeply respect them all and motherhood is the most thankless difficult job in the world. But that's only my opinion. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:29:07 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Gerald Willie, it's heartening, at last, to have my status as a woman truly recognised and acknowledged here on JMDL. In view of this, I will be anticipating due deference from everyone, although absolute homage will not be required Anita On 17 February 2010 16:35, Willie Yanock wrote: > I won't lower myself to respond to your personal attack. I don't hate any > woman. What most men don't realize is that most women are gentle souls, > sensitive, warm and caring and are hard working. Most women work their > asses > off and are under a lot of stress. They come home after long hours of work, > then take of children, feed and take care of all their problems. Then they > clean up after their husbands and pretend to enjoy their man at night when > they are exhausted and have to go back to work in just a couple of hours > and > goes on day after day. No other human can accept this role even the act of > giving birth is beyond the pain threshold of any man. The average woman > living > today is suffering and as a man I'm deeply respect them all and motherhood > is > the most thankless difficult job in the world. But that's only my opinion. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #46 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe