From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #173 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, June 28 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 173 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New boxed set due in November [Jamie Zubairi Home ] Re: New boxed set due in November [Bob Muller ] Re: New boxed set due in November ["Gary Z." ] Re: New boxed set due in November ["Cassy" ] Re: New boxed set due in November [Michael Flaherty ] Re: New boxed set due in November ["Randy Remote" ] Never-Tired-of-Hearing Songs [Rian Afriadi ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:26:18 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November Here's to hoping it is the alternate musicians she used exploring Mingus! I'd like the demos for DED and a bit more. Let's also not forget that there's a DVD to go along with it. The first thing that I thought of was oh, it's gonna be a re-hash of PWWAM but then I thought (on my wishlist) The Carnegie Hall Concert (otherwise known as the Green Dress) please let that be remastered and DVD'd up. And also the documentary that recorded the making of T'log filmed here in England. $100 US it might be but in the UK it'll certainly go for B#100-150. Which means it'll be a big no-no for me. 2009/6/27 Mark Domyancich > Also cautiously optimistic due to the multitude of previous > compilations, but having unreleased and alternate songs is going to be > a big selling point for me. There's lots of live material out there, > but as far as "studio outtakes," just what's out there besides > Carnival in Kenora, Hunter, and the elusive alternate Mingus? Possibly > the guitar version of Shadows and Light? > > I sent in my liner note suggestion as well. Hope it gets included! > > Mark > > NP: MJ, Rock With You > - -- Jamie Zubairi Actor, Painter, Photographer. Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/965489410181 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 Website: http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Randomly Related Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:47:30 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Joni box set - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: Joni box set > > As for contributing to the liner notes, I wish someone would search > 12 years > of digests and find my best line to add LOL I feel like I've > already > essentially said it all about her, ad infinitum, heehee. > > Kakki Hi Kakki, I know exactly how you feel! (And *you* know that's the truth!). I submitted something but when I read the email about it I was under the impression that a winner would be announced yesterday (Thursday) and it was already Thursday morning. So it was off the cuff, brief (believe it or not) and not my best, I'm afraid. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November Well, there's "Day After Day", plus the entire ALBUM she recorded with The Siegel Schwall Band with studio versions of Eastern Rain and WAY different takes on Night In The City, The Circle Game, etc. Bob NP: Prince, "No More Candy For U" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:03:14 -0400 From: "Gary Z." Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November *I remembered reading about Joni discussing a possible box set a number of years ago from an article I had read in a magazine. Thanks to our excellent jonimitchell.com archives, I found that article, with some noteworthy information here from CD Review Magazine, July 1991: / "Are you thinking in terms of a boxed set? Record labels are putting a lot of care into these collections. /* *That definitely makes it more attractive than the old greatest hits albums. If it's done with care and a presentation of graphics inside, it could be a beautiful package. As a matter of fact, we've already begun. The tapes from my first record have been in David Crosby's possession all these years - it's like a miracle that they didn't go up in smoke or something. And there are a lot of [unreleased] songs from back then that would be impossible for me to sing now - they're really ingenue works.* *There also are some bits of banter between Crosby and me on the first record. And there is in existence the fledgling flight of "Both Sides Now" at the Second Fret in Philadelphia. Those things are archival, and they have value if you're preparing a boxed set package. But if someone makes a collection of songs that were hits or single releases but are not the best of what I do, that's the nightmare - to miss the best performances.* */ How much work have you done on the boxed set so far? /* *We've begun the process of saving tapes. Old master tapes, like film, are deteriorating now - we've lived that long that they're beginning to go. So we're transferring over the early albums onto digital. In the process, we're looking at the raw footage, the uncut footage, and there's a lot that's salvageable there.* */ What kinds of material have you uncovered? /* *There are tracks from the Mingus album, which was cut with four of five different bands; with some of them I do better vocal performances. I wanted to come into jazz and take it somewhere. There are some tracks where I don't take it anywhere, that are just straight meat-and-potatoes jazz where I'm actually singing better than I did [on the commercially released tracks]. The album I put out is a little more out there.* *There's a lot of other stuff back there as well. For instance, the first album was a conceptual album. I had so much material that the first side is called "I Came to the City'' and the second side is called "Out of the City and Down to the Seaside." It's that same recurring theme: What are cities doing to nature? There are [unreleased] songs from that era, one of them called "Jeremy,'' which is a nice song about a kid thrown into prison for pot.* *There also are [unreleased songs with] pretty melodies and 'tunesmithy" lyrics. I've always been called a folk singer, from the time I made my first record. I've only recorded two folk songs in my whole career, but I used to sing folk songs before I began to write, and there are [tapes] of those - and that's kind of interesting. It's a piece of the evolution that's missing from [my] records." * *The complete article is available here: * *http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=63&from=search * *Best regards, * *Gary Z. Detroit* Bob Muller wrote: > Carnival in Kenora, Hunter, and the elusive alternate Mingus?> > > Well, there's "Day After Day", plus the entire ALBUM she recorded with The Siegel Schwall Band with studio versions of Eastern Rain and WAY different takes on Night In The City, The Circle Game, etc. > > Bob > > NP: Prince, "No More Candy For U" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:11:06 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November The outtakes I'd pay for would be the Mingus sessions with the alternate bands. I bet each take is smokin' in its own way, even if it didn't conform to the artist's "vision". The other thing I'd practically kill for would be some studio footage of Joni recording one of her classic albums (esp. Hejira) but I fear no footage was ever shot, those mostly being fairly private sessions with Joni and Henry Lewy. It's the studio geek in me of course but I'd just be fascinated by every choice of mic, guitar, every blooper, tech hitch and comment. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:09:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November Thanks for that, Gary - I think I read that but can't remember. Anyway, more encouragement that there will be a wealth of unreleased re-mastered stuff. I had forgotten about 'Jeremy'. Plus...once it comes out, maybe the pressure will not be so bad for the other unreleased stuff to get heard and shared. Bob NP: Sonic Youth, "Sacred Trickster" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:25:35 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November From: "Gary Z." <<< *I remembered reading about Joni discussing a possible box set a number of years ago from an article I had read in a magazine. Thanks to our excellent jonimitchell.com archives, I found that article, with some noteworthy information here from CD Review Magazine, July 1991: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=63&from=search >>> Thanks for that link, Gary. It's been a long time since I read it and my memory just isn't what it used to be, I rely on the internet so much these days I can't remember (laughing) what I did without it, of course I was much younger then. Well worth the time to read. love, Cassy NP: Dave Mason - World in Changes ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November The info in Gary's post makes me a bit less cautious in my optimism. In fact, the Mingus material alone, if there's enough of it, would make the box essential for me. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:33:04 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: New boxed set due in November Thanks for finding this, Gary. Let's hope there are lots of nuggets in there. I, too would love to hear some of the alt. Mingus, and footage of Carnigie Hall. I would think there is enough video to make several dvds if they wanted to. Note that most of Graham Nash's recent 3 CD box is downloadable as individual tracks on both itunes and Amazon. The only ones that weren't were the Crosby/Nash and Hollies tracks, presumably for licencing reasons. So hopefully people can cherry-pick tracks from the new Joni set as well. RR From: "Gary Z." I found that article, with some > noteworthy information here from CD Review Magazine, July 1991: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:12:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Never-Tired-of-Hearing Songs Bob wrote (on Michael Jackson thread) - - - I never got tired of hearing "Rock With You" when it came out. >> Same with me. For reasons unknown. I omit the NJC tag because this time I'm thinking about Joni songs that I never tired of hearing. Those are : 1. Carey. At first I didn't like the song because I thought it's not blue. I mean, melodically, it's not sad. A bit different from ACoY, Little Green, or The Last Time I Saw Richard etc. 2. Help Me. 3. Edith and Kingpin. 4. Conversation 5. Impossible Dreamer 6. Sex Kills 7. Both Sides Now 2000 8. Talk To Me 9. Jericho, Miles o Aisles version 10. Refuge of The Road Rian Zazie - Des Rails (I listen to lots of french music these days) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #173 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe