From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #121 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 5 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 121 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Covers 112 - May Day! [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: "Will You Take Me As I Am" and "Girls Like Us" [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Will you take me as I am - girls like us [Dflahm@aol.com] Thanks to all . . . [T Peckham ] Desperate Plea for Help!! (writing a paper about Joni) [MattJones Subject: Re: Covers 112 - May Day! I was referring to Thierry Antoine's accent. His arrangement is nice. I didn't particularly like Silvanus' arrangement of the song. Mark in Sydney. On 04/05/2009, at 9:10 AM, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Hi Mark, > I don't think it was Silvanus Slughter's thick accent that made me > dislike his cover. His voice was just AWFUL. > Now Vigdis Wisur cover of BSN was absolutely beautiful. I may get > sick of so many BSN covers, but she has the voice of an angel. > > Jimmy > > > > In a message dated 5/3/2009 5:48:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mark- > leon@iinet.net.au writes: > >> Thanks Bob for another great volume. I was most interested in hearing >> the cover of The Silky Veils of Ardor. Not many covers around of that >> song. I still prefer Tierry Antoine's cover. Apart from his thick >> accent, his guitar playing is superb. >> >> Mark in Sydney > > > > > > ************** > The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376998x1201454298/aol? > redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx? > sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May5309AvgfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:15:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: "Will You Take Me As I Am" and "Girls Like Us" Tara wrote (at the end of a much longer message): I've been wondering why there has been so little discussion on the list of Mercer's book, especially given the fact that at least a few here got advance copies. I understand that many likely just haven't read it yet. But I also wonder if some might be following the old adage "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything." That would be perfectly reasonable given Mercer's connection to the website and the JMDL. What I find unreasonable are the (still) repeated opinions that Weller's book is too gossipy, the implication being that it was somehow disrespectful of Joni, or that it wasn't thoroughly researched and documented. (BTW, the paperback edition of *Girls Like Us* is out, and every single error---such as the mileage between cities in Canada---that Ms. Weller was made aware of has been corrected and/or updated.) I suspect that some discussion is taking place off-list, which is cool. I just wish some of it would take place on the list---that's the point of it, right? But if anyone wants to email me offlist, pls. do. I don't bite--really. ;-) T Hi Tara! Thank you for your defense of Sheila Weller's book! Not that there is anything wrong with people who dislike it expressing their opinion, but I also happen to think it is a good book, and I have certainly set out my argument in detail here before, so thanks for carrying the torch! I just wanted to add: I think indeed that it is too early to expect much of a full debate on Michelle Mercer's book. I can understand that when Joni releases a new CD, most JMDLers will have read it within a couple of weeks. But a book written about Joni, even though many of us WILL be interested, may still have to take its turn in a long line of to-do things! Even if we narrow it down to books, I don't think I am the only one with about 10 books urgently waiting to be read. So I think this may become a slowly trickling, long drawn out discussion, rather than an intense debate that is taking place right now in private! If anyone knows of a good way of tracking down all messages on the same subject, so that this long thin line can more easily be picked up by people as and when they get to read the book, it would make the discussion much easier. In other words, is there any way that we can "park" those discussions somewhere separately, so that others can drive by and join at other times? Please let us know! Lieve in London ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: "Will You Take Me As I Am" and "Girls Like Us" hey Terra, thank you for taking the time to write such an indepth expose ... i enjoyed reading the information you set out about Sheila Weller's book. Once I have had a chance to read Michelle Mercer's book, I will gladly offer up something to the discussion. That said , I've already got some thoughts brewing on the back burner, but want to read first and get the context of some things I'm not too clear about. I *know* for a fact that the effects/influence/destruction of soul are real consequences of surrendering a baby to adoption. It's like being derailed and you can never fully find your way back. I think that Weller understands the repercussions of Joni's choice. The ramifications and after effects of surrendering a child is not easily understood, unless you've been there, and live there still. Because that's how it is. It's one of those life things that you just do not get over and it informs your very being. In recent months, I made a decision to not lay out my own personal stuff on this list anymore, but sometimes, the colour rises in my cheeks, my heart pounds, my hands shake and I just have to say something with the hope that my words and experiences might have meaning, might give some insight. I, too, am weary of the secrets and lies that "girls like us" were forced to live with, as we lived with out. much ado today, so I will leave it at that, for now. Mags npimh: always something there to remind me... __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer. 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:54:13 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: Pete Seeger- 90th birthday concert - links (See foto display links with the articles/reviews below.) This celebration of Pete Seeger's life and work was a smash! I was stupified by the fact that Madison Sq Gdns was sold out! All 19,500 seats! And it must have raised a ton of money for the Clearwater Foundation to clean polluted NY waterways. Scalpers were out on the sidewalk doing a roaring business as the crowd gathered at the gates - last thing I'd expect at a 'folk' concert. I honestly was concerned about how sad it would be to see empty seats in the cavernous arena for a performer I admire so greatly - that the organizers might have been too ambitious booking the largest venue in NYC. As usual, I worried for naught. Gig lasted from 5pm - 9:30pm, one 10 min. intermission (to do the only 'set' on the stage for a special performer - see below). We were lucky - seats right at the side of the stage, one section up from ground. Full of surprises! Springsteen, Mellencamp, Billy Bragg, Richie Havens and Taj Mahal, lead of Rage Against the Machine, Joan Baez, Roger McGuinn, Kris Kristofferson, Mellencamp, Dave Mastthews, Arlo Guthrie - more than I can list here. Eddie Vedder doesn't get mentioned as a guest - 'cause he was laid back playing 'house band piano' at rear stage rather than performing as a headliner, and went unrecognized by the press (and most in the audience I imagine). Even Caroll Spinney, Sesame Workshop's own white-haired septuagenarian Muppeteer behind Big Bird and other characters, made an appearance - with Oscar the Grouch helping frame the performance of "Garbage Garbage Garbage", the first number after intermission. (foto: http://tinyurl.com/cax8mr) That was a moving moment for me, given that I will soon be leaving the Workshop after 15 years and returning to Canada. It gave me a sense of pride in my worklife associations here in the US, and an even greater pleasurable optimistic sensation, in that I've found a way in the past to somehow connect my principles in both my working and personal life so many times in the past, I surely will be able to do the same in my new circumstances. I didn't know about CS's participation in advance, so it had quite an impact to see a co-worker sharing the wonderful evening 'with' me. The response to Oscar in the mixed age audience was uniform: a true recognition and affectionate identification with the Muppet, with a wave of audience chatter in reminiscences and pleasurable associations. And it fit the themes of the evening perfectly as well: the environmental concerns that still plague the country, the need to use music to connect children with their capacity for self-awareness and leadership in the community struggles in the future. It was a stroke of genius to have Oscar on the bill. PBS was there filming it. I hope it does air, and soon. With the political content of the music and artist comments, I will be surprised if they don't edit out a great deal of it. Pete constantly urges audience participation. This was no exception. Without prompting, audience members in their hundreds then thousands stood and sang along with familiar opening numbers. Then MC Tim Robbins requested singing, as the greatest tribute to Pete's traditions we could offer. The culmination was the closing number: 19,000 roaring "We Shall Overcome", on their feet, believing in every word, if only as a side effect of the powerful sense of community built over the evening's song. You wouldn't think, from the energy in the room, that we'd been there for over four hours. The ultra-conservative NY Post headline sums it up best : "It's one for the ages". Go to Democracy Now's website for today's retrospective on Pete's career as activist, songwriter and singer. As well as highlights and interviews from the concert. (Especially - view the tape of the spoken tribute Bruce Springsteen offered.... heartfelt, funny and even a little angry. BS's heart and commitment are reasons I remain a fan even when some of his music leaves me wanting.) http://www.democracynow.org/ And see how this was covered by the national press! An 'event' in itself for a formerly blacklisted off-the-charts musician. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/arts/music/05seeg.html?hpw http://tinyurl.com/d3zejc http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2009/05/04/2009-05-04_peter_se egers_music_in_bloom_at_garden_stars_honor_folk_singers_rich_legacy_at_9.html http://tinyurl.com/dlp8dv http://www.nypost.com/seven/05022009/entertainment/music/turn__turn__turn_90_ 167188.htm http://tinyurl.com/dl5lk7 http://www.nypost.com/seven/05042009/news/regionalnews/its_one_for_the_ages_1 67531.htm http://tinyurl.com/dj49r7 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/04/AR20090504006 62.html http://tinyurl.com/cwg784 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/one-more-honor-for-pete-s_b_195594 .html http://tinyurl.com/cqrwvf http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-menaker/for-petes-sake_b_195433.html?vie w=print http://tinyurl.com/dac6pd http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sns-ap-us-pete-seeger-concert,0,3513977.s tory http://tinyurl.com/ceblba http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-pete-seeger4-2009may04,0,5500 589.story http://tinyurl.com/d5vwbj Some of you in the past have expressed a lack of familiarity with the impact & significance of this American folk artist, so here's a BIO link. You'll be surprised at how many familiar tunes he has authored..... http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/pete-seeger/the-power-of-son g/50/ B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:21:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Pete Seeger- 90th birthday concert - links Thanks, Barbara. The whole thing sounds amazing. Lucky you to be there! I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Oscar the Grouch too. - --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Barbara Stewart wrote: This celebration of Pete Seeger's life and work was a smash! I was stupified by the fact that Madison Sq Gdns was sold out! All 19,500 seats! __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? 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(http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:43:02 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: "Will You Take Me As I Am" and "Girls Like Us" I'm still reading Girls Like Us, so that tells you how long it will take for me to get to and complete Will You Take Me As I Am. I am a colossally slow reader. (Well my actual reading speed is probably about normal. But I get interrupted a lot. I usually read while in bed but I have a hard time getting to bed at a reasonable time so that I have time to read.) But good lively discussion about both books is great to see. I think both books have different objectives, so I expect there to be a significant difference in them. I don't think that invalidates one over the other. Margaret, thank you for reinforcing what was said about the effects of giving up a child to adoption. It's one thing for someone to report on this. It's another thing entirely for it to come from someone who lived through it. I thank you for sharing that personal information and helping give context to the discussion. - -Corey On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Mags wrote: > hey Terra, > > thank you for taking the time to write such an indepth expose ... i enjoyed > reading the information you set out about Sheila Weller's book. Once I have > had a chance to read Michelle Mercer's book, I will gladly offer up > something > to the discussion. That said , I've already got some thoughts brewing on > the > back burner, but want to read first and get the context of some things I'm > not > too clear about. > > I *know* for a fact that the effects/influence/destruction of soul are > real > consequences of surrendering a baby to adoption. It's like being derailed > and > you can never fully find your way back. > > I think that Weller understands the repercussions of Joni's choice. The > ramifications and after effects of surrendering a child is not easily > understood, unless you've been there, and live there still. Because that's > how > it is. It's one of those life things that you just do not get over and it > informs your very being. > > In recent months, I made a decision to not lay out my own personal stuff on > this list anymore, but sometimes, the colour rises in my cheeks, my heart > pounds, my hands shake and I just have to say something with the hope that > my > words and experiences might have meaning, might give some insight. I, too, > am > weary of the secrets and lies that "girls like us" were forced to live > with, > as we lived with out. > > much ado today, so I will leave it at that, for now. > > Mags > > npimh: always something there to remind me... > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The new Internet Explorer. 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! > Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ > - -- http://www.CoreyBlake.com - a whole lot of me Newest video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suYs8fB5hjQ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:46:27 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Pete Seeger- 90th birthday concert - links You forgot to mention that PHJB was there in FULL force. Best Paz On May 4, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Barbara Stewart wrote: (See foto display links with the articles/reviews below.) This celebration of Pete Seeger's life and work was a smash! I was stupified by the fact that Madison Sq Gdns was sold out! All 19,500 seats! And it must have raised a ton of money for the Clearwater Foundation to clean polluted NY waterways. Scalpers were out on the sidewalk doing a roaring business as the crowd gathered at the gates - last thing I'd expect at a 'folk' concert. I honestly was concerned about how sad it would be to see empty seats in the cavernous arena for a performer I admire so greatly - that the organizers might have been too ambitious booking the largest venue in NYC. As usual, I worried for naught. Gig lasted from 5pm - 9:30pm, one 10 min. intermission (to do the only 'set' on the stage for a special performer - see below). We were lucky - seats right at the side of the stage, one section up from ground. Full of surprises! Springsteen, Mellencamp, Billy Bragg, Richie Havens and Taj Mahal, lead of Rage Against the Machine, Joan Baez, Roger McGuinn, Kris Kristofferson, Mellencamp, Dave Mastthews, Arlo Guthrie - more than I can list here. Eddie Vedder doesn't get mentioned as a guest - 'cause he was laid back playing 'house band piano' at rear stage rather than performing as a headliner, and went unrecognized by the press (and most in the audience I imagine). Even Caroll Spinney, Sesame Workshop's own white-haired septuagenarian Muppeteer behind Big Bird and other characters, made an appearance - with Oscar the Grouch helping frame the performance of "Garbage Garbage Garbage", the first number after intermission. (foto: http://tinyurl.com/cax8mr) That was a moving moment for me, given that I will soon be leaving the Workshop after 15 years and returning to Canada. It gave me a sense of pride in my worklife associations here in the US, and an even greater pleasurable optimistic sensation, in that I've found a way in the past to somehow connect my principles in both my working and personal life so many times in the past, I surely will be able to do the same in my new circumstances. I didn't know about CS's participation in advance, so it had quite an impact to see a co-worker sharing the wonderful evening 'with' me. The response to Oscar in the mixed age audience was uniform: a true recognition and affectionate identification with the Muppet, with a wave of audience chatter in reminiscences and pleasurable associations. And it fit the themes of the evening perfectly as well: the environmental concerns that still plague the country, the need to use music to connect children with their capacity for self-awareness and leadership in the community struggles in the future. It was a stroke of genius to have Oscar on the bill. PBS was there filming it. I hope it does air, and soon. With the political content of the music and artist comments, I will be surprised if they don't edit out a great deal of it. Pete constantly urges audience participation. This was no exception. Without prompting, audience members in their hundreds then thousands stood and sang along with familiar opening numbers. Then MC Tim Robbins requested singing, as the greatest tribute to Pete's traditions we could offer. The culmination was the closing number: 19,000 roaring "We Shall Overcome", on their feet, believing in every word, if only as a side effect of the powerful sense of community built over the evening's song. You wouldn't think, from the energy in the room, that we'd been there for over four hours. The ultra-conservative NY Post headline sums it up best : "It's one for the ages". Go to Democracy Now's website for today's retrospective on Pete's career as activist, songwriter and singer. As well as highlights and interviews from the concert. (Especially - view the tape of the spoken tribute Bruce Springsteen offered.... heartfelt, funny and even a little angry. BS's heart and commitment are reasons I remain a fan even when some of his music leaves me wanting.) http://www.democracynow.org/ And see how this was covered by the national press! An 'event' in itself for a formerly blacklisted off-the-charts musician. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/arts/music/05seeg.html?hpw http://tinyurl.com/d3zejc http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2009/05/04/2009-05-04_peter_se egers_music_in_bloom_at_garden_stars_honor_folk_singers_rich_legacy_at_9 .html http://tinyurl.com/dlp8dv http://www.nypost.com/seven/05022009/entertainment/music/turn__turn__turn_90_ 167188.htm http://tinyurl.com/dl5lk7 http://www.nypost.com/seven/05042009/news/regionalnews/its_one_for_the_ages_1 67531.htm http://tinyurl.com/dj49r7 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/04/AR20090504006 62.html http://tinyurl.com/cwg784 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/one-more-honor-for-pete-s_b_195594 .html http://tinyurl.com/cqrwvf http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-menaker/for-petes-sake_b_195433.html?vie w=print http://tinyurl.com/dac6pd http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sns-ap-us-pete-seeger-concert,0,3513977.s tory http://tinyurl.com/ceblba http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-pete-seeger4-2009may04,0,5500 589.story http://tinyurl.com/d5vwbj Some of you in the past have expressed a lack of familiarity with the impact & significance of this American folk artist, so here's a BIO link. You'll be surprised at how many familiar tunes he has authored..... http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/pete-seeger/the-power-of-son g/50/ B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:34:50 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: Will you take me as I am - girls like us Weirdly enough, I am having trouble getting into the Mercer book. I've had it for weeks now, but every time I pick it up, I put it down and reread Sedaris or whatever is on the pile beside my bed. I can't really determine what's rubbing me the wrong way already with this one, so I won't weigh in on it until I finish it, because it would be unfair to criticize it until I finish it - maybe it will turn out to be interesting after all. I know I was annoyed initially with the beginning of the Weller book, but my mind changed quickly on that one. I just want to say here how much I ended up loving Weller's book, and not just because it dealt with both Joni and Carly (who I also love and who I hope one day Bob will learn to like, although I won't hold my breath), but because it put so much of their lives and work into context for me. While so many here will say that they do not care to know about who this song is written about, or who the true inspiration for that song actually is, or even who Joni dated and when and who she was friends with, and so on, well, I really, really want to know that information. I make no bones about it - I am hungry for all of that. I get an even greater appreciation for her work when I find out who a song was about, etc. And call it gossipy, but I am interested in Joni's relationships, and friendships, and feuds, and strengths, and shortcomings. I don't think knowing that a song was written for, I dunno, JT, will take away any of the emotional connection I have with it. The same holds true for other artists - I think they more I know, the greater appreciation I have. For example, although there aren't many Stevie Nicks fans on the list, the more I know about who or what were the inspirations for her songs, the more they affect me personally. For example, I've loved "Gypsy" since day one, but never really gave any meaning to it. Then, of course, I learned it was written about her best friend Robin, who died of leukemia. Fast forward to last summer, and I lost my mother to the same disease. Well, now, hearing the song is almost too emotional for me, because I know Stevie's lived the same experience too, you know what I mean? So the whole experience is richer for me. So anyway, I just had to defend Weller, because as much as there were some quirks in there that annoyed me (especially the constant reiteration of what the 60s and 70s were like from a sociological perspective), the information in there was fantastc. And who KNEW Carole King had such... interesting... marriages..... Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:19:13 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Will you take me as I am - girls like us I'm with you, Rob - and don't get me wrong, I like Carly Simon OK, I had 4-5 of her albums and have about as many CD's - I just don't think she should be mentioned in the same breath as Carole King & Joni Mitchell, although it IS appropriate as a cultural reference as Weller has done, and I still make my claim that if Carly wasn't born into an uber-rich and famous family she might have been an unknown. I do intend to re-read the ENTIRE Weller book this summer and am looking forward to that. I'm on my 2nd read of the Mercer book - the Hejira details were absolutely riveting. My only complaint is that she has a tendency to wander off-subject and stay there for a couple of pages - I find myself saying "OK, I get what you're saying, back to the point". As I've said before regarding Weller, I think there's a real value in writing a biography based on a myriad of interviews with people who have an insight or history with the subject. For instance, if you talk to Chuck Mitchell he gives an entirely different story about certain aspects of his relationship/marriage to Joni. His version may not be totally true, and hers may not be either. Usually the truth is in between the "he said-she said" stuff, and it's human nature to forget all of the details of our past or embellish them to put ourselves in a more favorable light. In the same vein as your Stevie Nicks fixation, XTC is one of my faves and their book "Songs & Stories" gives the details behind EVERY song they released - it was delightful to read and as you say has enhanced what I think about when I hear them now. 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Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews and Emmylou Harris were among 40 musicians who performed at the show in New York, eventually joining Seeger on stage for an extended cover of Woody Guthrie's "This Land Is Your Land." Rodriguez said in a letter posted on a Cuban government-controlled Web site that he sought a visa from the U.S. consulate in Paris while traveling in France, but was told Friday that the request was still in progress. The U.S. Interests Section in Havana declined to comment Monday. Cuban musicians, actors and athletes often complain of seeking permission to travel to the United States only to have American authorities fail to respond in time. "I continue to feel as blockaded and discriminated against as I have under other" U.S. administrations, Rodriguez wrote. Cuban leaders routinely refer to Washington's 47-year-old trade embargo against the island as a "blockade." Seeger is celebrated in Cuba for making the song "Guantanamera" famous around the world when he took a traditional melody by Joseito Fernandez and recorded it with phrases from poetry by Cuban Revolutionary hero Jose Marti. from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:35:53 -0400 From: "Tortorici, Frank" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2009 #138 I agree with all the nice things being said about Dog Eat Dog. After not listening to it for a few years, I played it recently on a car trip and discovered that it hasn't aged badly at all. In fact, after hearing it a few times, my 3-year-old daughter began singing in tones approximating Joni and Thomas Dolby...."Truth......fiction...truth...fiction..."! I can't get that song outta my head now! Frank Tortorici Director, Public and Media Relations The Conference Board (212) 339-0231 f.tortorici@conference-board.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 18:25:10 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: apologies... ...for all the garbage code that showed up on the sent copy of my latest post... A cut'n'paste is to blame. Honest - it didn't look like that when I sent it!!!! Sorry B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:48:33 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Will you take me as I am - girls like us And I find neither Carol King nor Carly Simon as creative challenging and exciting as Bonnie Raitt and Laura Nyro. But JM is a cut above; she's by herself. And so it goes DAVID LAHM **************2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=https:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditRepor tAndScore.aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7 ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:48:51 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Thanks to all . . . . . . who responded to my thoughts and hopes of getting further discussions going on *Will You Take Me* and *Girls*. It's always interesting to hear a variety of opinions, and I'm looking forward to reading more as more people get thru the book(s). Thanks especially to Mags, who made a rather courageous decision, I think, to share her story. I think great books, fiction or nonfiction, often touch us profoundly in ways we may not have considered when we first picked them up. And Robert---another Stevie fan here. I love reading all her thank-yous in the liner notes to her solo albums. I love Fleetwood Mac, too. ;-) Terra NPIMH: The anxiety drumbeat of another fast approaching deadline! Agghh! - -- Some things in life it just gets too late to learn . . . --Bob Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: MattJones Subject: Desperate Plea for Help!! (writing a paper about Joni) I am currently writing a paper on Joni and Rickie Lee Jones and jazz influences (some of you may have seen my previous post). I am in DIRE need of the music to "Dry Cleaner" from Mingus if anyone has it. I thought I would be able to do a transcription using my own ears, but the semester has slipped by and I simply don't have time to do it (and do it well) by Wednesday. If anyone has this music and would not mind scanning it and emailing it to me, I would grrrrrreatly appreciate it. Matt Jones University of Virginia McIntyre Dept of Music PhD Student: Critical and Comparative Studies in Music p.s. If this music does not exist, could someone let me know so I can get started on some kind of transcription early tomorrow. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:48:35 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Will you take me as I am - girls like us - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Procyk" To: Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Will you take me as I am - girls like us > > So anyway, I just had to defend Weller, because as much as there > were > some quirks in there that annoyed me (especially the constant > reiteration > of what the 60s and 70s were like from a sociological perspective), > the > information in there was fantastc. And who KNEW Carole King had > such... > interesting... marriages..... > Ok, ok, so I bought paperback today. New. That's unusual for me because I'm a cheapskate about books (especially paperbacks). Right now I'm regarding it as a guilty pleasure to come but open to the possibility that it will be more than that. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:45:20 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Pete Seeger- 90th birthday concert - links Oops- forgot to add njc to my last post, so here is some Joni content. (This is according to an blogger): When Pete Seeger turned 50, on May 3, 1969, he sent a note to Joni Mitchell, asking her approval for the fourth verse he'd penned to Both Sides Now. It follows the three verses that end with her confessing "I really don't know clouds/love/life at all. To which Seeger adds: Daughter, daughter, don't you know You're not the first to feel just so? So let me say, before I go, It's worth it any way: Some day we all may be surprised, We'll wake, and open up our eyes And then at last, we'll realize The whole world feels this way: We've all been living upside down And turned around, with love unfound Until we turn and face the sun All of us, yes, everyone. This is a recording of Joni and Pete performing the song. I think it is from one of the Newport festivals. The zip contains an MP3 file@192k. (Choose "free" to download). http://tinyurl.com/d5za9o RR ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #121 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe