From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #90 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, April 1 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 090 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Tina Does Joni [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: BBC Radio 4 Desert Island Discs [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Songs with a Gambling Theme ["Mark Scott" ] Re: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme [merk54@aol.com] Re: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme [gerard mclaughlin ] RE: patty smith [anon anon ] Joni vs. Elton & Touring Fiddle ["Laurie Fuhr" ] Re: breaking radio silence [Bob Muller ] Re: breaking radio silence [Corey Blake ] Re: breaking radio silence [Catherine McKay ] Re: breaking radio silence [Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com] Re: Joni vs. Elton & Touring Fiddle ["Mark Scott" ] Re: breaking radio silence [Michael Paz ] SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme ["Marion Leffler" Subject: Re: Tina Does Joni That's gorgeous, Cassy. You certainly are a gift, in my eyes anyway. Mark in Sydney PS Wouldn't it be romantic if you guys saw her live? On 31/03/2009, at 6:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > "The Greatest Gift" which my husband and I consider our song. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:35:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: BBC Radio 4 Desert Island Discs Hi Gordon! Thanks for reporting this. I heard it too, but had not got round to telling our JMDL friends about it yet. I wanted to re-check the rest of his choices first. I know he also picked the Beatles, and then later he picked Joni, followed by Steely Dan and Miles, and I thought: I really wouldn't mind being on a desert island with this guy! (But I still can't remember what his other choices were.) I've also read his book Birdsong recently, after my adventure with Anita in Belgium, looking for her great-uncle's grave in the infamous Flanders Fields. The book is a terrific record of the mizery that was war in those mud fields. My grandfather fought there too, but as a child I thought it was ancient history. Now that I am half a century older, I know that that war, the shrapnel and blood and bones in the soil, is incredibly recent. Thanks to Anita for making me come to that realisation. But back to Joni content. Sebatian Faulks gave a nice explanation of why he chose a Joni record. He said that she had made her own personal experiences into song material, and that it had very much resonated with him. Sorry my memory isn't sharper, but I was listening while doing something else, and I hope to hear the programme again properly on Friday morning. Anyone else who wants to hear it: it's on BBC Radio 4, this Friday 3 April at 9am UK time. Here is the link to the programme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qnmr People who can't get radio 4 may be able to listen live on their computer. All the best, Lieve in London - ---------- Gordon MacKie wrote: Greetings Sebastian Faulks the writer, ( Birdsong is his best known novel) chose Joni's "Help Me' as one of his desert island selections. He also chose Steely Dan and Miles Davis amongst others. Gordon ( in wet and windy Glasgow) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:57:57 +0100 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Re: Tina Does Joni Sorry this is non joni content but in relation to Tina Arena's recent cover of BSN. To get further appreciation of this womans vocal excellence check out Tina and Donna Summer non You Tube singing Enough is Enough. Its Fantastic!! On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > That's gorgeous, Cassy. You certainly are a gift, in my eyes anyway. > > Mark in Sydney > > PS Wouldn't it be romantic if you guys saw her live? > > On 31/03/2009, at 6:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > > "The Greatest Gift" which my husband and I consider our song. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:43:40 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Songs with a Gambling Theme - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Leffler" To: "'Cassy'" ; "'Catherine McKay'" ; "'Joni List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme > Leonard Cohen, The Stranger song:"It's true that all the men you > knew were > dealers who said they were through with dealing every time you gave > them > shelter. I know that kind of man, it's hard to hold the hand of > anyone who > is reaching for the sky just to surrender. And then sweeping up the > jokers > that he left behind, you find he did not leave you very much, not > even > laughter. Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so > high and > wild, he'll never have to deal another." > Does that count? > Marion I would say so. It's the other song I thought of after I posted last night. "He was just some Joseph looking for a manger..." Thanks for bringing that one up, Marion. A great song and used to great effect in Robert Altman's movie 'McCabe and Mrs. Miller'. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:22:39 -0400 From: merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme Um - how about Dry Cleaner from Des Moines! Jack - -----Original Message----- From: Marion Leffler To: 'Cassy' ; 'Catherine McKay' ; 'Joni List' Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 1:32 am Subject: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme Leonard Cohen, The Stranger song:"It's true that all the men you knew were dealers who said they were through with dealing every time you gave them shelter. I know that kind of man, it's hard to hold the hand of anyone who is reaching for the sky just to surrender. And then sweeping up the jokers that he left behind, you find he did not leave you very much, not even laughter. Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so high and wild, he'll never have to deal another." Does that count? Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Cassy Skickat: den 30 mars 2009 21:13 Till: Catherine McKay; Joni List Dmne: Songs with a Gambling Theme From: "Catherine McKay" <<< "You're a rambler and a gambler and a sweet-talking ladies' man." JM. >>> And there's: "Tar baby and the Great White Wonder Talking over a glass of rum Burning on the inside With the knowledge of things to come There's gambling out on the terrace And midnight ramblin' on the lawn As they lead toward temptation With dreamland coming on." ~ Joni Mitchell ~ It's interesting to thing about songs with a gambling theme. One of my personal favorites is Stephen Still's "Black Queen" *the 'courtesy of Jose Cuervo' version. Another of my favorites is Little Feat's "High Rollers", I absolutely love the guitar licks in that song. I also think the Talking Heads "Girlfriend is Better" song is about gambling addiction. I could be wrong but I still really like the song. Any others? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:31:51 +0100 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Re: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme He was playing on the horses. He was playing on the guitar strings. He was playing like a devil wearing wings. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, wrote: > Um - how about Dry Cleaner from Des Moines! > > Jack > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marion Leffler > To: 'Cassy' ; 'Catherine McKay' < > anima_rising@yahoo.ca>; 'Joni List' > Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 1:32 am > Subject: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme > > > > Leonard Cohen, The Stranger song:"It's true that all the men you knew were > dealers who said they were through with dealing every time you gave them > shelter. I know that kind of man, it's hard to hold the hand of anyone who > is reaching for the sky just to surrender. And then sweeping up the jokers > that he left behind, you find he did not leave you very much, not even > laughter. Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so high and > wild, he'll never have to deal another." > Does that count? > Marion > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Cassy > Skickat: den 30 mars 2009 21:13 > Till: Catherine McKay; Joni List > Dmne: Songs with a Gambling Theme > > From: "Catherine McKay" > > <<< "You're a rambler and a gambler and a sweet-talking ladies' man." JM. > >>> > > And there's: > > "Tar baby and the Great White Wonder > Talking over a glass of rum > Burning on the inside > With the knowledge of things to come > There's gambling out on the terrace > And midnight ramblin' on the lawn > As they lead toward temptation > With dreamland coming on." > > ~ Joni Mitchell ~ > > It's interesting to thing about songs with a gambling theme. One of my > personal favorites is Stephen Still's "Black Queen" *the 'courtesy of Jose > Cuervo' version. > > Another of my favorites is Little Feat's "High Rollers", I absolutely love > the guitar licks in that song. > > I also think the Talking Heads "Girlfriend is Better" song is about > gambling > > addiction. I could be wrong but I still really like the song. > > Any others? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:54:53 -0400 From: anon anon Subject: Patti Smith's opinion of Joni I found it... Patti Smith said in an interview that Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan and Van Morrison are "extremly inspirational" veterans of rock music... _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_ WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:57:38 -0400 From: anon anon Subject: RE: patty smith Patti sais in an interview that Joni, Van Morrison and Bob Dylan are "extremly inspirational"... > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:24:06 +0100 > Subject: Re: patty smith > From: mcdermottgl@gmail.com > To: icnh@hotmail.com > CC: joni@smoe.org > > Hi, > What's the book? Joni and Patti are at the top for me, musically. > > I have never come across either of them referring to the other. > > Patti Smith has often commented that she strongly dislikes Paul Simon > (despite a great cover of Boy in the Bubble on Twelve) and "that kind > of folky music". I wonder if she would class Joni in that same > category. Dylan is one of Patti's great heroes and she seems to have > a fondness for Neil Young too. > > As for Joni's opinion on Patti Smith, no idea, but i'd guess she would > not have been too fond of her if she was aware of her work. > GARRET (aching and tired having moved house and been unpacking since > Friday night) > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:05 AM, anon anon wrote: > > hi im reading an interesting book about patti smith and wondering what joni thought of patti as an artist... > > _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 5C0701A ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:45:57 -0600 From: "Laurie Fuhr" Subject: Joni vs. Elton & Touring Fiddle Hi Jonis, Well, Joni came and went from Calgary during The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet at the end of February. I was hoping to see her again, but she didn't come into the office, and I didn't want to push it - when I met her at Banff it was awesome. Also my bosses made concessions for me last time that allowed me to travel to Banff, so I thought if I were to start asking around about going backstage or to the VIP party again this time they might not appreciate it. I did send a courier to her hotel room for Jean (our Artistic Director) at one point, and was tempted to send her one of the magazines I put together (Filling Station), but again I figured I'd be taking advantage... anyway, it's kind of sad that Fiddle is over. No more anticipation of potential Joni drop-in visits... phoo. BUT! Yesterday, I did get a bit of new info about a Fiddle Tour. It's not going to be to the scale we were hoping, but it looks like it will happen. There will be a short tour of B.C. (Vernon, Nanaimo, Victoria) in the first week of April 2010. In August 2010, they're going to Eastern Canada (Well they're talking about Montreal & Ottawa anyway), and 3 dates on the West Coast of the U.S. (Seattle, Irvine, L.A.). There will be more info as it becomes available on http://www.albertaballet.com/performances/touring/108 So that's pretty exciting!! Huge thanks to those who may have purchased Fiddle merch so far or have gotten in touch with theatres about touring Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet. I'm not sure if this had a ton of direct impact on decisions made by host theatres, or (in the case of merch) our financial ability to take it on tour, but it certainly served as moral support for our tour booker / Director of Production, Harry, as he tried to get us in here there and everywhere! (I was giving him regular updates about kind words from interested folk on JMDL for the past couple of months). Meanwhile, our 09/10 Season has been announced. Here's where Elton comes in. Several months ago, Elton saw Joni's ballet and was transfixed. He was in Calgary to do a show and in last-minute fashion invited members of our artist roster and the Artistic Director, Jean Grand-Maitre, to go backstage at his show and meet him. A few months later, there were a couple of meetings between Jean and Elton in New York, and Elton (who had a cold and was hanging out in his jammies) agreed to an Elton ballet. He's not going to have nearly as much to do with the ballet as Joni did, no help with choreography and no Elton visual art. But he is going to inform the costume choices (of course!). It's actually going to be a bit dark, and go into his battle with depression and suicide. No idea how the public will take this! I'm sure they'll expect it to be full of happy rocketmen and tiny dancers. And what if Elton sees it and decides he doesn't like it and tells us we can't do it! Yikes. Meanwhile, rumour round the office has it that Joni's not thrilled we're doing a ballet with Elton too. I think Jean will do a classy job of it though and renew her faith. Kind of wish it was a Leonard Cohen ballet instead :-) He's my other guru. Only a couple weeks left til I visit Vancouver for the first time and see your secret grampa and mine, Leonard Cohen. Live in London is out I think, got to get my hands on it.. anyway, any B.C. Jonis going to see Leonard this month? Would be sweet to meet up after the show! I could bring you Joni posters maybe. Laurie Laurie Fuhr | Administrative Assistant | ALBERTA BALLET | p: 403.245.4222 ext 521 | f: 403.245.6573 | laurief@albertaballet.com | www.albertaballet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:57:40 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: breaking radio silence Popping up to share a nice coincidence>>>> I advance-ordered Michelle Mercer's Blue period book ('Will You Take Me as I am?') I think n January, as soon as I heard about it. Rewind forever, as I spend years collecting the song folios, even kicking myself for not buying the 80's stuff, but assembling a pretty complete library. (these are becoming very hard-to-get by accident, and in some cases, only in spending LOTS of cash for Blue, LOTC, DJRS, Hejira...what I'd consider big bucks -- $80 and up. I had some of these folios from the old-endays, but I never had a copy of Blue. This search went on for a couple of year, probably, since I saw one given away in a Full Moon Jonifest raffle, and I almost killed the lucky winner (Les?) A few weeks ago I saw one listed at a used book site, among the $80-90 "Blue' copies, there was one from Powells listed at $20, in 'good' condition. We'll see! Bought it. FF to today. Home from work, two packages on the porch. A larger one from Powell's. Must be 'Blue' I open this one and it's really in very good shape! At $20, I was expecting tatters and teething marks. Oh hippy day! (Great bonus pics I had never seen, She at the house and land in B.C.) OK, on to the next package, which I fully expect to be 'Columbus in America' by William Least Heat-Moon. Wait ! It's kind of a bluish color....it;s...it's... the long awaited, and almost out of mind 'Will you Take Me....' Someone once rephrased William Burrough's famous line about 'There are no coincidences' to further clarify: 'It's just that sometimes the pattern is more obvious'. Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: breaking radio silence Very cool, Chuck! I got my hardcover Mercer book yesterday, and The Fiddle And The Drum DVD today - and of course covers come in almost daily. Did I say covers? And tomorrow is April 1st? Better get busy! Bob NP: Gomez, "Natural Reaction" (love these guys, this is off their new one out today) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:52 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: breaking radio silence Hi Chuck, Please forgive my ignorance. What is a folio? Regardless, congratulations! - -Corey On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Chuck Eisenhardt < c.eisenhardt@earthlink.net> wrote: > Popping up to share a nice coincidence>>>> > > I advance-ordered Michelle Mercer's Blue period book ('Will You > Take Me as I am?') I think n January, as soon as I heard about it. > > Rewind forever, as I spend years collecting the song folios, > even kicking myself for not buying the 80's stuff, but assembling > a pretty complete library. (these are becoming very hard-to-get > by accident, and in some cases, only in spending LOTS of cash > for Blue, LOTC, DJRS, Hejira...what I'd consider big bucks -- > $80 and up. I had some of these folios from the old-endays, but I > never had a copy of Blue. > > This search went on for a couple of year, probably, since I saw > one given away in a Full Moon Jonifest raffle, and I almost killed > the lucky winner (Les?) > > A few weeks ago I saw one listed at a used book site, among the $80-90 > "Blue' copies, there was one from Powells listed at $20, in 'good' > condition. We'll see! Bought it. > > FF to today. Home from work, two packages on the porch. A > larger one from Powell's. Must be 'Blue' I open this one and it's > really in very good shape! At $20, I was expecting tatters and > teething marks. Oh hippy day! (Great bonus pics I had never seen, > She at the house and land in B.C.) > > OK, on to the next package, which I fully expect to be 'Columbus > in America' by William Least Heat-Moon. Wait ! It's kind of a > bluish color....it;s...it's... the long awaited, and almost out of mind > 'Will you Take Me....' > > Someone once rephrased William Burrough's famous line about > 'There are no coincidences' to further clarify: 'It's just that sometimes > the pattern is more obvious'. > > Chuck > - -- http://www.CoreyBlake.com - a whole lot of me Newest video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suYs8fB5hjQ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:22:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: breaking radio silence Hey! I got my Mercer today and my Fiddle and Drum DVD last week! Congratulations, Chuck. I wish I had bought them all back then, too. - --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Bob Muller wrote: > Very cool, Chuck! I got my hardcover > Mercer book yesterday, and The Fiddle And The Drum DVD today > - and of course covers come in almost daily. Did I say > covers? And tomorrow is April 1st? Better get busy! > > Bob __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:48:48 -0400 From: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Subject: Re: breaking radio silence Well, very happy for you Chuck! I was thrilled on the wknd to find Don Juan's Reckless Daughter on vinyl, all 4 sides for $10.95 (mint!) @ Sonic Boom on Bloor St- know this one Catherine? only one scratch- man, what a difference vinyl makes, and it sure is nice to see so much new, as well as older things, being released on vinyl. so what the heck is a folio, anyway, Chuck? best Stephen in Toronto NP: Bon Iver- For Emma, Forever Ago just discovered this one on the weekend and he is brilliant! Elliot Smith and Nick Drake alive in the modern age Hey! I got my Mercer today and my Fiddle and Drum DVD last week! Congratulations, Chuck. I wish I had bought them all back then, too. - --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Bob Muller wrote: > Very cool, Chuck! I got my hardcover > Mercer book yesterday, and The Fiddle And The Drum DVD today > - and of course covers come in almost daily. Did I say > covers? And tomorrow is April 1st? Better get busy! > > Bob This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. We thank you for notifying us immediately. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:00:51 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Joni vs. Elton & Touring Fiddle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Fuhr" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: Joni vs. Elton & Touring Fiddle > Hi Jonis, > 3 dates on the West Coast of the U.S. (Seattle, YES! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:53:44 -0400 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: breaking radio silence Songbooks folks. On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com wrote: Well, very happy for you Chuck! I was thrilled on the wknd to find Don Juan's Reckless Daughter on vinyl, all 4 sides for $10.95 (mint!) @ Sonic Boom on Bloor St- know this one Catherine? only one scratch- man, what a difference vinyl makes, and it sure is nice to see so much new, as well as older things, being released on vinyl. so what the heck is a folio, anyway, Chuck? best Stephen in Toronto NP: Bon Iver- For Emma, Forever Ago just discovered this one on the weekend and he is brilliant! Elliot Smith and Nick Drake alive in the modern age Hey! I got my Mercer today and my Fiddle and Drum DVD last week! Congratulations, Chuck. I wish I had bought them all back then, too. - --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Bob Muller wrote: > Very cool, Chuck! I got my hardcover > Mercer book yesterday, and The Fiddle And The Drum DVD today > - and of course covers come in almost daily. Did I say > covers? And tomorrow is April 1st? Better get busy! > > Bob This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. We thank you for notifying us immediately. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:18:12 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme And what a great movie that was! I loved it. There were several songs of Cohen's, I don't remember them all right now, but another one was The Sisters of Mercy. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Mark Scott Skickat: den 31 mars 2009 14:44 Till: Marion Leffler; 'Cassy'; 'Catherine McKay'; 'Joni List' Dmne: Re: Songs with a Gambling Theme - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Leffler" To: "'Cassy'" ; "'Catherine McKay'" ; "'Joni List'" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: SV: Songs with a Gambling Theme > Leonard Cohen, The Stranger song:"It's true that all the men you > knew were > dealers who said they were through with dealing every time you gave > them > shelter. I know that kind of man, it's hard to hold the hand of > anyone who > is reaching for the sky just to surrender. And then sweeping up the > jokers > that he left behind, you find he did not leave you very much, not > even > laughter. Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so > high and > wild, he'll never have to deal another." > Does that count? > Marion I would say so. It's the other song I thought of after I posted last night. "He was just some Joseph looking for a manger..." Thanks for bringing that one up, Marion. A great song and used to great effect in Robert Altman's movie 'McCabe and Mrs. Miller'. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #90 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe