From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #68 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, March 11 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 068 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re;JoniMitchell.com wants you ["Anita Tedder" ] JoniMitchell.com first impressions [Laura Stanley ] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you [Mags ] Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy [Mags] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you [Michael Paz ] Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy [Cath] Re: jonimitchell.com wants you [Bryan ] Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy [Mag] Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy [Mag] JoniMitchell.com wants you [Marianne Rizzo ] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you [Corey Blake ] Re: Message from website ["Randy Remote" ] RE: jonimitchell.com wants you ["hell" ] RE: jonimitchell.com wants you [Catherine McKay ] RE: jonimitchell.com wants you [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: jonimitchell.com wants you ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy [Cathe] Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy [T Pec] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you ["Bill Pearson" ] Re: jonimitchell.com wants you [Garret ] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you [Catherine McKay ] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you ["Randy Remote" ] Barbie, beauty, a mask & Joni [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you [Michael Flaherty ] Joni in the New Yorker [djp@djpnet.net] Re: Barbie, beauty, a mask & Joni [Mags ] Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you [T Peckham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:33:07 -0000 From: "Anita Tedder" Subject: Re;JoniMitchell.com wants you Les, I so much prefer the design and feel of this new site. It's a bit of a triumph, I'd say. Heartiest congratulations to everyone involved. Anita _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1379 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you Les, I've just had a very quick look around and it is absolutely beautiful - in fact, it brought tears to my eyes (I can be a complete suck sometimes). Congratulations. I've always thought that both jonimitchell.com and jmdl.com were so much better than any other fan sites, and maybe I'm just biased, but this is absolutely fantastic! Now I understand your request for liner notes (and I owe you for the complete Geffen set. Um. I'll be right on that...) - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Les Irvin wrote: Joniphiles - Hey! The latest revision of JoniMitchell.com is ready for you to look at. Since it's such a major revision, I'm opening it up only to the JMDL for the first week or two. You can help me get the bugs out of it before it's unleashed live onto the rest of the planet. [...] PS - oh yeah. http://JoniMitchell.com/2009 __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:22:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: JoniMitchell.com first impressions Les, WOW!!! BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!! I love the color and the photos of Joni right up front!!!! The personal nature of her autograph is GREAT!!! Going to explore now... Love, Dr. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:48:19 +0000 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com first impressions Les. Its a triumph! Thanks to all involved and congratulations! On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Laura Stanley wrote: > Les, > > WOW!!! BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!! > > I love the color and the photos of Joni right up front!!!! > > The personal nature of her autograph is GREAT!!! Going to explore now... > > Love, > Dr. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:59:16 +0000 From: vincenzo mancini Subject: Blue Motel Room and Refuge of the Roads, now DED Well Dave, I am not a specialist and yet could certainly agree as to the VG8 sound, even though I would limit my distaste to TTT (was she still learning to use it?) whereas I can really appreciate the sound selected for PWWAM, from the solo on BYT to anything else with the full ensemble... As to DED, it could be only me... yet, I think the drum machines and the whole sound have still an appeal and are not dated at all since they successfully express, through an exquisite and fine marriage of music with words, the rage she felt at that time, (not that she has meanwhile stopped..., for our luck...) and THAT swooping of the voice, gorgeous as it can be! I cannot find DED rejecting at all... and to see it at discount prices (seen yesterday at 4 euros!) while "18 bucks go up in smoke" for the latest "formula music", well... it makes me... angry! My 2 cents... Vincenzo Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:38:59 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Blue Motel Room and Refuge of the Roads ... The digitally processed sound of the VG8 doesn't wear well, like the drum machine on DED and the ear keeps rejecting it as unnatural whereas the old analog sounds were earthier and more caressing to the ear. I think it was more a marriage of convenience for Joni who could for once not be dealing with retuning on stage. _________________________________________________________________ Drag n dropGet easy photo sharing with Windows Live Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:04:52 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you Les, a fine job as always - I also thought it was great before, and before that in fact. Love the sound clips, a nice addition. I'd still love to see a proper discography listed here, including singles, EP's etc. This info has been sorely lacking for a long time and its absence stands out like a sore thumb regarding an artist of Joni's stature. Of course I spent a lot of time checking out the Covers section, or as it's called now "Songs recorded by others"...I notice that it's no longer searchable by Volume. That was of great help to me but I'm probably the only person on the planet who used it. My life will go on in its absence. I have spent a LOT of time however researching labels, catalog #'s and misc information about these recordings and none of that appears to be accessible. Is that temporary or do you plan to bring that data into the new site? And I have to say that I was a little sad to see Bob's project "Joni In Fiction" is gone... But the bottom line is, I think it's great and lots of thanks to you and everyone who contributed. Change is good. Bob NP: Red House Painters, "Rollercoaster" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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The info by year works fine. I leave on tour on Thursday so I will have lots of computer face time alone in a hotel room and I plan on doing lots of exploring. Thanks again for all you do. Best Paz On Mar 10, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Les Irvin wrote: Joniphiles - Hey! The latest revision of JoniMitchell.com is ready for you to look at. Since it's such a major revision, I'm opening it up only to the JMDL for the first week or two. You can help me get the bugs out of it before it's unleashed live onto the rest of the planet. The new site is all about interactivity and getting you involved: - - Nearly every section has a comment area, where you can tell us how you feel. - - Simon's amazing Chronology section now allows you to add your concert memories and upload photos, concert tickets, and other memorabilia. - - The old song/album poll system has given way to a 1-10 rating system that's quick, easy, and very satisfying I must say. - - Album and Lyric sections have been expanded so that relevant information is at your fingertips - music transcriptions, footnotes, album notes, etc. - - The Library has been expanded to include books, DVDs, and photographs as well as the articles. - - Links to purchase Joni things abound, helping support the site in the process. We've even got links for you Canadian and English types. - - And. you can listen to sound clips of all of Joni's songs. It's important to register to get the most out of the new site. It's quick and free (and it's a new database so your old registration won't work, sorry). My hope is that you will go crazy commenting and uploading and breathing life into the new site. And, please help me make the site better in the next couple of weeks by keeping me informed of any problems you encounter. I'm always open to comments and constructive criticism as well. Enjoy! Les PS - oh yeah. http://JoniMitchell.com/2009 Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you Les, as you know, I had a similar reaction as Catherine, to the new site. It's beautiful, classy and wonderful work all round. Kudos and then some! love, Mags - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you To: joni@smoe.org, "Les Irvin" Received: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 7:58 AM Les, I've just had a very quick look around and it is absolutely beautiful - in fact, it brought tears to my eyes (I can be a complete suck sometimes).. Congratulations. I've always thought that both jonimitchell.com and jmdl.com were so much better than any other fan sites, and maybe I'm just biased, but this is absolutely fantastic! Now I understand your request for liner notes (and I owe you for the complete Geffen set. Um. I'll be right on that...) - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Les Irvin wrote: Joniphiles - Hey! The latest revision of JoniMitchell.com is ready for you to look at.. Since it's such a major revision, I'm opening it up only to the JMDL for the first week or two. You can help me get the bugs out of it before it's unleashed live onto the rest of the planet. [...] PS - oh yeah. http://JoniMitchell.com/2009 __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:45:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy Terra, I know that some of us have shared a similar concern about Willy, Thanks for your courage in raising your concerns. You are not alone. Willy, I dont understand your posts, , not in the slightest. Im feeling pretty uncomfortable in fact, and I know Im not the only one. And I can ask you what you mean by cold cuts? These days, Im all about clarifying things, rather than sit back and wonder and feel confused. Mags - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, T Peckham wrote: From: T Peckham Subject: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads To: "JMDL" Received: Monday, March 9, 2009, 9:22 PM (Sorry, meant to CC this to the list as well). Hey Willie, Do you perhaps have a mental disorder for which you've been prescribed life-saving meds? If so, are you not taking your meds? I have Major Depressive Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and I've learned the hard way that my brain chemistry requires that I take an antidepressant in order to function. As far as I'm concerned, it's the same as having to take a drug for a heart condition one was born with, or for asthma brought on by man-made environmental problems, for instance. If you're truly having delusional thoughts about Joni Mitchell and haven't been diagnosed, I urge you to seek professional help. If, on the other hand, these are just spam nuisance msgs., I am one who'd prefer not to see them here. (In which case, I can simply block you). In either case, I wish you the best with your struggle. T On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Willie Yanock wrote: > Dear Laura S. I know now why I love to her from you. You only got two > responses from your post and both were cold and technical. Cold cuts? > Before I > make a statement I would like to refer first to "Black Crow" granted Joni > feels like a black crow but what did she see that was so shining? I would > love > to asked her why does she feel so weary and lost? Are you haunted, > desperate, > sad? As for "Blue Hotel Room" I feel comforted in her predicament. "Will > you > still love me when I get back to town" not if her little lover boys follow > her > that's for sure. I don't think she ever made it back to town.. It takes two > to > start a cold war. As for "Refuge of the Roads" I would like to ask her what > makes her think that most people got nervous what she saw in the refuge of > the > roads? No one cares. Running like a white ass deer, are you still running? > Thank God she never laid down the highway. Shine down on your witness? A > witness TESTIFIES. Do you mead witness or > Witness? The nets were never overflowing in the gulf of Mexico they are > old > and brittle now, empty and hopeless. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:48:22 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you I meant to say the the Covers section is really cool and I like the format. On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Michael Paz wrote: Hi Les What a remarkable job you have done and continue to do. The most outstanding artist site on the web! Joni is a lucky girl to have you. I spent about an hour on the site this am. You probably know this already but on the Chronology page you get an error when you click "View the Complete Chronology" as well as "View Tour Info". The info by year works fine. I leave on tour on Thursday so I will have lots of computer face time alone in a hotel room and I plan on doing lots of exploring. Thanks again for all you do. Best Paz On Mar 10, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Les Irvin wrote: Joniphiles - Hey! The latest revision of JoniMitchell.com is ready for you to look at. Since it's such a major revision, I'm opening it up only to the JMDL for the first week or two. You can help me get the bugs out of it before it's unleashed live onto the rest of the planet. The new site is all about interactivity and getting you involved: - - Nearly every section has a comment area, where you can tell us how you feel. - - Simon's amazing Chronology section now allows you to add your concert memories and upload photos, concert tickets, and other memorabilia. - - The old song/album poll system has given way to a 1-10 rating system that's quick, easy, and very satisfying I must say. - - Album and Lyric sections have been expanded so that relevant information is at your fingertips - music transcriptions, footnotes, album notes, etc. - - The Library has been expanded to include books, DVDs, and photographs as well as the articles. - - Links to purchase Joni things abound, helping support the site in the process. We've even got links for you Canadian and English types. - - And. you can listen to sound clips of all of Joni's songs. It's important to register to get the most out of the new site. It's quick and free (and it's a new database so your old registration won't work, sorry). My hope is that you will go crazy commenting and uploading and breathing life into the new site. And, please help me make the site better in the next couple of weeks by keeping me informed of any problems you encounter. I'm always open to comments and constructive criticism as well. Enjoy! Les PS - oh yeah. http://JoniMitchell.com/2009 Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy I too am mystified by what Willie's posts are supposed to mean and while I am by no means a psychologist, I have had some dealings with people who are undergoing psychotic episodes, both at my workplace and among family and friends. There is much about the contents of Willie's post that suggest that something is not quite right. What Willie is saying in his posts is semantically and grammatically correct for the most part, but makes no sense. I would be happy to hear a straightforward explanation as well but, without that, the feeling I have from reading them is actually pretty creepy and sounds borderline stalkerish to me. I think Terra has been very brave to put herself out there as she did. On a completely foolish note, I'm not all that fond of cold cuts to begin with, and don't really trust them, with all the listeria scares we've had in this country in the last few months. - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Mags wrote: Terra, I know that some of us have shared a similar concern about Willy, Thanks for your courage in raising your concerns. You are not alone. Willy, I dont understand your posts, , not in the slightest. Im feeling pretty uncomfortable in fact, and I know Im not the only one. And I can ask you what you mean by cold cuts? These days, Im all about clarifying things, rather than sit back and wonder and feel confused. Mags - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, T Peckham wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Willie Yanock wrote: > Dear Laura S. I know now why I love to her from you. You only got two > responses from your post and both were cold and technical. Cold cuts? > Before I > make a statement I would like to refer first to "Black Crow" granted Joni > feels like a black crow but what did she see that was so shining? I would > love > to asked her why does she feel so weary and lost? Are you haunted, > desperate, > sad? As for "Blue Hotel Room" I feel comforted in her predicament. "Will > you > still love me when I get back to town" not if her little lover boys follow > her > that's for sure. I don't think she ever made it back to town.. It takes two > to > start a cold war. As for "Refuge of the Roads" I would like to ask her what > makes her think that most people got nervous what she saw in the refuge of > the > roads? No one cares. Running like a white ass deer, are you still running? > Thank God she never laid down the highway. Shine down on your witness? A > witness TESTIFIES. Do you mead witness or > Witness? The nets were never overflowing in the gulf of Mexico they are > old > and brittle now, empty and hopeless. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Subject: Re: jonimitchell.com wants you It's beautiful. Blue, but not "icy" or cold. Will there be music (ie, music one can hear as soon as the site is opened??. Audible music has always been the obvious missing content on Joni's sites. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy Cat, you express things much more eloquently that I can, especially on this day where my brain feels like a mass of cotton head. Might be the -38C with windchill, dunno ;-P Anyway, I agree, Willy's posts do sound a bit stalkerish and that is exactly what concerns me too. As for the cold cuts, yea, I dont trust em either. They are scary and awful! Mags - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy To: "JMDL" , "T Peckham" , "Mags" Received: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 12:47 PM I too am mystified by what Willie's posts are supposed to mean and while I am by no means a psychologist, I have had some dealings with people who are undergoing psychotic episodes, both at my workplace and among family and friends. There is much about the contents of Willie's post that suggest that something is not quite right. What Willie is saying in his posts is semantically and grammatically correct for the most part, but makes no sense. I would be happy to hear a straightforward explanation as well but, without that, the feeling I have from reading them is actually pretty creepy and sounds borderline stalkerish to me. I think Terra has been very brave to put herself out there as she did. On a completely foolish note, I'm not all that fond of cold cuts to begin with, and don't really trust them, with all the listeria scares we've had in this country in the last few months. - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Mags wrote: Terra, I know that some of us have shared a similar concern about Willy, Thanks for your courage in raising your concerns. You are not alone. Willy, I dont understand your posts, , not in the slightest. Im feeling pretty uncomfortable in fact, and I know Im not the only one. And I can ask you what you mean by cold cuts? These days, Im all about clarifying things, rather than sit back and wonder and feel confused. Mags - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, T Peckham wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Willie Yanock wrote: > Dear Laura S. I know now why I love to her from you. You only got two > responses from your post and both were cold and technical. Cold cuts? > Before I > make a statement I would like to refer first to "Black Crow" granted Joni > feels like a black crow but what did she see that was so shining? I would > love > to asked her why does she feel so weary and lost? Are you haunted, > desperate, > sad? As for "Blue Hotel Room" I feel comforted in her predicament. "Will > you > still love me when I get back to town" not if her little lover boys follow > her > that's for sure. I don't think she ever made it back to town.. It takes two > to > start a cold war. As for "Refuge of the Roads" I would like to ask her what > makes her think that most people got nervous what she saw in the refuge of > the > roads? No one cares. Running like a white ass deer, are you still running? > Thank God she never laid down the highway. Shine down on your witness? A > witness TESTIFIES. Do you mead witness or > Witness? The nets were never overflowing in the gulf of Mexico they are > old > and brittle now, empty and hopeless. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy Cat, you express things much more eloquently that I can, especially on this day where my brain feels like a mass of cotton head. Might be the -38C with windchill, dunno ;-P Anyway, I agree, Willy's posts do sound a bit stalkerish and that is exactly what concerns me too. As for the cold cuts, yea, I dont trust em either. They are scary and awful! Mags - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy To: "JMDL" , "T Peckham" , "Mags" Received: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 12:47 PM I too am mystified by what Willie's posts are supposed to mean and while I am by no means a psychologist, I have had some dealings with people who are undergoing psychotic episodes, both at my workplace and among family and friends. There is much about the contents of Willie's post that suggest that something is not quite right. What Willie is saying in his posts is semantically and grammatically correct for the most part, but makes no sense. I would be happy to hear a straightforward explanation as well but, without that, the feeling I have from reading them is actually pretty creepy and sounds borderline stalkerish to me. I think Terra has been very brave to put herself out there as she did. On a completely foolish note, I'm not all that fond of cold cuts to begin with, and don't really trust them, with all the listeria scares we've had in this country in the last few months. - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Mags wrote: Terra, I know that some of us have shared a similar concern about Willy, Thanks for your courage in raising your concerns. You are not alone. Willy, I dont understand your posts, , not in the slightest. Im feeling pretty uncomfortable in fact, and I know Im not the only one. And I can ask you what you mean by cold cuts? These days, Im all about clarifying things, rather than sit back and wonder and feel confused. Mags - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, T Peckham wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Willie Yanock wrote: > Dear Laura S. I know now why I love to her from you. You only got two > responses from your post and both were cold and technical. Cold cuts? > Before I > make a statement I would like to refer first to "Black Crow" granted Joni > feels like a black crow but what did she see that was so shining? I would > love > to asked her why does she feel so weary and lost? Are you haunted, > desperate, > sad? As for "Blue Hotel Room" I feel comforted in her predicament. "Will > you > still love me when I get back to town" not if her little lover boys follow > her > that's for sure. I don't think she ever made it back to town.. It takes two > to > start a cold war. As for "Refuge of the Roads" I would like to ask her what > makes her think that most people got nervous what she saw in the refuge of > the > roads? No one cares. Running like a white ass deer, are you still running? > Thank God she never laid down the highway. Shine down on your witness? A > witness TESTIFIES. Do you mead witness or > Witness? The nets were never overflowing in the gulf of Mexico they are > old > and brittle now, empty and hopeless. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:24:48 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: JoniMitchell.com wants you >Les, I so much prefer the design and feel of this new site. It's a bit of a >triumph, I'd say. Heartiest congratulations to everyone involved. >Anita I agree. Absolutely beautiful work. . beautiful website. . Les, it is great. It feels jUST right. Joni would love it I imagine. I love the colors. it is amazingly, extraordinarily, beautiful. Her pictures are beautiful. thank you to all who worked on it. C o n g r a t u l a t i o n s. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:53:50 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you REALLY nice Les. Extremely profession layout and design. I only have one humble request/suggestion - Is there a way to have a direct link to each news item? That way, if I want to email someone or post on the Troubadour Tribune about an announcement, it's so much easier when there's a direct link to that specific news item/announcement. Otherwise, really love it and will of course be registering. - -Corey On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Michael Paz wrote: > I meant to say the the Covers section is really cool and I like the > format. > > > On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Michael Paz wrote: > > Hi Les > What a remarkable job you have done and continue to do. The most > outstanding artist site on the web! Joni is a lucky girl to have you. > I spent about an hour on the site this am. You probably know this > already but on the Chronology page you get an error when you click > "View the Complete Chronology" as well as "View Tour Info". The info > by year works fine. I leave on tour on Thursday so I will have lots of > computer face time alone in a hotel room and I plan on doing lots of > exploring. Thanks again for all you do. > > Best > > Paz > > On Mar 10, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Les Irvin wrote: > > Joniphiles - > > > > Hey! The latest revision of JoniMitchell.com is ready for you to look > at. > Since it's such a major revision, I'm opening it up only to the JMDL > for the > first week or two. You can help me get the bugs out of it before it's > unleashed live onto the rest of the planet. > > > > The new site is all about interactivity and getting you involved: > > > > - Nearly every section has a comment area, where you can tell us how you > feel. > > - Simon's amazing Chronology section now allows you to add your concert > memories and upload photos, concert tickets, and other memorabilia. > > - The old song/album poll system has given way to a 1-10 rating system > that's quick, easy, and very satisfying I must say. > > - Album and Lyric sections have been expanded so that relevant > information > is at your fingertips - music transcriptions, footnotes, album notes, > etc. > > - The Library has been expanded to include books, DVDs, and > photographs as > well as the articles. > > - Links to purchase Joni things abound, helping support the site in the > process. We've even got links for you Canadian and English types. > > - And. you can listen to sound clips of all of Joni's songs. > > > > It's important to register to get the most out of the new site. It's > quick > and free (and it's a new database so your old registration won't work, > sorry). My hope is that you will go crazy commenting and uploading and > breathing life into the new site. > > > > And, please help me make the site better in the next couple of weeks by > keeping me informed of any problems you encounter. I'm always open to > comments and constructive criticism as well. > > > > Enjoy! > > Les > > > > PS - oh yeah. http://JoniMitchell.com/2009 > > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > - -- http://www.CoreyBlake.com - a whole lot of me Newest video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrlQ9gU-9HU ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:33:44 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Message from website > Can anyone help Bradley? > it is driving me nuts i am try to find out the name of a song it was on a > pbs doc on joni it was at the end. it about was about the life she led and > coming bach to see her siter an nices with a ting of regret please help > me thank you > Name: bradley wieland > email: bhw47@hotmail.com Not sure what this song would be...Joni doesn't have a sister or nieces. Song For Sharon is kind of like that... The doc you saw was no doubt American Masters "Woman of Heart and Mind"- don't let it drive you nuts, you can get it on dvd for $20 with another great concert video "Painting With Words And Music" from Amazon or elsewhere: http://tinyurl.com/bnkhet or by itself for $12: http://tinyurl.com/b22a8h Netflix has them, too, and a couple of other Joni titles. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:35:15 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: RE: jonimitchell.com wants you Bryan wrote: > It's beautiful. Blue, but not "icy" or cold. Will there be music > (ie, music > one can hear as soon as the site is opened??. Audible music has > always been > the obvious missing content on Joni's sites. I agree, the site is great - and congrats to all involved. But I hope audible music is "not" added to the home page. Those of us with slow internet connections (and yes, we are still out there) would prefer not to wait half an hour for a sound clip to open before being able to access the rest of the site. Hell - in technologically-challenged NZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:50:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: jonimitchell.com wants you Also, those of us who check the internet from work. Heh-heh. (I do have the sound turned OFF on my computer though.) - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, hell wrote: Bryan wrote: > It's beautiful. Blue, but not "icy" or cold. Will there be music > (ie, music > one can hear as soon as the site is opened??. Audible music has > always been > the obvious missing content on Joni's sites. I agree, the site is great - and congrats to all involved. But I hope audible music is "not" added to the home page. Those of us with slow internet connections (and yes, we are still out there) would prefer not to wait half an hour for a sound clip to open before being able to access the rest of the site. Hell - in technologically-challenged NZ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:51:46 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: jonimitchell.com wants you What she said. Besides it slowing down the page loading, it's tricky for those of us who visit the site at work. I'm always playing music in my 3-wall prison/cubicle here, and it always irks me when I go to an artist's website and it starts blaring music, typically MUCH louder than the low volume I had playing. The way you have it set (the tracks are all there if you want to hear them) is perfect. 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I really hate websites that do that! From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Also, those of us who check the internet from work. Heh-heh. (I do have the sound turned OFF on my computer though. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:00:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy Right you are. I agree about ending the stigma. It's an illness like diabetes and must be handled the same way. It's one of those frontiers we need to cross in terms of talking about it the same way. There are treatments, if not cures, for a lot of it. I tend to approach the topic of mental illness with caution because I have a brother-in-law who is bipolar and now one of my nieces may be as well. My sister is reluctant to make this known to people she's not really comfortable with because people DO react with alarm and my brother-in-law once lost a job, probably because of this (but got compensation, because his employers had no idea what they were doing.) And there's a lot of anxiety in my family as well, some panic disorder, plus depression, which we tend to laugh away sometimes (I know how weird that probably sounds but sometimes you just have to laugh.) To me your post sounded straightforward, not sarcastic. As a person who tends to hedge around sensitive issues sometimes, or make jokes about things, I totally appreciate that. - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, T Peckham wrote: Dear Ladies, I'm laughing out loud about the "listeria." I may never look at my favorite deli Butterball Cajun Turkey Breast the same way again . . . :-P Thank you for your kind words, but I must tell you that I'm not being brave at all: I, too, am all about the search for clarity, and as Booker T sez, "Time Is Tight." ;-) I don't have the energy to play games with people and I like to cut to the heart of things, which is why I posed the question, point-blank. I mentioned my own bout with "Mental Illness" because I've done a lot of reading and research on its various forms, causes, and manifestations, in order to help myself but also to understand others. I'm also quite militant about the need (in this country, at least) to do much, much more to erase the stigma around it, and to get true parity in research and treatment dollars. __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:25:08 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: Fwd: Blue Motel Room / Refuge of the Roads now pondering Willy On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > I tend to approach the topic of mental illness with caution . . . And > there's a lot of anxiety in my family as well, some panic disorder, plus > depression, which we tend to laugh away sometimes (I know how weird that > probably sounds but sometimes you just have to laugh.) > "Laughing it all away . . . " :-) There's lots to talk about here, but I really DO have to get going--laughing--sometimes being a freelancer is treacherous! Just wanted to say for now that it doesn't sound weird at all---three things saved my life: Zoloft, my kitties, and my ANGER turned to LAUGHTER. (A very common cycle, that). I always had a good sense of humor, but I've learned to *find* humor in almost everything--sometimes it's the only thing that'll get you thru. Laughing and crying, you know it's the same release . . . :-) > > > > > - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:50:07 -0000 From: "Bill Pearson" Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you So I take it no one has had any trouble registering and getting this when clicking the email link to confirm? Best, Bill The web site you are accessing has experienced an unexpected error. File not found: /login.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:27:30 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: jonimitchell.com wants you I'm with you all there. I'm all for choice and simplicity. The layout is great. The sections are clearly labelled and there is an obvious search function. GARRET On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Les Irvin wrote: > I would never inflict sounds upon someone who didn't want to hear them. I > really hate websites that do that! > > > > From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] > > > > > Also, those of us who check the internet from work. Heh-heh. (I do have > the sound turned OFF on my computer though. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:24:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you Just registered & it worked OK. - --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Bill Pearson wrote: From: Bill Pearson Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you To: joni@smoe.org Received: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 5:50 PM So I take it no one has had any trouble registering and getting this when clicking the email link to confirm? Best, Bill The web site you are accessing has experienced an unexpected error. File not found: /login.cfm __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:45:05 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you Let me add to the chorus of kudos-the new site looks great! I'm a registered Joni junkie. I like the interactive chronology section and look forward to adding some content. RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:25:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Barbie, beauty, a mask & Joni All this talk about Barbie has me thinking about a progarm I saw recently on PBS (although I think it was filmed a little while back). It talked about quantifying beauty. Not inner beauty, of course, but classic physical beauty. I was particularly interested in the work of one researcher who discovered that the golden ratio (1:1.618), which is found throughout nature, including in flowers, relates to our perception of beauty. It seems that the closer to the ratio, the more beautiful something is. (That's a simplification, of course.) So, given the ratio, Barbie is actually grotesque. But I knew that already. The researcher measured various relationships of facial features, and found the golden ratio repeated again and again, regardless of culture, in faces considered beautiful or handsome. More info here: http://www.beautyanalysis.com/index2_mba.htm I wonder how well Joni's facial features fit into the mask. (I suspect her cheekbones are 'perfect', but that her mouth may be a bit bigger than 'perfect' and her jawline perhaps a bit too pronounced.) If I have time, I may try it in Photoshop, just out of curiosity. BTW, I did this with my own face and discovered some very interesting things - some of my least favorite features are 'perfect' while some others - eye placement and size - are not 'perfect.' Does that mean I think you have to fit perfectly into the mask to be beautiful? No. But to be cross-cuturally photogenic, at least in terms of media, the closer you are, the more universally attractive you appear. Just some more food for thought... lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:06:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you I don't have anything to add beyond joining the chorus: great job Les and everyone else involved. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:51:20 -0400 From: djp@djpnet.net Subject: Joni in the New Yorker The current issue of the New Yorker (Mar 16, 2009) has a cartoon by Victoria Roberts on p 105. A middle aged man and woman are seated at, I suppose, a coffee shop. The man is saying to the woman "The only thing that's never going away is Joni Mitchell." I have to confess I just don't get it. djp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:18:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Barbie, beauty, a mask & Joni very interesting stuff there, Anne. Maybe I'll send you my portrait so you can tell me my numbers ;-)) Honey, I think you are beautiful , no matter what ! the notion of beauty, how it is defined changes over time, and it interests me very much to see in the now, all the ads that have women airbrushed so much I dont even recognize who they are. Why are wrinkles something we need be ashamed of to the tune of many dollars spent on creams and such that magically overnight make them go away. Life lines, love lines, laugh lines. I kind of like them actually. But there are parts that I dont...so nevermind! off to bedlam, Mags - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Anne Sandstrom wrote: From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Barbie, beauty, a mask & Joni To: joni@smoe.org Received: Monday, March 9, 2009, 10:25 AM All this talk about Barbie has me thinking about a progarm I saw recently on PBS (although I think it was filmed a little while back). It talked about quantifying beauty. Not inner beauty, of course, but classic physical beauty. I was particularly interested in the work of one researcher who discovered that the golden ratio (1:1.618), which is found throughout nature, including in flowers, relates to our perception of beauty. It seems that the closer to the ratio, the more beautiful something is. (That's a simplification, of course.) So, given the ratio, Barbie is actually grotesque. But I knew that already. The researcher measured various relationships of facial features, and found the golden ratio repeated again and again, regardless of culture, in faces considered beautiful or handsome. More info here: http://www.beautyanalysis.com/index2_mba.htm I wonder how well Joni's facial features fit into the mask. (I suspect her cheekbones are 'perfect', but that her mouth may be a bit bigger than 'perfect' and her jawline perhaps a bit too pronounced.) If I have time, I may try it in Photoshop, just out of curiosity. BTW, I did this with my own face and discovered some very interesting things - some of my least favorite features are 'perfect' while some others - eye placement and size - are not 'perfect.' Does that mean I think you have to fit perfectly into the mask to be beautiful? No. But to be cross-cuturally photogenic, at least in terms of media, the closer you are, the more universally attractive you appear. Just some more food for thought... lots of love, Anne __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:47:38 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com wants you Me too. :-) On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Michael Flaherty wrote: > I don't have anything to add beyond joining the chorus: great job Les and > everyone else involved. > > Michael F. > - -- Alas, the rich are always with us. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #68 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe