From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #17 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, January 19 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 017 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- SV: Hissing ["Marion Leffler" ] RE: Hissing [Mike Pritchard ] RE: Hissing [Laura Stanley ] RE: Hissing [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Hissing [Dflahm@aol.com] last waltz tribute [Mags ] the hissing of summer cicadas [Mags ] Re: Hissing, [Rian Afriadi ] Re: the hissing of summer cicadas ["Mark Scott" ] Re: the hissing of summer cicadas [Mags ] Re: Hissing, ["Mark Scott" ] And the Recipient of the Issa CD shall be ... [Kate Johnson ] CA mini-fest- Northern CAL/SF Bay area [Darice ] Re: Music for the Inaugural will be on Sunday ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: SV: Hissing Fabulous photo, Moni! Thanks for sharing! Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: Moni Kellermann [mailto:kellerfrau@gmx.de] Skickat: den 17 januari 2009 21:30 Till: Marion Leffler; joni@smoe.org Dmne: Re: Hissing Wie Marion Leffler so vortrefflich formulierte: > I have always assumed that the hissing of summer lawns was > caused by sprinklers. I once did a photo with that in mind. http://www.moni-kellermann.de/ms/summerlawns.jpg moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:22:00 +0100 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: RE: Hissing Moni said, "I once did a photo with that in mind". And here's one Garret may recognise... mike np Sun Kil Moon - Tonight in Bilbao [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Dublin 2005 hissing.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: RE: Hissing I thought it was the sound of the humidity coming up out of the grass. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:31:08 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: RE: Hissing Hissing on my mind is not The Hissing of Insects on Summer Lawns. Hissing on my mind is the hissing of the grass itself. I mean, when everything's so still, you can hear the sound of the grass. Rian PS. Moni, awesome photo! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:09:10 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Hissing In the beautiful song "Lazy Afternoon," by John LaTouche & Jerome Moross these lines come at the end of the bridge: "If you hold my hand and we sit real still you can hear the grass as it grows." DAVID LAHM ps it's sprinklers **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:38:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: the hissing of summer cicadas mark in sydney , i enjoyed reading your post about the hissing of summer cicadas. i grew up in the same part of the world as catherine mckay and can relate to both of your posts. the song of the cicada grew into some wild bacchanalian festival as the temps soared. i wonder if this may well be the "hiss" of hissing of summer lawns?. it makes sense, at least to me. whilst there were sprinklers going round the lawns of my childhood, i dont recall this as a hissing sound. i am sure that this has been discussed in the land of deja vu here on the list. perhaps the hissing of summer cicadas didnt work out as well as 'lawns' in a lyrical sort of way. speaking of hissing, i hope the fires of west sydney are under control :-( love, mags. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Hissing, David quoted : "If you hold my hand and we sit real still you can hear the grass as it grows." >>> That's a beautiful coincidence :-). I haven't heard the song. I'll check youtube if they have it. Rian PS. This makes me more sure that hissing means the hissing of the grass, not the insects on the lawns. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:53:39 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas I remember what we (apparently mistakenly) referred to as locusts in the summers when I was growing up in Iowa. Doing a little poking around Google it appears it is really the cicada that I am thinking of. These insects sit in the trees and make a noise that is not so much hissing to me as it is a buzzing sound. We used to find the dried brownish husks of the skin that they shed in their final growth stage clinging to the trees. People also used lawn sprinklers in Iowa. I think the amount or volume of the 'hissing' effect produced depends on the type of sprinkler. But there is always some kind of sound as the water hits the grass that could be called a hiss. Some types of lawn sprinklers make a definite hiss in their working, though. I assume sprinklers are much more prominent in the residential parts of LA where there is less rainfall than where I grew up. Anyway, I think it was the sprinklers that Joni referred to as the hissing of summer lawns. As the cover of the record illustrates, however, I think metaphorically and thematically, this could be a reference to snakes as well (there's a poppy snake in the dressing room). Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mags" To: ; "Catherine McKay" ; "joni" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:38 AM Subject: the hissing of summer cicadas > mark in sydney , > > i enjoyed reading your post about the hissing of summer cicadas. i > grew up in > the same part of the world as catherine mckay and can relate to both > of your > posts. > > the song of the cicada grew into some wild bacchanalian festival as > the temps > soared. i wonder if this may well be the "hiss" of hissing of summer > lawns?. > it makes sense, at least to me. whilst there were sprinklers going > round the > lawns of my childhood, i dont recall this as a hissing sound. i am > sure that > this has been discussed in the land of deja vu here on the list. > perhaps the > hissing of summer cicadas didnt work out as well as 'lawns' in a > lyrical sort > of way. > > speaking of hissing, i hope the fires of west sydney are under > control :-( > > love, mags. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:17:25 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas that makes sense mark, the bit about the hissing of the sprinklers/hoses...and the snakes. thanks for clarifying :-) it's an interesting exercise of the senses to express just what a certain sound is in words. mags - --- On Sun, 1/18/09, Mark Scott wrote: From: Mark Scott Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas To: "Mags" , mark-leon@iinet.net.au, "Catherine McKay" , "joni" Received: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 11:53 AM I remember what we (apparently mistakenly) referred to as locusts in the summers when I was growing up in Iowa. Doing a little poking around Google it appears it is really the cicada that I am thinking of. These insects sit in the trees and make a noise that is not so much hissing to me as it is a buzzing sound. We used to find the dried brownish husks of the skin that they shed in their final growth stage clinging to the trees. People also used lawn sprinklers in Iowa. I think the amount or volume of the 'hissing' effect produced depends on the type of sprinkler. But there is always some kind of sound as the water hits the grass that could be called a hiss. Some types of lawn sprinklers make a definite hiss in their working, though. I assume sprinklers are much more prominent in the residential parts of LA where there is less rainfall than where I grew up. Anyway, I think it was the sprinklers that Joni referred to as the hissing of summer lawns. As the cover of the record illustrates, however, I think metaphorically and thematically, this could be a reference to snakes as well (there's a poppy snake in the dressing room). Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mags" To: ; "Catherine McKay" ; "joni" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:38 AM Subject: the hissing of summer cicadas > mark in sydney , > > i enjoyed reading your post about the hissing of summer cicadas. i grew up in > the same part of the world as catherine mckay and can relate to both of your > posts. > > the song of the cicada grew into some wild bacchanalian festival as the temps > soared. i wonder if this may well be the "hiss" of hissing of summer lawns?. > it makes sense, at least to me. whilst there were sprinklers going round the > lawns of my childhood, i dont recall this as a hissing sound. i am sure that > this has been discussed in the land of deja vu here on the list. perhaps the > hissing of summer cicadas didnt work out as well as 'lawns' in a lyrical sort > of way. > > speaking of hissing, i hope the fires of west sydney are under control :-( > > love, mags. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:33:17 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Hissing, - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rian Afriadi" To: ; "jonipeople" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: Re: Hissing, > David quoted : > "If you hold my hand and we sit real still you can hear the grass as > it > grows." > >>>> > > That's a beautiful coincidence :-). I haven't heard the song. I'll > check > youtube if they have it. > Barbra Streisand did a lovely version of it. One of her more restrained vocals. Nice. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:47:43 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: And the Recipient of the Issa CD shall be ... ... Jeannie! (I'd be embarrassed for you all to know that I'm just getting to my computer at this late hour of the morning, as if I slept half the day away ... which I did ... but I'm not the sort to be embarrassed by that. However, when I get up early I feel Noble.) Please make your donation to jonimitchell.com, Jeannie, and send me your mailing address offlist. Thanks for your participation you guys. I'll be letting Issa know how one of the free CDs she sent me was "given" away. Kate du Nord **********Stubblejumpers Cafi ********** http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:39:47 +0000 From: dally mclaughlin Subject: FW:Wondering why my contributions to the jmdl never make the list?? From: dally57@hotmail.co.ukTo: mark-leon@iinet.net.auSubject: RE: A Hissing From The Other Side of The PlanetDate: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:51:08 +0000 Re sending this one to see if it gets in. Hi Mark! While you are Hissing away from the sunny side of the planet I am well into Hejira here in wild wet and windy Scotland.It is tremendously windy tonight and definitely winter. I always thought of hot lawns sprinkled with cold water and the hiss actually coming up out of the grass, almost steamy like some Greek chorus. She walking around the periphery of her self imposed slavery in the hissing heat, sweat running down her neck soaking the pure brilliant white cotton of her strappy summer dress. Miserable in the luxury of it all. Here the rain comes down like boults of bubblerap . No drifts and swirls of lace. Its Glasgow. We do a kinda rougher Hejira here. Its still great though. ENJOY the sunshiny days and warm summer nights and the hissing of summer lawns.Im travelling in some vehicle. Im sitting in some cafe. A defector.... dally. > To: joni@smoe.org> From: mark-leon@iinet.net.au> Subject: A Hissing From The Other Side of The Planet> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:55:46 +1100> > Hello all my Joni-pals.> > Whilst the majority of this list are freezing their collective butts > off, there is a whole half a planet down here in the grips of Summer. > So, naturally, I have turned my attention to Joni's Summer themed > songs. As with most things Joni sings about, her vivid descriptions > of Summer bring melancholic visions of childhood memories of long, > hot Summer days and current images of Summer. As an Australian, I > always related well to phrases like :The hissing of Summer lawns" but > I wonder if my antipodean views match with what Joni had in mind. I > always assumed the "hissing" came from the sound of cicadas which are > usually abundant around the Sydney area and I know, from watching > documentaries that they are plentiful in the northeastern United > States too. They make that hissing sound when they mate in the Summer > months. Then I started to think that maybe Joni was singing about the > sound of water sprinklers, watering the California lawns or maybe it > was something else more esoteric. Crickets also make a hissing sound > in the Summer too.> > It has been a mild Summer here so far, except for a couple of > heatwave days last week and I haven't heard much from the cicadas > this year. Then again, there aren't so many lawns in the city where I > live now. The odd thing is, cicadas don't live in the grass. They > live in trees.> > I know this is not exactly a life defining question but it just got > me wondering. The sound of cicadas was a dominant feature of Summer > for me as a child. The hotter it got, the louder the cicadas got. I > grew up in a very middle class area of Sydney and there weren't the > water restrictions we have these days so, every house had sprinklers > going on their lawns too and they seem to make a hissing sound too.> > I do hope you all had a lovely new year. For those who follow the > Chinese calendar, yours is still to come and for those who follow the > Jewish calendar, it was several months ago. Happy new year to you all.> > Mark in Sydney> > NP To Turn You On - Roxy Music What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find out _________________________________________________________________ Cut through the jargon: find a PC for your needs. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:50:32 -0800 From: Mary Morris Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2009 #19 Dear listers, I apologize for sending my post with too much electronic mish mash attached. Please forgive me, jmdl'ers. I read my posts every day & would not knowingly sent such a post. I love Joni - can you tell by me e-mail address ? And I love it that there is a community of like minded folks, for instance, that quote Joni on a daily basis, or seem to have a lyric of hers that pops into mind for any occasion. Sorry. Perhaps I haven't had enough coffee today. Mary MM _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:10:54 -0500 (EST) From: Darice Subject: CA mini-fest- Northern CAL/SF Bay area Anyone interested is scheduling a mini-fest while Ashara is here? My houseboat in Sausalito is available; I'd love to see you all. Please contact me directly so we can plan this. Darice ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:44:16 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Music for the Inaugural will be on Sunday JT brought Arnold McCullough because he takes "Shower The People" to another level at the live shows. All of U2 was there, not just Bono. Stevie Wonder kicked ass today. On Dish Network, it will be replayed on HBO at 7ET. Don't miss it twice. Jim The Obama Inaugural Celebration concert will take place at 2 p.m. next Sunday in Washington, D.C. The event will be broadcast on HBO from 7-8:30 p.m. that night. HBO will unblock its signal so that anyone with cable, telcos or satellite television will be able to view the show for free, whether they subscribe to HBO or not. Musical performers scheduled for the event include Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, Bono, Garth Brooks, Sheryl Crow, Renee Fleming, Josh Groban, Herbie Hancock, Heather Headley, John Legend, Jennifer Nettles, John Mellencamp, Usher Raymond IV, Shakira, Bruce Springsteen, James Taylor, will.i.am, and Stevie Wonder. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:44:00 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Music for the Inaugural will be on Sunday JT brought along Arnold McCullough because he takes "Shower The People" to another level at the live shows. All of U2 was there, not just Bono. Stevie Wonder kicked ass today. On Dish Network, it will be replayed on HBO at 7ET. Don't miss it twice. Jim The Obama Inaugural Celebration concert will take place at 2 p.m. next Sunday in Washington, D.C. The event will be broadcast on HBO from 7-8:30 p.m. that night. HBO will unblock its signal so that anyone with cable, telcos or satellite television will be able to view the show for free, whether they subscribe to HBO or not. Musical performers scheduled for the event include Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, Bono, Garth Brooks, Sheryl Crow, Renee Fleming, Josh Groban, Herbie Hancock, Heather Headley, John Legend, Jennifer Nettles, John Mellencamp, Usher Raymond IV, Shakira, Bruce Springsteen, James Taylor, will.i.am, and Stevie Wonder. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:26:17 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: the hissing of summer cicadas Hear a sprinkler, right here http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=20207 In the upper left corner of the waveform, click the play button ">". It sounds like the sprinkler is programmed to spray a pattern while turning, then resets to the beginning. It sounds best on headphones. The recording is so clear you can hear a jet passing overhead. Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:45:09 +0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas It's so good that Joni should've looped it and made some sort of backing track to a song out of it. If only she were that experimental and groundbreaking. I wonder why she never did that? It would've turned that album from a jazz album into a bold step into sampling and perhaps brought house music and World Music forward a few years. She would've incorporated the changing rhythms really cleverly as only she could and maybe overlaid it with a moog or something like that. Dontcha think? :P 2009/1/19 Jim L'Hommedieu > Hear a sprinkler, right here > http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=20207 > > In the upper left corner of the waveform, click the play button ">". It > sounds like the sprinkler is programmed to spray a pattern while turning, > then resets to the beginning. It sounds best on headphones. The > recording is so clear you can hear a jet passing overhead. > > Jim L. > - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #17 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe