From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #271 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, December 22 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 271 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: JMDL Digest V2008 #329 [dally mclaughlin ] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) ["Jeff Hankins" ] songs that make me cry [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) ["Mark Scott" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #269 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) [Catherine McKay ] Paula Cole New Album review [Michael Paz ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #270 [StDoherty@aol.com] a Joni mention [Patti Parlette ] Want my VHS copy of "An All-Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell"? ["Steve Petri] Re: songs that make me cry vljc [mia _ ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:33:26 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) Nice thread, Paul. Sadness is the strongest emotion I get from songs. I guess for most people, it is the songs that are linked to a sad occasion that touch the deepest. Here's my top ten songs that can bring me to tears. 1. The Last Time I Saw Richard - Joni Mitchell (I have bared my soul about this one in the past). 2. So Sad The Song - Gladys Knight and The Pips (obvious I know but it has links to a very special Aunt). 3. Two Grey Rooms - Joni Mitchell (ever since I found out the story behind it I relate to it). 4. A New Life - Linda Eder (word for word, expresses how I feel when I am in a deep depression). 5. Willow - Joan Armatrading (an uplifting song really but it reminds me of a time when I needed that willow). 6. Beauty and The Beast - Stevie Nicks ("...there is no beauty without my beast"). 7. Her Town Too - James Taylor (a song of regret). 8. If Leaving Me Is Easy - Phil Collins 9. Stars - Janis Ian (pure, raw honesty). 10. Jesus To a Child - George Michael (about the death of his Brazilian lover). Runners up: 1. Photographs and Memories - Jim Croci. 2. Cactus Tree - Joni Mitchell. 3. Fire and Rain - James Taylor. 4. Love's Recovery - Indigo Girls. 5. When Poets Dreamed of Angels - David Sylvian. 6. Shoot Me Down - Everything But The Girl. 7. Yellow - Coldplay. 8. Witches - Cowboy Junkies. 9. I Specialise In Loneliness - Boy George. 10. All The Love - Kate Bush (something about the succession of people saying goodbye makes me feel very lonely). Mark in Sydney NP Houdini - Kate Bush ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:32:27 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Songs that make me cry (SJC) I like this thread so I will tune in but I cannot possible list all the songs that make me cry, it would be several miles long! (Laughing and crying, you know its the same relief). So Ill just stick to ten of Jonis songs that make my eyes water: A case of you Down to you Sweet bird Both sides now (2000 version) Blue Motel room I had a king Little Green (even before the story was known, the deep sorrow and feeling of loss in that song always made me cry) See you sometime All I want Chinese cafi/Unchained melody And to balance it, here are some of Jonis songs that lift my spirits: Carey Night in the city Chelsea Morning Night Ride home Solid love Twisted Shine One week last summer California In France they kiss on Main Street Marion, happily anticipating the light to return to the Northern hemisphere! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:54:43 +0000 From: dally mclaughlin Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2008 #329 > Its a sad day when the oppressed turn into oppressors. I enjoyed the comments about who is doing what in the Obamma innauguration. Wonderful to see a leader with the courage Obamma is showing.He knows how to encourage change. Some songs that made me cry; Theres one by Laura Nyro about an elephant child stood behind a tree. Anyone know it? Its beautiful and made me cry a few times. Ricky Lee Jones Company used to do it for me too. Bjork Venus as a boy. Iris deMent on a few songs has brought a tear to my eye as have the McGarrigles. Often for me its the voice rather than the song that draws out the emotion in me. Nick Cave can get me sobbing sometimes too. Climb Every Mountain! Aled Jones singing In The Bleak Midwinter brings floods especially when he sings about Heaven being unable to hold Him(God) and His having to come down to us, and the last verse.I just weep. Random Joni. Three Times a Lady, Anne Murray I cried a tear you wiped it dry. Gawd I start to worry myself now. Jennifer Warnes O God of Loveliness. A couple of songs on 49th Paralel KDLang both by Jane Sidburry I think her name is. Anyone know them? Sorry I am not very good at this but I could not resist. I really hope the LGBT community in America show some solidarity with Obamma and cut the crap with any idea of hissing at his innauguration. Time for the hissing to GO quietly methinks.Hissing is meant for summer lawns. > which really crack me up;> > midhelle shocked - the ballad of penny evans, (now released on the revised > all i can take....> > > ron> > - ------------------------------> > :'> *> So this is not the devil being invited to give the invocation, but a> religious leader who has taken steps in the right direction. Warren is not> the enemy. He is a man with whom one can profoundly disagree but yet be> challenged to meet him in his openness - again, he invited Obama into his> church which gave a clear message that Warren had moved past the days of the> religious right versus the rest of us. That Warren invited an abortions> rights pro gay Democrat into his church opened doors. Let us open a door> for him and let the conversation continue as Obama is sworn in as president> of ALL of the people, including those with whom we disagree.> > Reading that NYYimes article I was struck by something else - as a native of> Illinois (Land of Lincoln) I know how much Lincoln has shaped my own beliefs> politically as well as those of Obama. Obama's debt to Lincoln's beliefs is> deep. Anyway, Bishop Robinson, the gay Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire,> is quoted in the NYTimes article as saying "And the God that he's [Warren> is] praying to is not the God that I know."> > I disagree strongly with Robinson. Our Christian God - and here i speak as> clergy - is not a god of opinions on the events of the day or on the issues> of rhe times - - God is the God of us all, despite our varying opinions. > > > Lincoln in his 2nd inaugural spoke of how both sides (Union and Confederate,> prayed to the same God. Lincoln wondered how we saw different things in God> based on our beliefs, but suggested that the prayers of both could not be> ansered.> > > Vince> > > > If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? > >> > If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? > > - ------------------------------> > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:35:45 -0800> From: "Cassy" > Subject: Re: songs that make me cry vljc> > Music moves me in a way nothing else does. At various times in my life > different songs have made me cry and that can be so cathartic especially > when you "need a reason" to allow yourself to be moved to tears. Each of > the following songs has moved me to tears at different times. > - ------------------------------> > End of JMDL Digest V2008 #329> *****************************> > -------> Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org> Unsubscribe by clicking here:> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe> ------- _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC? Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:59:40 -0000 From: "Jeff Hankins" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) 1.Joni's 'Tin Angel' used to do it for me every time - for years -, till my heart got hard... 2. For reasons beyond reason, many of the tracks on Dar williams' first 2 albums - 'espec. 'When I was a boy' 'This was Pompeii', 'February' and 'Mortal City' 3. Much of Mahler 4. (and, God forgive me...) 'For Good' from 'Wicked' Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:37:39 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Leffler" > Marion, happily anticipating the light to return to the Northern > hemisphere! Happy Solstice to All! Mark in snowbound Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:55:50 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: songs that make me cry First of all, no apologies needed for including "For Good." Reconciliation is one of the most powerful and moving experiences available to us; Dickens certainly knew that. For me: WOODSTOCK, the second verse DAVID LAHM **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:15:41 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) Somebody else mentioned Joni's 2000 remake of 'Both Sides Now'. I would definitely include that on my list. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Scott" To: "Paul Castle" ; Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Castle" >> >> Interested to know what does it for other jmdlers >> > > 'Being Alive' from the musical 'Company' (especially Streisand's > version on 'The Broadway Album') > 'Light One Candle' and 'Blowin' in the Wind' from Peter Paul and > Mary's 'A Holiday Celebration' > 'Sara' by Stevie Nicks w/Fleetwood Mac > 'A Total Eclipse of the Heart' by Bonnie Tyler - cheese maybe, but > it has a memory associated with that just won't die > > > Those are the main ones that come to mind at the moment. The test > is to try and sing the song. If I can't get through it myself > without it sticking in my throat, it's one of 'those' songs. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:14:13 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #269 In a message dated 12/20/2008 3:02:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:38:00 -0500 From: Russell Bowden Subject: DJRD...the song Gang, This terrific (what an inadequate word for it) song has always screamed SCORPIO to me..and why not? The snake and the eagle are heavily symolic of the sign...and the genius way she juxtaposes the two...the relentless drive of the music and the insistence of the lyrics...still gets MY feet up to dance!! Love, RussWestbound and rollin' Not only good to get you up on your feet to dance - but one of the best songs ever to run to. **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:51:09 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) - --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Jeff Hankins wrote: > 1.Joni's 'Tin Angel' used to do it for me every > time - for years -, till my heart got hard... This made me laugh. I get it. Oh for the days of a not-yet-hardened heart. There are times when even the sappiest TV commercials can make me cry though. I hate that! Some of you have mentioned Sarah MacLachlan's "Angel." They use it in a TV ad here for the humane society and you see pictures of animals that have been abused and their faces are so sad. I always have to change the channel. One that made me cry when I heard it again just recently is Bruce Cockburn's "The beautiful creatures." He uses a falsetto, which he doesn't often do, and it sounds like he's sobbing in that part. One that made me sob out loud, not just run at the eyes, was hearing Eric Andersen singing "Is it really love at all?" when I saw him live a few years ago. I was hoping he would sing it but quite unprepared for what happened when he started. Thought I'd die. Emotion really should announce itself first and not just plop itself down at your table like that. Someone else mentioned crying the first time they heard Joni's updated/mature version of "Both sides now" (from Travelogue or BSN - I don't feel like looking it up because I should be making dinner.) It hit me the same way. It probably helps to have aged along with Joni. One day, you wake up, and you realize you really are an old fart for real this time and you feel so damn wise all of a sudden but scared shitless when you realize that all the stuff your parents warned you would happen one day, has suddenly landed with a whump on your doorstep. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) Happy Solstice! I'm always happy to know the shortest day of the year has passed and the light will now come back slowly. (Of course in the southern hemisphere, it's the opposite, but you won't notice for a while.) It must be snowing everywhere. We had the second of three snowstorms today (in fact, it's still snowing.) I guess it's like our three ghosts before Christmas. - --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Mark Scott wrote: > From: Mark Scott > Subject: Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) > To: "Marion Leffler" , joni@smoe.org > Received: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 12:37 PM > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion > Leffler" > > Marion, happily anticipating the light to return to > the Northern hemisphere! > > Happy Solstice to All! > > Mark in snowbound Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:16:58 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Paula Cole New Album review With Joni Mention of course. Herbie plays on this album as well. Excerpt: Needless to say, the Paula Cole who, at 39, has just released "Courage" is a different person than the one whose last album came out in 1999, a time shed won legions of fans with her hits "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone" and the "Dawson's Creek" theme "I Dont Want to Wait" and collected a best new artist Grammy Award. Its a positive change. The at-times overreaching art-pop of her earlier work has been replaced with the earthy sophistication of producer Bobby Colomby's settings  from spare singer-songwriter approaches evoking early Joni Mitchell ("El Greco") to full-on orchestral jazz balladry ("Lonelytown")  with Cole showing herself to be a singer of substance and range. The lyrics too reveal an artist growing and seeking, but centered, with themes of security, assuredness and, stance and range yes, courage recurring from the opening plea for strength and acceptance in "Comin' Down" to the romantic mission statement "14" to the enraptured "Safe in Your Arms." And there's no agenda obscuring the art  no bitterness or resentment, no points to prove other than that she's renewed and has something worthwhile to offer upon returning to the career she walked away from eight years ago. Steve Hochman, June 22, 2007 Los Angeles Times Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:54:50 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #270 In a message dated 12/21/2008 3:04:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Subject: Re: songs that make me cry vljc Skeletons - Rickie Lee Jones (from Pirates) **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:32:31 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: a Joni mention Bonsoir, Joniami(e)s: A shy lurker wants to share this: Subject: odemagazine.com/slow-money > > fyi - > > down near the end - > > 'everyone isn't...joni mitchell' > > > > maybe they want to post it on the website - > > not sure who to send it to... > > > http://www.odemagazine.com/doc/58/slow-money-excerpt/all > > A book excerpt from Slow Money, by Woody Tasch Excerpts from "Reconnoitering" in Inquiries into the Nature of Slow Money: Investing as if Food, Farms, and Fertility Mattered by Woody Tasch. Reprinted with permission of the publisher, Chelsea Green Publishing.(TICS: Chelsea! Green! Money money money!)I'll extract it for you here since it's such a busy time of year:"Of course, everyone cant live on an organic farm. And everyone isnt Eliot Coleman any more than everyone is Joni Mitchell."Cool, n'est-ce pas? Her name's in the news. Everything's first class. (Comme d'habitude.) The excellent article should hold much interest for BB and Ms. Treegreen (Hey farmer, farmer!) and you know there may be more, when time allows. Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Its the same Hotmail.. If by same you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:37:42 -0500 From: "Steve Petrica" Subject: Want my VHS copy of "An All-Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell"? I've been going through old boxes of stuff, and I came across a home-made VHS videocassette of "An All-Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell" at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York on April 6, 2000, and broadcast on the TNT network 4/16/00. The program is written up here: http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=477 Joni's in the audience while many other artists (including Shawn Colvin, Elton John, Wynonna Judd, Chaka Kahn, Diana Krall, k.d. lang, Richard Thompson, Cassandra Wilson, among others) cover her songs. Hillary Clinton pays homage as well. You can have my copy if you'd like it. All I'd ask is for you to reimburse the mailing costs. If you want it, contact me off-list. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:10:43 -0600 From: mia _ Subject: Re: songs that make me cry vljc From hardest cry to lightest cry: Every Word - Sade Making Pies - Patty Griffin Fat Boy - Jewel The World Has Turned - Weezer (but only my own version on acoustic guitar slowed wayyyyy down) When You Don't Want Me Anymore - Nina Gordon For Free (live video from Pink Dress Concert) - Joni Mitchell (more of a beautiful heartfelt good cry) Mia _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #271 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe