From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #266 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, December 17 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 266 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni in Literature - NEW!? ["Phyliss Ward" ] Re: Retro Covers for December 2008, Volume 33 ["ron" ] Re: Joni reference in Into The Wild [Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com] Fwd: Title not in the song. ["Dan Olson" ] Re: Title not in the song. ["Dan Olson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:30:19 -0500 From: "Phyliss Ward" Subject: Joni in Literature - NEW!? Hi All, I'm de-lurking to share what is probably a new "Joni in literature" I discovered last night. I'm reading Wally Lamb's new book, "The Hour I First Believed". The main character is in to music, as I am sure the author is as well. All Three of his books are titled after song lyrics. Anyway, after an.ahem.private moment with himself the paragraph reads. "I cleared my throat, tucked myself back inside my boxers. What was that old Joni Mitchell lyric? "After the rush, when you come back down." Upstairs, the toilet flushed. Selfish prick, I thought. Absent Boy." Phyliss, back to lurkdom for now but hope to have some pics available from my recent trip to Matala soon. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:17:18 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Retro Covers for December 2008, Volume 33 once again - many thanks for this bob & fwiw i prefer robert peel's promise of pot in every chicken :-) ron - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "JMDL" Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:38 AM Subject: Retro Covers for December 2008, Volume 33 > Howdy folks, > > If your holiday stress-o-meter is pushing into the red zone, maybe you > need to chill with some oldie but goodie Joni covers. > > So here they are - it's Volume 33, first issued when Herbert Hoover > promised "2 chickens in every pot and etc": ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:12:38 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Retro Covers for December 2008, Volume 33 Thanks Ron, upon further review of the tracklist, there IS some pretty cool stuff there. And lots of rarities as well. I like your pot/chicken idea better as well. Bob NP: Joni, "See You Sometime" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Jeannie :) - --- On Tue, 12/16/08, ron wrote: > From: ron > Subject: Re: Retro Covers for December 2008, Volume 33 > To: "Bob Muller" , "JMDL" > Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 8:17 AM > once again - many thanks for this bob > > & fwiw i prefer robert peel's promise of pot in > every chicken :-) > > > ron > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" > > To: "JMDL" > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:38 AM > Subject: Retro Covers for December 2008, Volume 33 > > > > Howdy folks, > > > > If your holiday stress-o-meter is pushing into the red > zone, maybe you need to chill with some oldie but goodie > Joni covers. > > > > So here they are - it's Volume 33, first issued > when Herbert Hoover promised "2 chickens in every pot > and etc": ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:19:35 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni reference in Into The Wild I recently saw the movie Into The Wild (and will soon read the book!). In it, there was a Joni reference. This has probably been mentioned and I'm sure it is already on the site listed as such. However, I watched this very compelling film based on a true story of a young man who goes off "into the wild," without money, identification, breaking off all ties with the world in pursuit of something more I guess you could say. However, he does meet up with different people along the way, including a pair of hippies and their friends. At one point, they are all watching a show with the pair of hippies' friends including a young female performer (or maybe she was related to them, I'm not sure). Later on, the one hippie man told the main character to go and introduce himself to her saying something along the lines of, "why don't you go introduce yourself to our Joni Mitchell?" - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:55:14 -0500 From: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Subject: Re: Joni reference in Into The Wild This was a GREAT film- must say I do not remember the Joni mention, tho do recall the scene. Don't think the singer was related to the couple in the mobile home. It truly resonated with me and tho I rarely do this, thought this is one I might purchase and watch again and again. I will! Funny story about the "hippie", who is played by Brian Dierker- not an actor. I am in the clothing business, and when this film was premiering @ the Toronto Film Festival in September 2007, we dressed Sean Penn and some of the cast for the gala and subsequent press outings. Brian, the hippie, was one of them. Went to his hotel room, met his wife, and heard his story. Never acted before, he has a couple of companies, one of which is a river boat which is rigged for filming along the Colorado river, and he was hired to film some scenes in the movie. Sean Penn kept asking him to act in the movie, Brian kept saying no, I'm not an actor, just an aging hippie. Penn said that's exactly what I want you to be. Brian refused at least three times. After many attempts, I guess Penn finally convinced him! He was one of the most genuine people I have met- salt of the earth without pretensions. Looks exactly the same in person as in the movie, long hair in a pony tail, very tall, wonderful energy, and really is an aging hippie!! It was great fun for me to meet him. thanks for the memories! best Stephen in Toronto NP: Billy Paul "Lately" I recently saw the movie Into The Wild (and will soon read the book!). In it, there was a Joni reference. This has probably been mentioned and I'm sure it is already on the site listed as such. However, I watched this very compelling film based on a true story of a young man who goes off "into the wild," without money, identification, breaking off all ties with the world in pursuit of something more I guess you could say. However, he does meet up with different people along the way, including a pair of hippies and their friends. At one point, they are all watching a show with the pair of hippies' friends including a young female performer (or maybe she was related to them, I'm not sure). Later on, the one hippie man told the main character to go and introduce himself to her saying something along the lines of, "why don't you go introduce yourself to our Joni Mitchell?" - -Monika This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. We thank you for notifying us immediately. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:04:19 -0600 From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Fwd: Title not in the song. How about "For the Roses"? On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:57 PM, wrote: > Well, the easiest Joni song to think of where the title isn't in the song > is Hejira. > > Try working that one into a lyric...! > > j. > > > On other fronts... > > I have been toying with Joni's songwriting method where she floats a melody > over the finished music. For example, the wordless Two Grey Rooms and > Passion Play. I recall playing these songs for a few friends and they > commented (in a perjorative way) that it was 'almost' like scat singing. As > if she'd come up short, either melodically? Or because her vocals were > language like. Sort of like 'air guitar' italian or something. > > I was fascinated by this skill because I had no clue how one could pull it > off. Is anyone on the list up to taking the challenge to put a melody to > some of Joni's instrumental passages? How about the bridge in Paprika > Plains? Or melody (not to mention lyrics) to the Shine instrumental? I > recall the story with 2 Grey Rooms went as follows: Joni was bummed out > during a recording session with the 'boys' and asked Henry if she could go > in and put a melody over the polished music. I assume the demo we have is > that recording? And if it is, did she compose that in one take? -Talk about > creative genius if that's how it went down. > > Anyway, I've been toying with floating a melody over an instrumental. It > began while listening to Herbie's A Case of You. I was trying to sing the > song to the music and having a bitter time of it. I had Joni in my head. > -But something of a breakthrough happened when I decided to forget the > melody as Joni wrote it and simply get into the voicing of the instruments. > Somewhere in there I found a voicing and I found I could, in a rudimentary > way, float a melodic line over the song. For a few minutes I felt I was > channelling Diana Krall. :-) > > What I came away with is a greater sense of admiration and respect for > Joni's muse. > > And that even the smallest of us can play the creative game. So long as > everyone's out of the house and beyond ear shot. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:38:46 -0600 From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Re: Title not in the song. How about "For the Roses"? On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Dan Olson wrote: > How about "For the Roses"? > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:57 PM, wrote: > >> Well, the easiest Joni song to think of where the title isn't in the song >> is Hejira. >> >> Try working that one into a lyric...! >> >> j. >> >> >> On other fronts... >> >> I have been toying with Joni's songwriting method where she floats a >> melody over the finished music. For example, the wordless Two Grey Rooms and >> Passion Play. I recall playing these songs for a few friends and they >> commented (in a perjorative way) that it was 'almost' like scat singing. As >> if she'd come up short, either melodically? Or because her vocals were >> language like. Sort of like 'air guitar' italian or something. >> >> I was fascinated by this skill because I had no clue how one could pull it >> off. Is anyone on the list up to taking the challenge to put a melody to >> some of Joni's instrumental passages? How about the bridge in Paprika >> Plains? Or melody (not to mention lyrics) to the Shine instrumental? I >> recall the story with 2 Grey Rooms went as follows: Joni was bummed out >> during a recording session with the 'boys' and asked Henry if she could go >> in and put a melody over the polished music. I assume the demo we have is >> that recording? And if it is, did she compose that in one take? -Talk about >> creative genius if that's how it went down. >> >> Anyway, I've been toying with floating a melody over an instrumental. It >> began while listening to Herbie's A Case of You. I was trying to sing the >> song to the music and having a bitter time of it. I had Joni in my head. >> -But something of a breakthrough happened when I decided to forget the >> melody as Joni wrote it and simply get into the voicing of the instruments. >> Somewhere in there I found a voicing and I found I could, in a rudimentary >> way, float a melodic line over the song. For a few minutes I felt I was >> channelling Diana Krall. :-) >> >> What I came away with is a greater sense of admiration and respect for >> Joni's muse. >> >> And that even the smallest of us can play the creative game. So long as >> everyone's out of the house and beyond ear shot. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #266 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe