From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #255 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, December 6 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 255 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni (Blue) by Chris Bogia [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Joni (Blue) by Chris Bogia [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow [Bob Muller ] Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow [Jerry Notaro ] from NYT ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: From Bo/Lists and a belated message [Bob Muller ] Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow [Jeannie ] Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow [Bob Muller ] Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow [Joseph Palis ] Re: Herbie Hancock Joni tribute cd ["Dan Olson" ] Re: Herbie Hancock Joni tribute cd [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow [Bob Muller ] Linda Perhacs [anon anon ] Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends [Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Joni (Blue) by Chris Bogia Sorry, can't see it. I got an African piece. No Blue. Can it be seen somewhere else? Mark in Sydney http://www.jmdl.com/wallpaper ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:16:37 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni (Blue) by Chris Bogia OK, sorry. Got it now. You have to go in a few pages. Nice glass blowing. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:52:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow 2008 has been another outstanding year for Joni covers, capped off of course with a Best Album award for Herbie Hancock, and 2009 is already shaping up to follow suit. Here's an advance listen to a stunning cover of "Black Crow" by R&B singer Shemekia Copeland: http://www.shorefire.com/media/black_crow_20081202_150610.mp3 Since Covers #107 has gotten about 35 downloads, I'd love to hear what y'all think. Bob NP: Linda Perhacs, "Parallelograms" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:09:34 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow Well she sure starts the new year of covers off right. A spare, lean, funky version and very true to Joni's unusual rhythms. Jerry > From: Bob Muller > Reply-To: Bob Muller > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:52:07 -0800 (PST) > To: Joni List > Subject: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow > > 2008 has been another outstanding year for Joni covers, capped off of course > with a Best Album award for Herbie Hancock, and 2009 is already shaping up to > follow suit. > > Here's an advance listen to a stunning cover of "Black Crow" by R&B singer > Shemekia Copeland: > > http://www.shorefire.com/media/black_crow_20081202_150610.mp3 > > Since Covers #107 has gotten about 35 downloads, I'd love to hear what y'all > think. > > Bob > > NP: Linda Perhacs, "Parallelograms" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:12:30 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: from NYT BiLA FLECK & THE FLECKTONES: JINGLE ALL THE WAY (Rounder) Growling Tuvan throat singing takes over Jingle Bells. Silent Night becomes modal jazz with abstruse harmonies. The 12 Days of Christmas zigzags through a maze of meter shifts and key changes (perhaps The 12 Tones of Christmas?). And Tchaikovskys Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies pings its melody in harmonics from Bila Flecks banjo. Those are just four of the virtuosic transformations Mr. Fleck and his band come up with on an album that applies all sorts of musicianly gamesmanship to Christmas songs (and one Hanukkah tune) that can sometimes take an aural squint to recognize. Bluegrass and jazz are the Flecktones foundations, as can be heard in their nimble version of Sleigh Ride. But the song choices are eclectic  Bach, klezmer, Joni Mitchell , Linus and Lucy from A Charlie Brown Christmas  and the arrangements even more so. Give these musicians a musical parameter and theyll toy with it. JON PARELES A cover of River, natch. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:13:10 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: From Bo/Lists and a belated message Like Cassy, living in the Detroit area in the 60's meant that you were surrounded with Motown, and that was OK by me - I loved it and still do, although I much prefer the deeper tracks as opposed to the oldies warhorses that have been burned out by radio. Who can argue with a lineup that includes Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, The Supremes, Smoky Robinson, The Four Tops, The Temptations, and even Rare Earth? There's a great article about Motown, featuring interviews with the stars in one of the newer Vanity Fairs, I just read it last weekend. India Arie - also like Cassy, I love her positive songs and soulful voice. LOVED Suzanne Vega's first couple of records but didn't care as much for the later stuff. I met her at the Joni Carnegie Hall sow in the VIP area and she couldn't have been ruder or more standoffish - I'm happy to write that off to a bad night. Bob NP: Rickie Lee Jones, "Show Biz Kids" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:31:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow I love everything about Shemekia Sopeland's version of 'Black Crow.' Her voice, the instruments, the feel of the song feels like it's me gliding across this cold, blue-grey sky this morning and it doesn't get better than that when there's some sort of musical comfort in melancholy. Beautiful, Bob! Thanks for the link. Truly, Jeannie - --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Bob Muller wrote: > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow > To: "JMDL" > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:52 AM > 2008 has been another outstanding year for Joni covers, > capped off of course with a Best Album award for Herbie > Hancock, and 2009 is already shaping up to follow suit. > > Here's an advance listen to a stunning cover of > "Black Crow" by R&B singer Shemekia Copeland: > > http://www.shorefire.com/media/black_crow_20081202_150610.mp3 > > > Since Covers #107 has gotten about 35 downloads, I'd > love to hear what y'all think. > > Bob > > NP: Linda Perhacs, "Parallelograms" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:43:37 +0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Re: From Bo/Lists and a belated message LOL I love Suzanne Vega and met her at stage door at Shepherds Bush Empire, great gig and I sat in front of Ruby, her daughter. I mentioned this, saying that Ruby was lovely... instant change of mood!!!! I guess I could've been a stalker or something.... 2008/12/5 Bob Muller > Suzanne Vega?? How about Motown artists??? > > > India Arie - also like Cassy, I love her positive songs and soulful voice. > LOVED Suzanne Vega's first couple of records but didn't care as much for the > later stuff. I met her at the Joni Carnegie Hall sow in the VIP area and she > couldn't have been ruder or more standoffish - I'm happy to write that off > to a bad night. > > - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:04:08 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" <<< Here's an advance listen to a stunning cover of "Black Crow" by R&B singer Shemekia Copeland: http://www.shorefire.com/media/black_crow_20081202_150610.mp3 Just my opinion but I have to say this is one of the finest Joni covers ever. I love the soft jazzy style, bass line and her voice is fabulous, though I think understated in this song. <<>> Is it just me or do Joni covers seem to be improving? I think #107 is one of the better compilations. Rosana Eckert with Terry Haskins, Dave Browne, Okkervil River and Angus Stone are all excellent covers. A thoroughly enjoyable listen... well maybe except for Norman Yemm, I could have lived without that one but then a cover is a cover regardless of quality, some are just stand-outs. Warmly, Cassy NP: Simon Horrocks & Sean McIntyre - Who I'd Rather Be ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:29:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow Thanks for that, Cassy - I was pretty much blown away by it as well - of course I always get pretty excited about a Hejira cover and Black Crow always seems to be done so well by others. If only 1 or 2 would pick up on A Strange Boy, Furry, Refuge...they've all been covered but not nearly enough for me. And you're right about the increase in quality - one factor is that almost everything I'm getting my hands on is new stuff, so the arrangements are more modern, the sound is clear and with so many high-profile Joni covers out there, the bar is pretty high. Plus her catalog continues to be explored, new covers of Cherokee Louise and Two Grey Rooms in the last month as an example. Of course we'll probably never get away from those Top Ten "standards" of hers but it certainly keeps me busy. Bob NP: Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks, "Elmo Delmo" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:08:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow Thanks for the link, Bob. B R&b is unfortunately not one of the genre I know well so my observations may be off-target here. However I think that Shemekia Copeland's soulful version of 'Black Crow' is likeable and easy to recommend to people. I like the heft of her voice and the throbbing basslines accompanying her vocals. As far as reverence to Joni's original version, Shemekia paid homage to Joni and also re-inserts her own interpretative style. I don't like slavish versions of covers because it makes me think of the original in my head while I am listening to the version. B I have seen Shemekia's album in used CD bins but have not investigated her work, but maybe I will. I wonder how an artist like Joan as Policewoman would approach a Joni song. I'd like a punk-r&b version of 'Shadows and Light'. B Joseph in Chapel Hill np: Bliss ~B Kissin' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:23:33 -0600 From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Re: Herbie Hancock Joni tribute cd Not to quibble, but Nefertiti was written by Wayne Shorter, NOT Miles Davis. In fact, all of the tunes on Davis' album Nefertiti were written by Wayne Shorter, except Pinochio, which was written by Herbie Hancock. Also of note: not to plug Amazon.com, but for some reason the version that they sell has 2 bonus tracks, one of which, "All I Want", is for me, the best song on the album. ~Dan On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jeannie wrote: > I agree with Michael. > > But, this album is best for the listeners who can also take a relaxing back > seat to the music, taking in some deep breaths thus relieving the tensions > of the day, and then focusing and falling into nothing else but the beauty > and power of these exquisite compositions, each piece, so unique. > > Truly, > Jeannie > > > --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Michael Flaherty wrote: > > > From: Michael Flaherty > > Subject: Re: Herbie Hancock Joni tribute cd > > To: "James O. Phillips" , joni@smoe.org > > Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 11:45 AM > > >>>I hadn't gotten this as of *yet*, but was > > thinking of asking for it as a Christmas gift. What is > > various peoples opinions of it? > > > > I think it's great. Some of the best musicians alive > > playing Joni. What's not to like? > > > > Something you should know going in though: it's NOT a > > tribute album, it's a Herbie Hancock album of Joni's > > music, including a track each written by her most cited jazz > > men, Miles Davis and Duke Ellington. Also, the > > instrumentals don't always follow the vocal line. > > > > ie: This is jazz: the composer takes a backseat to > > musicians. ;) > > > > Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:39:50 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Herbie Hancock Joni tribute cd >>>Not to quibble, but Nefertiti was written by Wayne Shorter, NOT Miles Davis. That's not a quibble at all. I had to go back to my original message in which I was surprised to see that I had indeed said "written by". Thanks for catching it. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:58:26 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Shemekia Copeland - Black Crow As would I, of course - I particularly love it when a song is taken way way away from its roots. These days most of Joni's covers fall into the jazz idiom - I'm sure Joni likes that fact a lot. Bob NP: My Morning Jacket, "Touch Me, I'm Going To Scream, Pt.1" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:54:55 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: Linda Perhacs Hi everyone, I just want to recommend Linda Perhac's 1970 album "Parallelograms". It's considered to be an "acid folk" masterpiece... Linda Perhacs has said(in the liner notes of the reissued CD) that she was heavily influenced by Joni Mitchell... _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:11:56 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends I am not a fan of traditional ballet so I expect it is the music that will be pulling me through. But we'll see. I haven't attended a ballet since I was about 16. Maybe I'll feel differently this time. Back then, the first half was something traditional and I was ready to leave at intermission. Since my friend and I were there on a school assignment, we stayed for the second half -- which was Montreal Ballet Jazz or something, and I loved that. Thanks for the repost. Kate Stubblejumpers Cafi http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page On 2-Dec-08, at 6:03 PM, Michael wrote: Hey Kate, I'm reposting this message I sent you and the list in early in September. I saw the new ballet in Banff on September 5th. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #255 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe