From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #243 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, November 24 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 243 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s [do9eatdo9@yahoo.com] Bob (Smurf) Murphy [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s [Bob Muller ] Little David [mia _ ] Re: Little David [Corey Blake ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:37:16 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s How would you rank these great singersongwriter albums from early 70's (from the very best to the least best) (least best? ah, you know what i mean) 1. Joni Mitchell - Blue 2. Carole King - Tapestry 3. Carly Simon - No Secrets 4. James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim and Blue Horizon 5. Neil Young - Harvest 6. Van Morisson - Moondance 7. Your pick Rian NP. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:38:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Bob (Smurf) Murphy Hell, thank you soB so much for finding that wonderful post from Bob at the 2001 Jonifest.B I remember reading it and thinking: what a witty man!B The next summer I got to meet Bob and the other characters he mentions in person, and realised even more how funny his observations were.B Over the years, I got to know Bob more and more, via email and in person, and we became good friends.B It's not something I want to write about now, it's too personal.B I've sent my message for Bob via Ashara, and I am very gratefulB to herB for doing this for us, Bob's friends who are too far away at this time. Can't find the words for saying anything more now, apart from adding myB voice to all the messages of love and support from all of us, and seconding Bob Muller's wish for a miracle. Lieve in London. Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 03:25:37 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: get me the hell out of here Jesus Christ. John van Tiel never gave me any frigging chocolate. No cheese either. I never signed up for the Friday night pizza, so I practically starved. Maggie didn't do A FUCKING THING ALL WEEKEND! Mags and Bri were downright cold and hostile. Ashara made me sleep in the bathroom, again. People kept going all night. Especially Wally. Man that guy can pee. Les Ross sings like a fallen woman. There are NO LIQUOR STORES ANYWHERE NEAR HERE!!! Sal's got a maaaaaaaaaaaajor attitude. The church in Newburyport has taken out a restraining order. Alison has not worn any clothing all weekend, much to the dismay of the FOJ/FOD (Friends of Joni/Friends of Dorothy.) Kakki had a hair-pulling fight with Jimmy, of all people. We haven't eaten in days. Not even a crust of bread. Nothing but Joni Mitchell shit from dawn to dusk and back again. Really. And worst of all, that BITCH, Joni Mitchell, didn't even SHOW!!! I drove an hour for this????????????? And worst of all, Marcel looks just like Bill Clinton! Just had to speak up. All the best, - --Bob NP: A fucking dulcimer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:54:21 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s Here's my ranking, Rian: 1. My pick - Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson from 1971 2. Neil Young - Harvest 3. Joni Mitchell - Blue 4. James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim and Blue Horizon 5. Carole King - Tapestry 6. Van Morisson - Moondance 7. Carly Simon - No Secrets (have never heard it, though I did look at the cover a lot) Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Imperial Bedroom" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:49:28 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s 1. Joni Mitchell - Blue 2. My pick: Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks 3. Van Morrison - Moon Dance 4. Neil Young - Harvest (although it's my least favorite 70s Young) Tie, 5-7: Carole King - Tapestry Carly Simon - No Secrets James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim and Blue Horizon I haven't heard enough of them to judge. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:16:18 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s 1. Joni Mitchell- Blue 2. George Harrison- All Things Must Pass 3. Neil Young- Harvest The rest are a tie for last as I can't be a judge of them. I don't own them and have only heard a few songs off each. - -Mon - --- On Sun, 11/23/08, do9eatdo9@yahoo.com wrote: From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s To: joni@smoe.org Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:37 AM How would you rank these great singersongwriter albums from early 70's (from the very best to the least best) (least best? ah, you know what i mean) 1. Joni Mitchell - Blue 2. Carole King - Tapestry 3. Carly Simon - No Secrets 4. James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim and Blue Horizon 5. Neil Young - Harvest 6. Van Morisson - Moondance 7. Your pick Rian NP. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:23:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Preservation Hall Jazz Band & Blind Boys of Alabama... ..are all outta sight and the the best mean ol' daddies I laid my eyes, ears, heart, soul, spirit and mind on in a very long time. Thank you. Truly, Jeannie NP: Warren Zevon singing with his heart out, "Can I get a witness to my testament? Can I get an amen from the choir?" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:34:19 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s Actually, Rian, I would only choose the first two as the best. Joni in first place, of course, then Carole King in maybe third place. Your other suggestions were never among my favourites. I would put Leonard Cohen's Songs of Leonard Cohen in second place, Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge over troubled water in fourth, Dylan in fifth (don't remember the name of the album right now), Joan Baez in sixth (my two favourite albums of hers are Honest Lullaby and Diamonds and Rust but I think they came later) and in seventh place the Moody Blues album Every good boy deserves a favour. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Skickat: den 23 november 2008 10:37 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s How would you rank these great singersongwriter albums from early 70's (from the very best to the least best) (least best? ah, you know what i mean) 1. Joni Mitchell - Blue 2. Carole King - Tapestry 3. Carly Simon - No Secrets 4. James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim and Blue Horizon 5. Neil Young - Harvest 6. Van Morisson - Moondance 7. Your pick Rian NP. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:43:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s <1. Joni Mitchell - Blue 2. My pick: Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks> BOTT is my 2nd favorite album (right after Hejira) but as it came out in '75 I wasn't really considering it an "early 70's" release. Early 70's: 71-73 Mid 70's: 74-76 Late 70's: 77-79 Dylan wasn't that strong in the early 70's, really. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "We Shall Overcome" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter albums from early 70s <1. Joni Mitchell - Blue 2. My pick: Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks> BOTT is my 2nd favorite album (right after Hejira) but as it came out in '75 I wasn't really considering it an "early 70's" release. Early 70's: 71-73 Mid 70's: 74-76 Late 70's: 77-79 Fair enough. But shouldn't "70" be included? ;) I didn't pick Lennon because I never really thought of him as a "singer songwriter", but as Monika picked George without objection, I'll change my top two to: 1. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band 2. Joni Mitchell - Blue Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:41:47 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter plus genre Em wrote : I would add "Honky Chateau" in there. Also, "There Goes Rhymin' Simon". Michael then added: I didn't pick Lennon because I never really thought of him as a "singer songwriter", but as Monika picked George Marion also added: Joan Baez >>> But i thought Elton John is not a real singer songwriter. His songs are written by Bernie Taupin. Elton then adds the music. Correct me if i'm wrong. Same with Joan Baez, she didn't wrote the song, did she? As of Lennon, yes, just like Michael, I never consider Lennon as a "singer songwriter". I don't know why even though Lennon really wrote the music and lyric and sang it himself. Plastic Ono Band (1970) is a powerful album. Very raw. Very honest. And sometimes it scares me. But what make a singer songwriter a "singer songwriter" anyway? 1. The singer sings his/her own composition 2. The lyrics must have "confession" value 3. The music is simple, i mean, a guitar and a piano with a little drum is enough. 4. Not experimental. 5. Released in late 60s to late 70s 6. The roots : pop/folk/rock. Pure Jazz and R&B and pure country aren't included. Well, correct me please. What appear in my mind when it comes singer songwriter are artists like Joni, James, Carole, Dylan. Rian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:22:34 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter plus genre >>>1. The singer sings his/her own composition 2. The lyrics must have "confession" value 3. The music is simple, i mean, a guitar and a piano with a little drum is enough. 4. Not experimental. 5. Released in late 60s to late 70s 6. The roots : pop/folk/rock. Pure Jazz and R&B and pure country aren't included. Well, correct me please. What appear in my mind when it comes singer songwriter are artists like Joni, James, Carole, Dylan. It seems to me like the Plastic Ono Band fits the above 6 VERY well. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:18:34 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #242 > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Re: A Joni song for Smurf > > > 'why not play Bob playing Ethel playing Joni?' After all, Bob is always > about lots of laughs, lots of laughs more than anything else. > > And you can play it too: > > http://tinyurl.com/65ktq5 > > Hey, Bob, THANKS a bunch for that link... where and when was that recorded? Kenny B ************** One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:28:46 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Rank. Singer songwriter plus genre I'd say so. I've always thought "singer-songwriter" meant someone who writes their own songs and sings them. They may have a band but the band is there to fill out the song as opposed to the band creating something unique together. Therefore I put Harrison on my list and Lennon fits as well. Harrison always had a band around him but he was the one coming in with the songs for the others to play on. Same thing with Lennon. Same thing with Joni even. She has played with several musicians, compiling different bands for her background but it was always on her songs. - -Monika - --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Michael Flaherty wrote: >>>1. The singer sings his/her own composition 2. The lyrics must have "confession" value 3. The music is simple, i mean, a guitar and a piano with a little drum is enough. 4. Not experimental. 5. Released in late 60s to late 70s 6. The roots : pop/folk/rock. Pure Jazz and R&B and pure country aren't included. Well, correct me please. What appear in my mind when it comes singer songwriter are artists like Joni, James, Carole, Dylan. It seems to me like the Plastic Ono Band fits the above 6 VERY well. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:43:02 -0600 From: mia _ Subject: Play, Little David, Play According to the JMDL library, Joni wrote a song titled "Play, Little David, Play" as an ode to her friend, David Rea. As I was doing some research for school and looking for songs that are in the public domain (ie. songs that are no longer copyright protected), I came across what appears to be a religious song that was a hit in 1921: "Little David, Play on Your Harp": Little David play on your harp, Hallelu, hallelu; Little David play on your harp, hallelu. Little David play on your harp, Hallelu, hallelu; Little David play on your harp, hallelu. David was a shepherd boy, He killed Goliath and shouted for joy. Joshua was the son of Nun, He never would quit till his work was done. Little David play on your harp, Hallelu, hallelu; Little David play on your harp, hallelu. Little David play on your harp, Hallelu, hallelu; Little David play on your harp, hallelu Joni's "Play, Little David, Play" also appears to make some religious - and possibly anti-religious - lyrical references: Play Little David Play Little David, play David he would sit in some dark corner Seemed to melt the shadows with his eyes And the song that he was playing Was nothing less than prayin' And nothing more than sayin' "I'm alive." Won't you play, Little David Play Little David, play David he would send them notes a-flyin' Some that laughed and some that felt like tears He would play them fast or slowly Play them high or lowly But they always come out holy to my ear Won't you play, Little David Play Little David, play I don't need no Sunday sermon Need no Sunday shoes When I hear Little David playing I got religion through and through David he would send them notes a-flyin' Some that laughed and some that felt like tears He would play them fast or slowly Play them high or lowly But they always come out holy to my ear Won't you play, Little David Play Little David, play Won't you play, Little David, play Little David, play Won't you play, Little David, play Little David, play Do you suppose Joni was influenced by "Little David, Play on Your Harp" when she wrote "Play, Little David, Play"? Or maybe this is common knowledge already? I'm just so fascinated with Joni's early work and how she evolved! Mia _________________________________________________________________ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_1 12008 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:48:37 -0600 From: mia _ Subject: Little David Here is a cute video of "Little David, Play on Your Harp" performed by some really cute kids. The song definitely has a similar feel to Joni's Little David song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhQKipn89dE Mia (wow, my links are actually working again in my email account - 'tis the season of miracles!) _________________________________________________________________ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_1 12008 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:58:27 -0800 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Little David James Taylor also has a song on his fourth album, One Man Dog, called "Little David" with very similar lyrics. Little David, play on your harp Hallelu, hallelu, little David Play on your harp, hallelujah Little David, play on your harp hallelu, hallelu, little David Play on your harp, hallelujah Hey now, I don't know for sure It's gets said, I got told Some one said that the streets of heaven Are paved with solid gold It must make a might fine road Little David Little David, play on your harp Hallelu, hallelu, hallelujah Play on your harp, hallelujah On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:48 PM, mia _ wrote: > Here is a cute video of "Little David, Play on Your Harp" performed > by some > really cute kids. > > The song definitely has a similar feel to Joni's Little David song: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhQKipn89dE > > Mia > > (wow, my links are actually working again in my email account - 'tis > the > season of miracles!) > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to > suspicious email. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_1 > 12008 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #243 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe