From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #222 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, November 3 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 222 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Learning Leonard Cohen [Mark-Leon Thorne ] SV: No Covers yet but some live stuff for ya ["Marion Leffler" ] No Covers yet but some live stuff for ya [Marianne Rizzo Subject: Re: Learning Leonard Cohen Rian, I think the comparison can be made in the storytelling quality. They are both great storytellers. It makes me wonder if this is a Canadian thing. I mean, I find the landscape quite conducive to storytelling. The wide open prairies, the deep and foreboding forests and mountains that touch the sky that make you want to just fire up the campfire and get in touch with your inner storyteller. Leanard has his finger on the pulse of people's private lives and inner most feeling just as Joni does. Just like Joni, his stories are real, they come from his soul and can therefore touch other people's souls. Mark in Sydney NP Australian Idol Top 5 show (Michael Jackson night with Jermaine Jackson as guest judge) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:32:03 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: No Covers yet but some live stuff for ya Another gem from Bob! Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am still just discovering early Joni (pre-recording Joni, that is) and haven't even heard all of the songs, so this is a real treat! Marion, waiting impatiently for the download to be completed (1 minute and 31 seconds to go) - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Bob Muller Skickat: den 1 november 2008 15:25 Till: JMDL Dmne: No Covers yet but some live stuff for ya OMG - November already? It was JUST October 1...anyway, the date has snuck up on me and I am NOT ready to pass along Covers Volume #106 to y'all, I need a couple more days. In the meantime, so y'all don't go all "Angry McCain-Palin Kill Him-Mob" on my ass, here's a great live Joni show that you can enjoy while you're waiting for me to get my act together. (No comments). It's Joni's appearance at The White Swan, Leicester UK, September 16, 1967 - sponsored by the Couriers Folk Club. The set is a stunner and features the only recording of "The Wizard Of Is" that I'm aware of - and yes, it does sound an AWFUL lot like Cohen's "Suzanne". Here's the link: https://www.yousendit.com/download/Y2orT205UnExUUJFQlE9PQ And the setlist: 1. Play Little David, Play 2. Come To The Sunshine 3. Chelsea Morning 4. The Wizard Of Is 5. Both Sides Now 6. Night In The City 7. Song To A Seagull 8. Morning Morgantown 9. Dr. Junk 10. Eastern Rain 11. The Circle Game 12. Michael From Mountains 13. Go Tell The Drummer Man 14. I Don't Know Where I Stand Enjoy - I'll have #106 up by this time next week Bob NP: Jethro Tull, "Up To Me" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:04:34 -0800 From: "Allison Crowe Music" Subject: Re: No Covers yet but some live stuff for ya + Learning Leonard Cohen "Who Knows Where the Time Goes?" - indeed, Bob! Thanks so much for Joni's '67 White Swan set. Just a wonderful treat for this Sunday listening - with an extra hour in my day, I know where it's going ( : Rian, and all who dig Leonard Cohen - BBC Radio 2 broadcast a terrific documentary yesterday - celebrating the song "Hallelujah" (originally on the Various Positions album). "The Fourth, the Fifth, The Minor Fall" broadcast is available online for the next week @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00f928x/The_Fourth_The_Fifth_The_Minor_Fall Happy All Soul's Day! Ad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:24:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Rose, John R." Subject: Joni Birthday Feature Monday On Internet Radio I'll be celebrating Joni's 65th(11-7-43) by playing lots of her music on this week's "Hidden Treasures" show. The show is broadcast tomorrow(and every Monday) from 12-4 PM CST at http://uicradio.org/ . For requests,you can email me at rose60612@yahoo.com . I hope you can join me! John Rose http://www.myspace.com/rose60612 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 23:43:23 -0200 From: "Miguel Arrondo" Subject: RE: Learning Leonard Cohen Rian wrote: "A few days ago i borrowed 8 records of Leonard Cohen from a senior at the office (which of course i copied). So, i've been listening to those records heavily these days, trying to "learn" how come he becomes one of music world's highest echelon member." "I'm a person who enjoys songs from melody first, then the lyric." "The Joni Content part: How do you compare Leonard Cohen's music to Joni's?" Hello, Rian, I always thought that Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan are the only ones that can stand alongside Joni Mitchell when it comes to high quality songwriting in popular music. They have a standard that others cannot reach, not even very good songwriters like Paul Simon, James Taylor... well, there are lots of them, but only those three have the touch that make them special. And I'm talking of songs, which IMHO can not always be disected between words and music, they are a whole, and they have something I fail to define, that make one listen for them again and again for decades without getting bored (that's my case). Cohen never focused too much in the melodies, he was a well known writer years before he released his first album. But he gets the magic when he sings his poems. See how different each of them, Joni never wrote a book (that I know at least), Dylan was pushed to do so and the results were not so good as expected, and Cohen have published many of them, even two novels (which I dont's like as much as his poetry). I think too that Dylan have a little too large discography, many songs would have been better left aside, but he was so much a money maker for so many people that maybe he just could not help it. Cohen was more ascetic, in life and work. More like Joni in this point. Anyway their (the 3 of them) LPs, CDs and DVDs are the first I'd pick to take to my desert island. A name that comes to my mind at this moment... Peter Hamill, the englishman. He can be put a little step behind. Well, sunday night, sleep time. Good wishes for all. Miguel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:45:21 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: No Covers yet but some live stuff for ya looks like you are making a lot of people happy Bob you have a way about doing that From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: No Covers yet but some live stuff for ya Thank you very much, Bob. I don't have this one. _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. 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