From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #194 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, October 7 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 194 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Roll call and question ["Marion Leffler" ] Then & Now: The Definitive Herbie Hancock [vincenzo mancini ] Re: The trashing of summer lawns ["T Peckham" ] SV: Roll call and question ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: The trashing of summer lawns [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: STAS and me [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Roll call and question [Jerry Notaro ] Re: A very pretty photo of Joni [Laura Stanley ] Re: Robin & Dave at Holycombe [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Unraveling 'BLUE' [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: Robin & Dave at Holycombe [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: STAS and me [Michael Paz ] Re: 'MOA' Vs 'THOSL' ;-) [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: 'MOA' Vs 'THOSL' ;-) [Wtking59@cs.com] Song to a Seagull [Mags ] STAS and me ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Robin & Dave at Holycombe [PassScribe@aol.com] RE: SJC, Newbie [Laura Stanley ] RE: SJC, Newbie [Catherine McKay ] Re: The trashing of summer lawns [Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Roll call and question Hi jonipeople, I bought STAS, Clouds and LOTC at the same time, in 1970, the year I first encountered Joni's music. I don't remember which one I heard first, but I think it was Clouds. I still have all my vinyl records up to and including WTRF. In the early seventies, I lived in a very small town with only one record store, and it did not carry Joni's records so I had them order her albums when they were released. It took several weeks until I got them, ages, it seemed. When Blue arrived, I shut myself in for the whole weekend, playing it over and over again. I was 21 at the time, had lost the love of my young life and probably overidentified with Blue. But it saved my life! I drank a case of it and found myself still on my feet. Another matter: the other day I visited the internet store I often order cd:s from, www.cdon.com . Of course I checked out their Joni stock and to my amazement found three cd:s that I have never heard of: Court and Spark at a price of 449 Swedish crowns (approx. 63 US-dollars), the equally expensive Joni Mitchell and at a more reasonable price, Woodstock. (The average price of cd:s in Sweden is approx. 20 US-dollars. Joni's earlier releases cost about 11-12 US-dollars at cdon.com, and strangely enough, so does Shine now, so I guess it didn't sell very well here). All three "newcomers" are labelled "border import" and no images of the packages nor a list of songs on the cd:s are provided. I checked the chronology section at jonimitchell.com and came up empty. I guess the two expensive cd:s must be double cd:s. Does anyone have any information? Have a good week, Marion ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:15:03 +0000 From: vincenzo mancini Subject: Then & Now: The Definitive Herbie Hancock A deluxe edition of Hancocks collection is available with a dvd featuring River and Hana (and Cantaloupe Island) from the Nissan sessions!!! http://www.cdgo.com/artigoDetalhe.php?idArtigo=3934315&lang=EN https://www.abella.com/detailanz/produktanzeige.rt?prid=584900 It seems they are no longer available from the net Can anybody burn them on a dvd? Please e-mail me privately. Vincenzo Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:11:50 -0700 (PDT)From: David Sapp Subject: Joni and Herbie for $.99 River performed live by Joni and Herbie is available for $.99 at iTunes. Simply find Herbie's new CD entitled Then and Now. This is a really lovelyperformance if you haven't heard it. The band is a perfect and subtle cushionfor Joni's vocal. Highly recommended.... signing off for now,Peace, David _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&m kt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 04:44:21 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: HOSL ABSOLUTELY, Steve ;-) But (seriously, now), YES -- "In France They Kiss On Main Street" was INDEED a single (released in March of '76. FYI, the B-side was "The Boho Dance"). I believe it was (thankfully) the only single released from 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns.' Needless to say, it sunk like a rock. And as I've stated before, it's NOT as if I absolutely HATE the album ('THOSL') or anything. As a matter of fact, I LOVED the album when it was first released. But over time I've come to feel that it's the worst, most disappointing disc she'd ever released up to that point. JMO, folks. After all, it's NOT as if I'm the only devoted Joniphile who shares the same opinion. Besides, it provides me a comparison to argue against when passionately defending my favorites (i.e., 'CAS,' 'MOA,' 'FTR' and 'Blue'). ;-) XXXOOO, Billy NP: 'Under the Big Black Sun' (1982) by X _____________________________________________ SRobe444@aol.com wrote: >>> I was surprised to read that "In France They Kiss on Main Street" bombed as a single. I always wondered why it WASN'T released as a single - I thought it would have been Number One! Shows my taste. <<< Steve Roberts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:29:02 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: 'MOA' Vs 'THOSL' ;-) The HDCD remastered edition sounds pretty decent (well, decent for 'THOSL'--LOL). And just for the record, I think "Edith" and "Scarlett" are probably two of the LEAST interesting--and most stereotypical--characters (and/or characterizations) in Joni's early canon. :-( In fact, I'd say that "Shadows and Light" ("critics of all expression, judges in black and white"--ironic, huh?) is unfortunately the only lyric on 'THOSL' that says anything substantial or worthwhile. Probably just me, though... ;-) XXXOOO, Billy ___________________________________________ StDoherty@aol.com wrote: >>> Good to hear some chatting about 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns.' For me - I think it's a great album. Not Joni's best, but perfect for the time. I've been listening to it lately -- even before the posts. The one problem I have with it is the CD I purchased many years ago to replace my vinyl. The recording quality is bad, bad bad ... I have to get a new copy. Anyway - we've been speaking of characters -- you can't beat Edith and Scarlet - yippee. "The Boho Dance" was as autobiographical as anything she did (interesting since it's based on a book not written by Joni, but the equally accomplished Tom Wolfe). <<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 02:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Roll call and question Marion, Just guessing, but the CAS might be the high-end audio 'gold-disc' version. Woodstock is an import, nothing more than a rearrangement of the songs on LOTC. I don't know what the third one is - could be some kind of bootleg - what are the tracks? Bob NP: Fleet Foxes, "Your Protector" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:25:21 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: The trashing of summer lawns Hear, hear! Nothing wrong with just having favorites and less (or least) favorites. I don't get the best/worst arguments either. Imagine that for some bizarre reason, Ms. Mitchell herself wrote up a list: "My Albums, Best to Worst." (Absurd on the face of it, no?) But even if she did, it would do little to change or diminish my enjoyment and appreciation of her art *in the way it makes me feel*. I might come to *think *differently about her work---like, if she rated one of my best-loved albums near the bottom, I guess I'd have to ponder why---but ultimately, it wouldn't change what her music meant to me when I first heard it, and how it makes me feel now. Once again, she has said it best herself, and here comes a big paraphrasing of it: She creates for herself, puts out the best possible version of it for all of us, and is content to let each person make of it what they will. Who cares what she "meant"? What does it mean to *you*? And I think she has also said that asking her to name her favorite song or album is like asking someone to name their favorite of their children. I don't really care if people want to carry on these conversations---just wanted to say I think Marion makes some very good points. :-) Terra NPIMH: the sound of myself yelling at myself to GO TO BED! On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Marion Leffler wrote: > With regard to recent discussions between Billy, Monica and others: > > > > Excuse my naivety, but I just don't understand the urge some people on > this > list seem to have to trash this or that album and to appoint this or that > other album the highlight of Joni's genius. We have had these discussions > before, and they have always made me wonder. Now please don't get me wrong, > I don't mean to say that everyone should like each album just the same. I > do > have my preferences as well, and I love to read about how other list > members > interprete different songs and why they like them or dislike them. But why > does any one album have to be "the worst" while another album is "the > best", > often stated not as an opinion but a matter of fact? What is that about? I > see it this way: Joni puts out her work, and we can either enjoy it or let > it be. We will relate to her songs in our different ways, some of them will > be relevant to our lives and some won't. But let's not confuse our dislike > of or indifference to some songs with judgement of quality. As for THOSL, > it > marks Joni's departure from so-called confessional song writing but no-one > has ever convincingly argued that it also marks a departure from previous, > supposedly higher, standards or quality. Criticism has been in terms of > "harsh, cold, judgemental, arrogant", all having to do with how the > listener > perceives meaning and sentiment. So I guess the critics were disappointed > to > find a realistic story-telling Joni instead of the heart-broken, > heart-mending Joni they expected. As we know, Shine has rendered similar > "criticism" and worse. Some people can't seem to accept that the Joni of > the > late 60's and 70's is long gone. But all we can do is either to continue > being interested in what she has to say or not to. Either way, it won't > effect the quality of her work, as she has proven constantly. > > > > Doesn't criticism nearly always tell us more about the critic than the work > that's being critizised? > > > > Have a nice Sunday, > > Marion in stormy, rainy autumn Sweden > - -- Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss my sweet ass. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:08:21 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Roll call and question Thanks for responding so quickly, Bob! Unfortunately the tracks are not listed so I have no idea. Is CAS worth buying, do you think? Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Bob Muller Skickat: den 6 oktober 2008 11:53 Till: Marion Leffler; JMDL Dmne: Re: Roll call and question Marion, Just guessing, but the CAS might be the high-end audio 'gold-disc' version. Woodstock is an import, nothing more than a rearrangement of the songs on LOTC. I don't know what the third one is - could be some kind of bootleg - what are the tracks? Bob NP: Fleet Foxes, "Your Protector" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:20:52 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: The trashing of summer lawns Well put, Marion. I couldn't agree more. I have stated here many times before that there is no song of Joni's that I dislike. There are some that I may play less but, for me, listening to Joni's music is bearing witness to a journey of a fascinating person. That's why I don't separate "60s Joni" from how she is today. I may not be the cute 4 year old I was in 1968 but there's no denying that he's still in me. Joni has grown. I doubt that I would be as interested in what she has to say if she hadn't. It is her growth that I find most fascinating. Superficially, her style is quite different from her early years but, what she was and what she has become are part of the journey. I still love to listen to her early work because it is relevant to episodes in my life and there is even an extrapolation, a continuance to lessons learned in how she thinks today. I love Joni's body of work and the essence of who she is as a person but, that's not to say, I believe she is perfection as a human being either. She would be the first to admit she has flaws. I have also said before that, of course, I would be honoured to meet Joni and have a little conversation with her but, I can tell that I probably not enjoy her company for too long. I have a very old friend who I see the same way. He is the wisest man I have ever known, attractive, kind, intelligent, caring, conscientious, benevolent, charitable, etc, etc but I can't spend too much time with him. Some people just need to be respected from afar. Just like Joni, her work is neither good or bad, it just is and needs to be appreciated for what it is. Mark in Sydney NP Praying For Time - George Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:36:23 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Roll Call I wasn't old enough to have had STAS when it first came out. I was only 4. My first Joni album was the Australia only compilation, The World of Joni Mitchell which had several tracks from STAS on it. Naturally, I fell in love with those tracks and had to have more. I listened to TWOJM on my old cassette deck all the way across the Australian desert. By the time I got to Darwin, I knew each of those songs backwards. Then it kept me company on lonely nights when I lived on the beach and knew no one. I seem to remember hearing Miles of Aisles around that time too. When I finally made my way back to Sydney, I tried to find STAS but I was told that it wasn't released in Australia. I guess the record company released TWOJM as a sampler and to promote the following albums. It had a dark green cover with a black and white photo of Joni on the front. I finally found a copy of STAS in Vancouver when I was hitchhiking around North America in 1982. I carried it in my back pack for months all across North America, from Whitehorse to Atlanta. Of course, STAS did get released in Australia (not sure when) but, I treasured that copy I brought back with me because of the words on it, "Made in Canada". What a strange boy. Mark in Sydney NP Cool Rain - Peggy van Zalm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:47:56 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: STAS and me Chuck, I found your reminiscings thoroughly entertaining. I'd love to hear your rendition of UFG. It's a pity you had expectations of STAS. BSN and UFG are amazing songs but the songs on STAS are equally amazing in their own right. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:54:51 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Roll call and question I looked at the web site, Marion, and it also looks like it is a bootleg of Ladies of the Canyon. The site doesn't give you any information which always makes me suspicious. I've seen that title on the LOTC bootleg in discount stores. Jerry > Hi jonipeople, > > I bought STAS, Clouds and LOTC at the same time, in 1970, the year I first > encountered Joni's music. I don't remember which one I heard first, but I > think it was Clouds. I still have all my vinyl records up to and including > WTRF. In the early seventies, I lived in a very small town with only one > record store, and it did not carry Joni's records so I had them order her > albums when they were released. It took several weeks until I got them, > ages, it seemed. When Blue arrived, I shut myself in for the whole weekend, > playing it over and over again. I was 21 at the time, had lost the love of > my young life and probably overidentified with Blue. But it saved my life! I > drank a case of it and found myself still on my feet. > > > > Another matter: the other day I visited the internet store I often order > cd:s from, www.cdon.com . Of course I checked out > their Joni stock and to my amazement found three cd:s that I have never > heard of: Court and Spark at a price of 449 Swedish crowns (approx. 63 > US-dollars), the equally expensive Joni Mitchell and at a more reasonable > price, Woodstock. (The average price of cd:s in Sweden is approx. 20 > US-dollars. Joni's earlier releases cost about 11-12 US-dollars at cdon.com, > and strangely enough, so does Shine now, so I guess it didn't sell very well > here). All three "newcomers" are labelled "border import" and no images of > the packages nor a list of songs on the cd:s are provided. I checked the > chronology section at jonimitchell.com and came up empty. I guess the two > expensive cd:s must be double cd:s. Does anyone have any information? > > > > Have a good week, > > Marion ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:15:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: A very pretty photo of Joni Monika wrote: http://malkamarom.com/interviews/facetoface.jpg That is what is currently my computer background. I would say a very pretty picture indeed. Oh my, she has a guitar instead of a pole! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:43:47 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Robin & Dave at Holycombe I sincerely thank everyone who had a hand in recording & posting the music from the Holycombe JoniFest; I downloaded it last night and am enjoying it immensely. I've always admired ANYONE who could sing and play music, and I give much credit to ANYONE who gets up at a JoniFest and performs for the crowd; bless you all. That said, I am SO impressed with Robin Adler & Dave Washburn's offerings at the fest... these songs sound like professional recordings. Robin's voice and vocal arrangements, and what I imagine are Dave's guitar licks, are AMAZING! If this duo isn't already performing professionally, they should be. I just made up two CD's of their stuff which I'll be able to listen to in the car today. Thanks to all involved, again. Kenny B ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:07:01 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: Unraveling 'BLUE' COOL, Bob -- I had no idea! Apparently, I'm gonna have to darken everyone's door (LOL) and swing a Jonifest one of these years. XXXOOO, Billy __________________________________________ scjoniguy@yahoo.com wrote: >>> I know that the author, Michelle Mercer, was at the last Full Moon Jonifest, she's a big Joni fan and she's a big fan of Wayne Shorter as well and has written about him as well. She writes for NPR if I remember right. I'll bet this book is going to be a good one. Good catch! <<< Bob ___________________________________________ Billy wrote: >>> So... what does anyone else know about this forthcoming book? Title: "Will You Take Me As I Am: Unraveling Joni Mitchell's 'Blue'" by Michelle Mercer (Release date: 4/7/09. Hardback, 256 pages) Here's the Amazon.com link to pre-order: http://www.amazon.com/Will-You-Take-Unraveling-Mitchells/dp/1416559299/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223143000&sr=1-1 XXXOOO, Billy NP: 'Nice Girls Don't Stay For Breakfast' (1967) by Julie London <<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:29:59 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Robin & Dave at Holycombe Not to worry - they definitely are: http://robinadler.com/ And not just a duo, they add an impressive list of musicians to the band and put on a tremendous Joni tribute show. Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Any World That I'm Welcome To" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I hardly ever play that one anymore in favor of later recordings, but those two songs hold a place in my heart forever. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 6, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: Chuck, I found your reminiscings thoroughly entertaining. I'd love to hear your rendition of UFG. It's a pity you had expectations of STAS. BSN and UFG are amazing songs but the songs on STAS are equally amazing in their own right. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:12:28 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: 'MOA' Vs 'THOSL' ;-) OUCH, Michael! ;-) But you're probably correct when you state that there likely isn't anything Monika could write to convince me otherwise. Over the years, I think I've heard it all. However, that DOESN'T mean her "answer" (?) has been ignored. Rather, the issue is most often TIME (...or lack thereof). And I don't recall suggesting that Joni's "better albums" were defined by either critics' opinions or sales receipts (after all, I was the one who pointed out that 'THOSL' was Joni's 3rd-highest charting disc). Plus, don't forget that I'm also a big fan of both Laura Nyro and X--NEITHER of which ever charted a major hit). If I'm not mistaken, I actually referenced those facts as regards 'MOA's somewhat lackluster ranking on the JMDL album poll (which, oddly enough, is the disc that apparently needs defending here). I, too, form my own opinions, and to suggest otherwise is inaccurate and misleading. But, let's INDEED be consistent. If we agree with the critics lavish praise of Joni's pre-Hissing material, then we must ALSO consider their negative comm ents when she gets panned. Finally, I'm confident enough in my love of Joni's music to realize that just because I dislike 'Hissing' doesn't (I hope) make me any less of a major Joni Mitchell fan. I think she's one of the absolute greatest of all time. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here. XXXOOO, Billy NP: 'Cut You' (1996) by Penelope Houston _____________________________________________ mflaher3@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Exactly, Monica, although you're wasting your typing fingers if you think this often made point is going to be heard. This same argument keeps coming up with no acknowledgment of any counter-argument that's been made. When the answer is made but ignored, it's best to leave the issue silence until it goes away. We have to be consistent. If we say "the critics love 'Blue' and 'C&S' sold the most copies, therefore these are demonstrably better albums than the late 70s albums", we also have to say that "Joni Mitchell, is, at best, a B level artist--a female Bob Dylan, but far less important." In fact, if we go by sales, Joni is not even a major artist. <<< Michael Flaherty ________________________________________________ motitan75@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Also, what is a critic to me? I could not care less about what one critic says. I form my own opinion. <<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:32:11 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: 'MOA' Vs 'THOSL' ;-) YES, Catherine--Joni's 3 highest charting albums to date are: 'Court and Spark' (at the #2 position) 'Miles of Aisles' (also at #2) 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' (at #4) BTW...I'm not convinced it was entirely coincidental that 'THOSL' was completely omitted from her wonderful "Woman of Heart and Mind" film that was produced a few years ago. Nor, for that matter, that it ('THOSL') was one of her very few albums NOT to be represented with even a single track when she later recorded 'Travelogue' in 2002. Just a (curious) thought. :-o XXXOOO, Billy _______________________________________ Catherine (anima_rising@yahoo.ca) wrote: >>> All this talk about which albums are the good albums... At the time, of course, I loved both Clouds and STAS. Nowadays, I don't listen to either that much. I wondered about wtking's mention of Miles of Aisles being a hit. I'm too lazy to go back and find the posts about that, so am using one to answer various topics. I don't recall MOA being a hit and don't recall it being played it on the radio. But then I realized, I wasn't in the English-speaking world when it came out. That was the year I was in Quebec, so maybe I missed it. I didn't realize it was apparently that popular. I never heard any of it in Quebec. I never bought MOA until a few years ago. I know my sister had the album back then, and I remember hearing it at her house and thinking I really needed to buy it but never got around to it until much later. If I had to pick between MOA and Hissing, Hissing would win for me. I love Joni's voice on it. It's all a matter of personal preference. We all have different taste and some prefer early Joni to later Joni. I appreciate all of it. I'm not sure how many artists have gone through as many changes as Joan. I'm not sure whether being a "critic" necessarily makes a person any more qualified to comment on how good one album is compared to another. If a person is a critic, paid by someone to provide their opinion, the main difference between that person and anyone else, assuming the two have some kind of musical knowledge or experience to provide more than simply an, "I like it" or "I hate it" response, is that the professional gets paid for their advice. Nor do I think that having hits or being popular with the masses makes one song or one album better than any other. All we have to do is look at the kind of drek that's played on radio these days (becoming crotchety and showing my age now?) So much music that's played on popular radio today is based on electronically produced beats and nonsensical lyrics that appeal to the crotch more than to the heart or mind. This stuff is marketed so relentlessly that it insinuates itself into people's consciousness and, even though I don't have a great deal of faith in popular taste, when you're given a diet made up mostly of junk food, then you probably wouldn't recognize a nutritious meal. And the mark-up on junk food is higher than it is on fruits and vegetables, so much more money can be made on it, therefore flogging it to the masses is bound to bring in huge profits. That's enough of my rant for now. <<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Song to a Seagull I didnt find this wonderful album until much later, as others have said. I think it was no doubt through the list. Same goes for For the Roses. My first Joni find was Court and Spark, then Blue, then Ladies. I think Clouds was discovered around that time too. Prior to joining the list, with only a few early albums in my memory stores, imagine my and my friend Chris' surprise when the concert we saw Joni play in Toronto 1998 at Maple Leaf Gardens featured so much of her work, such as Hejira, etc. Somehow I missed Hejira along the way, looked at Joni in a beret and thought oh no, she's gone all jazz on us and I never gave it a chance. Until the list. Since then, Ive grown to love it more and more. Lots of daily quotes come round from that one, as recently as last night, at a CD release party, and I was looking at posters of upcoming events. There's a play written by Sam Shephard (sp?) who we have grown to know affectionately as Coyote. I love this list, love the circles of conversations that go round and round.. Even if I"ve heard a discussion about Joni, impressions, interpretations, I rarely grow tired, as entry is, to me, a further attempt in understanding the complexities of someone whose music we love and share. Lucy, I enjoyed reading your wonderful most missive, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts about this lovely place. Mags soon off to the big smoke to see a tribute to Bruce Cockburn ;-) . i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:57:20 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: STAS and me I spent that summer on Cape Cod before & after attending Woodstock. At that point I was knocked out by the debut album a friend turned me onto of a little known, but up & coming new artist from the area (Martha's Vineyard), James Taylor. The very same thing repeated itself a few years later, when living in SoCal, a friend brought over the debut album of a little known, but up & coming new artist from the area LA), Jackson Browne. What an amazing time for new music & now of course, decades later, amazing longevity- and they both have new albums out! Kate PS to make this still relevant to JC I'll just add that Joni loved them both & they loved her. Chuck e >Over the summer of 69 the local PBS station was broadcasting back-to- back Arlo and Joni concerts, which they repeated every day for a week. Tim and I watched it just about every day, transfixed, on the only color TV we knew. That's also the summer of the Moonwalk, and Woodstock.< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:08:00 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Robin & Dave at Holycombe In a message dated 10/6/08 10:31:19 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: > http://robinadler.com/ > Thanks for that Link, Bob... I'm checking it out. Also, I realize that I wrote Dave WASHBURN in my original email; I don't know where I got THAT from but it's BLACKBURN... sorry 'bout that. Kenny B ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: RE: SJC, Newbie Hi James, I love the art work included with that album. You are right on about the Blake lines. I've been listening to Turbulent Indigo of late. I was thinking today if I got a tatoo that had to do with Joni, it would say Turbulent Indigo. Love, Laura - --- On Thu, 10/2/08, James Matheson wrote: > From: James Matheson > Subject: RE: SJC, Newbie > To: sillyseabird@yahoo.com > Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 2:50 PM > Thanks Laura. > Lately? Taming the Tiger > The instrumental opening on "Harlem in Havana" is > a little bit scary, and > sometimes I LIKE to be scared. > On the title track - I Love the way the words of the chorus > bump up together > "'Tiger, Tiger, burning bright...' > Nice, kitty, kitty." > It's the pauses and emphasis that count here. > Who else could do that with Blake? > So cool. > Jimmie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Stanley [mailto:sillyseabird@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:02 AM > To: matheson@sfsu.edu > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: SJC, Newbie > > > Hi Jimmie, > > Welcome to the list! What Joni album have you been > listening to most > recently? > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:57:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: SJC, Newbie - --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Laura Stanley wrote: > I've been listening to Turbulent Indigo of late. I > was thinking today if I got a tatoo that had to do with > Joni, it would say Turbulent Indigo. > It has occurred to me (just now, in fact) that Turbulent Indigo would make a helluva good name. Alas, my childbearing days are over. Oh, on second thought, maybe that's not such a bad thing. Har har. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: The trashing of summer lawns Well, I felt the need to defend THOSL not only because it is my jam, but also because it seemed like the negative review of THOSL was being stated as fact rather than an opinion. I just wanted to shed a little light on the fact that it was simply one person's opinion, that another's is different and neither is wrong or right. You can't state something like that as fact. - -Monika - --- On Mon, 10/6/08, T Peckham wrote: Hear, hear! Nothing wrong with just having favorites and less (or least) favorites. I don't get the best/worst arguments either. Imagine that for some bizarre reason, Ms. Mitchell herself wrote up a list: "My Albums, Best to Worst." (Absurd on the face of it, no?)> Marion in stormy, rainy autumn Sweden > - -- Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss my sweet ass. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #194 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe