From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #191 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 4 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 191 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Jim Johanson [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Early Friday Morning/From Bo [Peep Richman ] Re: Early Friday Morning/From Bo [Victor Johnson ] Re: Jim Johanson [Ashara Stansfield ] RE: Jim Johanson [Susan E McNamara ] Re: Jim Johanson [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Early Friday Morning/From Bo [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Jim Johanson [Susan Guzzi ] Juan ["Lindsay Moon" ] Van Morrison [Happy The Man ] Re: Jim Johanson ["Mark Angelo" ] re: Jim Johanson [c Karma ] Who is Juan (Galt)? [c Karma ] Re: Jim Johanson [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Jim Johanson [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Jim Johanson [Marianne Rizzo ] Re: Who is Juan (Galt)? ["T Peckham" ] Joni and Herbie for $.99 [David Sapp ] Re: Jim Johanson ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni reduces stress levels, and teaches the deeper meaning [Patti Parlett] Re: Jim Johanson [Vince ] Jim Johanson [] Re: Jim Johanson ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Favourite characters ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Jim Johanson [Vince ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:45:18 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Jim Johanson Les, I was not aware of Jim's work. I only knew of Wally. All this time, I was loving the site and didn't know that it was Jim bringing Wally's dream to life. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. RIP Jim. Although I never knew you, your legacy lives on. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 05:24:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: Early Friday Morning/From Bo Hello dear Joni-People, I didn't sleep very much last night...or, more accurately, early this morning. Probably my conscious/unconscious response to last night's debate. Sarah Palin makes me feel really sick, angry and frightened. Sick because she's the queen representative of all of the women in my life, over the past 4 decades, who conjured up my "Uch, I feel sick" response to their narcissism that was the predominant aspect of their personalities. I realized that I couldn't really concentrate on the content of what they were saying because every word was couched with narcissistic undertones...and I was similarly distracted with last night's 'performance' by Sarah Palin. She has a serious problem with 'entitlement'..."can I call you Joe?"...totally out-of-line and the beginning of what was to follow...me, me, me, me!!....under the translucent 'bow-down, he's the King, McCain'. This woman is dangerous. She will appeal to a fairly large volume of people, many of whom I would think are women, who have and will relate to her continual soccer-mom, folksy, 'I'll win you over'comments. Her answers and retorts were rehearsed. She doesn't come across like a human being who is really, deeply concerned about the quality of our lives in the USA and the lives of each person around the world. I didn't feel any sincerity when she tried to describe how she will work to change so many problems that we face now and those that will undoubtedly emerge. I don't underestimate this woman. She is fueled by her inflated sense of self and by what she considers to be her multiple accomplishments, (vs. attempts). But, when I've observed her as her children come on stage after some of her appearances, she hardly seems to recognize them much less acknowledge them. Then, she always takes her "special needs" baby to makes sure to show people how much she 'loves' and 'cares' for her child. What she is doing is exploiting this innocent soul. She no dummy and she's certainly feisty, in a cheer-leader sort of way, but her constant blinking made me think she was concentrating on some sort of trouble with her false eye-lashes rather than what she was saying and how she really felt about major issues. Oh does she ever have credit card eyes!!!!! If I find myself swaying away from content by the distraction of appearance, gestures and voice tones, I'm certain that I'm having a deeply troubled response to an individual. I'm not going to write about the mistakes she made, or the content in her responses to this debate's extremely important questions. Certainly, there will be an all encompassing analysis of this...I'm responding to how I felt/feel about Sarah Palin, the person....a very dangerous woman not to be underestimated in her ability to sway public opinion that may conclude with 'gee, I can really relate to that mom...I really love the way she looks and sounds as though she really knows how to run this country'. I think that Ms. Sarah gives a powerful subliminal message to people as 'I'm the one to watch as I become VP, and then, after I dazzle you with just how terrific I am, I'm sure you'll vote for me as I run for President in 2012'. UCH!!!! Switching gears; I want to welcome James and Jimmy and other new comers to our community. I know you're heartily welcomed. I'm so very saddened to learn that Jim Johanson has died. I'm sure Wally and Jim felt nourished and fulfilled before, during and after spending the week-end with Joni. Just imagine...Joni invited Wally and Jim for the entire week-end!! Catherine, thank you, thank you for the link to the article describing that week-end...it was beautifully written and calmed my soul and nerves. And so this week ends. Here's to a safe, enjoyable weekend!!! Bo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:48:44 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Early Friday Morning/From Bo On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Peep Richman wrote: > She has a serious problem with 'entitlement'..."can I call you > Joe?"...totally out-of-line and the beginning of what was to > follow...me, me, me, me!!....under the translucent 'bow-down, he's > the King, McCain'. > This woman is dangerous. She will appeal to a fairly large > volume of people, many of whom I would think are women, who have > and will relate to her continual soccer-mom, folksy, 'I'll win you > over'comments. > Her answers and retorts were rehearsed. How many times did she call John McCain a maverick? Close to 100? She didn't come across as sincere to me either. I loved it when Senator Biden said "That would be a real bridge to nowhere." Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:13:29 -0400 From: Ashara Stansfield Subject: Re: Jim Johanson I too am saddened by this news. Jim was a wonderful man who gave so much to this community. He will be greatly missed. Sadly, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:34:53 -0400 From: Susan E McNamara Subject: RE: Jim Johanson Dear Les and Joni Family, I am so sorry to hear this news. I remember in the really early days when I would talk to Wally he always mentioned Jim as such a help to him especially as it got harder for him to maintain the site. This news really brings back those early memories and how much both Wally and Jim contributed to Joni's online presence and our fan community. Very sad. Take care, Sue ====================================================================== Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:03:51 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Jim Johanson Sad news for long-time readers of JoniMitchell.com. Jim Johanson, who along with Wally Breese was instrumental in creating the website, passed away on Tuesday morning after a long battle with cancer. Wally conceptualized the site but it was Jim's technical expertise that brought it to life. The two worked together from the beginning, and Jim continued the maintenance of the site after Wally's death in 2000 until just a few years ago. Our thoughts are with Jim's friends and family. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:37:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Jim Johanson I was a regular visitor to Wally's cite long before I decided to join this group. Like some others, I knew nothing about Jim, and am glad that I now am aware of his contribution.. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:45:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Early Friday Morning/From Bo Despite predictions from much of the press, early polls are showing a Biden victory. It's pretty rare that anyone is convinced by a debate--Reagan/Carter is one of the few exceptions. Everyone thinks their candidate won, for the most part.. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:58:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Jim Johanson Where would we all be without the dedication and work of Jim? ... From the Joni site, I was lead here and have made so many dear and likely lifetime friends of spirit. Thanks for everything Jim, rest in peace. Peace, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:41:46 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Juan < Subject: Re: Who is Juan? I think his brother Severin, also a musician, lives in the old family homestead now. I was talking to one of JB's sidemen at mutual friends b'day party a few weeks ago who said he'd lived in Spain for awhile & was thinking of moving back. I didn't realize JB also had a place over there. JB also has a place up here, an incredible ranch up here on the coast. Pretty good lifestyle I'd say. Kate >> If you've watched the show "Living with Ed" he takes a tour of Jackson's ranch. Ed Begley is an actor and staunch environmentalist and has a show about doing everything he can think of (riding a bike to power a toaster) to save our resources. Jackson is nearly off the grid (i.e., doesn't use any public electricity). I'm sure those two have a few stories they could share about the old days . but that's another show. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:56:41 -0500 From: Happy The Man Subject: Van Morrison Don't know if you all saw this but tickets go on sale for a "Front to Back" performance of Astral Weeks at the Hollywood Bowl on November 7-8, 2008. http://www.vanmorrison.com/?m=Content&Content(record_id)=18c5bf2122edaae32f5f9a622fb1e7cb Peace, Craig NP: Shawn Colvin - These Four Walls (who I did get tickets for) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:03:28 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Jim Johanson I too am sad to hear this news regarding Jim. I have been a regular to the site (jonimitchell.com) long, long, before I ever joined the JMDL as a subscriber or came for conversation for that matter. I was impressed with Wally's "strip art" (is that what you call it?) and with the appearance of quality that the site projected - something that I could see Joni herself openly approving of with her own artistic high standards. I remember having read the article at the time (referenced in this thread) replete with photos in which Wally, Jim, and Demetrius (sp) visited Joni at her home in Los Angeles, and I felt from reading that piece that perhaps this was the one single most exhilarating experience that Wally had in his entire life. I did not realize that it was Jim that was the technowonder behind the site all of this time - I'm always learning it seems. I do remember him stating that he would be primarily in charge of the site after Wally's passing. I can still recount his description of taking a boat out in the Pacific, carrying Wally's ashes and spreading them out at sea. Joni had sent a bouquet of flowers and they were taken along and tossed to sea as well. *Sigh* There have been so many losses of recent of people and/or their companions, their loving partners or their beloved pets it seems. Maybe this is simply a reflection of so many seasons that have now gone round and round as time moves forward inexorably. Mirando al cielo buscando a un amigo pasado que se marcho sin aviso se lo llevo el destino. Que cortas eran las horas cuando el estaba a mi lado y ahora se hacen eternas su corazsn se ha dormido. Looking at the sky searching For a friend that has passed Who left without warning And was carried to his destiny. How short were the hours That he was by my side And now they are made eternal His heart has fallen asleep. (Doesn't translate so well like most songs). A beautiful song, Syeme, by Spanish born singer Monica Naranjo that speaks of loss of a good friend and/or loved one, the emotions which can be felt no matter what the language. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRzZnSz2U8A - -- - -Mark in Florida On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:07 PM, wrote: > I continue to have limited email access, but I am so so deeply saddened to > hear this news. > > Rosie in Lake Como, NJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:06:13 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Jim Johanson Dear friends, I am very sorry to hear of Jim's passing. There was a period while JJ was running JoniMitchell.com where the news from Joni's management company was sparse and sometimes unreliable (my, how things change). During that time around the TNT Tribute, BSN tour and the "Voices" exhibit, and by sheer dumb luck I was fortunate to be able to attend many of the New York events (Rosie, Letterman, TNT) for which I sent some "insider" reports to Jim for the site. He was appreciative for the support and asked me to cover the second Madison Square Garden BSN show. The review can be found at this link (thank you, Les), along with my photos which Jim graciously cleaned up via his STRONG graphic skills. http://jmdl.com/events/event.cfm?id=9 Also in appreciation, when we met in Saskatoon later that year for the "Voices" exhibit he invited me to accompany him to the opening reception where we had the opportunity to speak with Joni. Jim had accompanied Wally Breese to Joni's home and was well known to Joni. The report of Wally's visit that appeared on JM.com was actually written in part by JJ due to Wally's condition. He was greeted warmly by Joni and discussed a bit of bad news, as he relayed the then recent passing of Henry Lewy's wife. Joni made a note to herself to contact Henry with condolences. She thanked JJ for letting her know, and the mood brightened. A rather large group had purchased the exhibit books, and Joni was graciously signing them. She was inscribing his, "Thanks for the web continuum" but could not remember how to spell "continuum". I chimed in, "two U's, like vacuum." "Oh, good rhyming!", she agreed. Someone (David Mingus?) tried to remind her of Jaco Pastorius' song, "Continuum" but Joni seemed not to recall it. I remember JJ speaking at length later with Myrtle after she and Bill emerged from the private lounge. It seemed that he and Myrtle had a warmer, closer relationship than I expected, but that was just probably JJ. Bill and I were discussing the art, and parenting strategies for creative children ("Just keep buying those pencils"). It was one of the most beautiful events I have ever attended, and my memories of it will last so long as I breathe. Thank you Jim. For those who never met Jim, I can describe him as a gentle, sweet, creative, tall man whose beacon of humanity illuminated everyone he met. I know he struggled with illness for a long time and took courageous steps in his fight. May he shine forever. CC _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:31:35 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: Who is Juan (Galt)? Does it really matter? CC _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:40:54 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Jim Johanson Wow. It can't be more than 8 years that she was in her Flash Gordon kimono stage :) > Dear friends, > > I am very sorry to hear of Jim's passing. > > There was a period while JJ was running JoniMitchell.com where the news from > Joni's management company was sparse and sometimes unreliable (my, how things > change). During that time around the TNT Tribute, BSN tour and the "Voices" > exhibit, and by sheer dumb luck I was fortunate to be able to attend many of > the New York events (Rosie, Letterman, TNT) for which I sent some "insider" > reports to Jim for the site. He was appreciative for the support and asked me > to cover the second Madison Square Garden BSN show. The review can be found > at this link (thank you, Les), along with my photos which Jim graciously > cleaned up via his STRONG graphic skills. > > http://jmdl.com/events/event.cfm?id=9 > > Also in appreciation, when we met in Saskatoon later that year for the > "Voices" exhibit he invited me to accompany him to the opening reception where > we had the opportunity to speak with Joni. Jim had accompanied Wally Breese > to Joni's home and was well known to Joni. The report of Wally's visit that > appeared on JM.com was actually written in part by JJ due to Wally's > condition. He was greeted warmly by Joni and discussed a bit of bad news, as > he relayed the then recent passing of Henry Lewy's wife. Joni made a note to > herself to contact Henry with condolences. She thanked JJ for letting her > know, and the mood brightened. A rather large group had purchased the exhibit > books, and Joni was graciously signing them. She was inscribing his, "Thanks > for the web continuum" but could not remember how to spell "continuum". I > chimed in, "two U's, like vacuum." > > "Oh, good rhyming!", she agreed. Someone (David Mingus?) tried to remind her > of Jaco Pastorius' song, "Continuum" but Joni seemed not to recall it. I > remember JJ speaking at length later with Myrtle after she and Bill emerged > from the private lounge. It seemed that he and Myrtle had a warmer, closer > relationship than I expected, but that was just probably JJ. Bill and I were > discussing the art, and parenting strategies for creative children ("Just keep > buying those pencils"). It was one of the most beautiful events I have ever > attended, and my memories of it will last so long as I breathe. Thank you > Jim. > > For those who never met Jim, I can describe him as a gentle, sweet, creative, > tall man whose beacon of humanity illuminated everyone he met. I know he > struggled with illness for a long time and took courageous steps in his fight. > May he shine forever. > > CC > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F > 681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:50:11 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Jim Johanson Things had truly gone full circle - from Gandalf Publishing to Gandalf's wardrobe. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "My Three Sons" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:17:52 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: Who is Juan (Galt)? AMEN! On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:31 PM, c Karma wrote: > Does it really matter? > > > CC > > - -- Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss my sweet ass. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:11:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David Sapp Subject: Joni and Herbie for $.99 River performed live by Joni and Herbie is available for $.99 at iTunes. Simply find Herbie's new CD entitled Then and Now. This is a really lovely performance if you haven't heard it. The band is a perfect and subtle cushion for Joni's vocal. Highly recommended. ... signing off for now, Peace, David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:04:06 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Jim Johanson I am so sad to hear this. My deep condolences to his family & friends. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:10:30 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Joni reduces stress levels, and teaches the deeper meaning Happy Friday! (TONE: Just throwing the lightness on these things) Going through the pile of papers on my desk so I can recycle/toss stuff (craving simplicity), I came across an article about a communications professor and her work.... and then along came Joni! ******* Tafoya is also interested in the physiological effects of communication. In one study, she examined how peoples stress levels were reduced by expressing affection through writing a letter. The participants cortisol levels, heart rates, blood pressure, and blood glucose levels were measured. We found that participants stress levels were significantly reduced when they wrote a letter of affection to somebody they cared about, she says. source: http://www.advance.uconn.edu/2008/080929/08092909.htm ******* I want to knit you a sweater Want to write you a love letter I want to make you feel better I want to make you feel free I want to make you feel free.... Ha. Joni not only made the person she was writing about feel better, she made herself feel better! Now I'm laughing, imagining myself taking a class with this professor. I'd be raising my hand and bringing Joni into the discussion. (And probably very quickly getting the reputation as the Joni nutcase in the class. Class Dancing Clown, Muller!) Here's another possible Joni scenario: "The interpersonal communication course includes an examination of identity, attraction, and love, as well as jealousy and infidelity." Raising my hand encore une fois: "Yes! That's just what Joni Mitchell does. She examines all these things! Why, in her 2000 BSN album she examines the whole trajectory of romantic love. Professor, do you know Joni Mitchell? I think you'd really like her. About jealousy, she sang: 'The jealousy and the greed is the unravelling. I tell you it's the unravelling! It undoes all the joy that could be.' Don't you agree?" Ha. Who needs higher education when we've got Joni? ; ) Everything I Need To Know I Learned In Joni'sGarden. Bon weekend, and Go Joni! Go Obama! Go Red Sox! Go Vince's Sox! Go Huskies -- beat them beach Tar Heels! and finally: Puck Falin and her goon hockey mom schtick and maverix politix! (Wink, wink.) With affection and respect, a little passion, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:13:47 -0400 From: Vince Subject: Re: Jim Johanson Rest eternal grant Jim O Lord and let light perpetual shine upon him I never spoke with Jim but knew he was at Wally's side - that he was so important to us all and yet someone most of us did not know is a witness to true humility and love on his part, that his work was a gift - comfort to all of his family and friends Vince On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Susan E McNamara wrote: > Dear Les and Joni Family, > > I am so sorry to hear this news. I remember in the really early days when > I would talk to Wally he always mentioned Jim as such a help to him > especially as it got harder for him to maintain the site. This news really > brings back those early memories and how much both Wally and Jim contributed > to Joni's online presence and our fan community. Very sad. > > Take care, Sue > > ====================================================================== > Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:03:51 -0600 > From: "Les Irvin" > Subject: Jim Johanson > > Sad news for long-time readers of JoniMitchell.com. Jim Johanson, who > along > with Wally Breese was instrumental in creating the website, passed away on > Tuesday morning after a long battle with cancer. Wally conceptualized the > site but it was Jim's technical expertise that brought it to life. The two > worked together from the beginning, and Jim continued the maintenance of > the > site after Wally's death in 2000 until just a few years ago. Our thoughts > are with Jim's friends and family. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:36:53 -0400 From: Subject: Jim Johanson So very sorry to hear the sad news. In August 2000 Michele and I were privileged to attend a performance by singer (and Joni fan) Carla Helmbrecht at the Top of the Mark in San Francisco. We arranged to meet Jim, his friend Andrew and old-time jmdler Leslie Mixon there. It was a wonderful evening, in a very classy venue, with delightful company. A pleasant memory to look back upon at a sad time. My heartfelt condolences to Jim's family and friends. *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:04:13 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Jim Johanson Jim carried on the upkeep of the website for a time after Wally's death. I believe he finally became too ill himself to continue. I don't know this for a fact but that seems to be the way I remember things going down. I met Jim and visited his home in San Francisco. I believe he was living with a partner named Andrew at that time. This was when I attended Joni's BSN concert in Concorde in 2000. Leslie & Steve Mixon were my hosts and we stopped by Jim's on the way to the concert. Leslie was friends with both Wally and Jim. Jim seemed to be a very energetic, warm, intelligent person when I met him. His passing is a great loss indeed to this old world and certainly a loss to those of us here who came together mainly because of Joni, then because of Les. But Wally and Jim certainly played a large part in the fact that this community exists. Before Les took over the website and combined it with the JMDL website, the two entities were inextricably intertwined. Wally said there was nothing on the web about Joni back when he & Jim started building the original website. We all owe them both a great deal. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark-Leon Thorne" To: Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 12:45 AM Subject: Re: Jim Johanson > Les, I was not aware of Jim's work. I only knew of Wally. All this > time, I was loving the site and didn't know that it was Jim bringing > Wally's dream to life. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. RIP > Jim. Although I never knew you, your legacy lives on. > > Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:15:12 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Favourite characters I've been thinking and thinking about this question. Michael, you have just about answered it for me, though. These two characters are indeed 2 of Joni's most intriguing to me. But there is one more that I have been hesitant to mention partly because of some of the sad news we've had lately, partly because I wonder if it reveals something morbid about my personality. This might be a question for Sharon as well. The woman who drowned herself mentioned in 'Song For Sharon' has always been a big question mark for me. Maybe this would not be something appropriate to ask Sharon about. I would certainly not expect a name or too much specific information. But I would like to know if this is a reference to a real person and a real incident. The circumstances are perhaps best left to speculation. Joni seemed to think so - 'She was just shaking off futility or punishing somebody'. Guesses at most there, emotions and abstractions. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" To: Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Favourite characters > Well, here are two of my favourite Joni charcters : the heroine in > Sunny > Sunday - I love this story, apparently a true story, related to a > woman living > on the same street as a friend of Joni's. I just love the music and > lyrics.I > can relate to this character. Sometimes I feel just like her. > > My other favourite character is the narrator in Two Grey Rooms. A > Fassbinder > short story, I believe, further transformed by Joni's artistic > sensibility. I > love everything about this song. One of Joni's last great piano > songs (if not > THE last) until the appearance of Shine. > > Michael in Quebec > > _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 02:04:58 -0400 From: Vince Subject: Re: Jim Johanson I invite everyone to read Mark Scott's post again and then answer this question: Is there one other internet site/discussion list/anything that matches the JMDL and joni.com - not just for other artists but for anything - - what Wally, Jim, Les, and others created is as unique a web presence and community as there is. There is nothing like it. What they did was brilliant foresight that no one else has caught up tp yet. We are deeply blessed by their vision, their work, their dedication, their love, and their personalities of warmth, welcome, joy, and acceptance. There is nothing like the JMDL and Joni.com and we are blessed and honored and lucky that we have this wonderful karmic coming together which does all that the joni.comand jmdl do. There is nothing like it. We are heirs to so much. It humbles me when I think how lucky I am to be a participant hetr. Vince On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Mark Scott wrote: > Jim carried on the upkeep of the website for a time after Wally's death. I > believe he finally became too ill himself to continue. I don't know this > for a fact but that seems to be the way I remember things going down. > > I met Jim and visited his home in San Francisco. I believe he was living > with a partner named Andrew at that time. This was when I attended Joni's > BSN concert in Concorde in 2000. Leslie & Steve Mixon were my hosts and we > stopped by Jim's on the way to the concert. Leslie was friends with both > Wally and Jim. > > Jim seemed to be a very energetic, warm, intelligent person when I met him. > His passing is a great loss indeed to this old world and certainly a loss > to those of us here who came together mainly because of Joni, then because > of Les. But Wally and Jim certainly played a large part in the fact that > this community exists. Before Les took over the website and combined it > with the JMDL website, the two entities were inextricably intertwined. > Wally said there was nothing on the web about Joni back when he & Jim > started building the original website. We all owe them both a great deal. > > Mark in Seattle > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark-Leon Thorne" < > mark-leon@iinet.net.au> > To: > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 12:45 AM > Subject: Re: Jim Johanson > > > Les, I was not aware of Jim's work. I only knew of Wally. All this time, I >> was loving the site and didn't know that it was Jim bringing Wally's dream >> to life. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. RIP Jim. Although I never >> knew you, your legacy lives on. >> >> Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #191 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe