From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #189 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, October 2 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 189 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- quirky? ["Marion Leffler" ] Who is Juan [Michel BYRNE ] Re: quirky? [Em ] Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express [Em ] Re: Songs not on albums [Laura Stanley ] Re: Who is Juan? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: quirky? [Victor Johnson ] Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express [Michael Flaherty ] Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Question for Sharon [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Another question for Sharon [anon anon ] Re: SJC: newbie [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: SJC: newbie [Catherine McKay ] Re: Another question for Sharon [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: SJC: newbie [Happy The Man ] ncj, Happy October, and some Palin stuff [Patti Parlette ] Re: SJC: newbie [Kate Johnson ] Re: Who is Juan? [Jeannie ] LJC - Geffen in the top 50 richest Americans ["Cassy" ] Re: For Free on YouTube [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Yusa, the Joni Mitchell of Cuba [Jeannie ] SJC: newbie ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:09:07 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: quirky? According to my English-Swedish dictionary, quirky means "strange", "whimsical". Is that what you mean, those of you who discussed whether some of Joni's songs are quirky? Roses Blue and Songs to Aging Children come were mentioned. I just don't find them either strange or whimsical. Although Rose herself might have been. But maybe I just don't get the drift? Help me out, folks, please! Marion ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:06:35 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: Who is Juan Re Lindsay's comment, I always presumed Juan was Jackson Brown, and that Joni was continuing the 'feud' in a coded way. I agree with Bob that those lines suck - all they convey to me is some kind of petty settling of scores with no illumination whatsoever. A pity, as I think No Apologies is a great song otherwise, especially verse 3. Mark, I like your recreation of Blue, but do you really want Hunter and This Flight Tonight on the same album, with exactly the same guitar riff?.... I think Joni was spot on in dumping H for TFT... :) Mich _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 04:58:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: quirky? well to me, for one, just the vocals alone on the song "Blue" were/are pretty quirky. In a good way. No! in a GREAT way! :) Em - --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Marion Leffler wrote: > From: Marion Leffler > Subject: quirky? > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:09 AM > According to my English-Swedish dictionary, quirky means > "strange", > "whimsical". Is that what you mean, those of you > who discussed whether some > of Joni's songs are quirky? Roses Blue and Songs to > Aging Children come > were mentioned. I just don't find them either strange > or whimsical. Although > Rose herself might have been. But maybe I just don't > get the drift? Help me > out, folks, please! > > Marion ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 04:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express - --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: snip... "Although I can speculate why MOA did so well on the charts yet does so poorly (or perhaps the correct statement would be why it does not do as well) on JMDL polls. This was the album following C&S. C&S hit it big and made Joni not only an artist but a star". Thinking that maybe the reason it did so well is that at that point (right after C&S) lots of people were as yet unfamiliar with Joni *except* for the C&S songs, which were all over the radio. So for them, MOA, as a 2nd Joni album (if they only owned or had heard C&S) was a really deep and delicious well of older Joni material all on one album, and really kind of a greatest "hits", in a sense. It provided a sort of anthology, in concert form though, of great songs from her previous albums which lots of folks did not yet know. So for those, at that time, familiar only with C&S, MOA was a great stepping stone, or spring board or whatever into Joni. Not to mention whatever value it had for people already into her music. :) Just a guess! Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Songs not on albums Kate wrote: Bob argued: Quirky **IS** good. Quirky is definitely NOT Joni. Quirky is Frank Zappa, They Might Be Giants, Sufjan Stevens - they do (or did in the case of Zappa) quirky pretty solid. Joni, not so much. Hi Quirks, Depends on how you wear the diaper. Here are some definitions. Quirk: a peculiarity of action or behavior. Peculiar: 1. belonging exclusively to one person or group 2. characteristic, distinctive, 3. queer, odd syn idiosyncratic, eccentric, singular, strange, weird. Joni goes way off the quirk side of the quirkometer in my dangerous kitchen. Love, Weirdo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:30:22 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Who is Juan? Yeah, I think that's right, Lindsay - once again my strategery of blurting out the first thing off the top of my head and letting the smart people correct me has paid off. Bob NP: Todd Rundgren, "Today" (from his head-banging rocker just out yesterday, amazing how he has maintained his edge and power into his 5th decade) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:12:52 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: quirky? Quirky to me usually means different and unique...not boring or predictable, not like everything else. On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Marion Leffler wrote: > According to my English-Swedish dictionary, quirky means "strange", > "whimsical". Is that what you mean, those of you who discussed > whether some > of Joni's songs are quirky? Roses Blue and Songs to Aging Children > come > were mentioned. I just don't find them either strange or whimsical. > Although > Rose herself might have been. But maybe I just don't get the > drift? Help me > out, folks, please! > > Marion ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express - --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: snip... "Although I can speculate why MOA did so well on the charts yet does so poorly (or perhaps the correct statement would be why it does not do as well) on JMDL polls. This was the album following C&S. C&S hit it big and made Joni not only an artist but a star". I think you're right. Also, a dedicated fan (or whatever you prefer) list is likely to have people who are not really influenced by chart positions or reviews. We've played most or all of the albums frequently, so many more are "hits" to us. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:20:12 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 105 - sakes alive! And yet another page of the calendar gets shredded, revealing a new month and a new opportunity to unleash Joni covers unto a hungry world. Another stellar effort here with mostly 21st century material and barely a sprinkling of cheese, parmesan or otherwise. Big Joni-hugs to the kind-hearted people who contributed to this one, namely: Catherine, Monica & Mark-Leon Thanks y'all! Here's where you can go to begin chomping on the audio: http://tinyurl.com/42aynh And hears what you'll here, or rather here's what you'll hear: 1. Laila Biali - Woodstock: As always, I try to kick things off with a shining star of a track, this time I picked this gently swinging jazz take on Woodstock from Canadian alto Laila Biali. She has a great voice and her band is solid as well, adding lots of good vibes (figuratively & literally) into the mix. 2. The Schneiderman Sisters - Happiness Runs/The Circle Game: Joni's songs have been included in lots of medleys, and Circle Game probably more than any other. Here it gets mated with Donovan's "Happiness Runs" and was included as part of a baby CD/DVD package that tried to present classic 60's/70's tunes in a children's music format. All that being said, this is well-paced, not dirgy like TCG can be sometimes, and the harmony vocals are superb. 3. Boney James - River: From his 2007 holiday CD "Christmas Present" comes this pleasant instrumental version of River. Boney has been playing the saxophone since he was 10 and he's got a fine tone indeed. 4. Michela MacFarlane - A Case of You: Michela has studied a variety of music at a variety of schools, all of them very distinguished. She's got great chops and puts them to good use on ACOY. 5. Judy Niemack - Blue: Jazz/Cabaret singer Judy's been here before - she recorded "All I Want" a few years back and picked the title track from Joni's treasured classic for her latest album. She does a tremendous job and the arrangement and sparse accompaniment is just right in all the right places. 6. Jeni Fleming Acoustic Trio - Twisted: A jazz trio in Montana - who would have guessed? But that is in fact where Jeni and her combo practice their craft, and if their take on the classic "Twisted" is any indication they do a great job of keeping Montana jazzed. Some great sax licks on this one. 7. then there were two - Amelia: A quietly beautiful haunting version of Amelia, presented as a bass-voice duet. The "two" are Michael Visceglia, Suzanne Vega's bassist, and Fiona McBain, an Australian singer. This was one of the tracks I selected for my Sweet 16 given out at Jonifest. 8. Donna Colton & The Troublemakers - Carey: Donna has graced our midst before as she recorded River a couple of years ago. Donna is based in the Syracuse, NY area and gigs in the area so check her out as she is obviously a Joni fan and has a nice pop-country sound. 9. Smiffenpoofs - A Case of You: More college acapella, this time from Smith College. An interesting vocal arrangement and a lovely assortment of voices. 10. Tony Sheldon, Jeremy Stanford, & Daniel Scott - Both Sides Now: This high-camp version of the franchise comes to us courtesy of the 2007 Australian soundtrack to 'Priscilla, Queen of the Desert - The Musical'. The BSN part ends at about the 3-minute mark at which point it breaks into an operatic coloratura aria that I can't bear. 11. Andy Yager - Big Yellow Taxi: A jangly medium-paced version, the voice sounds like either Seals or Crofts, not sure which one. 12. Antonia - Little Green: Such a lovely, bittersweet song. And a lovely performance here by Dutch jazz-pop singer Antonia, accompanying herself on guitar. 13. Charlotte Martin - Urge For Going: Not all beauty queens aspire to be Vice President, some become entertainers. Charlotte (Miss Teen Illinois 1994) has been pretty prolific in her 10-year singing career. This pleasant version of UFG seems very Tori Amos-influenced to me, not necessarily a bad thing. 14. Sister Hazel - River: From their 2007 holiday album - a medley of River and "I'm Dreaming Of A White Christmas", actually - Florida's Sister hazel puts a country-folk spin on things, struggling a bit to hit that high falsetto but nonetheless turning in a solid performance. 15. Judy Kuhn - All I Want 16. Judy Kuhn - Let The Wind Carry Me: Judy Kuhn is a well-known NYC cabaret and theatre star. These live performances were taken from Youtube clips, and noteworthy in that Let The Wind Carry Me is a true rarity in terms of Joni covers; like much of FTR it is sadly neglected. Judy's performances reflect her stage andd cabaret background, solid and clear. 17. Nena - Big Yellow Taxi: Y'all remember Nena..."99 Luftballoons" and all that. This one (like most of these) comes from her 2007 Covers album and puts a semi-heavy rockin' vibe on the song. Nena is from Germany; strangely enough we typically feature lots of international performers but this time around there are only a handful. 18. The Wheezetones - Woodstock: The Wheezetones hail from Lincoln Nebraska and are a bunch of local musicians who came together in 1992 and started playing the music that they (and Patti) loves. They are a competent group and have some good energy and talent for a classic rock cover band. And that's it...18 songs, 18 hits! As for milestones, we're approaching the 600 mark for BSN's and just may get there by the time I release #106. Hope you enjoy #105 as much as I do, give it a spin and let me know what you think. And of course if you want to find out more about any of these artists, you can check out http://www.jonimitchell.com/musician/undercover.cfm and do a search on the Volume to pick up CD's, tour schedules and a whole bunch more. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:47:13 -0700 From: Russell Bowden Subject: Question for Sharon Gang, and Bob, (aka Sharon channeler) Would you give her an ask re: Harlem in Havana? The song sounds so true..Did this episode (or something like it) really occur? Rap once for yes...two for no....All you need is a turban, a big gold ring in your ear and some wild unidentifiable accent. Thanks Madame Bobushka. Love to all, Russ Mischief Managed _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:11:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs What about song to the last whale? So beautiful... kate Patti >And then it came to me, like lightning striking from above...no contest. Willy! I would be his lady all my life. He is a simple man, and he sings a simple song. Have I ever told you how much I love Graham Nash? (LOL, I know I have....) From Bus Stop and Carrie Anne to Songs for Beginners, and our shared abhorrence for Military Madness, and then of course his solid love for Joni, expressed so purely and reverently in the WOHAM documentary.< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:20:37 -0700 From: "James Matheson" Subject: SJC: newbie I love Joni Mitchell and her work for all the same reasons as most fans. I think she is a genius lyricist and one of the most interesting and gifted guitar players I have heard in my long life as a guitar junky. I first heard Joni in 1968. As a overly sensitive 15 year old boy, with pretentions as a poet and actor, Joni's vivid storytelling and her heart-opening depiction of emotion hit me hard and deep. Happily, I never got over it. I have an older sister, also named Joni, who was a teenage, beatnik wannabe during the early '60s. It was from her that I first heard the term "radical" used as an adjective of praise (around 1961 or '62). When I heard Joni Mitchell play and sing the first time, my reaction was, "Radical!" I grew up in classic Southern California beach-culture and there was something about this woman from the Canadian plains that fit right into that whole scene. With her long blonde "surfer-girl" hair and her high-cheeked classic beauty, it was easy to imagine Joni Mitchell walking around the sunny summer streets near La Jolla Cove, browsing through the stacks at the Mithras Bookstore, or sitting on the hood of a car parked at Swami's in Encinitas. But that wasn't it. It wasn't even the dual attraction of Joni's open-hearted vulnerability and undeniable strength, like the passing power of the waves. It was way more than any of that. Beyond her iconic physical beauty and her sea-breeze free spirit, Joni Mitchell was, and remains, a completely authentic and original artist. She tells the whole truth with her words and voices them in unique and achingly beautiful melodies. Even more important, as Joni grew and evolved as an artist, so did many of us grow and evolve. She continued to tell her story. She continued to tell our story. As a fan of Ms. Mitchell for forty years, I can't believe this site list has been happening for so long without me knowing about it until now! The fact that I have found it just as I start graduate school is probably not a good thing. I fear it will become a major distraction. Oh, and how I LOVE distractions!!! Thanks for listening, Jimmie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 13:25:34 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Question for Sharon I don't need to ask Sharon - I can tell you that it did based on the interviews Joni did at the time to promote the CD. It's the first question Jody Denberg asks her in this interview: http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=998 Madame Bobushka NP: Ben Folds, "The Frown Song" (another kickass release from yesterday - making great records can't be as simple as BF makes it seem) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Better late than never, welcome to you - I'm glad you found us and vice versa. You've been along for the whole Joni ride so I'm sure you'll bring a lot to the group. Bob NP: Todd Rundgren, "Bardo" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:30:55 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Another question for Sharon You must be reading my mail - I asked Sharon that myself. I'm anxious to see what she says. Bob NP: Karrin Allyson, "The Meaning Of The Blues" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:42:12 -0500 From: Happy The Man Subject: Re: SJC: newbie Good to have you hear Jimmy. I grew up just up the coast from you in Long Beach (school year)/San Clemente (summer). Good to have you here on the list. Peace, Craig James Matheson wrote: > I love Joni Mitchell and her work for all the same reasons as most fans. I > think she is a genius lyricist and one of the most interesting and gifted > guitar players I have heard in my long life as a guitar junky. > > > > I first heard Joni in 1968. As a overly sensitive 15 year old boy, with > pretentions as a poet and actor, Joni's vivid storytelling and her > heart-opening depiction of emotion hit me hard and deep. Happily, I never > got over it. > > > > I have an older sister, also named Joni, who was a teenage, beatnik wannabe > during the early '60s. It was from her that I first heard the term "radical" > used as an adjective of praise (around 1961 or '62). When I heard Joni > Mitchell play and sing the first time, my reaction was, "Radical!" > > > > I grew up in classic Southern California beach-culture and there was > something about this woman from the Canadian plains that fit right into that > whole scene. > > With her long blonde "surfer-girl" hair and her high-cheeked classic beauty, > it was easy to imagine Joni Mitchell walking around the sunny summer streets > near La Jolla Cove, browsing through the stacks at the Mithras Bookstore, or > sitting on the hood of a car parked at Swami's in Encinitas. > > But that wasn't it. > > > > It wasn't even the dual attraction of Joni's open-hearted vulnerability and > undeniable strength, like the passing power of the waves. > > > > It was way more than any of that. > > > > Beyond her iconic physical beauty and her sea-breeze free spirit, Joni > Mitchell was, and remains, a completely authentic and original artist. She > tells the whole truth with her words and voices them in unique and achingly > beautiful melodies. > > Even more important, as Joni grew and evolved as an artist, so did many of > us grow and evolve. > > She continued to tell her story. > > She continued to tell our story. > > > > As a fan of Ms. Mitchell for forty years, I can't believe this site list has > been happening for so long without me knowing about it until now! > > The fact that I have found it just as I start graduate school is probably > not a good thing. > > I fear it will become a major distraction. > > Oh, and how I LOVE distractions!!! > > > > Thanks for listening, > > Jimmie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:56:48 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: ncj, Happy October, and some Palin stuff Happy October and Kalo Mina! Well, its a marvelous month for moondances and baseball playoffs and the World Serious (and even college football when my Huskies play Joseph and Mr. & Mrs. SCJoniguy's beach Tar Heels Saturday -- place your bets!) and the last days of this seemingly interminable fear and loathing on the campaign trail (Go Obama! Yes, we can!) and the great debate tomorrow (notches liberation doll) and the breathtaking foliage -- red, green and gold to welcome you crimson crystal leaves to beckon -- that makes a portrait of every day and pumpkins and ghosts (of Gable and Flynn) and apples and cheeses and Oktoberfests, drinking up the bands' beers (or a bottle of German wine to drink) (Rhein wein, milch of the madonna) With the stars up above in your eyes A fantabulous month to make romance neath the cover of october skies (Ha. In some office sits a wannabe poet, maybe?) Here's the Palin stuff. 1. Lori posted about this recently, et voila le resultat: "First, the terrific news: You know that e-mail everyone's been sending around, encouraging people to donate to Planned Parenthood in the name of Sarah Palin? So far, it has yielded $802,678 in donations from over 31,000 people, from all 50 states, two-thirds of whom are first-time donors. Thank-you notes to Palin, care of the McCain campaign headquarters, will begin going out next week." 2. A ceremony of the bells and lace for political show? "Finally, the we-should-have-seen-it-coming (and maybe you did) news: Sarah Baxter, a Washington correspondent for the Times of London, speculates that this election's October surprise will be the wedding of Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston. An unnamed source inside the McCain campaign told Baxter, "It would be fantastic. You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week. (Both quoted items are from Kate Harding at salon.com) What kind of mother would..... Oh, I'd better stop. xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:05:47 -0700 From: "James Matheson" Subject: SJC-wewerekids By the time I was 17 I had Joni Mitchell and David Crosby all tied up in my head. There was a strong connection between the two in the way I perceived their music and lyrics. I associated both artists' work with the ocean, the mountains and being "on the road" (lower-case, so as to NOT make an already confusing set of relationships more so - although "that one" is probably in there somewhere). Joni and David were like two very cool older siblings who I wanted to understand and emulate. More than that, their work helped me find my way through a tangled bunch of emotions, not the least of which were romantic love, brotherhood/sisterhood and the myth of the "American Dream." I'm not exactly sure why it was that these two were the artists I related to the most. David Crosby was probably a natural extension of all the cool older guys I looked up to as a little kid, especially given his relationship to the ocean and sailing - that whole rich beachcomber deal. I was probably just plain IN LOVE with Joni Mitchell. After all, she's beautiful, strong, intelligent, plays guitar with all of those cool alternative tunings . and . well . words fail. Early cruises up the coast from San Diego to San Francisco were scored by lots of different music. Everything from The Allman Brothers to Frank Zappa, but NOTHING matches the stretch of Highway 1 between San Luis Obispo and Big Sur like "Joni Mitchell (Song to a Seagull) into David Crosby "If Only I Could Remember My Name." (I remember when "Music is Love" started to replace "Lighter Shade of Pale" as the final "canned-track" played before the performers would hit the stage at Bill Graham shows). I do not know how many copies of those two albums I have worn out over the years. Lately, I've been listening to a badly recorded copy of part of show Joni did around the time that Turbulent Indigo came out: just her and a guitar, lots of conversation between songs. I think it was something for the press and broadcast on syndicated radio (?) Does anyone have a line on how to get a good copy of this show? Again thanks for listening. Man, I gotta get some WORK done! Jimmie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:07:59 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: SJC: newbie Hi Jimmie, Welcome to the list and thanks for telling us about your intro to Joni and your appreciation of her unique genius. You've come to the right place. I live in Saskatchewan, the province where Joni was raised, so I'm one of those "sky-oriented people." It's a beautiful place, or I find it to be. I often break out in song while walking on the country road outside my door here on the farm, with the words "Heaven ... I'm in heaven ...." I love it here. Kate of the North http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:58:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Who is Juan? Yeah, I can see how Jackson's nickname could be Juan. He was brought up in an old Spanish style home built by his grandfather in the 1920's in Highland Park which eventually became a Latino enclave by the early 1960's. Jackson probably grew up near and around many Hispanic neighbors and I can feel that influence and respect for his 'vecinos' in some of his songs. I'm going to buy Jackson Browne's latest album later on this evening. It sounds awesome and like the good ol' Jackson I've always loved to listen to. BTW, Jackson looks so damn good with a beard...like a distinguished and handsome mean ol' daddy who I hope has learned to humble himself, which I think he has truly done. Tender shall be my night in the shape of one human heart for all of mankind. Jeannie - --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Lindsay Moon wrote: > I thought I remembered reading that "Juan" was a > known nickname for Jackson > Browne. And Freddy is Freddy Walecki. In fact, I think it > was Freddy that > tipped it that Juan was Jackson. > > But then we're dealing with my failing memory . > > Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:03:02 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: LJC - Geffen in the top 50 richest Americans According to www.Forbes.com David Geffen is the 49th richest person in the United States. The list of the top 400 begins here: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/54/400list08_The-400-Richest-Americans_Rank.html I wonder whether Joni has any regrets about her involvement with the man. Warmly, Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:55:00 -0700 (PDT) From: we3kings Subject: Yusa, the Joni Mitchell of Cuba i heard about this lady today on Public Radio International or PRI. http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/21384 An mp3 is available on the site. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:28:53 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: For Free on YouTube Hi, Mags, I was the one who mentioned "For Free" so, of course I had to check out the YouTube links you provided. Unfortunately, every time I tried to watch the Joni performance, it quit on me somewhere around half-way through. The other one (Matthew) is really good & that played all the way through. > From: Mags > Subject: for free times two > > someone, sorry i forget who, had mentioned they liked the character in the > song 'for free' so i went looking for an early version. and found the > gorgeous > bbc 1970. she's just so beautiful here. > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzN1p5q2sY > > and then i found this: beautiful and tender > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=sLahlYFYBBw > > ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Yusa, the Joni Mitchell of Cuba OMG! You have no idea how much I appreciate this information. Muchicimas gracias. Fuertes Abrazos, Jeannie PS: I haven't gotten around to open up and listen to my latest Jackson Browne CD yet, but I'm getting there real soon, too. Thank God for music and all the fine arts and different cultures in life and for everyone on the JMDL. - --- On Wed, 10/1/08, we3kings wrote: > From: we3kings > Subject: Yusa, the Joni Mitchell of Cuba > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 7:55 PM > i heard about this lady today on Public Radio International > or PRI. > > http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/21384 > > An mp3 is available on the site. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:36:49 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: quirky? To me it means unique, atypical, unexpected, original, individual, unusual, unpredictable - basically the opposite of normal Kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:47:46 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: SJC: newbie Welcome jimmie, nice post, lots of my friends hung out at swami's - some still do... 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